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>I CAN'T SEED
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>>535505665
Smartphone.
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women rights
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>>535505665
We sell them gmo everything. They love cheap gene altering Franken food. Now shut up and eat your irradiated orange, they're fresh as the day they were picked and nuked.
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>>535505665
people are better educated, the more educated you are the less children you have
we have better access to various birth control methods for both men and women
between work and school no one has time to raise children
children are uber expensive right now
rent and house mortgages, food, transportation, and daycare are uber expensive right now
people are more aware of how their childhood and parents screwed them up as adults and don't want to pass any of that on
people also know that elder care is a burden and don't want to contribute or burden their own potential children with it
too many wars right now
no economic hope because of AI and corporations exploiting workers
young people drink less or not at all (shit is expensive) which mans less careless mistakes in the bedroom
Online interaction has replaced in person interactions so there are just less chances for people to mate
everything is recorded or tracked and people feel like they have less privacy which causes anxiety and anxious stressed people don't fuck or make children or want to bring children into a world that's constantly spying on them
the pedos that control our governments are getting away with kidnapping and abusing children and murdering children
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>>535505665
men don't make enough money.
/thread
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>>535505665
STFU about birth rates already. There's too many of us, all crowding in the biggest cities and with no jobs to support us all. Whatever else is causing the birth rates to collapse is irrelevant. It's a non-issue.
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>>535506101
Its this. Women dont marry down, only up. This doesn't mean she brings in $60k so he needs to bring in $62k. He needs to bring in $140k+ These are just her baseline wants as well. She will cobble together a Frankensteins monster of all the traits her exes had, and you need to have the good ones and none of the bad.
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>>535505665
PZP injections
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Turns out women never wanted kids, we all exist because our ancestors used to rape. If troglodytes had tinder and the pill we wouldnt exist now.
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>>535505665
Women working
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>>535506323
Yeah that's why I married a catholic favela girl. Power dynamics is super real with women.
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>>535506403
>I married
WEEEE WOOOO WEEEE WOOOO
CVCK ALERT!
CVCKK ALERT!
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>>535505823
This
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>>535505665
slavery should be back , women should be taken as concubines and bred by strong men thats the only fix
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>>535506079
It's just so weird since, assuming education makes you better off, being educated should increase your birthrate since you can support more children.
The other things you cite are major impediments though.
I think this best sums it up
>between work and school no one has time to raise children
We need to just start arresting people who try to enforce this idiotic work culture. Anyone who says that loyalty to a corporation should supersede loyalty to family just needs to be executed.
College should be banned. If school can't teach you everything you need to survive in 13 fucking years, maybe it's just rub by retards and they should all be executed so we can put other people in charge.
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>>535505820
>>535505823
>>535505838
ftpbp
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>>535506555
>>535505823
Wow these anons got smart phones in the 1970s. Impressive
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>>535505665
Do you go outside?
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>>535506131
I get it, but it's just so weird that people no longer want to have children. That's like people no longer wanting to eat food. Something is seriously wrong in society and we need to figure out who needs to be executed in order to make society worth living in.
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>>535506714
Yes. In fact, I'm gonna go outside in a few minutes
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>>535506732
What don't you get? People are unable to even escape their basements. Why the FUCK should they even think about having kids? Also marriage is a fucking joke. You have to be dense to believe in marriage and monocuckme in *current year*.
>That's like people no longer wanting to eat food.
Nah. You're just stupeed.
>Something is seriously wrong in society and we need to figure out who needs to be executed in order to make society worth living in.
At least something smart comes out of your fingers.
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>>535506732
It's because humans evolved to be tribal and live in big families and we evolved to be more generalists. If you look at how people used to live, you had to farm your food, get water, and make your clothes, so that means the more people you had, the better, even for a house, and it also means that you felt better in your environment cuz that's literally what humans evolved for.
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>>535505665
TOTAL HUMAN EXTINCTION
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>>535506861
I said I do get what you're saying.
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>>535506762
Animals slow down or completely stop reproduction when they’re stressed and lack resources. Rich people and dumb subhumans with higher stress thresholds will maintain numbers.
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>>535505665
As easily solved forever through impersonal engineering and readily available infrastructure.

Specifically, by putting women into barns, where they will be bred and milked to the full extent of efficiency granted by human Zootechnics, and then unceremoniously disposed of with a pneumatic needle when their bodies are spent and unproductive.
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>>535505665
We near the end times brother, no new souls needed.
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>>535505665
you try to squeeze a watermelon out of your hole and see how it feels
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>>535506611
>being educated should increase your birthrate since you can support more children

being educated is being smart enough to realize that quality of life is more important than quantity of life.. and more quantity of life eventually means lower quality of life.
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>>535506974
Then we need to completely replace our economic system.

>>535506988
Seems a bit extreme but you did get digits.

>>535507069
True. But having 3 children shouldn't decrease their quality of life.
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As schizo aspie my biggest worry was always being unable to get a gf or have kids

But the normies who actually are able to, simply DONT, painful irony

I CANT BREED
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>>535505665
You do the math how much it cost to raise a kid and then ask again "why are people actively avoiding to have kids"
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The people who still want kids tend to have 2 or 3.
There's many many people who just don't want to.
This late in industrialization, with so much training necessary for anyone to be worth anything in society, people simply existing are more expensive. Kids are expensive.
Add contraception.
Before contraception, the people that didn't want kids had kids anyway.
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>>535505665
feminism
nobody dares to oppress women to have kids, not even authoritarian states

>>535506654
diffusion of feminism accelerated by communications technology

>>535507255
it's cheap, you even get paid for it many countries
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>>535507289
>it's cheap
>The average total cost for pregnancy, childbirth, and postpartum care in the United States is approximately $20,416
>ItS cHeAp

you are retarded or you think Raising a kid in poverty is OK.
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>>535507255
>average cost per child is $389,000
Holy shit.
Okay, so clearly we have failed as a society. idk if the solution is socialism or something else but I believe that the very first reasonable step to fixing this is mass executions of the political and business elite who engineered this.
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This charts shares a lot of similarities with infant mortality. They probabl share a number of causal drivers, but I suspect that falling infant mortality directly fuels lower birth rate.
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>>535505665
Society "spiritually" values "muh GDP" more than continuing civilization.

