>kiev tonightIsn't NATO suppose to be a defensive alliance, what happened?
We just give them the money then walk away. Zelboys wife probably spent it already
>>535693516Do Russians really think Ukraine is a part of NATO?That's some heavy duty misinformation by your propaganda officials. Well done.
>>535693516Ukraine is not in NATO, yet, but it will be after you lose, which won't be much longer now looking at how shitty your frontlne situation is
>>535693516aren't you supposed to be in the front lines? why are you posting in internet
>>535693582future is looking grim m8
Never forgetti that to take down Russia all we had to do was freeze their own money then give the interest of their frozen assets to Ukraine and let them buy better western technology with it that is superior to slavshit russian technology.
Alright, which ziggerian oil refinery got annihilated this time?
Never forgetti everyday the Russian economy is squeezing itself more and more >Negative Growth: Real GDP contracted in the first quarter of 2026, marking Russia's first quarterly economic shrinkage in three years.>Skyrocketing Deficit: The federal budget deficit reached approximately $79 billion (2.5% of GDP) in the first four months of 2026, already overshooting the government's target by 62%.>Unsustainable Debt: Russia is funding its military-industrial complex by heavily issuing high-interest local bonds (OFZs). Interest rates on these bonds have soared to 15–16%, leading to massive, multi-generational debt servicing costs.>Hyper-Militarisation: Defense and domestic security spending has ballooned to consume roughly 40% of the entire federal budget. This heavy focus on military hardware burns valuable economic resources without producing consumer goods, choking the civilian market.>energy prices going up>food prices going up>18% interest rates>5% inflation on paper 15% in real world terms>social cuts everywhere>companies/private citizens can't pay back loans>citizens starting to keep their money under their pillows rather than in the banks>oil companies keep getting blown up a huge portion of their economy
>>535693830>muh economyok jewtotal hohol deathtotal euroid death
>>535693663I cant believe the charade continues desuOur politicians are some of the most gullible pos on earth, but the people that support what is going on are the bad players in all this. Fuck them first
>>535693906>Approximately 1.3 million to 1.5 million Russian speakers live in Israel today. They make up roughly 15% of the total population.
>>535693582DUDE KIEV GOT NUKED LMAO BIG BOMB GO BOOM LOLOL>no one talking about WHAT got bombed and why
Russia has lost so many soldiers, I could see putin saying something like "you have 30 days to surrender or we will use nooks"
>>535694045What they do is up prison time for certain offensives>crashed your car whilst drink driving?>10 years in prison!>do 6 months in the war and you'll get out early bro
>>535693933all ukraine bonds and stocks are in EU, they don't want them to go to 0
>jeet pidor seethingkekaroo
why do ruskis kill themselves so much
>>535693609>Do Russians really think Ukraine is a part of NATO? I highly suspect some unironically do, as some believed Finland and Sweden were a part of NATO back in 00s.I traveled Russia quite extensively up to like 2013 or something because of work, and most of the peasants literally thought I was a NATO spy and that pretty much everything west of Russia was part of NATO. After the Georgian crisis even the Russian engineers (younger, and somewhat educated compared to your common Russian) we sometimes had in Finland thought they would be monitored constantly by Finnish NATO troops.You literally cannot comprehend the NATO fear and delusion these people have until you experience it yourself.It's fucking surreal.
>>535693516> FAFOI don't know. Maybe droning a college full of kids was a shitty thing to do and they deserve everything they get?
>>535694456Because death is preferable to living in Russia as a cripple. Or just living in Russia.
Your mom had quite a bit of vodka while carrying you to term, that's what happened.
have redditors realized yet that donating to ukraine is simply paying for one of their own's one-way ticket to death? wonder when they will figure it out?
>>535693516>defensive alliance>for oinkraineNigger, we are here for minerals, agriculture, usury and real estate.
>>535693516>Isn't NATO suppose to be a defensive alliance, what happened?Ukraine is not in NATO.
>ziggers on /pol/ are only ones left basedfacing over memereshnikgrim, massacre of Russian logistics will continue
Ukies killed children of zigger elites training to be drone operators so Monke had to chimp out
>>535693516NAFO air defence is shit, of cource they cant interecept missiles in physical reality
>>535695444Checked. I love the naive assumptions vs harsh reality meme.
