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they're preparing for war with Russia,what about you?
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>>535748244
Cant wait
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I hope the EU will one day stop being the US' slave
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is russia even going to last that long? i feel like putin isn't going to make it another 4 years and without him russia basically collapses?
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>>535748694
the ukraine war will last until 2032, then they may consider ending the war or another 4 year extension.
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>>535748244
Russia can't even get a few km of land for 5 years now, I don't think Europe has to prepare for anything.
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I can't decide whether it's pure "distract from internal discontent by focusing on an external enemy" propaganda, or whether they're seriously trying to start WW3 to stave off economic collapse. Either way the notion that Russia is planning on waging a war of aggression against the EU / NATO is absurd
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>>535748694
vietnam war lasted 8 years and you lost it. It's 5th year and we're going to win it.
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>>535748798
>distracting
they're preparing for war you silly fuck, they don't care what happens to their people.
This is why it became taboo in EU to express even a neutral opinion.
Russia is doing everything in its power to prevent wider war in Europe.
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>>535748761
This desu. Nato has so many blocks that are on par with Russia. Ukraine is the poorest country of Europe with 40 million people. Nato has a billion people and the most developed nations on the planet. What are we even talking about.
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>>535748843
russia is taking the causalities of the entire Vietnam war every few months
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>>535748952
*casualties
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>>535748244
THE WAR TO END ALL GOYS
i just hope some goy gets a nuke off at Tel Aviv before this shit goes down
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>>535748244
Born ready.
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>>535748244
The Byzantines will defeat the franks, and conquer Constantinople without any bloodshed.
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The EU wont even be majority white by then.
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>>535748921
Where does NATO have a billion people?
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>>535748661
where the fuck is the revolution spirit?
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>>535749228
>535749228
due to technological advancements rapidly increasing warfare, we will have cloning by the first 6th months of WW3
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>>535749228
Europe has around 500 million people.
Turkey has around 86 million people.
Canada has around 41 million people
USA has around 340 million people.

https://countryeconomy.com/countries/groups/nato
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>>535749546
This would not be like the Ukraine war.
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yeah but average russian man kills 50 europoors with his bare hands. the only sucessful front will be the Caucuses. Big stronk Georgians and Turks can kill 200 russian soilders with bare hands.
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>>535749546
now do the armies
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>>535748244
I'm moving to Fiji.
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>>535748244
those muslims are going to fuck you up when 2030 comes
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>>535749653
I'm pretty sure Russians are currently send to the front with barely any equipment or training.
Meanwhile every other country has not drained its professional army.

Nuclear deterrent is currently Russia's only lifeline.
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When the fuck will we finally abolish our militaries completely? It should he illegal for any EU country to have an army.
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>>535749727
it's crazy the prostitute trans country (thailand) has 4x the forces of the average europoor military.
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>>535749967
Might have something to do with the fact that the country is controlled by a military junta that coups the parliament every 15 years or so.
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>>535748244
Someone has to carry out the final solution on the puccian problem
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The war is going well comrad-ACK
>Russia is facing a severe demographic crisis, with its national birth rates plunging to historic, multi-century lows. Demographers estimate that birth volumes recorded in early 2025 and 2026 represent the lowest numbers of newborns the country has seen since the late 18th or early 19th century.
>Total Fertility Rate (TFR): The national fertility rate sits at 1.37 to 1.41 children per woman, dropping significantly from 1.51 in 2021. This remains drastically below the 2.1 population replacement threshold.
>>535749727
>now do the armies
>he thinks we also can't give people 1 week of training and consider them soldiers like russia does
leeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel
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>>535750182
Our professional military wants to grow to 200k people.
And every male and female from 17 to 45 can get drafted here. But traditionally only the 17 year olds are fucked and the rest is left alone (like in our war with Indonesia and during the cold war). Which are an additional 200k people.