To fix it, politics MUST cater to and incentivize families and basically if everyone else has to suffer to make that happen then that's how it needs to be.

Fuck:
- Muh GDP
- Corporations
- "the rich"
- Pensions

The 1st priority is Families. That means in practice:
Having 1 child under 18 in a family, both parents receive 50% tax cut rights up to $100k income.
Having 2 children under 18, both parents receive 100% tax cut up to $100k income.

These tax breaks apply as long as both parents are contributing to raising the child. It can be revoked if one partner accuses the other of NOT contributing after which it will be arbitrated if it's true or not.
This incentivizes actually both contributing to the family.

If corporations, the rich etc. have to pay for that then either slash state expenditures or just make them pay.
What has happened is family life has been sacrificed to keep economic indices high. That needs to stop.
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>>535507289
>it's cheap, you even get paid for it many countries
>>535507337
>>The average total cost for pregnancy, childbirth, and postpartum care in the United States is approximately $20,416
Both of you are missing the real problem: housing. You only move out of your basement to breed, and as such, you may as well account housing costs into the costs of having children.
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>>535505665
only the anti-christians aren't having kids
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>>535507337
Poverty didn't used to be an obstacle, in my family line they were poor and still had lot of kids. As societies got richer they started to have less kids but being rich isn't what is causal. It is that women have lot of freedom and they choose to do different things.
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>>535505665
Really?
Kike vaccines (the one you get during childhood and not only)
Poisoned food, harmful chemicals in lots of products we use
Pollution
Feminism
Planned infantilization of men (related to vaxxes also)
Shit economy, unafordable housing
ETCETERA
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>>535507408
>To fix it, politics MUST cater to and incentivize families and basically if everyone else has to suffer to make that happen then that's how it needs to be.
>If corporations, the rich etc. have to pay for that then either slash state expenditures or just make them pay.
>What has happened is family life has been sacrificed to keep economic indices high. That needs to stop.
This guy fucks.
This is the kind of mentality we need.
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>>535505665
Its mainly women, women would rather have no children than share DNA with someone they consider sub optimal. 5/10 Woman have been gassed up to think they deserve only the best.

>>535506323
All the young women I know the man has taken them on so many awesome trips and brought so much stuff for them while being super fit and tall. They just have to be pretty nice and pleasant.
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>>535505665
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN WE CAN'T REPRODUCE UNTIL WE COVER THE WHOLE EARTH??
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I have an idea: Since the rich have a duty to society thanks to their position to influence it, they should be punished disproportionately if it is failing. That will encourage them to not be pure evil.
If the native birth rate falls below 2 per woman, everyone making over 10 million a year gets a 80% tax on their wealth every 6 months until the birthrate returns to normal.
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It's not simply feminism. It's not like all the male, soi redditors this board complains about are baby factories.
There is no fix.
The world has 50 years until an apocalyptic global depression due to there being no young workers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-gYFcVx-8Y
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>>535507625
>punishing the rich
HAHAHAHAHAHA!
Look, that can work, but they won't do it themselves my hilarious friend.
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>>535507674
Guillotining also works.
It's the only way these people ever seem to learn basic human morality and manners.
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>>535507719
Too bad you won't do shit. Now get back to work and remember to pay your taxes.
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>>535507747
I'm working on it.
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>>535506732
>it's just so weird that people no longer want to have children. That's like people no longer wanting to eat food.

No, it's like people happily breathing a gas devoid of oxygen, as long as the carbon dioxide level doesn't get too high. Because we didn’t evolve to sense oxygen levels, we evolved to sense carbon dioxide levels.

Humans didn't evolve to want children. We evolved to want to fuck. And now we've figured out how to fuck without creating children.

It's no big deal, though. In a few generations, all that will be left are those that have an instinctual or religious desire to have ten children. The population will rapidly rebound and surpass the previous peak. Then they'll really be fucked by overpopulation, as contraceptives won’t be a viable tactic anymore, they'll have to go back to using warfare for population control.
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Authoritarian states like russia and north-korea have low birthrates. They can send men to die but are unable to hold women responsible. Women are not demanded of anything.
Yes, feminism won even in russia and north-korea.
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>>535507517
The women that get funded by these men think these types of men just grow on trees. They are one breakup or tradeup from being shut out of a life like this and spend their whole lives thinking they can get back to it. Theres obviously women that probably jump onto the next rich Chad, but for the most part its a pretty rare dynamic because there not a lot of wealthy Chads and nice, pretty, pleasant women.
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>>535507895
We need authoritarian AI or alien overlords yesterday.
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>>535506861
>Also marriage is a fucking joke.
And if you are a man you are the punchline. Also, unless you want your kids to grow up and break their back being tradies then they have no future anyway.
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>>535505665
Every graph I have ever seen that shows “the world is fucked” or “it’s getting worse!!!” shows a direct correlation to the mid 80s. Any guesses?
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>>535508392
Medicine is the future. Highest paid and only will have more work as the population senilizes. Everyone needs to tell their children to go to medical schools.
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>>535507895
>Humans didn't evolve to want children. We evolved to want to fuck. And now we've figured out how to fuck without creating children.

this is simply not true. Maybe for men, but women turn into demonic succubi when ovulating
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>>535505665
>Nigeria: 5.2
>Niger: 6.7
>Nigger: +/- infinity
it's over
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>>535505665
Civilization collapse, only this time its global. Same things has happened before, everything will crash, survival mode, reset and lots of babbies again. Hopefully next time we make it off the planet instead of wasting resources on babysitting Africans or being subverted by great allies.
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>>535505665
Not one nigger mentioned the vaxx. You people fucking deserve this.
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>>535508753
>Hello. Yes, I'm retarded. I do post here, don't I?
Thanks for your input.
>VAXXIE!
I'm not, but I'm also not retarded.
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>>535505665
>WTF is up with the declining birth rate?
nothing
it's down
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>>535505665
Too expensive
Up the tax incentive by 10x and youll see babies getting popped out

