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Why the fuck do governments in nearly all nations intentionally try to make suicide so difficult, without offering any other alternative to die quickly and painlessly? Governments are fucking niggers, it's none of their fucking business. I want to die, but they managed to close up nearly all the ways to do it that don't require shit ton of money and time. Sure, one can still buy some fucking Cessna 152 and crash it into the ground, but that's a really expensive and unrealistic suicide method. All the other loopholes are closed and can't be done. Fuck normalfags that support this shit.
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>>536142508
The state allows doctors to suicide people in almost every western country bud
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>>536142508
a knife is cheap and your wrists are right there
also, this is an extremely russian post
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>>536142508
you dont have knives in russia? rope shortages? not enough cold to go freeze yourself to death?
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>>536142508
GDP and manpower for war.

There was a reason it was historically taboo to kys because big tribe > small tribe
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>>536142508
>money and time
You know you can simply jump from a very high place right?
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>>536142508
Suicide is easy to do. Open a vein. Hang. Jump. If you want out anyone can make it happen.
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>>536142508
>they managed to close up nearly all the ways to do it that don't require shit ton of money and time
it's hard in russia, the rope tax was bad enough but then they added that 10 day waiting period, so I definitely sympathize
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>>536142612
>a knife is cheap and your wrists are right there
Honestly, I'm kind of a pussy for that particular solution, and governments know it, so they're restricting "easier" methods.
>>536142644
Rope solution is difficult to do properly in a typical apartment (i.e. without the cause of death being asphyxiation)
>>536142710
That's the most realistic solution, but the governments are working on shutting down very actively. It is still possible to do it today, but in the future probably not. They're just not gonna let you into tall buildings unless you work or live there, and then probably put some nets or something for a good measure.
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>>536142508
Imagine if everyone did it. They would have to work!
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>>536142865
You don't need a tall building. Nature has given you plenty of high places to jump from. If you really hate going in nature you won't do it even to kill yourself, finding a construction site. Climb the scaffolding or climb a crane. You could do it if you really wanted to. I think part of you still has some hope for your life though.
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>>536142865
i think most people end up not breaking their neck and just choking. ive got trees galore outside and still dont think i couuld manage to drop and break my neck.
nothing wrong with a bit of choking on the way out anon. if you want out that is.
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>>536142508
She makes me leak and cream myself.
>>536142644
There's no rope shortage in my pants. Open your mouth, jeet.
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>>536142508
Just move to Canada
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>>536142508
can't pay tax if you're dead
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>>536142998
>Nature has given you plenty of high places to jump from.
That's not something I've thought about and I struggle to imagine what specifically is needed. Some kind of a mountain? I don't know, I'm retarded.
>finding a construction site
Same thing, didn't think about it, and it seems easier, I don't know what scaffolding looks like either, but it's much easier it seems
>I think part of you still has some hope
No, it's just that I unironically don't want to disappoint parents who wasted so much money on me, so I'm probably not gonna do it this year or the next year, and that's why I'm worried that it's only going to be more difficult in the future.
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>>536142508
Bro, just use a rope. What the fuck are you on about? Get near blackout drunk on your favorite spirit and hang yourself. Holy fucking shit how hard is that?
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>>536143337
>Some kind of a mountain?
That would work but you can probably do it with methods a lot easier than mountain climbing. For example you could hike up an escarpment and find a place with a high sheer rock wall. You could try a big tree but that's likely to leave you injured badly without killing you, you want rock and you want it to be as high up as possible. However a bridge high over water will also do.
>I unironically don't want to disappoint parents
Me neither. Now I have a wife too so I'll never do it. unless she dies first (very unlikely)
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>>536143173
>entire post about gayness
hang yourself then gypsyfag
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>>536143216
Canada doesn't have MAiD for people without illnesses though. And moving countries is essentially impossible if the target country is first world for an average person like me
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>>536142508
OD on drugs or sleeping pills
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>>536142865
>rope is difficult in an apartment
just get a wall mounted pull up bar you fucking pussy. nothing is instantaneous. breaking your neck doesn't kill you instantly. your body doesn't move because your nerves are damaged or severed but your consciousness remains for a while. and even after you fade to black your brain is still slowly dying away.

the only true instant death is either vaporization through explosion, compression through insane pressure like in a submarine accident, or blowing your brains out with a shotgun so that nothing remains to process consciousness or unconscious 'dreams'

face it, you will die one day if it's by your choice and hand or not. it will likely be either in some kind of accident or from a type of disease. possibly even old age if you keep pussying out. and once it does, you'll get to experience every last moment of it, just like 99.9% of everyone ever alive. so stop being a faggot and do it if you're so desperate.
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>>536143581
I want to fuck you and your brown wife. Now.
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>>536142508
This is one of the examples where it's the public to blame more than the government really. The public in the West morally oppose suicide, to the point that they're fucking retarded and will leave terminally ill people to suffer, meanwhile if their pet cat or dog was terminally ill they'd have it put to sleep as an act of mercy.

In terms of the government, the government likely don't want their farm animals killing themselves. If you're alive you can be a functioning cog in the machine. But it's more the public than the govt to blame here.
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>>536143337
The most painless method is a high energy one. Explosives, electricity, jump from a high place. Don't KYS yourself though, you need some hopium. No anon deserves to suffer.
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>>536143684
Dilate, Troon.
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>>536143719
if i had a brown wife i might even let you.