>>535693516I'm on Russia's side but I don't understand why they're super butthurt about Ukraine striking a drone operator training facility. That seems like a legitimate and high priority target and I'm sure Ukraine has had a lot of theirs hit
>>535694045>p-pls surrender
>>535693961So, your saying it's the kikes? Always been the kikes? Always will be the kikes? Like the kikes in Kiev too?Heil Hitler
>>535693685So half a trillion dollars in interest off of 200 billion? WowRussians are great investors
k is absolutely maldingdenazification of kiev is glorious
>>535696024Try beat it when you're sanctioned
>>535693516There’s something KINO in bombing cities during twilight/dawn.It’s like a juxtaposition of peaceful sky and violence in earth.
>>535696321The golden bombing hour
>>535693516>wasting $300m to just injure 50 peopleyou suck at this lol
>APT>Advanced persistent threatCoincidence? I think not.
>>535693830These are all either outright lies or show the Russian economy is performing better than the britbong one.
>>535693609>>535693624>>535694620It's pointless to try and refute propaganda created as a result of a three-pronged propaganda mechanism made up of Soviet, Russian imperial and Russian orthodox propaganda. Three worst types of propaganda in Europe that indoctrinated entire families along multiple generations. Your flags know this best.
>>535693516They meant invasive alliance>>535693933>Politicians>GullibleYou're the gullible one, they are devil worshippers who sacrifice you like cattle. That includes Russian and Ukranian politicians alike, but I don't give a fuck about them.
>>535693609Yes NATO is sending weapons shipment, intelligence, troops and targeting guidance.With that logic Poland, Germany, Baltoid pretty much whoever is aiding Ukraine should be bombed now.Like what Iran did with the Arabs
>>535697082No, the Arab states hosted infrastructure from which attacks and defensive actions were taken. Poland isn't using its AAD to protect Ukraine and neither is Ukraine launching strikes from the aforementioned states.
>>535693516Why NATO would protect a russian asset?
>>535696965shut up nazi croat. when russians come your shithole again youll break out the yugoflags to pretend u dindu nuffins
>>535693516Damn, that means russians are good at killing civillians just as good as Israel.
>>535693516Ukraine isn't in NATO, that was your pretense for invading them wasn't it? that they were trying to join?not to mention the only reason you could invade them, because it wouldn't trigger article V.We had to give them aid because of the Budapest Memorandum, but that agreement didn't constitute a military response only that we'd help them maintain their territorial integrity. Russia of course just ouright renegged on it.cause the biggest country on Earth NEEDS MORE LANDSeriously, you niggers can't even manage the land you have but you're always clawing for more.
>Russia decimates Kiev>All the anti Russian people on pol come out to complain about it>Seethe right on cue music to my ears
>>535693516PATRIOTS STATUS???kek, what a piece of shit that thing is
>>535697574We kicked them out in 1945, they left their bones here in the 90s too. Nobody here is scared of Russia.
>>535693516Holy shit imagine Oreshnik kino on every European capital. The nuclear version
those chimpouts become more and more pathetic and inconsequential with each time they happen desu. Tomorrow your commieblock in moscow gets droned as a revenge and you suddenly start crying about evil wectern nazis supporting kiev junta - you're stuck in irl groundhog day lol
>>535698292>actuallylol
>>535693516NATO is not involved in this conflict, you are losing against a former province of the Soviet union. More Russians dying from AIDS than Ukrainians from your broke ass missiles and licensed Persian drones.
>>535693516>what happened?Just another war crime committed by the Russians. Picrel.
Why do russians act so smug when bombing civilians but also cry like a little bitch when they get hit?
>>535695571Do you have the untranslated version? I want to test if my chink AI can produce a less gibberish translation.
>>535698404Keep coping, little pidor. The front line is waiting for you.
>>535698580Russians are spiritually and mentally jewish. They can dish it out but not take it. Much like the Americunts.
>>535697574T. James Simonovich from Ohio Oblast
>>535700432Finns accusing USA flags of being Rus-bots constantly here, Finns are in peak butt-hurt mode to think USA flags give a fuck about fighting Russia, only you butthurt belters care, do you think we give a shit if Finland or Polakoland becomes Russian?
>>535697082Oh, well - at some point of time, I think about 2 months into the 3 day SMO, the Uke's discovered that Russian tanks were using some walves for the hydraulics made here (danfoss) so they accused us of aiding the Russian aggression. The whole thing was forgotten pretty quick though, as those valves are off-the-shelf items that can be used for a bunch of stuff. So, are we allied of Russia because they put Danish made mechanical stuff in their tanks?