The US has no interest in doing this, so importing 16 billion indians it is....
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>>535505665
Now do 2021 onwards.
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>>535505665
Scary as fuck. What are we going to do with all these Africans?
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>>535505665
hundreds if not thousands of anti-population growth strategies being implemented simultaneously by the elite to create a Malthusean end state.
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>>535508793
Says the retard who will suicide himself cause AI told him to do that.
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>give women rights
>society collapses across all cultures and economies
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>>535505665
wipepo can't breed lmao their dicks are too small lmao kys
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>>535509055
>Doubling down on schizo /pol/tr00n takes.
Society was just PERFECT and then BILL FUCKING GATES happened and got us all VAXXED to DEATH! Q PREDICTED THIS BTW!!!
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>>535505665
plastic
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>>535508605
Welcome to planet Nigger.
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20 years ago:
>omg overpopulation!!!!! The world is going to DIE
now:
>omg lower birthrates!!!!! The world is going to DIE

People are just addicted to endtimes midwittery slop thinking
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>>535505838
/thread
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>>535505665
It's NOT a money problem. It's a coupling problem. Ppl don't marry anymore, the birthrate is downstreams from that. That and culture, ppl just genuinely hate children and don't want any.
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>>535506131
Last i checked croatia has the same population as in the 1950s. Still too much huh?
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>>535509128
> someone has a point
> quick, tell him he is a flat-earth russian bot q truster migatard!
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>>535509325
That is very true. However, the coupling problem is exacerbated by longer education and delayed independence. I won't deny that culture (sexual revolution) killed marriage, but who knows what things would look like if the economic state was different.

>>535509339
It already soared too high in the middle of the last century. Historically speaking, we're all very overpopulated. Also, we used to have industry and what not. It's just a tourist resort now. No need for 4 million balkanimals here.
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>>535505665
jews
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>>535509413
Your point is retarded. Birth rates haven't changed in any considerable way since COVID, not that such a frequent decline would matter. You're just super fucking stupid. It's alright, m8. You're a Baltoid and a /pol/ poster, after all. Standards aren't high. You fit right in.
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>>535505665
This too can be explained by the supply-demand curve
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>>535509494
>frequent
recent*
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>>535505665
Birthrates are only a problem if your priority is maintaining status quo. Western native population would need to have 5+ children per couple to compensate for mass-immigration and their offspring. It's simply not happening. The system is broken and breeding is not the solution.
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>>535509494
You are too retarded to understand you are retarded.
> Birth rates haven't changed in any considerable way since COVID,
Picrel is not for you, picrel is for other anons who are not as retarded as you.
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>>535509715
>muh geystonia
Look at a real graph.
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I think there's a societal level of decision making that recognises that more people aren't necessary. That there will be no jobs or houses for children so people collectively decide not to have them. Obviously this doesn't apply to Africa because they are all dumb animals.
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>>535505838
Womens rights are based. Not killing goblin incels is not.
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>>535505665
Increase in quality of life = increased expectations; postponing family to accrue capital.
Work-centric culture = less time for relationships and family; emphasis on the grind.
More emphasis on individual than the collective = less value placed on family.
Increased cost of living = less money to raise children; less children per couple.
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>>535509498
nobody asked you faggotGPT
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>>535509715
Wow it fell by a couple of points! It was totally stable until then!
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>>535509823
> hey look a bird!
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>>535509927
Couple of decimal points*

>>535510002
Your baltoid head needs to comprehend that the world went into a decline long before you got butthurt about vaxx and subsequently discovered /pol/.
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>>535508451
I’m not pickin up what your putting down, help me out here
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>>535509927
It's unfortunate that these graphs include all races
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>>535509927
I posted RAW numbers, retard. You watch indexes, where statistic manipulation is rampant.
Within 5 years there were 33% less births, in RAW numbers.
Jesus fucking nigger.
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>>535510118
EU birth rate is propped up by niggers in France. France is all nigger today. At least zey don't speak ze gehmen.

>>535510133
No one cares about your frozen shithole.
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From birth to 18 it costs like $350k to have a kid, do you know how much awesome goy shit you can buy for $350k?
My daughters worth more than that to me, but if they're in a financial position to choose, the average millenial farm animal is choosing funko pops and weed over a child
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>>535509927
1. That's still well below replacement.

2. Those stats do not parse for niggers, muds, or jeets -- manifold more fecund than the indigenous population.

3. A significant minority are born retarded, with disabilities, have shit genetics which predispose them to being nobodies, and with various congenital disorders which truncate life -- i. e., they're not utile constituents; most likely burdens which exsangionate the able population

4. We know that the "declining population" psy-op is a kike lie used to tacitly justify importing hordes of savages into gentile lands.

5. Statistics are made up of lies and damn lies -- the #Scamdemic should have taught that to everyone.

>/context
5. M
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>>535510169
Over here a lot of new births are jeets and niggers so those graphs are hiding a terrible reality
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>>535510169
> No one cares about your frozen shithole.
Thank nigger jesus for that.
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>>535505665
It's actually balanced, considered that wars aren't a common thing anymore. High birth rates back then was necessary to replace the soldiers who die on wars, which happened often.
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>>535505665
People are being told to cut down on cholesterol (which your sex hormones are made of).
>@134:40
https://youtu.be/watch?v=Fgn7ABEyM2I&t=5681s
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im not having kids unless the economic situation is fixed,
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>>535510260
On your third point: the average age of motherhood keep increasing. Imagine the autism in the coming decades. Totally Joever for the Wyatt race.

>>535510295
Yeah, I wish Croatia wasn't on anyone's radar.
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>>535505665
Not gonna lie, I used to care about this shit, but my dad lets me use his Costco membership to go buy my contact lenses there and observing the specimen that shop at that awful place has made me think that the death of the human race wouldn't be so bad.
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>>535505665
No one can afford anything
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>>535505665
1. Feminism
2. Women's rights
3. Laws that allow women to financially divorce rape men.