So realistically in case of a war we would prepare around 300k soldiers. While we're a pretty small country with 18 million people.
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>>535749786
>I'm pretty sure Russians are currently send to the front with barely any equipment or training.
They're fighting with shovels
I've heard they're out of ammunition and tanks
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>putin will attack us, if we dont support ukraine with dances
>putin will attack us, if we dont support ukraine with a few thousand helmets
>putin will attack us, if we dont support ukraine with medical equipment
>putin will attack us, if we dont support ukraine with military equipment
>putin will attack us, if we dont send billions of euros
>putin will attack us, if we dont strengthen our armies
We are here.
>putin will attack us, if we dont sacrifice our sportsball
It seems to me, that our leaders do in fact not want anything nice for us.
This timeline, frens.
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>>535748244
2 decade special operation time. Prepare your anuses goyim.
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>>535750324
G8 b8 m8
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>>535750306
It's like that scene in "300" where the guy asks you only brought a handful of soldiers and he asks them their professions and ends up saying
>i brought my soldiers than you did
Russians un ironically think their huge army consists of highly trained individuals when it's mostly padded out with short term meat.
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>>535750324
Out of all the combat clips I've seen they're always killing eachother with knives like fucking apes instead of shooting each other. They should nuke ukraine atp since that's the only weapon they have left.
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Set off in winter, do it
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>>535748244
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xthzy1PxTA
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>>535748899
>Russia is doing everything in its power to prevent wider war in Europe
By acting like last century niggers and trying to seize land for no real cause?
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So they'll have enough white men bussified and replaced with sandniggers that will rape their women and children at home by then?
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>>535750625
>affect you personally
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>>535748244
Lol why? What happened to peace and love? Why is the EU bloodthirsty?
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>>535749786
No joke, it's the responsibility of the division a Russian conscript is deployed to, to train him. While in combat.
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>>535748244
Ofcourse we're preparing for a war with you. You keep attacking bordering countries.
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>>535748244
Who is they? The migrants they import?
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>>535748244
Eurosissies can't do shit, yet another excuse to hand out yet another gorillion euros to the '''right''' people while Putin grinding Ukrainian population without lifting a finger
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>>535750753
>lets make more neighboring countries part of our death cult
>reeee soyuz is acting on opposition to our advances
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>>535748244
Not a Balt or a pooplack, not my problem.
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>>535748244
idk, i imagine all the politicians and their families charging Russia 14th century style.

"blz russia, wait 3 years so we attack you".
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>>535750984
these niggas are going to be drafting
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>>535748694
Russia will attack and seize one or more of the Baltic states this year and the EU will send a strongly worded letter before going back to doing business with them.
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>>535748244
why tho? did you invade poland again?
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>>535748761
Russia has no intention of going to war with anyone in the near term (<20 years) besides Ukraine and the Baltics. The Germans, French, Brits, etc all know it so this is all empty posturing to fund the defense spending grift. In Ukraine they're unlikely to make much more progress but they can manage to seize the Baltics and sell that as a win back home at least,
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>>535751029
>make
nobody was made to do anything retard
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>>535748899
>Russia is doing everything in its power to prevent wider war in Europe.
by starting a series of wars in Europe? you could just not attack anybody and there would've been no war.
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>>535749546
>>535749727
where did you go.
Also don't count americans they're not coming
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>>535748244
you telling me that in the current state of russia they still need four whole years? that country is hobbling around with a broken knee, twisted ankle and a black eye
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>>535752160
Russia didn't start the war, we're ending it
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>>535748843
I know you have to say that but you don't actually think that. How fucking crazy is it to be taking 1k casualties a day and making less progress than trench warfare in WW1? Putin is a degenerate demon who doesn't value Russian lives in the slightest. In fact he might get off on killing your countrymen.
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>>535752340
Yea, you did start the war retard. Twice, in 2014 and 2022. Your propaganda about muh CIA coup and whatever else doesn't change that in the slightest. And you've managed to get completely humiliated in the process. Not a good look.
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>>535752394
>CSIS receives significant backing from major defense contractors (e.g., Northrop Grumman, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, RTX, General Atomics), as well as prominent technology, energy, and financial corporations (e.g., Amazon Web Services, Chevron, ExxonMobil, Microsoft).
hmmm
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>>535748244
I invest a lot into european arms industry, so I can sell it all before the war starts and leave forever.
Please EU, start preparing even more and make even more weapons. Thanks.
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>>535750530
>It's like that scene in "300"
burger brain
>>ids liek dat hollywood movie scene, you know, that one scene??
euros will get their shit pushed in
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>>535752124
>to be made
doesnt always mean coercion you esl nafotroon
but in this case you accidentally bettered my point
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>>535748244
Russia isn't even ready for war with Ukraine today.
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>>535748952
Life is cheap in russia. Loss of human life isn't even considered a loss there.
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Si vis pacem, para bellum. Russia is an aggressive neighbour and Europe is surrounded by evil nonhumans, it's good to be prepared.
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>>535748244
More like
>ready to attempt to kill as many whites as possible since they’re waking up.
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>>535748244
>war with russia
not my problem, tranny
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>>535752672
again
also anything but total nuclear annihilation in the first ten minutes would not have been war but populational culling alone. contemporary "war" requires no homo sapiens to estroy everything
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>>535752647
russia can glass ukraine right now if they wanted to