>>535693516you forget background music for this threadhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWM59pDlUUs
>>535699855>Russians are spiritually and mentally jewishLmao. You need to lower your expectations by a factor of 5 to 7. Picrel.
>>535694045>we will use nooksA great way to have Japan build theirs and have half of the EU build theirs too.It opens pandoras box of weapons development. This already happened with China.https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Ygmr8BjUurk
>>535693516> NATO fails in UkraineUkraine is not a NATO member.
>>535699855>>535701089I think the attached pic is the best illustration of what or who the Russians are.
>>535700432>>535700951It's because the Finns know how Russia operates. It's 100% true. You think countries that had to deal with Russian hostility for longer than half the time your country exists can't tell lol both Russia and Serbia have invested heavily into their useful idiots in the US.
>>535693516Kill the hobbit
>>535702806Bosnia was literally created 30 years ago nigger, don't talk about how old nations are, fucking albanian-Turk muslim bastard
>>535693516Holy shit. Russian won. Sorry for laughing at you I was disinformed.
>>535703203Mutt education at its finest. Bosnia was a European kingdom when your country's entire continent was still undiscovered. Perhaps you're one of those orthodox US shills doing the dirty ziggering.
>>535693516Underwhelming monke chimpout with 4 dead (let's pretend it's actually 50 to avoid a dumb reply), but keep trying to milk it to get your money's worth.
>>535693516NATO goes back home on the weekends.
>>535693516Moscow will get same treatment probably tomorrow if even not today....happy?
>>5356936242 more weeks
>>535693609russians have mongoloid shaped heads. They don't think mongoloidicly for nothing.
>>535693516When i saw Russian troops embarking a transport plane in 2022 wearing no masks, i realized Putin was probably in the correct side of history.
>>535693516Russians bombing kids again
>>535703362>Bosnia was a European kingdomCool story, now you are just a bunch of turk muslim faggots, fucking muhammedian loses. You think your ancestors look kindly upon you traitors of Christ? Go pray to the black cube in Mecca, stick your ass high up in the air so Muhammad can smell your dirty asshole
>>535693961Damn nice, so you are saying Russians successfully got most of the kikes out of their country? How do we do this?
>>535693516Ukraine is in NATO now?
posting some more vids from the strike
>>535698463>crying gazan holding dead baby.jpg
>>535693516NATO is a paper tiger. Civilians in NATO countries are being demographically replaced and no one wants to fight for their economic zones anymore. Europe has little industry and can't produce sufficient armament. They took the impulsive and unanimous stance of supporting the Ukraine and in doing so sent billions of dollars, whatever equipment they had, and essentially gave hohols a pat on the back and told good luck. Now hohols have been getting their shit pushed in and wondering where all their support went.Like Kissinger said>It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal
>>535703905I'm a Croat you mongoloid, but Bosnia is my homeland. Guess both you and that other retard are orthodogs hiding behind the star spangled banner.
So now that usa is obviously 100% not able to supply anyone with air defence missiles, how should russia, china and iran take advantage of this fact?
>>535693516You really think NATO fighting against Russia right now? kek, keep coping and get that loan for IKEA sofa.>>535697082Shut up retard, stay mad and import more shitskins if you can't prosper from this conflict like us. War is business.
>>535697937
>>535704291>You really think NATO fighting against Russia right nowWait, so you're saying NATO abandoned the Ukraine when they told them they would help them? What kind of ally is that?
>>535693906>total hohol deathI understand that, because you lads want "Khazaria" back, but Ukrainians are in the way. You tried to exterminate them via the Bolsheviks you created and controlled but failed back then despite killing millions - though it's going much better for you this time.>total euroid deathI don't understand this. Euroids are literally the only reason you exist. Remove them and your monopoly on victimhood evaporates overnight.
reminder that this was triggered ONLY because hohlonatoniggers droned dormitory with teenage girls yesterday in Luhansk.Russia is extremely soft on Ukraine
>>535704392>You tried to exterminate them via the BolsheviksBolsheviks created Ukraine as we know it. Butthurt Belters owe their existence, freedom, and independence to the commies they hate.
>>535704291NATO admitted itYou are just a faggot shill playing word gamesHow many satallites does ukraine have again?>https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us-provide-ukraine-with-intelligence-missile-strikes-deep-inside-russia-wsj-2025-10-01/
>>535695748Lel this one's my favourite
>>535704168This fake socialist jew opened up socialist China for free markets while allowing it a non free political system. My father after the turkish cyprus invasion had promised to treat the whole local cafeteria drinks when he would die.