4. Men's salaries are too low , inflation too high
5 . Home prices are too high
6. Home / Real estate taxes are too high

How to fix it.
1. Ban Feminism as a death cult
2. Make fcking 100 men bad again for women
3.1 Make Divorce bad again
3.2 Remove ability for women to just leave
> (based on nothing and a plan to take half of men's money)
4. Stop giving women college salary
> because she has a twat.
Start sending normal white men to colleges.
4.2 Stop boomer / FED bank inflation of everything

5. Stop boomer housing inflation.
> Boomers don't need more money
5.2 Start giving new families cheap home loans.

6. Pass a US country-wide law to make Real estate taxes $0 for Residences.
> Basically if it's a Primary residence home taxes should be $0
>this will auto increase taxes on boomers who own 3-5-10 properties

Here you go, fixed the birth rate.
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>>535510652
>4. Stop giving women Free college
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>>535510652
So many things here trying to fix marriage. Just put an end to that miserable institution already. Find a better way.
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>>535510237
People are struggling just to survive even as bachelors. But go ahead, kick people who are already down because you're impotent and powerless to fix anything.
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>>535505665
>Same thread every day over and over again
Literally off yourself.
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>>535506732
>That's like people no longer wanting to eat food.
No, it's not. You can live without children. Whereas if you do not eat then death is imminent.
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>>535506079
>people are better educated, the more educated you are the less children you have
thats not proven, just a bullshit talking point.
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>>535510109
I’m not necessarily positing any theory, I’m really asking for a general consensus on this. If you line up let’s say, “reported debt” or something on a graph, you will see it go up sharply from the 1980s. Or say, “single moms in America” it will rise. “Number of healthy people” it will go down. “Happiness meter” goes down so on and so forth.

Something, or someone, or an action was set in motion that destroyed the future in the mid 1980s, that’s about where I spot it as a “tipping point” on almost every fucking contextual graph I’ve ever seen that correlated to shit getting worse for day to day average Americans quality of life. If you want to talk “enshitifcation” of things it looks like it started there
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>>535511411
Pretty sure it's total bullshit for native Europeans, higher income means more children on average.
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>>535511456
https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/
TL;DR
Nixon
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>>535505665
cost of housing too high, all jobs in cities, dating app hypergamy, modern work culture
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>>535505665
>WTF is up with the declining birth rate?
Population control.
Chemical - "Birth Control" pill
Psychological - "Feminism"
Technological - "Dating" apps, Media
Economical - Inflation
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>>535509447
>the coupling problem is exacerbated by longer education and delayed independence
Yeah, lots of things make it worse, for sure.
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>>535511492
Oh wow I mean I genuinely feel autistic going through these. It reads as if Nixon set it up on a tee and Reagan swung as hard as he could. That’s how I visualize these graphs but my question is what was it? Because whatever it was, we are seeing it hit the green right now rolling towards the hole
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>>535505665
Wait till the clankers will ask for rights too kek, it'll be the funniest shit that will happen on this planet n all of its history.
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>>535511891
End of gold standard + automation increasing productivity, but excess wealth lining up the pockets of the few, rather than us all. Also, more workers than ever as women started working en masse + immigration. Lastly, outsourcing industry. It's a major clusterfuck. Real capitalism hasn't been tried, though.
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>>535507069
reddit mode on
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>>535511489
not only that but urbanization as well, if you allowed people to live more sparsely, i believe it would have another effect. Now everyone are like pigs in cities and you are forced to live in cities because you are poor.
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>>535511891
BTW, the pension system is a Ponzi scheme rigged to blow. It may have encouraged bad policy of the last century.
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>>535507895
I'm not so sure. It seems that a great many people want children for the sake of having children. Children are awesome.

>>535508812
Hi dad.
Nice vpn

>>535508926
holy shit
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>>535505665
No clue what’s causing it.
I don’t think it’s caused by greater education. It’s not caused by cost of living increasing. It’s not caused by women’s rights.
It’s cause is still not known to humanity I think. Maybe some kind of mass hysteria maybe.
>>535506503
that pic unironically
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>>535509254
Having children is a sign of a healthy society. Not having children is a sign of extreme dysfunction and stress.

>>535509498
Good analysis

>>535509643
We don't need to compensate for them though.
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>>535505665
the jewish psychological attack feminism
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>>535507419
Are the Amish antisemitic?
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>>535513140
I doubt it but it's impossible to ever be antisemitic enough.
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>>535508926
It's really crazy how many women had miscarriages because of stress caused by the thought of Donald Trump becoming president.
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>>535513215
It's crazy how Trump betrayed his White American voting base for the jews who hate him and who are using him like $2 whore.
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>>535512847
Jews.
Nobody wants to have kids in this jewish clownworld where they became slaves to upkeep the shitskins that roam around in gangs and gang rape little girls AND on top of that also pay all the jews so they can have their private islands to rape kids in
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>>535505665
>Feminism
>No Fault Divorce
>Abortion
>30 year old women aging out of Chad’s roster
>Jews and their collaborators devaluing the currency through international finance and central banking
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>>535505665
declining don't mean we all die. it mean less of us. it stabilizes downwards.
see, when less people then more available, less crowded, more land available, more houses, less strain on the system, less "take short showers" shit, less demand for much oil and energy and all that. so naturally people gonna go "huh, let's have some children seems more chill now".

all of these graphs and narratives are created for imbeciles to arrive and certain predetermined conclusions. they just need to draw the picture and then you go like
>huh, it is my personal conclusion that this is the state of things, nobody induced this conclusion into my brain, it is fully my rational and logical thoughts
>I know the state of things

no, others drew the lines that would lead you to having the conclusion they wanted you to arrive at, because if you arrive at it yourself you hold it stronger, because YOU figured it out, so it must be real.
>it's real! I've seen the evidence with me own eyes!
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>>535505838
This
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>>535513497
Our anti-White jewish government explicitly tried to drive down the quantity of White Americans. Then, when our numbers were reduced, the jews changed their mind and opened the floodgates with the jewish 1965 Immigration Act.

https://jaffememo.com/
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Life is a little cheaper and everyone is happier in africa. Here in the west its all bills, bullshit and career.
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>>535513562
>it stabilizes downwards.
Why?
I mean, it MIGHT stabilize after a few generations, but it didn't for the past 200 years and we're at the point where generations are halving in 20-30 years, and there's no rebound in sight.

I mean, there WILL be a rebound because Christ is king, but it won't be in a world most ppl today would recognize
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>>535513348
nope
Russia, japan and south africa and brazil are in very different circumstances but they too are seeing declines
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>>535513562
Control of population is going to be something essential in the future with more and more people concentrating in big cities.

