Today I learned West countries really love dat inheritance taxmaxxing. My mom will leave her home to me for free, I thought its the same around the world.
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>>535755317if I recall correctly, it's 20% if you sell it in under 5 yearsother than that it's 0%
>>535755317you didn't learn shit because you think some infographic is a substitute for education.in Germany each parent can leave each child 400k € tax free as inheritance or gift while they're alive, so 800k € per child in total.that resets every 10 years, so they can gift more over a lifetime.only past that amount is inheritance taxed.
>>535755491and the primary residence is excluded from that and inherited tax-free as well.
Well you can't have serfs just build generational wealth and not pay twice the value of a house over 30 years, think about the GDP.Throwing your kids naked in the street helps build character, teaches them to lift themselves by the bootstraps. While paying rent to those that get small loans of a hundred million dollars.
>>535755579The solution is to have a big fat inheritance tax on the rich and 0% inheritance tax on those who are less well-off.
>>535755317Inheritance tax is one of the more fair taxes together with property taxes.You're getting something you didn't earn and that only exists only thanks to the civilized society around it keeping all the criminals and bandits from looting it.Compare it to income tax, for example, where you're getting punished for providing value to society.
>>535755317Yeah it's communism on testosterone, the state rape you in every single way imaginable and retards cheers for it.
>>535755317Today I learned indians and niggers are violent stink monkeys obsessed with western men.
>>535756259>I work so that my kids have where to live.>sorry not sorry rich goy, we gonna tax that shit.
>>535756259Typically purblind yuro. Selfish, incapable of thinking of time frames longer than a couple years.If I put in the work to get a house then it's mine and I want it to stay that way. Why should a bunch of niggers and jews get my shit for nothing? I am my family. Inheritance tax punishes providing value to society far more than income tax does. Any fucko can work a job. Having a family and estate planning contributes actual people to a country.
>>535756374If you let wealth compound you'll get a new aristocracy, Mr. "We're proud of beheading our aristocrats". Wealth should be taxed, work should not.
>>535756510>>535756524Your problem is that you think selfishly and emotionally, like women.Not that different from the whores doing their generational wealth planning by fucking around with businessmen and celebrities hoping to have a child with some random rich guy.
>>535756543There are countries with estate tax even when youre poor like USA, there is no risk of new "aristocracy", just jews garnishing funds for iron dome 1 milllion dollar missiles vs 500 dollar drones.
>>535756875How is working for your kids selfish? Its selfish to tax my house for feel good nigger gibs.
>>535756259Why is it fair for the money to be taxed a THIRD time?Here we have income tax of up to 50% so it gets taxed there already. Then say you build a house for your kids, you're getting taxed again with VAT and other bullshit and then you should be taxed again just because its in your kids name now?Come on now bud, there where whole peasant rebellions in Europe because they had to give a tenth to their lord.They have been trying to implement that shit here for a decade too but it has been extremely unpopular.
>>535757617Youre lucky if youre getting the house. The estate tax countries get their shit evaluated by crooked fucks and tough luck if you dont pay up the tax, the property is going up for sale.
>>535756259>something you didn't earn That retarded logic falls apart the moment you've had any participation in the wealth generation as a family unit.>>535757617It gets even worse when you factor in the fact that the employer is already paying a tax before giving you your salary.Over here about 50% of your wages have already been taxed away by the employer paying all kinds of taxes before you even get your salary.And for the fun of it, let's factor in all of the social security and pension payments that you pay into the system that are non inheritable and something you'll never benefit from due to not living long enough.In reality we are taxed at something like 80%-90% rate when you factor in all of this nonsense.Modern monetary system is beyond broken. In ancient Egypt you were considered a slave if you paid 20% taxes.
>>535756961Men build civilizations, it's the job of women take care of kids and home.If you can't think further than your immediate family you have a female brain.And nigger gibs society is precisely what happens if you tax wealth generation instead of wealth accumulated. One of your kids will grow up to be the lazy nigger living in the apartment you've slaved the banker kikes for 40 years and the second (unlikely to exist as it's heavily disincentivized to to have more than one kid in such economic model) will hate you because he gets nothing and has to join the same slave circle again.
>>535757617I say let it be taxed FOURTH and FIFTH time until you miserable shitheads earn redemption for bringing up Hitler.
>>535755491>400k €my dad left me over 3 million euro, tax freewhy are western europeans so fucking poor and stupid?
Inheritance Tax absolutely destroyed my family - w had to sell an estate that had been in the family since the 1400s.It is now owned by a foreign banker. I believe they put in a "modern" kitchen and painted the whole place white.
>>535758228get fucked hahahahaha
>>535755317taxing generational wealth should only apply to foreigners obviouslyespecially jewsin reality, it only applies to the indigenous populace because jews circumvent it via international banking
>>535758268What are you going to do with your imaginary "3 million euros", anon? Buy an imaginary Bugatti, yeah?