the amount of denial that westerners have about russians practicing restraint is hilarious
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the poolacks and other beltniggers should be fed to the meatgrinders for my freedumbs
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>>535748244
Nothing. Because we both know, you don't want to have this headache again.
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>>535752209
The Netherlands has 1600 American vehicles and tanks. And American nukes. Plus they can't make high end chips without us. Wouldn't be a problem if they left their equipment here.
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Are you ready to sacrifice yourself for Putin's fifth palace with golden toilets, Ivan?
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>>535750641
He accidentally told the truth. Wider war would be a disaster for russia. Goal is to start wars with single countries and hope it stays in that country because nobody in western Europe will start a war over insert country name here.
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>>535752732
>rusniggers lost hundreds of thousands of their piglets because they are practicing restraint
>rusniggers lost control of the territory they captured because they are practicing restraint
>rusniggers are fighting on donkeys because they are practicing restraint
Come on man.
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>>535752732
bump. westerners still pretend to count bodies
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>>535752895
year 5 of Russia waking up and the gloves coming off
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>>535752834
And we can pay for it. The Netherlands sits on 1800 billion in pension savings (60% of all the EU's savings). While Germany and France have nothing at all and fund it with tax payers money. If we slightly shift towards their model it frees up a near infinite amount of money.
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>>535748244
A bunch of pot noodle head gay boy teens against a trained army lol
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>>535752895
>rusniggers
show flag, amerikike larper Shlomo
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>>535752844
>golden toilets,
mountain jeety jew only interested in gold and shitting as usal
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>>535752895
>psychotic memeflag appears to correct the heccin record
okay very cool russians are powerless
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>>535750753
Get back on your fuckin skis and deal with it yourselves then snow faggot
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>>535748244
Thats a good thing in my opinion, we should be ready for war now but better 2030 than never, militarization of Europe needs to happen ASAP
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>>535753015
sneed
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>>535748244
I'm not killing white men under any circumstance.
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>>535748244
what for? ukies are doing good job!

>The strategic defeat of Russia has already happened. All you are currently seeing is an aftermath. Russia is like a rabid dog in a cage doing everything it can to get out, but alas, the dog will get neutered anyways. You look at them get 20x20 meter area a day (not even anymore, Russia is currently losing ground) and you think that Russia is totally winning. I see their military, economy, society collapsing in real time with numbers worse than late 80s and I say they are losing. You are a troon so you are used to denying reality, I am a man, that looks at the numbers and sees the future.
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>>535753134
>sneed
nice VPN, hohol pidor

and fuck off back to sosach
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>>535752834
why are you not answering my question?
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>>535752982
We can just take the money desu. Most pension funds have 130% to 140% coverage. If you take a 400 billion out to give to the Americans our current system would still not have to change.
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>>535753184
Pidorashka spok, back to MAX you go.
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>>535748244
HAHAHAHAHAH 2030, WHY DON'T THEY IMMEDIATELY CALL A DRAFT AND INVADE RUZZIA NEXT WEEK?
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>>535748244
Spoiler: They're not going to be ready. The German plan for the acquisition and construction of sufficient ammunition storage space has a target date of 2038. So the realistic completion window can be expected somewhere in the late 2040's or early 2050's. Public infrastructure projects take forever. Everyone wants a say, everyone wants a share of the loot and nobody has the authority or responsibility to deny it. Democracy with western characteristics.
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>>535748661
>>535748982
Russia is not important , and just pathethic obvious redirection
EU need strong army to get into aliance with China, and kick muricans out of "world leader" position
Without army, next trumpf would just treat eu like venesuela or cuba, and invade willy-nilly
If anything usa get into alliance with russia, and world will be spilt:
usa russia and usrael: first world
everybody else: second world