First thing I would do is split the megacities. It's not logical to have millions of people living in the same city when you can split the population into 4 cities and that makes the living conditions better.
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>>535506611
>assuming education makes you better off
Why would you assume that?
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>>535505665
Young men would rather play video games and watch porn.
Can't blame them. The jews have made work miserable. The jews have made university and college unbearable. The jews have wars (jewish harvests) started so young men dont want to die for israel in jewcraine and iran, etc. The jews have made money "die" by inflation so making money the old fashioned way is annoying as the jews steal the value of earned money with usury and inflation. The jews have captured most churches and the bitches there expect too much. The churches are failing to have couples meet (mostly due to bitchy women infected by jew thinking) and couples that form are not having enough children. Most Christian churches have been compromised by jews.
Destroy the jew. Utterly and to the last.
It is the boomers that have made the jew so bold and this has caused a generational issue. Until the men of this country decide to destroy the jew, or the women ask the men to destroy the jew to make things right, then hell on earth will be created by these rat vermin jews busy terraforming for satan.
Jesus, the last jew, didnt call them the synagogue of satan for no reason.
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>>535511456
My response is late I was busy with irl stuff but thanks for the reply. And yeah I see what you meant now.
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>>535513864
>generations are halving in 20-30 years...
And that's a good thing.

The world population reached 2 billion for the first time in 1927. It has more than quadrupled since. There are simply too many damn people. Everyone knows it intuitively and shrinking populations are a much needed correction to this aberration.
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>>535513983
All of them have jews too. Jews literally ended the apartheid in SA and handed the country over to the niggers. And wrong niggers too, the jews made up a story about how the bantu niggers are aschsually native when historically they absolutely are not, when english and dutch came only scattered khoi san bush men were there. But jews told the world that "justice" happened when the country was handed over to Mandela and his bantuniggers, who btw keep the actual natives the khoisan who are yellow niggers not black ones, out of power keeping all the power to the blacks.
Its literally same as if kazakhstan was handed over to the japanese because they're both "asian". But the important thing from jewish perspective was get it off White hands.
Jews also made Churchill fight Hitler and dismantle the British Empire. Mosley would have done neither.
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>>535513983
Japan has jews too. Jews forced their gates open to shitskins.

Case: Japan

When the shabbos goy Truman nuked Japanese civilians twice to submission and then Americans flew to Japan to force a new constitution for them, a Kike Rat tagged along.

Guess what the Kike Rat put in the new japanese constitution?
It put the part where japanese are not allowed by law to discriminate based on race or religion.

In other words, after thousands of years of isolation creating a perfectly harmonious society, the JEW forces them to accept kikes and their niggers.
There is nothing as destructive and perfidious in this world as the ugly dysgenic parasitic freak that is the inbred mongrelized JEW.

JEW goes around and destroys societies with genetics honed for thousands of years becoming of pure unmixed blood and thus great societies.
JEW wants to mix this blood, destroy this blood, destroy this society.

Letting a JEW in your society will result to HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF YEARS OF EVOLUTION BEING UNDONE
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White birth rates are up in America. Still below place replacement levels.
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humanity is rejecting the demiurge loosh simulation
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>>535505665
Shitskins need to haelve less babies. Whites and asians need to have 2 kids a pop
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>>535513983
Russia has been owned by jewish oligarchs since 1917. The whole idea of communism was to overthrow your rulers and replace them with jews. Then jews killed millions of your people in return, targeting the most intelligent ones that would be most likely to resist the jewish rule.
After USSR fell the jewish commissaars simply put the state enterprises to their own pockets and stopped the "proletariat" pretense and started buying superyachts parking them at Haifa and megamansions in Tel Aviv and private islands to rape kids in.
Average russian is poor as shit because jews steal all the national resources
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>>535505665
https://youtube.com/shorts/CqyiERmRcTI
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>>535505665
Children of men timeline
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>>535514436
>Guess what the Kike Rat put in the new japanese constitution?
>It put the part where japanese are not allowed by law to discriminate based on race or religion.
>
>In other words, after thousands of years of isolation creating a perfectly harmonious society, the JEW forces them to accept kikes and their niggers.
>There is nothing as destructive and perfidious in this world as the ugly dysgenic parasitic freak that is the inbred mongrelized JEW.
>
>JEW goes around and destroys societies with genetics honed for thousands of years becoming of pure unmixed blood and thus great societies.
>JEW wants to mix this blood, destroy this blood, destroy this society.
>
>Letting a JEW in your society will result to HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF YEARS OF EVOLUTION BEING UNDONE
jewish "Education", jewish media, jewish movies, jewish newspapers, jewish news outlets, jewish CEOs, jews in charge of banking, jewish landlords, jewish slumlords, jewish rentseeking, jewish lawyers, jewish judges, jewish jewdicial system, jews invading the Christian churches, jewish "Doctors," jewish goyslop, jewish poisons, dyes and additives in food, jewish pornography, jewish social media, jewish "Dating applications," jewish music industry, jewish "Fashion," jewish propaganda, PR/public relations and advertising, jewish harvests/wars, jewish CEOs like Borla of Pfizer who are horse doctors and not medical doctors for humans making jewish vaccines, jewish Big Tech, extreme jewish overrepresentation in government, the jewish Federal Reserve and jewish talmudism and jewish kabbalah in general.
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>>535505665
you racist faggots removed my ability to climb the socio-economic ladder.
so this is what you get. i can survive this longer than you can.
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>>535514359
It should follow for Christians too. Judah wanted to execute Tamara for fornication because she was found to be pregnant without a husband. Wouldn't that be a double-homicide (including of an innocent person) if fetuses were considered persons?
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Women need to be restrained otherwise the jews will trick them into ending their bloodline and the nation as a whole.
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>>535514263
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>>535505665
>the average South Korean woman was having more than six children within living memory
actually insane
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>>535505665
>go outside
>see niggers, homeless junkies, indians
>"I cannot raise children in this environment, but I cannot escape yet"
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>>535514707
Abortion needs to be outlawed for Aryans. The jews need to shut the fuck up forever and Aryans need to distrust them. If the jews and their nigger hoards want to kill themselves, great.
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>>535505838
Took 3 posts to find the obvious. As soon as Afghanistan kicked out their Jewish masters they were able to bri g their rates back up
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>>535514414
>>535514436
>>535514542
damn good job swatting down my cases
fair enough
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>>535513215
(You)
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People would like to have 2 children.
Half of people never get there.
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>>535515054
Kek!
Saved
I always noticed a certain "feminist phenotype."
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>>535515094
yeah once you dig far enough you will always find jews
the every single time rule is no joke
i thought it was at first but after years of research and maximum redpilling i found it to be almost a natural law
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>>535514035
Statistical trends aside, one would intuitively assume that more knowledge and skills would lead to higher wealth.
But yes, I'm aware that the American education system is about making you more vulnerable to exploitation by capitalists and debt.
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>>535515544
>oh nooo goyim its not da joos its da catholics
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>>535515544
"Human Rights Watch"
NGO that makes sure that you dont deport any criminal non whites or disallow infinity migrants to come in by the jew-penned UN Refugee Convention of 1951
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>>535514707
You are Croatian, though. That's worse than being russian or indian.
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>>535505665
>Women took all good jobs away from men
>Boomers got rid of slut shaming culture and monogamy
>economy so ass only top 10% have enough money to buy a home and raise a family properly
>female hypergamy
>nothing being done about any of the issues, only gaslighting that men are the problem
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>>535511169
>if they're in a financial position to choose
Mutt education on full display.
I also have a child and I'm not loaded, I've done and still do plenty to support legislation and local entities that help make starting a family easier. I'm aware it's still much harder than it was for my parents, but it's important to me, so I bear the financial burden no matter what I have to give up in the process.
Your journey to parenthood begins with finding someone who's willing to breed with a retard, I'm already doing my part
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>>535505665
Jews and mass immigration jacking up the cost of living out of our reach.
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>>535505665
is it bad that i'd rather have black people populating instead of indians?