>>535704630fake jew socialist*
>>535704183>I'm a Croat you mongoloidThe aryan-ubersoldiers of Hitler lol, fucking gypsy retard
The best defense is a good offense or something whatever yadda yadda kill all jews.
An ukranian military sea drone with explosives was found in Greece some days ago. Should we invoke arcticle 5 against Ukraine?
>>535704497>Soft on UkraineIs this why Ukraine still is able to sell Fertilizer/Grain and keep the lights on in its major cities when that alone would've made it easier to roll the Ukrainian lines up. Not to mention where's the air power?
>>535694456did 11 just slit his own throat?? wtf dude
>>535704165>muh fake Feel free to go complain to the instances shown in the screenshot. They document Russian war crimes.
>>535693516NATO only shows up to fight niggers and rape negresses and to suck muslim dicks.
>>535704543>Bolsheviks created Ukraine as we know it.Correct, but not with the intention of allowing the people that were there, to stay there...
>>535696239Oil revinue has doubled for Russia.I thought you faggots said they were a gas station disguised as a country?Pipeline exports are up 20%Sanctions goneEat shit troon, your master thinks he can kill schoolkids for fun while snorting cocaineReminder of why they struck>The latest footage resembles videos that circulated in January, when Russia used the Oreshnik system in a strike on a Ukrainian aviation plant in Lviv that was repairing and servicing warplanes and producing long-range drones.>The reported strike came after Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered the Defense Ministry to “submit proposals” for a response to a Ukrainian drone attack on a school dormitory in the Lugansk People’s Republic, which left 21 people, mostly children, dead and 42 injured
>>535704898So they can see warcrimes in ukraine from NYC?
>>535704497I was hoping they hit the cocaine sex bunkers under the government center.Guess Russia was thinking of the children in cages down there.
>>535693516congrats. probably spent the annual salary of 99% of Russia in bombs and missiles to blow up some buildings of little consequence.surely Ukraine will now realize Russia is mighty bear and surrender, right?or maybe they'll just nuke more of your oil and continue blicking your FSB outposts.
>>535705299The copeYou can tell shills havent got decent talking points from thier handlers yet
>>535705005Russia's GDP is comparable to Canada, Italy, Brazil, and Spain individually.
>>535706242Importing millions of niggers and giving them free everything is great for GDP.But not really good for taxpayers
>>535693516just kill Zelensky or Putin ffsthis gay ass nigger war
>>535705050>So they can see warcrimes in ukraine from NYC?
>>535706437Its funny you dont here anything about the "missing kids" since everyone realized Zelensky made the whole story up.
>>535693609Russians are retards.
>>535706338That doesn't even make any coherent sense,my point is Russia has a tiny GDP just like the rest of these shitty countries,
>>535703362>muh ancient kingdomYet Americans went to the moon, have 10k planes, 12 aircraft carriers and were or are a global superpower.
>>535693663rofl , 5 months later the UK removes sanctions on some russian oil instead
>>535706400This isn't going to work in Russia (it achieves absolutely nothing), because the population is now exposed to 24/7 propaganda - just like vid-rel.
>>535706578https://theconversation.com/ukraines-stolen-children-expose-the-lies-at-the-heart-of-russias-four-year-military-assault-278576here's one may 15th https://intpolicydigest.org/inside-the-legal-battle-over-ukraine-s-stolen-children/
>>535706658What doesnt make sense retard faggot?When you give healthcare, education, food, and housing to migrants that ALL adds to GDP.How are you discussing this if you dont even know what GDP is?
>>535706578>missing kidsExactly, that is another Russian war crime: the abduction of Ukrainian children and their re-education as terrorists. Vid-rel.
>>535706784Now skip down to the source>Zelensky said soZERO other sourcesFaggot shill160 of the kids he claimed were stolen were found in Germany.
>>535706859Proven to have never happened faggotZelensky could only name 320160 of whom were found in Germany
>>535706960>ProvenLmao.
NATOHahaYou funny
>>535706814You think Russia isn't importing 3 worlders too ? you are trying to divert attention from the fact Russia's economy is tiny. You had a lot of equipment from the USSR, now it's all blown up for the most part.