also aliums going to ban usage of nukes very soon, so that will not be a factor anymore
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>>535753270
your poдcтвeнник picrel, you kikey cocksucker?!!!
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>>535748661
>I hope the EU will one day stop being the US' slave
Two more weeks until the pro-European right awakens.
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>>535748661
I hope EU dies
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Why are Europeans here so happy to train for a war with Russia but just accept a shitton of immigrants with a shrug?
If I was western European, I'd happily train for a war with Russia but only if elites kicked out immigrants and reversed policies of like last 30 years. But right now you're energizing yourself for a war with Russia while elites step on your balls.
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>>535752732
>you're lucky I'm only using 5% of my power. otherwise your head would be in the toilet, not mine.
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Fuck around on Russia's borders and you find out
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>europeans spend billions buying arms from the US
>the retard Trump chimps out on the EU for... some reason?
>europe starts building their own arms industry
>Trumps starts melting down because he lost a customer and an ally
>amerigolems are being activated to shill on 4chan.org/pol
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>>535748244
EU might achieve what Hitler couldn't
Kill off every white person in Europe
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>>535754105
>Why are Europeans here so happy to train for a war with Russia
most "people" under western EU flags here are turks, nafris, analbanians and gypsies=romanians, they're not Euros, that's the thing
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>>535754109
It's in goymany that electricity prices have skyrocketed, not Russia lmao
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>>535754273
>It's in goymany that electricity prices have skyrocketed
No they didn't. They have always been this high.
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>>535748952
no way Ukraine is losing men 5-1 ratio with Russia
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>>535748244
I'm prepared to emigrate to an undisclosed location to avoid the inevitable nuclear holocaust.
after the fallout has settled and decayed, I'll emerge from my vault and impregnate as many women as possible.
I will seed humanity with my genes, and in 1000 years every living human will be related to me.
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The EU won't start a war, because most people are not willing to fight for it and they know it. For good reason, too.
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>>535748244
The EU is based on the values of the Talmud
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>>535754319
except when Schröder was Kanzler
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>>535754204
Should be held accountable and put in the first row to waste enemy's ammunition.
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>>535748244
I hope that by 2030 the war is over and Russia will be on negotiations to leave the old soviet ways behind and joins NATO and with that getting rid from it's image of evil military attacker and turn itself into an ally.
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>>535754109
>when you feel compelled to respond but don't know what to say
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>>535754518
If you browse /uhg/ you get the vibe that immigrants are not that bad and every white person wants a war with Russia, and if you disagree you'll get hit with 30 paragraphs that describe oral intake of Russian cum.
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>>535748244
In your best interest to pull your troops from Ukraine, stop trying to seize land and just glass it, so you can focus on doing the same with the rest of Europe. Nice of them to give you the heads up I guess.
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America and Europe are Edom and will be destroyed by Israel
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EU/Nato or whatever form it takes, we need armed forces capable of beeing a credible deterrent. We should never have ended up where we are now. Despite what the bots say, Russia is not friendly or predictable.
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>>535754319
You forgot
>Take that, Pootin!
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>>535748843
>It's 5th year and we're going to win it.
Do you really still believe this?
War is getting more and more automated each year and you can't even bomb the factories where Ukrainian drones are produced as they're just outside the country.
Meanwhile your industries can and are bombed every day and there's nowhere they can be transferred that would be safe.
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>>535748694
cope
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>>535754870
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>>535754273
my electricity price literally went down this year.
also I'm not poor so didn't feel any of this shit.
>>535754700
respond to what? russia losing?
you're the delusional retard coping with russia's supposed strength when they can't even beat the poorest, most corrupt shithole in Europe.
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>>535748244
Finns have been preparing for war with Russia since 1945. Doesn't mean we're the ones to start it, it's all up to Russia, but because of their unpredictable nature, we have to prepare. It's like carrying a bear mace while hiking. You're not intending to be a victim of a bear attack, you're taking precautions by preparing.
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>>535754870
.Edom is both Rome and its descendants: Italy, France, Norway, Spain, America, etc. It's the entire Western world.
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>>535748244
>Ready for war
Without oil it's going to be tough, they better stack up on unicorn fart.
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>>535755029
>Doesn't mean we're the ones to start it, it's all up to Russia,
USSR is not Russia, Vittulainen, Stalin wasn't Russian, he hated Russians wholeheartedly