i'm onto something right?
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>>535506732
Tons of people would love to have children but the issue is for men they can’t find a normal girl or afford a family and for women they just slut it up with chads because they get fomo that they will miss out on experiencing the best time of their lives if they don’t become party sluts during their youth and then end up post wall roasties that nobody wants and become bitter and crazy
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>>535516378
false dichotomy. We don't need to choose between orcs and goblins. Man could dominate instead.
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>>535510784
It's easy .
Boomers who are still in charge of the govs in USA and Europe,
get together, find balls, and agree to pass $0 Property tax laws - $0 taxes on Primary residences.

Then you stop giving women free scholarships into colleges, just because they have a wagina.
>we already banned DEI,
>by merit men should get to colleges.

Feminism is pushed by an oligarchy.
In USA it is pushed by the CIA.
Basically tell them to stop pushing it.

We are currently trying to balance the budget , first time ever.
When your gov balances a budget,
you don't have to print extra billions or trillions that cause Inflation of everything.
>including houses.

Cheap loans to newly weds are easy.

Basically you need to remove Financial divorce rape laws, that allow women to randomly leave and take half of men's stuff. That's going to be a tough one to fix.

The rest is propaganda, just shame women back again into thinking that Divorce is bad,
and that being a whore and sleeping with 100+ men before "settling" is also bad .
Propaganda is easy.
You turn off Feminist and LGBT++ propagana, and turn on "Divorce is bad, and being a whore is bad" propaganda.
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>>535514542
>Russia has been owned by jewish oligarchs since 1917.
A literal retard level 1980-ies CIA/ mi6 Bullshit.
In fact Russia flushed jews numerous times.
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>>535506079
>young people drink less or not at all (shit is expensive)
True that younger gens drink less or not at all, but alcohol is cheap as fuck currently. Big alcohol is freaking out about product just rotting away on shelves or in warehouses.
This is more due to cultural shifts than economic ones.
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>>535510118
Reaganism and Thatcherism
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>>535516532
>>535505665
>Feminism is pushed by an oligarchy.
>In USA it is pushed by the CIA.
>Basically tell them to stop pushing it.

>The rest is propaganda, just shame women back again into thinking that Divorce is bad,
>and that being a whore and sleeping with 100+ men before "settling" is also bad .
>Propaganda is easy.
>You turn off Feminist and LGBT++ propagana, and turn on "Divorce is bad, and being a whore is bad" propaganda.

Feminist magazine me
>Based in Arlington, Virginia,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ms._(magazine)

Original editor is self admitted CIA agent.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gloria_Steinem

What else is in Arlington , Virginia?
Magically, the Pentagon.
>Location : Arlington, Virginia,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pentagon

Clearly the CIA is pushing Feminism.
If they want any birth rates, they need to stop pushing feminism.
And start pushing that Divorce is bad, and being a whore is also bad , and other family values.
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>>535506611
More money = more problems.
Until you reach a certain threshold where you can pay people to do a bunch of tedious shit for you, kids are an extra and excessive burden.
Culturally, people still yearn for a single-income household in which one parent is the main housekeeper and child rearer. This being an impossibility for the vast majority of child-bearing aged young adults, couples then enter a lose-lose situation of having a child regardless then suffering the massive financial and mental strain or waiting indefinitely for the ideal situation to have a child.
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>>535509823

>if we force every women to be pregnant birth rates rise

Yeah no shit sherlock, have fun raising a generation of people whose parents didn't want to have them
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>>535507067
I didn't feel anything tbqh
T. Ended up needing a c section
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>>535506131
It's a problem well it's only a problem if you care about function of your state. Not enough people putting money in the box means less pension, less healthcare and later no infrastructure maintenance and if it drops really badly you start getting ghost villages and taxes so high that you won't be able to pay them.

Instead of importing niggers which nobody wants system needs to be changed.
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>>535517771
>have fun raising a generation of people whose parents didn't want to have them
As I said above.
There is NEVER a situation that humans don't WANT to have sex or kids.
Only 2 things stop humans from having kids:
1. a literal inability to have them.
>too expensive, no houses etc.
2. a heavy ANTI family propaganda.
>such as Feminism, LGBT++ , faggots, lesbos, reverse gender roles etc.