>>535758268Why? It's literally not his fault. Just like it's not an "achievement" that you inherited something tax free.
>>535758104We are his first victim dude, we dindu nuffinz
>>535755317wronkin sPAIN it is heavily dependent on where you live.>AI Overview In Madrid, inheritance tax is highly favorable for close relatives. Spouses, ascendants, and descendants receive a 99% tax bonification, meaning they effectively pay just 1% of the calculated tax.
>>535758644Should have let him pass the art school.
>>5357588451% seems fair, covering the legal fees for new estate registry entry.
>>535756259>defending taxesNeither did govt, bootlicker
Billionaires don't like it when the middle-class accumulates wealth, because they don't like company. That's what inheritance taxes are for: to cement the wealthy and the poor.
Nepo babies always whine about inheritance tax, but the thing is this:Any form of personal income gets taxed. Why shouldn't an inheritance be taxed>b-but my parents already paid tax on it!Yes. They paid tax on their personal income. You're a separate entity from them. If you pay money for a good or service, the person who sold it to you will have to pay tax on his income, even though he got paid with money of people who had already paid tax on said money.
>>535755317lol, it doesnt apply if a trust owns the property and the holder of the trust changes.
That's why richfags create fake some fake-ass charitable foundation in their name, put their kids in charge of the foundation and then leave all their wealth to ((charity))inheritance tax = evaded, with bonus virtue signal points for people who don't know the quick one they're pulling
>>535756543>you'll get a new aristocracyWe already have one and its composed of billionaires.They simply avoid taxes by buying the best legal advice.This only affects ordinary people. Essentially it's not a weapon against the rich its a weapon by the rich to defend and keep their privileged position against any plebian interlopers
>>535759183Yep that's exactly what's happening. Recently there was some interview with a member of parliament here, and he was directly asked "why are we getting taxed when inheriting one house, but rich people aren't getting taxed when they inherit 300 houses" and the guy immediately started seething kek
>>535755317Balkans does it because their population would literally die without those pennies. Swe/No does it because it's baller.We are not the same.
>>535755317Jew have to tax everything.
>>535755317We do not have inheritance tax, only gift tax. Furthermore it is free for a parent to give money to their kid or spouse. This is exempt from the standard gift tax rules. They cannot freely give their money to other people, even family members.
dont be fooled its not the rich paying them
>>535755317This are literally globohomo dysgenic politics in practice, hindering white people from accumulating inter-generational wealth and power, and preventing them from having a linage/heritage. Indirectly it lowers the white birth rate as why would someone invest in the future, as the government will take it and give it to shitskins/niggers anyway?!
>>535755948Yes, nigger, taxing the rich always worked on the long run. It's like a drug for low IQ losers.
>>535764349>>535764524gypsy nigger
>>535764349You dont get it, the goym must always have high cortisol levels about the insecure future so that they would indebted goyslaves afraid to lose their jobs.
>>535756875>Your problem is that you think selfishly and emotionally, like womenIt's the exact opposite. You are the one that sees a nice house and get jealous and feel like you're owed a piece of the house just for existing.
>>535764549How is trusting the government working out for you?!
>>535764349Birth rates are plummeting for the reason, that its increasingly difficult for new families, who were not born into wealth to get any new real estate. If anything, inheritance tax should be even higher, to free up some shit, lower the prices and give newcomers a head start.
>>535764575Agree. Also, planning for the future/surviving winter is the base for European genetics, so hindering this aspect is basically fucking up all our survival instincts.
>>535756259>be broke.>inherit 500.000€ property with a house etc etc.>now forced to sell off that property at massive "loss" just to pay off the taxes.many such cases. Only ones who profit are the ones who know taxation loopholes and are able to manipulate inheritance values to the ground by knowing the right people.
ITT: trailer trash seething at people wanting to leave their children something more than a serfdom contract, instead of striving to give their own children a better life. Acting like it's something concerning billionaires, not a way to kick people out of their family homes to make room for "foreign investors" and REITs.No point in debating it, it's what trailer trash does and what makes trailer trash.
>>535756259Inheritance/property tax should be zero on your primary residence. And very steep for any other property.
>>535765385normal people in germany can inherit and gift 400k every 10 years, you cattle. there are too many loopholes tho for richa good family has 3+ children so. wealth only accumulates in single child gsmilies which is the source of all the problems we have with our demographic changesbut you miga nigger are too stupid to understand that
>>535756259>>535765267>Taxed when you receive the money>Taxed when buying the house>Taxed while owning the house>Taxed when you die>Your children will be taxed when they are forced to sell the home to pay the taxes for when you die>Taxed when buying another home if they can>This is ok because it's owning le rich (it's actually owning the middle class since the rich have their money in Bahamas but leftists hate the middle class too so whatever)
>>535755317You lucky bastard!