not to mention that there were Russians and Finns on both sides in the Winter War
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>>535754879
Why is it always going up? Where was the supposed cheap Russians gas our entire country was supposedly running on?
Weird almost like it was never cheap and ziggers just make shit up as they open their pig mouths
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The faster everyone realizes that jews are the enemy of all mankind and need to be eradicated from this Earth the quicker the world can heal.
If we let jews live, everything will be destroyed.
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>>535755129
>Without oil
Europe is rich enough that it can outbid almost everyone else on the market.
Prices will go up but there won't be any shortages of anything in Europe.
It's the third world shitholes that are going to and partially already are getting hit by shortages though.
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>>535754826
>America and Europe are Edom and will be destroyed by Israel
The delusion is quite interesting to see. You kike can't even manage your tiny plot of land without the help of the civilized world, It's like a kid on a bicycle with training wheels thinking they are a Tour de France champion.
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>>535754879
>take that gayropa!
What's russia's excuse for the skyrocketing utilities prices in the last 20 years? pootin's been president for all 20 years.

>Over the past 20 years, utility tariffs in Russia have increased by 30 to 37 times. Over the past 20 years (these figures are averaged and may vary by region), the cost of maintaining a one-room apartment in our Vladimir Region has increased 31.6 times; for a two-room apartment, it has risen 30.9 times; and for a three-room apartment, 31 times."
https://www.тoмикc33.pф/novosti/97984/
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>>535755214
if you correct for inflation then the price has barely changed for private households.
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>>535755214
>you zigger, +25% is nothingburger, It's always been like that!
Mykola, you mad
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>>535755481
Getting 2000 slaveshits killed every single day is a price worth paying.
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>>535754610
>except when Schröder was Kanzler
No dude, his government was bought by Russia. They started with phasing out nuclear.
>>535754879
>>535755214
>What is inflation
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>>535748694
You people don't realize that Putin is a liberal... And that everybody hates liberals on Russia... Because they are selling the country out to thibsday... If an actual Nationalist leader comes, Russia has a lot of stuff on ice... Europe doesn't...
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>>535754879
Going from 20 to 38 cent in 18 years is 3.63% inflation. Completely reasonable.
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I believe in force and terror, so every POW will be dismembered and then burned while still alive. This will be spammed on ruski telegram channels.
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>>535755596
>No dude, his government was bought by Russia. They started with phasing out nuclear.
This. Schröder pushed through the plan to destroy German nuclear energy industry and replace it with dependency on Russian gas and later went to directly work for the Russian gas industry.
A literal traitor, same as Merkel.
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>>535755481
>+25% is nothingburger
kek, it's absolutely nothing over 20 years. By comparison, russias average utilities prices rose 30x-37x in the same period - that's 3,200% increase. Let that sink in, pidor!

And that's not the end of it. "Gas +87%, Electricity +57%: Alarming Chart of Utility Tariff Hikes Through 2029 Published"
https://www.pravda.ru/news/realty/2351783-zhkh-tariffs-forecast-2029/
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>>535755707
Just like with Soviet leaders which were known for running a good economy lmao.
Russians fully deserve a true nationalist.
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>>535755790
the zigger completely ignores my links where russian own statistics show prices for utilities increased in russia by 3,200% over the same 20 years.
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>>535755186
Modern Russia is far worse and more unpredictable than the Soviet Russia was. When I was a kid and USSR was around, no one saw USSR as a threat despite us fighting them in WW2, we were on friendly terms. After the fall, Russia turned unpredictable, and Putin has grown more paranoid and megalomaniac over the years. His war on Ukraine has proven our perparation to be the right move.
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Lmao at the warmongering retards in the thread. I hope you get blown apart by a gay drone strike.
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>>535748244
why are we fighting when we should be working together, attempting to create women with tails?
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>>535755827
funny how bolshevik caricature actually looked more human than putin thanks to putin's jewish slopped forehead
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>>535748244
>what about you?
I am not too eager. What about you? Are you preparing?
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>>535755906
>His war on Ukraine
why would you, Finns, care about Ukraine, given that it's been created by Lenin and Stalin, who waged wars against Finland? that make no sense, literally.