This is fixable , if you stop the Feminist propaganda.
You are going to have to admit at the top ,yeah we fcked with women too much.
And turn Feminist propaganda off:
>>535517078
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>>535508753
>trend starts in 1960s
>IT'S DA VAXX
Antivaxxers are dumber than niggers
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>>535518440
>Not enough people putting money in the box means less pension

The government will always have to pay a pension that is enough to have a decent life because first you can't leave millions of retired people without a decent income and second because that political party would lose millions of votes. If it can't be funded only with labor tax then it will be funded by other type of taxes.
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>>535505665
Modern females don't want kids, they are permanently on birth control, get dogs and treat them as kids
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>>535506611
people didn't get smart because they were having children anon. it may be hard to understand but intelligence is something that takes a lot of continual time and effort
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>>535520020
The purpose of life is to create more life. Besides, after you've played videogames and gone outside, what is left but the joy of having a child who think's you're amazing just because you can pick them up?
Furthermore, I disagree that intellect requires much effort. Some people are just born smart. Knowledge requires more conscious effort, but picking up a huge array of knowledge can easily be accomplished in the 13 years of school, especially if the child in question is curious and reads.
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>>535505665
The result of men like me, I fuck women, I don't marry, I also don't nut inside because the hole doesn't deserve my money. You want a better birthrate? I don't want to work anymore, suck my cock and lick my anus, do it well enough I'll give you more slaves. Otherwise. Not my problem. Don't care. Let the niggers and jeets take over. It's way easier than trying, and I don't do hard things that don't give a reward.
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>>535505665
bleep bloop bing bing wahoo flick flicks are engineered to feel more rewarding than furthering the species by inseminating a fertile womb with your erect penis
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>>535520451
there is no purpose to life except what you make of it. giving in completely to your animal instincts just sounds like you're subhuman? and clearly intelligence is much harder than you make it out to be. since you are obviously stupid by your language and the implication that 13 year olds aren't desperately struggling in education right now
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>>535505665
The solution would be mandatory births. Round up all white women and put them into a barn at the age of 20 until they pop out one child. Then do this again when they're 23 and again at the age of 26. Instant TFR of 3.0 with no fluctuations whatsoever. In the mean time, speed up the development of artificial wombs. Once you have them, every country should set a quota of children to produce every year to keep the population low (we're already overpopulated, BUT STABLE). Mandatory sterilisation for everybody else
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>>535506079
>everything is recorded or tracked and people feel like they have less privacy which causes anxiety and anxious stressed people don't fuck or make children or want to bring children into a world that's constantly spying on them
Well said. The big brother is a great evil
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>>535521830
13 year olds are struggling due to a myriad of factors.
All of which are not their fault.
I am probably more intelligent than you and you have a midwit, hedonistic perspective on the meaning of life.
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>>535517771
Better than just fucking collapsing, you stupid Moroccan.
> No shit Sherlock
Oh I see, you're a redditor
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>>535516608
> Lines goes up just in time to be holocausted
Kek, almost as if those people never existed
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>>535522060
>13 year olds are struggling due to a myriad of factors.
so you agree with me that intelligence does not come easily
>I am probably more intelligent than you and you have a midwit, hedonistic perspective on the meaning of life.
I doubt it since all you can do is be wrong and spout big words you don't know the meaning to. What's your highest level of education? Do you take time to seek out knowledge by reading books or anything like that? Have you used your supreme intelligence to make a lot of money and have loads of children like you desire?
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>>535505665
high aoc = aging population = exponential drop, its really that simple. now call me bad words for pointing out the obvious.
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>>535505665
People don't breed if the future looks bleak
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>>535505665
media demoralization
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>>535522348
You're confusing intelligence with high test scores and low anxiety. Intelligent children can still be flustered by the intensely unnatural state we put them in.

Some college, dropped out because of lack of drive after I was forced to take feminist classes. I read books and my small library contains pretty few books that aren't non-fiction. Most are about practical things, history, and low intensity conflicts. I genuinely don't care about money beyond my immediate needs and never tried making lots of it but I doubt that I could if I tried because I don't like trading stocks on a deep, deep visceral level. I frankly believe that all stock traders need to be executed in a very painful way as it produces nothing of value. I don't have children.
I glean that you're low IQ given how obviously you get upset on an anonymous internet forum. Very bad sign.
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>>535505665
stop your bitching, look at the Amish or Haredi, they have 5+ kids without any fancy education, or technology, or high paying jobs.

what the fuck is YOUR excuse?
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>>535522683
>lots of anxiety
>some college
>no money
>no children
>I glean that you're low IQ given how obviously you get upset on an anonymous internet forum. Very bad sign.
An intelligent person would work hard to make sure they aren't a failure like you are anon. I would know, intelligence is something you have to work hard for. And once you have enough of it you can be relaxed, be top 0.1% educated, big six fig job with no debt to enable you to do the things you desire (like gaining knowledge or having kids). I pity you. You have a lot of arrogance and nothing to show for it
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Women simply don't want to have kids with lesser men. It's that simple.
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>>535523236
lol, you yourself said that there's no purpose to life and thus no way to fail it. Now we have, at face value, traded places. Though I won't argue that I'm not succeeding at life since I lack children. So in practice, you just crossed over to my perspective.
>be top 0.1% educated
That is a completely meaningless statement with no objective definition
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>>535523848
Life is what you make of it - very different anon. You make it out to be about having children yet have no children. So you've failed. I don't have to step into your shoes to understand that
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>>535524384
That's a meaningless statement.
I never denied that so far I've failed. You have too but that's neither here nor there.
Your hedonistic outlook is mid tire though.
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>>535525080
It's not meaningless. You're just too low IQ to appreciate that you get to choose
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>>535505838
This. Every successful civilization kept women as property for a reason.
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>>535525459
If life is "what you make it" then it is impossible to fail it, and thus your other statement is meaningless.
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>>535505665
Only a retard would offer up a new soul to this digital cancer world ran by corrupt rats that rule with obey or else and then do anything they want.