>>535693516Since your generals lied about how it's been going on the frontlines and the embarrassing attack over Moscow I hope you enjoy the third symbolic showcase of the Oreshnik. You really showed the Zelensky regime and NATO who's da man. Just remember if you see black rain, don't go outside, it's carcinogenic.
>>535706904>>535706960International Criminal Court (ICC) - In March 2023, the ICC issued arrest warrants for Russian President Vladimir Putin and Children's Rights Commissioner Maria Lvova-Belova for the war crimes of unlawful deportation and unlawful transfer of Ukrainian children from occupied areas to Russia. The Court alleges children were forcibly removed after parents were arrested, killed, or separated in the conflict, and placed into Russian foster care, adoption programs, or "summer camp" programs.Yale School of Public Health Humanitarian Research Lab - Released a report documenting evidence of Russia's systematic program of coerced deportation and naturalization, identifying 314 individual Ukrainian children transferred for coerced adoption and fostering.UN Commission of Inquiry - Verified the deportation and transfer of 1,205 children from Russian-occupied areas in Ukraine to Russia or other occupied areas.Other sources include Ukrainian authorities, the EU, OSCE, and independent investigators who have all documented these transfers.
>>535707250Russia imports people on work visas who have jobs waiting for them.Are you pretending Russia is famous for giving everyone free shit?You are a disgusting faggot that lies without shame
Russian officials have publicly acknowledged that children from Ukrainian territories under Russian control are being moved to Russia, but they frame this differently: They describe the transfers as "evacuations" or "protective relocations" intended to safeguard minors from the war They claim the policy aims to reunite children with relatives and provide humanitarian protection President Putin has reinforced this narrative, insisting children are being rescued and given a better future in Russia Russia rejects accusations of forced deportation or criminal intent, portraying the policy as humanitarian rather than a violation of international law
>>535707511EVERY source is ukraine security services said soZero independant sourcesYou are a lying troon
>>535707537That's called projection, and you are still avoiding the truth of how pathetically small Russia's economy actually is, you are no longer a Superpower.
>>535707573YesThe rescued a few hundred orphans Zelensky purposly kicked out into the streets when he closed the orphanages on day one of the invasion. They made no attempt to evacuate them hoping they would be killed in the shelling for photo ops
>>535693624ukraine is absolute fucked as a nation. it will never recover from this war ever
>>535707969Meh... it's had worse, if you anything about history.
>>535708275>had worseSure, when it was part of the Soviet Union or the Russian Empire. Now it's alone and its "allies" have loansharked it into an impossible situation.
>>535706679Can't downplay facts I wrote in a reply to him and that is that Bosnia was a kingdom before the continent of America was even discovered. I wouldn't even be bringing it up if he wasn't kvetching mad shit.
>>535707902It's kind of hilarious how ukraine fans post stuff like this about the evils of russian culture, forgetting that ukraines culture is practically indistinguishable from russian culture and until recently they were seen as one culture.
>>535693582>ZelboyGood one
>>535693516Ai nice try HIVan kyiv just reported they shot down 999 out of 1000 missiles
>>535704672Kvetch all you want muttoid Russlansky. By the way, you see that blade in the hand of our ban Jelačić? That is a Zulfikar. Granted it was a gift from the Serb convert Ottoman officer Omer Paša Latas.
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>>535708275ukraine has never been worse off than it is now. its absolutely nigger fucked as a nation and will never recover from killing off its male population to lose a war it never had any chance of winning in the first place
>>535707969The Russian Federation is going to go belly up and Balkanize the moment Gollum kicks the bucket. They'll have a 5th, 6th whateverthefuckth Chechen war on their hands and the gooks will carve out Siberia.
>>535710292this will never happen ever, and ukraine will be a shattered hell hole forever as a result
>>535709232Damn really?Ruskies should learn how to win faster, because we are on year FIVE of their three day war
>ru flag>retarded, sadistic and/or dishonest
>>535710679Oh it will happen. No Slavic state as big and as diverse as that, built around a cult of personality, can survive the death of said personality. Ukraine is fucked and will require a long, long time to recover, but Russia will Balkanize because the part of Ukraine that could Balkanize has already been annexed away.
>>535693516>Isn't NATO suppose to be a defensive allianceFor its members. Ukraine isn't a member.The fact NATO intervened in Bosnia, Yugoslavia, and Libya is enough to say it's an illegitimate organization.
>>535707969Millions of Africans and jeets will save Ukraine.