you, Finns, should support us, Russians, instead

especially, taking into account that there are Ingrian Finns in our army

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_Soviet_Socialist_Republic
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>>535748921
After all our ((donations)) and Germany literally financially collapsing on top of this and they are considered "the strong house". How can we financially be stable or " strong"?
>https://rmx.news/article/german-taxpayers-bled-dry-mass-migration-cost-e40-billion-in-2025/
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>>535752105
>Baltics

NATO has soldiers deployed to the baltics 24/7
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>>535756230
>why would you, Finns, care about Ukraine
Gee, I wonder why we'd care that Russia doesn't respect the sovereignty of a smaller neighbouring nation they've spewed propaganda about for the past 25 years, including claims of mistreated Russian speaking minorities in the country? It's not like that's exactly fucking how your media has been talking about Finland, too.
And the irony that you demand respect because a small population of Finns lives inside your borders because you took that region FROM Finland. It's like if we just seized a part of Russia and then demanded your respect for it.
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>>535755014
>you're the delusional retard coping with russia's supposed strength
russia has the largest nuclear stockpile in the world.

is this what you do all day? just gaslight and shill against reality as hard as you can?
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>>535751000
>>535754273
>>535754879
>>535755481

Imagine if the irish had just stopped resisting british occupation because the potato prices might go up.

>>535755014
like Hans said here, I'm not perpetually broke. Gas prices went up slightly, I now pay 65 quid instead of 58 quid every month. Oh no!!!!111111 PLEASE MAKE IT STOP PUTIN
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>>535748761
>I don't think Europe has to prepare for anything.
Famous last words. Dubai probably thought the same.
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I'm too old and mentally ill no thanks, they would have to do what russia did and dump my retarded ass on the frontline.
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>>535748244
I am preparing my snacks to watch sven get turned into pink mist while his GF fucks mohammed.
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>>535756416
>I wonder why we'd care that Russia doesn't respect the sovereignty of a smaller neighbouring nation
but Ukraine is an artificial entity, created off of the ethnical Russian provinces

why would we, Russians, respect their sovereignty, considering this? especially that they're the 1st ones who attacked our pro-Russian population in the south-eastern Ukraine

the Kremlin wasn't against the existence of Ukraine, at first, so that you know
>you took that region FROM Finland.
we didn't occupy Ingria from Finland, though, it's that the borders between Russia and Finland hadn't existed before 1918; we used to live in one country, obviously

the only region that was occupied from Finland is the Karelian Isthmus, but it was occupied by Stalin, who wasn't a Russian, but an anti-Russian Georgian
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>>535756673
Be honest. How would a three day special military operation go in Finland?
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>>535756722
Russia is an artificial entity. The correct way to call it is muscowia and the temporarily occupied territories.
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>>535756903
>Russia is an artificial entity
it's been existing since 862, so no
>muscowia
Moscow's region is just one of the Russian regions in Russia, lol

by your logic Germany is also "artificial", just because the main capital province there is Berlin
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>>535754160
>europe starts building their own arms industry
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>>535756230
>created by Lenin and Stalin
kek, why do you pidors cling to that propaganda lie so much?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_People%27s_Republic
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>>535757186
why are you so hellbent on destroying europe.
dont you have better things to do than sit in russia and cry/laugh about europe.
like improving your life or sth
serious question i dont get it
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>>535756722
>created off of the ethnical Russian provinces
why do you keep lying, pidor?
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>>535757199
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_People%27s_Republic
existed only on the paper, unlike from unified UkSSR, not to mention that it was proclaimed by the exact same leftists, like bolsheviks, just of a different branch -- SRs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Revolutionary_Party
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>>535757066
>it's been existing since 862
kek, not even the most rabid russian imperialists claim that.
>Moscow's region
Today's Russia was called Muscovy because it was governed as the Grand Duchy of Moscow (and later the Tsardom of Moscow), taking its name from its capital city, Moscow, and the Moskva River.
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>>535757214
Russia was selling gas to Europe since 1960s.
We had a very fruitfull business relationships with EU that were only going to improve with time.
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>>535757350
>existed only on the paper
Ukrainian People's Republic was recognized by the German empire, the Austro-Hungarian empire, the Ottoman empire, the kingdom of Bulgaria .... AND the Soviet russia, you dummy.
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>>535757186
>europe starts building their own arms industry
very funny indeed
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>>535757395
>kek, not even the most rabid russian imperialists claim that.
???