Eat shit and die OP zZzZzzzZzZzz yawn.
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>>535525606
idk how else to explain this to you anon other than that you're clearly wrong and you can still fail. this truth should be self-evident to you
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>>535505665
We don't need more people
Everything is already too expensive.
We are limited on our resources.
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>>535522790
dont amish people molest kids?
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>>535505665
Women having impossible standards only choosing 6 foot 6 pack 6 figure salary dudes. Dating apps give them a plethora of options usually 20 dudes per woman. No where you can even approach women anymore because you'll get accused of sexual harassment or they will already have a boyfriend or reject/ghost you for not being a chad.
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>>535526016
You lack the ability to articulate ideas because you're low IQ.
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>>535505665
Fertility exists because people want to fuck.
Christcucks deluded themselves into thinking people want to have kids. Very few people want kids. People want to fuck and historically that made kids.
Then we invented really good birth control and changed culture so you can fuck casually and no one cares.
The real mystery is why anyone but a few religious kooks are having kids at all (low impulse control and social conditioning of aging women being the answer)
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>>535505665
Prozzak vindicated
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>>535505665
Too expensive
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>>535526289
Bump
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>>535505665
It's both extremely complicated and extremely simple. In a word, jews.
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>>535510337
The 2.1 replacement rate is, by definition, "balanced" (to maintain the same population). Being below that rate means you have a shrinking population.
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>>535505665
Women got out of the kitchen.
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>>535505665
Mentally ill brainwashed liberal white women who all think that they are going to marry Chad and they pass up infinity decent men who actually would’ve loved them for some stupid fucking reason
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Women are fucking evil
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MICROPLASTICS AND
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>>535505665
The decline of men approaching women functions like a political shock even when nobody frames it that way.
It reshapes family formation. Fewer approaches mean fewer relationships, later marriages, lower birth rates, and accelerating demographic decline. That feeds directly into labor shortages, pension stress, immigration politics, and generational conflict. Governments can pass incentives but they cannot legislate attraction or courage.

Second, it polarizes gender politics. Many women interpret non-approach as disinterest or resentment while many men experience it as rational risk avoidance shaped by social sanction, economic precarity, and fear of misreading norms. Each side builds narratives about the other and political movements harvest those grievances.

Third, it weakens informal social trust. Approaching a stranger used to be a low-level civic act that trained people to tolerate rejection, ambiguity, and difference. When that disappears, people retreat into apps, algorithms, and identity-filtered spaces which harden group boundaries and reduce empathy.

Fourth, it shifts power to platforms and institutions. Dating apps, HR departments, and legal frameworks mediate intimacy that used to be negotiated face to face. That concentrates cultural authority in systems optimized for liability management and profit, not human bonding.

Finally, it produces downstream radicalization. Large populations of unattached men historically correlate with instability, withdrawal, or extremist politics. Most do not become violent but many disengage from civic life, work, and optimism itself which is politically corrosive.
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>>535505665
WHY AREN'T PEOPLE PRODUCING MORE MAGIC NUMBER GENERATORS!?
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>>535505665
WE ARE BEING MONITORED, CAN'T GET IT UP WHEN THEY BE WATCHING!!
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>>535505665
Demiurge in fucking shambles
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>>535505665
everyone's broke senpai
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>>535506358
Yup. Genesis told US between the lines too but you all prefer pagan matriarchy anyway.
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>>535506611
Women Putting their Bosses before their husbands And their Jobs before their families IS indeed another big Problem anf absolute Classic Problem of females. Can anyone fucking explain this?
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>>535530622
>Insert niggers
>Fertility Crashes even in Africa
>Just add more niggers
Absolutely American.
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I wonder... maybe people can't afford to buy houses? Maybe people aren't willing to move 1000 miles from their family just so they have an affordable place to raise children?

we are putting the interests of business before those of the people
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>>535505665
South Korea’s birth rate has been below replacement since the 1980’s?
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>>535506079
> people are better educated, the more educated you are the less children you have
That just means that “education” is anti-natalist brainwashing and indoctrination.
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>>535505665
women's education.
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>>535533951
women's propaganda
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>>535505838
>>535506079
>>535506131

>> NORMIES DO RETARDED THINGS
>> SUB-HUMANS RAPING PEOPLE AND ACTING LIKE GENERAL RETARDS

GOD HAS FORSAKEN YOUR PLANET. ENJOY MOLOCH & JEWS YOU STUPID GOYIM
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>noooo keep birthing wageslaves for billionaires goyim
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>>535505665
Animal populations are limited by resource supply.
Animals naturally reduce births to maintain equilibirum with their environment.

Failure to do so hastens the extinction of the animal population. Anyone who fights against this nature has ulterior motives...
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>>535522790
Over 1-in-10 Amish pregnancies results in a stillbirth. The general rate for American pregnancies are 1-in-175. The Amish are doing what all animals who can't ensure the survivability of their species without producing as many as possible.
You logic is fundamentally flawed.
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Fix the money problem and every other problem will fix itself.
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>>535505665
I'm an attractive, fit, smart man who is unemployed. I don't care about pursuing a career anymore after having been displaced from my last one by AI, and I'm dirt ass broke because of it. I often have girls clearly showing interest in me but I was raised by a single mom with only sisters and I just have no idea how to interact with women romantically. That's my (likely) justification, at least

I'm a liberal and all for universal freedoms and everything, but I got to admit: the combination of liberal corporatism growing massive, powerful companies; women's liberation leading to more single mothers and powerful women; and social media turbofucking society into the ground; all has led to some pretty fucked birthrates. I guess in the end I'm ok with our species finding out after having liberally fucked around. You don't stop a kid from touching the hot thing; they need to learn. That, unfortunately, means pain for a lot of people in the mean time

Personally, I've leaned into philosophical buddhism, the acceptance of suffering, and renunciation of all that was promised
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>>535505665
Pregnancy gives women the ick.
Women's rights and control freak behaviour plus all the problems stemming from it.
Living standards.
Slut behaviour.
Birth control and abortion.
Contraceptives.
"Education" (which includes indoctrination and disinformation).
Overcrowding.
Different priorities.
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>>535540296
Nigga its basically, Being a house wife is not longer an attractive "career", assuming is even viable.

All the other thing yes sure, but also the MAN OF THE HOUSE could pay work 40h/week mid level white collar job and confortably earn enough for himself, his wife and 2 kids while the wife took care of the home affairs.

Right now its practically impossible to keep those standards unless you earn 150-200K AFTER TAX by yourself (and this is lowballing it)
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>>535535736
>gets replaced by the amish
>b-but muh enlightened sub-replacement birthrates!
thank god for the amish
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>>535505823
More electronic entertainment in general but yeah



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