*tactical trvke incoming*Aristotle said 2000 years ago usury is unjustifiable as money does not produce money, so its purely theft of productive works of labor.Fast forward another 2000 years and Marx says that capital (money) doesnt create value on its own, and neither do the bankers who lend to these capitalists in the first place.Usury in capitalist society is one parasite (the banker) taking money from another parasite (the capitalist) who ultimately steal that wealth from the workers they steal from.American fatso retardos are so dumb they cant wrap their mind how worthless their economy really is, and all they have going for them is the military forcing the US dollar on the world.
>>535672950Usury bad = TKDExcept Marx was a kike trying to misdirect people away from the above truth and pointing the rebelling goyim towards their own goyim kings and entrepreneurs that were competing with the kikes.
>>535673089> waghh Jesus was a usurerThe romans were usurers. The greeks were usurers. The church were usurers. The Protestants were mega central banking usurers.> waghhh jewsLol
>>535673089Marx is lutheran
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>>535672950I only read Das Kapital. Marx had a much better sense of humor than Herman Melville. Dry and sarcastic.I like capitalism. It's like fire. Fire shouldn't be in charge of society. Fire should be useful
>>535672950>commie trying to equate usury with wage labor to appeal to chudsCome on now lol.
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>>535673089>brazilian intellectuals
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>let's listen to a terminal freeloaderNo. Show me who he plagiarized.
>>535672950we don't stand for that commie bs in America, take your Marx, Soros and Hitler and shove it
>>535672950>memeflag>tubke nvke >akshually communism is good, all the times it’s failed weren’t REAL communism
>>535674576Go worship the Spanish billionaire who bought the 407 liberal cuck>>535674492This is a fake letter>>535674862WE AAAAAARE CHAHLIE KUUUURK
>>535673243>wahh jewsAlmost forgot, communism is an entirely jewish invention. Just another reason to hate both groups to the point of extermination
>>535674974>it’s fakeIt’s real, and you’re afraid. Memeflaggot kike
>>535674974and the others are fake too? lmao
>>535674954Germany was moving towards socialism and it looksmogged Britain so badly they had to declare two world wars on them.China is chadmaxxing america so hard right now because they decided to become an industrial nation moving towards communism, while america regressed into a beta neo-feudal rent seeking society.
>>535674988> communism is an entirely jewish inventionExactly, thats why its not retarded unlike what you believe. Educated people produced it unlike you Larry the cable goy>>535675080Yes
>>535675095>germany was moving towards socialismNational socialism, which is entirely incompatible with communism. This is what led to the war with the USSR. >China is doing greatOh, so you’re actually retarded. I guess that explains the memeflag, I wouldn’t want to embarrass my country like that either
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But Aristotle was wrong. Money can produce money...once you add time.
>>535675173>educated people created itThey weren’t educated, and most of them were lifetime NEETs like your faggot Marx. >communism isn’t retardedGive me one example of it working. Just one.
>>535675173>yes communism is jewish >yes the quotes are fake lmao, what a sad sad kike you are
>>535674576it's not to appeal to the chuds, what he's describing is a cornerstone of his gay as fuck ideology, all communists believe this
>>535675187> national socialismIts based on outdated history that turned out to not be true. For example the idea that jews were genetically evil usurers is false. It turns out it was the greeks and romans who created the modern form of it.
>>535675245Communism is just a factual understanding of how capitalism will evolve. The Germans were the first ones to really push things in that direction by getting rid of the english central banking model. Thats because the Germans needed an efficient economy to industrialize rapidly.Then you and the English declared world war on them twice. Then you declared another war on world socialism during the cold war.But you trannies lost the strait of hormuz so China will bring the coming socialist golden age.
>>535675436usury was practiced by the Sumerians. Kike harder.
>>535675294Christianity was invented by a jew too. It takes highly empathetic good people to come up with revolutionary ideas like this.>>535675399More like based as fuck ideology. Go lick Margaret thatchers toes while she sells off your ancestral lands as reparations for the holly.
>>535675738well aware christianity is kike created. It is a death cult, kikes have never been empathetic in their entire history. Why is it that all you can do is lie?
>>535672950Marx was a materialist. That means his philosophy should be considered dead as he does not exist anymore. Having a philosophy exist beyond death as ideas spread between people is a spiritual and non-material phenomenon. The fact that his philosophy is even discussed and that his ideas can exist independently of him is proof that his philosophy contradicts reality. I don't even need to discuss anything in detail or even entertain the rest of the Marxist drivel. >AristotleAristotle has nothing to do with Marx. Opposition to Usury? See the church in the 5th century. Marx loved Usury btw. Marx just didn't like it when he wasn't the one most benefiting from it. He regularly gambled on the London stock exchange and bragged about his winnings to his uncle. So much about believing in the drivel he pushed.