literally official historiography, even WIKI doesn't deny it

https://ru-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D0%A0%D1%83%D1%81%D1%8C?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=ru&_x_tr_pto=wapp
>>535757514
>Ukrainian People's Republic was recognized by the German empire, the Austro-Hungarian empire
recognition/=existence on the map, controlling all the proclaimed "ukrainian" lands, you imbecile hohol refugee
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>>535757509
>We had a very fruitfull business relationships with EU that were only going to improve with time.
I fully agree. Well, clearly it did not improve with time, but besides that.
All ideological reasons aside, I do not understand how having Parts of Ukraine was worth that. But you will probably say the exact same. Which leads to the question of who escalated.
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>>535748244
>by 2030
Have these people gone mad? How can we make sure we are complying with regulations with such a short notice? We should appoint a committee to investigate who decided on this timeline, followed by a committee to sketch a preliminary, non-binding, opt-in process to apply for the war, and then finally a committee to estimate a new timeline
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If Putin invaded, I'd throw flowers in his path.
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>>535757738
for me its really hard to engage with westerners on this topic because I just have to write a book to lift you up to the similar level of understanding the situation.
Lets just say this war was completely forced on us since you didn't draw similar conclusion from my previous post
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>>535748352
Fpbp

Only war can break the spell of institutionality and business as usual
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>>535757668
There is no honor in beating the Americans. They're literal niggers. Beating the Japanese is respectable. Or the Russians. But not the Americans.
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>>535757914
don't get your hopes too high up, he's not interested
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>>535757668
entire NATO is still behind Russia in production even on paper(they don't actually produce that much but only planning)
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>>535749967
Do you browns seriously think more people = better?
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>>535757903
they're banking on next president being more pro-war with Russia. I don't think it is happening
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>>535757668
This output would be depleted in 2 days if WWIII broke out.
In total world war, the state must commandeer all civilian industry and retool it for war production.
Most of Europe is a service (ie bullshit) economy. Are the offices and malls going to make shells and ammunition?
The elite is making zero effort to bring any industry back to Europe, which says that they know their WWIII rhetoric is bullshit, or they are dumber than a literal window licking retard (possible).
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im ready like you wouldnt believe
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>>535757678
>official historiography
lmao, this notion only exists in russia
>Northern Rus'
>sauce: Melnikova, 2023
kek, some "official" russian "historiography" newspeak. Fake AND gay.
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>>535758380
Its not like it matters, you subhumans still can't beat Ukraine even after 5 years. Nigging out doesnt work, so you're all out of options.
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>Russia is so weak and dumb hahah
>WE MUST PREPARE NOW! TOTAL WAR 2027!
wtf?
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>>535757946
>I just have to write a book to lift you up to the similar level of understanding the situation.
Could, perhaps, the stance of "you just dont understand" be detrimental to peace?
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>>535757946
What does zelensky speech in 2022 have to do with you starting the war in 2014?
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>>535758470
>>sauce: Melnikova, 2023
the article has westerner sources/authors, too, cope, pigger rapefugee

-- Zuckerman K. Restructuring of the most ancient Russian history
-- Annals of the Saint-Bertin Monastery , year 839. Quoted from: Ancient Rus' in Light of Foreign Sources.
-- Rice B. J. Secondary State Formation: An Explanatory Model // Origins of the State.
-- Polanyi К. Ports of Trade in Early Societies // JEH. 1963.
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>>535748244
More goyim is going to die for Israel it's going to be good.
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>>535748244
i also prepare for russian war by learning russian
He cTpe^RN cyka, R oTcocy te6e
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>>535748952
>Muh ratio
US still lost, period. Stop sucking their dick.
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>>535748899
>1903
>3
I'm so tired of the 3s man. I really am. And if they are going to force me to go... nah never mind.
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>>535758623
they knew exactly what they were doing. Putin's Munich speech was in 2007, first maidan failed in 2008 and second maidan succeeded in 2014.
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>>535759630
>You dont understand
>But your masters do
But you understand everything and have all infos from your masters - correct?
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>>535748244
Just not gonna join, sorry!
>But what about your wife? Your children? They will take away your house, the 401k, they will lock you up in a room for years as your country is ruined!!! Maybe even execute you, at least on the drone filled battlefields you could survive!!
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>>535759891
You don't respect Talmudic values of European Union you goy ? Now that's anti-Semitic.
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>>535748244