>>535765385Fair enough, but no inheritance income tax, means rich families become even more rich, while the poor get more poor. The middle class eventually dissapears, youre either in the circle or not. High inheritance tax would mean you still leave your children plenty of a headstart, but they still have to work for their future, in turn leaving some breathing space for others, instead of just creating nepo baby slobs who never have to work a day in their life again.
>>535765730high inheritance tax just means you fund jewish organized crime and terrorism more retard
>>535765833It's hard to discuss these things when most people assume taxes are funding hospitals for sick children when in reality it's funding drug fueled orgies for the elite.
>>535764896>inheritance tax should be even higher, to free up some shitNigger, taxes doesn't mean more money/opportunities for white families, it's the opposite. And regarding real-estate prices, blame vampire boomers that made their life mission to turn the next generations in the their personal debt slaves, and immigrants that are both increasing the housing demand and also lowering the wages.
>>535755317There is no tax in hungary if you leave it to a relative or spouse
>>535755317A western person makes the same amount of money you make in 30 years in 1 year. But yes you are winning
>>535755317europe is genociding itself.
>>535755317Your families wealth is for refugees, not you. Pay up cattle.
>>535766210it isnt very heard you just mention how jew bribe people to avoid paying taxes so taxing the rich is child's dream in the first place
>>535755317Nigger it is 0% from first grade relatives(parents, siblings). If your uncle dies, then it's 18% to the faggot state
>>535765730Stop thinking like that. personal property is not for the collective. Rich or poor.Noone will get rich if there are estate taxes. That's that's about how it is in europe. Everyone is poor. people with money never come, never invest, nobody bothers to make money since the government comes a long and takes it all. Europe is a poverty ridden hell hole as a result.All the rich are elsewhere.
>>535755317My parents are going to leave everything including their giant house to me tax free. That's nice, but on the other hand I got into the 50% income tax bracket last year...
>>535765833>>535766210Taxes being mismanaged is a hardly fixable problem, that existed ever since they first started taxing. But what are other options? You allow unlimited wealth hoarding, youre going to end up with masters and slaves pretty fucking soon. Even now the middle class is diminishing every day.
>>535759080Maybe my baby should pay tax every time I feed him some food as well, since I should not be allowed to give things to my children, taxfree.
>>535766275I would gladly earn even less than now than have to look at swiss mutts when I step outside and noy white people around whom I can relax.
>>535766641>But what are other options?making sure who gets your hard earner money yourself you domesticated retard>Even now the middle class is diminishing every day.because middle class is always made of honest hard workers who cant compete with your ever growing taxes on the rich and cant fund army of lawyers to legally get around taxes and cant bribe politicians for tax cuts like the rich you retardmiddle class was still doing great when you were starting your war on povertyexcept for communist countries where it didnt exist thanks to equalityonly super rich and poor classmasters and slaves
>>535766641>But what are other options? You allow unlimited wealth hoarding, youre going to end up with masters and slaves pretty fucking soon. Land value tax. Estate tax is the most nefarious tax there is because it forces companies to distribute ownership and puts all power into institutional investors.
>>535759080Income tax should be abolished for everyone
>>535766641The middle class is diminishing because all of these taxes hurt the middle class, while government policies benefit large companies. Rich people don't have a billion dollars sitting in their bank accounts, you won't just tax that (and their bank accounts are not in the country to begin with). They have a thousand ways to avoid these taxes, they can put their property inside companies, they can pretend their property is worth less than it really is etc. They aren't exploiting bugs in the system, those are features.Also you are already a slave.
>>535766641Unlimited wealth hoarding in capitalism is pure communist fantasy.One of my long time ago ancestor had a lot of land, can you guess what happened?! It was divided to nothing between his kids and their kids and so on. Also many sold their land, to the point now that you can barely tell that at one point there was a single family there.
A big part of this discussion is that people from the bottom 50% think people in the top 10% to 2% are part of "the rich".
>>535767222>It was divided to nothing between his kids and their kids and so on.so how many kids does the average fsmily have in europe
>>535767222Funny story. My family on my father's side technically owns a castle somewhere in Romania with about a hundred people and their homes in the surrounding land. My dad gets a letter every other year asking him to formally claim it, but if we do we are on the hook to restore and maintain it as well as those shitcovered hovels on our land.Just to be safe nobody from my family ever travels to or through Romania.
>>535767694This was more than two centuries ago, in the rural area one family had at least 5 kids, so just 4 generations would mean more than 3k people.
>>535768011If you lawyer up, that sounds like winning the lottery.At the same time, we have the corrupt concept of selling your inheritance/litigious rights, so you can make some easy money by selling away your rights to some scumbag laywer. This is the way a lot bottom of the barrel gypsies ended up owning high end houses in old city centers.