>>535675399Commies basically never talk about usury or money printing. They'll get very suspicious that you're a fascist if you bring these things up to them. Their whole thing is about muh surplus value in wage labor specifically.
>>535675706Correct, but the sumerians also had kings who forgave debts owed by the common people to usurers. The jews copied that idea and called it the Jubilee in their old testament. What was unique about the greeks and romans is they killed their kings and were ruled by oligarchs who were usurers. So the debts were never forgiven and the people lost their lands and freedom to their debtors.Thats why "tyrant" in greece and "king" in rome were considered dirty words. Because the worst thing you could be was someone who would stand up to usury in the eyes of European rulers.
>>535675867Marx talks about banking in volume 3 of Kapital you moron.
>>535675907>It turns out it was the greeks and romans who created the modern form of it. >same form since its inception in sumeria >moves goal posts >is a kike why bother posting at all? all you do is lie.
>>535676071Wrong. The kings in Sumeria forgave debts. The Egyptians did too, its literally the first thing that was translated in the Rosetta stone."and exempted them from some of the revenues and taxes levied in Egypt and alleviated others so that his people and all others could be in prosperity during his reign ;“and that he cleared the debts to the crown for many Egyptians and for the rest of the kingdom; ”What the greeks and romans did was kill their kings so no one could protects them from usurers, because the people that killed the kings were the usurers.The europeans killed every hero who stood up to usury, from Socrates to Jesus christ to even Julius Caesar himself.
>>535672950>Fast forward another 2000 years and Marx says that capital (money) doesnt create value on its own,But this is clearly horseshit from a degenerate commie jew. Let me tell a story.This is a story about Joe. Joe works a shit job that doesn't pay much... but he scrimps and he saves. He takes what little extra he has left over, and hides it under his mattress. Over the years, it adds up. He has $40,000 in savings (even as inflation eats away at it). Joe takes that money and buys a food truck.Wasn't that money capital? He created value by saving his money. He could have squandered it like so many millennials and zoomers. It wasn't fun scrimping.Joe soon finds out that he cannot work the food truck alone. He hires his worthless brother-in-law Larry (not even his brother-in-law, this guy didn't marry Joe's sister, he just shacks up with her). According to Marx, Larry provides all the value here, and Joe provided none. In fact, as the "worker", Larry deserves to have the food truck for himself. It's the "means of production after all".But without Joe's scrimping and saving, Larry is smoking dope and making Joe's slut sister support him. But communist jew faggots value Larry more than Joe. Why? Because Larry will help them tear civilization apart, while Joe just wants to be wholesome and build it up.I understand Marx perfectly. And it is the moral duty of anyone who invents time travel to go back and smother him in his crib (don't forget to assassinate Engels and Hegel too).
>>535676889Money has no value, otherwise it couldnt be inflated away. Its just a medium of exchange.
>>535672950falsepvke
>>535672950>Marxa bum who lived off his faggot boyfriends money
>>535672950That isn't what Marx thought though. What you describe also isn't usury and you don't seem to understand what banking is.>"money isn't real"It's highly metaphysical but it's still materially real with material consequences. You appear to have stumbled upon an issue that may as well be summed up as "money and finance is kinda bs".
>>535674227>>535675738>equates talmudists with 2nd temple Hebrews
>>535672950I don't understand a single word you saidAnyways i'm going to donate my money to israel now
>>535677787Charging interest of any kind is usury.What's wrong with what I said about banks? Bankers are the ones with the monopoly on printing money, and they lend it out to capitalist parasites on interest.
>>535678294>Charging interest of any kind is usury.Not if the debtor is a goy
>>535675738>More like based as fuck ideology.Only a schnorrer could say something like that.Marx was a schnorrer.You are a schnorrer.Every communist is a schnorrer.What is a schnorrer?A sponge. A mooch. A freeloader. A layabout. A ne'er-do-well. A cadger. A beggar. A loser. (You).
>>535678931Nice Id "im so gay". Phaggot
>>535672950Usury bad, but marx was someone that confused the powers of the world with some type of enslavement, and destroyed the working class.