lol russia will just attack in 2029
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>>535748244
I couldn't wait. I'm already laughing at Europe.
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>>535748352
...for major ZOG capitals to get nuked
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didn't they just start buying russian oil again? which is it?
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>>535748761
Translation: European oligarchy is preparing to get into a war with russia to kit over how they destroyed the economy and to cling to power by sending all potential resistance into the meatgrinder.
They don't need to prepare to fight barely solvent russia. They need to prepare to kill us.
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>>535748694
Every country on the planet is on the verge of collapse. The wealthy are terrified. They just might suffer the slightest inconvenience as a consequence of their greedy and short sighted stewardship of the human race.
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The average euro sissy will flee their country the second there is a war
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>>535748244
Another falseflag kikewar
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>>535748244
But TV keeps saying Puting will be in Madrit by 2029.....
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>>535748244
I just want to be friends.
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>>535760741
When are you landing in Iran?
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The eternal pidor orc bandit question needs to be answered once and for all.
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>>535748244
this
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>>535761146
Nice. Do you have the burger version with the stars of david and stripes?
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>>535748244

Already have. Deployed four times in Ukraine to kill as many Russians as I can. I am ethnically Prussian. I hate you golems of the Jew more than anything and will side with anyone to get an excuse to kill more of you.

You invented the holocaust.

I will never forgive Russia for that until every Russian is dead.
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>>535748244
>two dying empires fighting each other
That is the same cope as on the vatnik side. Russia can't even conquer the retarded and corrupt hohols, and EU is a bureaucratic cancer that survives from inertia.
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>>535760866
gotta update the numbers sorry
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>>535761486
what a lying cocksucker jew
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>>535748244
Wanna tag team Europe together again?
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>>535763195
you created this problem on our border nigger
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I agree with Russian OP Europe should not be prepared for Russian aggression
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>>535748244
>they'll be ready for this war in four years, but they aren't yet
why doesn't Russia just attack now, then? Unless this isn't really about Russia at all
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It's been touched upon before and I'm going to do it again. The Russia Ukraine war is not about anything except a brokered real estate deal. The Ukraine and it's villages and towns and cities have already been divvied up to a future real estate venture. The goal is to destroy the villages towns and cities of the Ukraine. People are not going to move back into them there's nothing to move back into. If those people are still alive at the end of this thing and are landowners those people will be given compensation. It will probably be really shitty compensation let's be honest. The bankers from Israel Europe and the United States well then rebuild the Ukraine. Vladimir Putin has already received his cut of the deal preemptively for this task. He is enriched himself and members of his inner circles which there are many of. All the while he cleans out his prisons and his undesirables and throws them into the meat grinder with little hope of surviving. Missile that hits Kiev or another major city drives out more Ukrainian citizens from the country. It's doing exactly what it's supposed to do.
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>>535748352
Odd how all the brics brown sign tapping psyops resulted in a massive uptick in recruitment in Western countries.
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>>535763629
>The bankers from Israel Europe and the United States well then rebuild the Ukraine.
for greater pale of settlement pissrael
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>>535749110
And that's the plan
Send the remaining whites to die out
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>>535748244
Based Putin is going to kill every white in Europe then China will take over the world
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>>535748244
Nice, although that's utter bullshit. I do hope we all die though. Hope your family suffers, nigger
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>>535748244
I'm already prepared
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>>535748244
So they are NOT ready now is what they are saying?
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>>535764383
China isn't taking over shit. They're doomed too
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>>535764515
They won't be in 2030 either. Lots of money to launder in the meantime though, with the supposed investments in the military.
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>>535763629
Retarded meaningless speculation
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>>535748244
but that would be extremely environmentally-unfriendly, because without russian gas and oil they can only cut down all the forests for bows and arrows. i expect the greens to oppose this shit vehemently.
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>>535748244
don't worry, they won't be done with ukraine before the end of the century.
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EU vs. Russia, USA, China

Going to be interesing considering the EU's soldiers won't fight.
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>>535748244
I can't wait to get sent into a trench to get droned by a Russian mobik. Very cool.
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>>535748244
Plz tell your president Mr Putin to nuke London thx
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>>535765360
russians will reach berlin in 2275 at this tempo
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>>535748244
That is like only 3 years
They look very optimistic but i doubt they can switch to war economy so fast without natural resources of their own
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>>535767066
YES



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