Why don't you do that in the donbas?
>>535693516Ukraine is not a member
>>535693516B-bozhe moi.. 2 more weeks and the neo-nazi junta will collapse! THE BROWS HAVE BEEN RAISED!!!!FROM VOLGOGRAD TO THE BLACK SEA, KHAZARIA WILL BE FREE!! Z!! ZLAVA IZRAILA!!!!
>>535696838>they're outright liesprove it>>535703908nope, russians moved to israel so they can be funded by your taxes lel
>>535696838Russia has 1% growth and here in Bongland we have 0.6% growth.Goggle it and then kill yourself.
>>535698463I'm not saying I'm happy about what's happening (I think the whole war is fucking retarded and Russia is going to pay a stupidly heavy price over the next generation, not to mention that the Ukraine has lost a generation and a half of its young men and is about to become jewed beyond belief with third world immigration as part of the Greater Israel project; neither outcome is desirable and the whole thing is just retardation at this point). Still, just last week ukiefaggots were proudly talking about how they hit Moscow with drone attacks or some shit. Turnabout is fair play.
>>535703383once again the somalian flag speaks. figures that a nigger from africa would assume the weapon's use was intended to kill civilians
>>535712265>year 5 of ukraines irrecoverable rape>>5357127258 million deaths in WW2 and Russia didnt balkanize it expandedlmao good luck with ukraines "balkanize Russia" strategy tho
>>535693516Do it to Sweeden or Finland.
>>535693754Annihilated like your bussy
>>535693754>Alright, which ziggerian oil refinery got annihilated this time?only 15 or 16 more refinery fires and surely Russia will balkanize this time!
>>535709232>Germs murder-rape their way across it in 1941>Russians murder-rape their way back across it in 43, conscripting all remaining meat as they go>A war where the invader can’t even cross the Dnieper is more damaging because… well it just is, okay!
Now the globohomo shills are just sliding these threads
Bimp
>>535718442>hurrrrrrrrr Russias goals in 2026 are the same as the 1940s!!! nato wins!! flawless victory!you faggot 'ukraine is winning' niggers need beaten with clubs
>>535693609Yes, they need to believe this, because otherwise they can't explain to their own population why they can't take Ukraine despite being there for 4 years already.
>>535693516Ox cart full of shit–tier thinking for us all to witness...
>>535716260Russia can barely produce these missiles to bomb Ukraine once in two months.
>>535722738And exactly how did some random retarded faggot like you discover this top secret information?
>>535723187It's obvious. But also Russian elite is a bunch of kikes they will sell any kind of information to the CIA.
>>535693609do you really believe the published headlines that are crafted for npc audiences when even half of them know it's just pc/legal language?is that the level your mentality is locked at? really? because if so, you're pre-cooked nord nigger, it's looking really bad for you kekthere was a time when i believed it cruel to laugh at idiots like you
>>535695877none of these niggers watched the hearings pre invasion of all the democrat jews grilling dod members for wanting to supply avowed naziswatch those, hearings with people at the time like rose from ny being a notable one, you can see how they fake their anger over nazis, and then essentially just weeks later, they are all in on helping them/pol/ retards missed that whole sequence, probably making neo-reddit threads and generals about ecelebs or trumpstein
>>535693663Kek, the present is looking grim and we all know it only gets worse
I would truly love to know what the average ukrainain thinks is a legitimately achievable goal 5 years into this war...like what does the ukraine ACTUALLY think is going to happen now..?ukrainians cant seriously believe they will ever reconquor the 1991 borders...do they?surely...ukrainians dont still believe dogshit like the big 'crimean beach party' are just an offensive or 2 away...what is (seriously) ukraines 'win condition'? what do they think the end of this war looks like for them?>"the death of Putin!">"the collapse of "Putins regime!"Russia is never going to "just go away!" its not going to happen. not ever..what do 'ukro-nationalists' think the end of this war will be?nato utterly expended itself..it has nothing left to send, no wunderwaffe, no magic weapons, no alien tech nothing... if anything nato itself has no answer to simple fucking drones....so how could they possibly have some grand-strategy for 'defeating Russia' on Russian soil? I am completely lost as to what ukraine/nato realistically hopes to achieve..they cant seriously believe they will instigate a coup in Russia still.. do they....?
>>535693639Unlike jewkrain russia is fighting a border skirmish, so they don't need to stress their populace.
>>535724859>quiet, a ledditor is typing