The Jews doing some parasitic agenda, they want to defraud people, they have some hidden alliance with the magi, they do hidden rites against the LORD. They try to confound the nations to be enslaved by their reptilian agenda, with false bargains.
The Jews use magic tricks to confuse the people.
The Jews behind the scenes literally work with the demons, they want to steal our organs.
>>535672950>American fatso retardos are so dumb they cant wrap their mind how worthless their economy really is, and all they have going for them is the military forcing the US dollar on the world.The immovable bank meets the unstoppable factory. Who will win?
>>535675670>ok I can’t point to a successful communist country >but that’s because it’s never been actually triedAh, so you can’t but that’s because every communist country wasn’t actually communist
>>535676295By the way, debt abolition was something both the Greeks and the Romans did multiple times. You tankies are routinely the least educated people alive
>>535678931>Only a schnorrer could say something like that.>Marx was a schnorrer.>You are a schnorrer.>Every communist is a schnorrer.>What is a schnorrer?>A sponge. A mooch. A freeloader. A layabout. A ne'er-do-well. A cadger. A beggar. A loser. (You).You will never say this about the speculators and billionaires mooching off the government though. Their shtick has you convinced they provide value while they receive a government check just like any other welfare coon.
>>535672950marx not important, that shit was 200 years ago move on
>>535672950>Marx is right>because AristotleConvincing argument, now give me my coffee.
>>535672950Commies don't understand economics. The gaunlet was thrown down in 1920 with the publication of Economic Calculation in the Socialist Commonwealth and commie still don't have an answer because they're all retarded
>>535672950https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOJCmPKaYN8>all they have going for them is the military forcing the US dollar on the world.No shit, nigger. Everyone should be American because the alternative is to be a dead terrorist.
>>535672950>>535672950>>535672950COMMUNISM COLLAPSED YOU LOST GET THE FUCK OVER IT YOU SHITSKIN MEMEFLAGGOT
>>535681658>speculators and billionaires mooching off the government though.Schnorrer isn't exactly the right word for them but they are parasites too. I have no problem acknowledging that the government is a tool of exploitation. That's why communist systems have basically the same distribution of resources of capitalist systems. The thing simpletons like you don't realize is that the parasites exist in either system. The difference is that in communism they hold government positions instead of positions in private enterprise. The thing that remains constant is that losers like you get exploited.
>>535683798>The thing that remains constant is that losers like you get exploited.You are a slave nigger that says YES MASSA everytime you are whipped. Calling other people freeloaders is just a projection of your impotence to call the ones whipping you freeloaders. Lower your tone when speaking to me, NIGGER. They crack the whip on your back and your pathological response is to call the other slaves losers and whatever bullshit you want. You are a filthy coon that dreams of living in the house like massa, but you will never be able to. That in itself is fucking hilarious to me.
>>535684041I've been self employed for over a decade. I have a nice life, make decent money, and basically do as I please. Project harder.
>>535683077>COMMUNISM COLLAPSED
>>535682399>commie still don't have an answer because they're all retardedEvery communist I've ever met has been the entitled child of petite bourgeoisie. Mostly just wimpy kids of slightly above average IQ with coddling parents who can't compete in the real world, so they try to intellectualize their desire for others to provide for them just like their parents used to (or in many cases still do).
>>535684454Lies. Tell you what, you're right, I am a beggar, and I'm begging you to please stop being a faggot nigger. Doing as you please? Kvetching like a kike bitch on the Russian moose hunting forums is pleasurable to you instead of enjoying your allegedly large stacks of cash? You lame fuck, get out of here. Instead of criticizing these monorail salesman billionaire faggots you are over here picking on bums with maggots eating their feet on their way out anyway.
You can’t trvke yourself
>>535672950What would Marx think about putting AI data centers in our backyards?
>>535684697Muh mom and pop's mop shop!You are just as childish and you don't even want to see it.
GOD IS A CHILD RAPING NIGGER WHO CAME DOWN AS KARL MARX TO RAPE 4 YEAR OLDS god is a child raping kikethere is no omnipotencejesus christ is a liar and we are all our own godswho the fuck would worship a shit on the floor.
>>535672950>Usury in capitalist society is one parasite (the banker) taking money from another parasite (the capitalist) who ultimately steal that wealth from the workers they steal from.Funny that this pretty much sums up Marx's life. A jobless parasite relying on his parents and Engels. >Americans dont understand MarxMarx himself doesn't understand himself. Literally nobody can give you a true logical explanation of Dialectical Materialism (y'know, the babble that Marxist leaders have used to kill millions of people).