>>535768596Haha Romania is so fun and crazy.
>>535768964We have to thank the communist era for fucking up the understanding of private property and ownership. All this legal bullshit was intended to restore normal ownership, but, as usual, government only makes a bad situation worse.
>>535755491>per parent >per 10 yearswhat abysmally retarded bureaucratic kikery
>>535768011>Just to be safe nobody from my family ever travels to or through Romania.mine too and we dont even own any castles
>>535768596Yeah no we already checked all that. Nobody wants to sink €300k and whatever yearly cost into maintaining that piece of shit not to mention making sure it doesn't get infested with gypsies.>>535770000kek good point
>>535755317The family home is not considered for inheritance tax.
>>535769439The funny part is that their bubble real estate easily costs more than 400k kek and they gotta pay tax on moms inheritance.
I'd be happy with a 99% inheritance tax over the median (not average) home price in America. You didn't earn any of that shit. The person who did is dead, and they don't care anymore. Why should one person who didn't earn any of that shit be favored over all the other people who didn't earn that shit, either? Because of a circumstance of your birth? Fuck that shit.
>>535767222My family story is even funnier, my grandparents siblings got the land because my grandparents got something far more valuable: an education and good jobs. Shiny shoes and respect of the community.I, their descendant, also have an education and a>>535767222 good job. My distant cousins, descendants of the cowshit shovelling branches, got half a fucking mountain of forests and pastures. They have "going out to town" SUVs and "horsing around on the mountain" SUVs. They buy ponies for their kids on a whim.But joke's on them, I have an education and a good job. And an old skoda.>>535768011Lol, I'm pretty sure you can't inherit people and their homes. Usually that's solved by the state paying you the value of the land, the houses have likely been built/rebuilt over the last century. If there have been any renovations of the castle, you might inherit debt, though.
>>535755317Whites need to make nepotism great again.STOP HIRING BROWNOIDS
>>535755317only the middle class freier and uninformed ascendants pay these taxesfriend of mine born and raised in the benelux region never paid a single cent of tax on their family colonial era fortune
>>535770095>making sure it doesn't get infested with gypsiesLol, I'm certain it's already infested. That is a specific problem with old German villages in Transylvania, gypsies took over. Even happy cases like Viscri, have this problem.Ironically to your situation, there was a German fellow, Willy Schuster, that basically owned a village and somewhat managed to domesticate the local gypsies and was a success story.
>you go to work>get taxed on what you earn>get taxed on what you buy so can stay alive and work more>you get taxed on the car and gas you buy to go to work>you get taxed on what you make through investments>you get taxed on the home you bought that you need to live>you get taxed through the energy you pay for to actually be able to function in a day to day basis>you get taxed on the things you own even after you die and give them to your familylol
>>535756899>countries with estate tax even when youre poor like USAUSA has a 13m over all lifetime gift exception before taxes kick in for the value. You can use it during your life to gift money or goods over the yearly 12k or whatever limit. If you don't use it by the time you die 13m of your estate escapes inherence tax. So of course, most estates are well under even 2 mill.Buuut different states have different probate laws and that can be some real BS. Like CA has mandatory structured probate fees. That's why so many turn to trusts.
>>535770439Sounds typical. What most commie and post-commie Romanians don't get is that generational wealth is the only realistic way for someone to escape the rat race. Education and a good job only gives you, at best, a middle class wage slave existence.
>>535771797Its an interesting filter of society in a way. Parents who care about their children leave them the best home they can. Whicb signals to employees and other humans that you have the altruistic gene in your family which in itself makes it easier to earn money and buy better home for future kids by appearing trustworthy.
>>535758185We didn't see the fruits of communism the same way you did so we're trying to emulate it now.
>>535771797To be fair, the decision was made in the late interbellum, when being a professional actually meant something and even if you had a shitton of wild land, exploiting it with virtually no mechanization wasn't easy living.But it's a good example of inheritance vs putting your trust in society rewarding you.
>>535767222Romania didn't even have capitalism 200 years ago, you went straight from feudalism to communism
>>535755317>7.65-81.6%Of course my commie shithole cunt is numbah wun.
>>535756259Your parents already paid taxes when their bought the house and also during all the years they lived in it. Why would you have to pay even more taxes on something that you have been paying taxes for so many years?
>>535774772Its for the well being of society as a whole, to lower inquality. Supposedly, but the rich never pay their share.
>>535775015Yeah and public services are either not improving or getting worse each year, like healthcare, education and justice.
>>535774051>you went straight from feudalism to communismUneducated nigger, we had a capitalist period before communism was imposed, but, yes, it was in feudalism, my ancestors were free peasants, răzești, that had additional responsibilities to the lord but owned land.
>>535770243Fuck the government. They don’t deserve a dime. Jewish pedophiles
>>535775581I think the english term is yeomen. Peasants implies working a lord's land.