>>535672950>meme flagShalom rabbi
>>535672950Imagine seeing communism fail repeatedly throughout the 20th century and still being retarded enough to believe in it.The Chinese suffered for 40 years under Mao's retardation, 70 million of them died from a famine he created with his centralized farming schemes. Then they abandoned communism and now they're a world power. Your theory failed, spectacularly. Even Marx would have abandoned it by now, the thesis failed, a new synthesis is in order that's what the dialectic tells you. If you still believe in Marxism then you don't understand Marxism.
>>535673243>immediately goes feral when jews are brought upConfirmed Israeli shill like all communist supporters, because they know communism will destroy the west just like it did in the east
>>535675833You're peak dunning Kruger jesus fucking Christ.
>Aristotle said 2000 years ago usury is unjustifiable as money does not produce money, so its purely theft of productive works of labor.true but the system they set up helps smart and rich people take advantage of poor and stupid people so who do you expect to change it?
>>535673243Marx was a kike lmao.
>>535672950Loans involve risk and cost of opportunity. Pay up that interest you free loading cunt.
>>535685097>you are over here picking on bums with maggots eating their feet on their way out anyway>Muh mom and pop's mop shop!Your reading comprehension is poor, but you are hilariously unhinged. Keep posting.
>>535685919>Pay up that interest you free loading cunt.The interest is freeloading dumbass.
>>535686018>The interest is freeloading dumbass.Just out of curiosity, how do you feel about the concept of profit in general?
>>535672950>commie gibberish>debate meNo anon, I don't think I will. Communism has failed every social experiment it has been subjected to, while capitalism continues to thrive. The worker produces nothing of value in a capitalist society, he is merely one contributor in a vast army of contributors. No single worker can take credit for the creation of any given product. They are all a part of a greater system, each one tasked with performing their part with flawless execution.You'd know this if you'd read Adam Smith instead of browsing whatever intellectually bankrupt blog you're drawing your asinine conclusions from.
>>535672950communism is just government for athiest midwits all shall bow to superior theocracy, numb nuts
>>535672950>Aristotle said 2000 years ago usury is unjustifiable as money does not produce moneyso what if he said that? he was wrong, like he was wrong about most things.>you can rent whatever you need and is for rent. but not money. you cannot rent money because I say so/because we have a different word for it than 'renting'.
>>535672950>completely skips Christianity which literally calls usury a sin in the Bible and was enforced by the Church for over a thousand years before dumb kike marx regurgitated Christian values without Jesus go to church dummy
>>535686227rhetoric is cool but i agree aristotle was the virgin observer while socrates was the chad eternal knower
>>535686018Did you somehow miss the "risK" and "cost of opportunity" you selective reading retard?
>>535686227but also usury is made up shit like interestall fake shit is gay so he's right there
>>535686096>Just out of curiosity, how do you feel about the concept of profit in general?Depends how the pie is split and off whose back. Which is why I will circle back to the idea of "freeloading" One set of people are getting fucked, while the other gets to eat and fuck babies on private islands, and it raeli is that simple. Let's focus on the dying crack nigger trying to redeem a foodstamp instead though, because raesons. Things such as speculation and government fuckery are immensely profitable, but deleterious socially. Are the profits just an extraction effort by a handful of financial termites or are they a result of a success business that isn't an antisocial cancer? Bottom line is that is called work even according to classical economists, but what sometimes isn't clear is who gets the lion's share of the benefits.
The only reason communism is even a thing is because jews read the old testament and saw the line that God creates all kings good and bad. They thought God wouldnt be able to meddle in their nations if they removed the king system. Communism is just more jewish rebellion against God.
>>535686616based n real
>>535686386They risk nothing dumbass. They get bailed out and how the modern banking system works they don't draw from existing accounts they literally just make the shit up on the spot. It's a big scam and we're the suckers.
>>535686794Retard.>retard borrows money from bank>retard wastes it on trivial things that don't generate profit>retard can't pay it back>bank demands the state pays up the retard's dues since the state gets free money from the retard so it owes the bank>"hurr they get bailed it's literally a scam durr"I agree that maybe banks shouldn't give out as many loans as they do but they're borderline forced by the state because stupid retards demand owning things they can't afford.
>>535672950The goy is already full on kabbalistic and talmudist sects and bullshit, it don't need more, memeflag
marx is the unchallenged king of arriving at the correct conclusion with entirely wrong reasoning
>>535686992you have absolutely no idea how the modern financial system works, do you?