>>536143824
high voltage is definitely an option. just set things up so its over in a single 'BANG' instead of whre you end up hanging on to the lines and frying for a couple minutes like the jeets you see in gore videos.
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>>536143676
Which ones
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>>536142865
you're lucky, if you whine about your government enough they'll send a team of specialists to throw you out of a window for free
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why do you want to die?
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>>536143684
But it's better to break the neck anyway, is it not
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>protect idiots from themselves
>keep their tax cattle alive
and most importantly
>prevent state-sanctioned murder from becoming incentivized in the medical industry, like it has become in canada
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>>536143966
Holy based. I'm not a physics fag but I think the high voltage setup is doable using capacitors. So I heard lots of people die when they try to repair microwave ovens. Apparently their caps unleash all that stored energy and you're instantly zapped to death even after you unplug it. If I were OP I'd buy some microwave ovens, AI can help you with the circuit.
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>>536143824
>jump from a high place
That seems to be the most realistic method, just have to find the place and actually get there.
Also, I wonder how does one jump head first and forward? I feel like it's not as easy as it seems.
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>>536144302
be nice if you could take those capacitors to a favorite location and off yourself to a nice view. pocket death tubes
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>>536144337
just make sure you wont land on anyone else. that would be really fucking nasty of you, you cunt
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>>536144119
Life sucks in the general, this country sucks, in general I feel like I was dealt a bad hand in life at birth, and I have no desire to "play the hand you're dealt", I'm a poorfag, retarded, socially retarded, other problems, etc
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>>536144251
>>prevent state-sanctioned murder from becoming incentivized
State sanctioned killing has existed since the dawn of time, war and the death penalty.
Your points contradict each other, if the state wants to keep people alive then it would not be incentivizing killing them.

> like it has become in canada
It hasn't. And the only people whining about Canada are gormless Burger evangelicals who have a supposedly 'moral' opposition to people who are seriously ill choosing to die.
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>>536144433
I had the same idea but I dunno how long the charges last. Or if you could charge them with something portable like a car battery. Either way I hope OP doesn't do it and finds a way to cope (and avoid the draft too).
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>>536144098
That's a really bad idea though and it's not even reliable, could just be sent into a prison instead
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>>536142508
just stop eating/drinking.
or go outside and let the elements take you.

it's a lot easier to die than you think
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>>536142508
Because they don't want you to kill yourself anon. But I do
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>>536144659
>go outside and let the elements take you
What do you mean?
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>>536144433
You can use them as weapons as well with a little bit of rigging. Anyway I was never here
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>>536144548
MAID is the fifth leading cause of death in Canada
currently, 5% of canadian deaths are through MAID, but that number is growing
MAID is the natural end state of universal healthcare and it is absolutely incentivized
behind your mask of naive incuriosity is a profound evil that views people on the margins as economic units, wasting resources that could be spend housing and feeding millions of indians
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>>536144548
we've all already seen canadian public healthcare encouraging patients to kill themselves to cut costs
if you create a legal financial incentive to kill people it's going to get abused rampantly, without exception
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>>536144871
>if you create a legal financial incentive to kill people it's going to get abused rampantly, without exception
That's why you can't have a private healthcare.
You need to have the gov control of the healthcare.
Fully privatized healthcare like in USA is only interested in keeping you half sick while you work 10x hard
your best 20 years of your life.
And then they want you to be permanently sick on permanent drugs .
And then die from cancer that they fail to successfully operate for $250K.
>the most profits possible for a private healthcare.
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>>536142590
No, and that's a massive amount of work to do and only a option for a tiny % of people
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>>536144609
hell, we have powerlines fucking everywhere over here. all you need is a way to connect yourself to them briefly and you can go anywhere.

>>536144803
4th i think
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>>536145117
>collective state-run healthcare leads the state straight up murdering 5% of its citizens to save $200k on end of life care
>this is why the only moral and compassionate solution is collective state-run healthcare
bring back poll tests
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Eat death cap mushrooms but it can make you have a lot of pain and take 2 weeks until death and hurts the entire time.

Ax method(pic rel)
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>>536142508
I love Fern
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You need to store gasoline
Gasoline can be unstable
And you want to pile up a lot of gasoline for a really long time.
Quick and as painful transition as it can be because it goes boommmm
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>>536142508
Look into asphyxiation by helium. Basically you need a bottle of helium and a bag over your head. You're out in seconds and dead within minutes. It's completely painless.
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>>536144761
well, you go outside without a coat.
and find hungry animals to make friends with
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>>536145539
And where would you get that helium without oxygen being mixed in?
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Brinks armored car.
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>>536142508
If abortion is legal (basically a mother deciding that their children should die) then suicide should be. I really don't understand why governments have such an issue with this...
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Once a British man did arson acts on refugee camps.

Tied a rope on something and got inside his car and accelerated until decapitation was archived.

Build a guillotine but huge ax may be easier.

Or go to the front...
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>>536145597
youd have to buy/rent a bottle from a gas supplier.
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>>536145751
most dont really. they just need to get around to finding a way to have the government take care of it all since they all hate people taking the law into their own hands.
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>>536142508
>Why the fuck do governments in nearly all nations intentionally try to make suicide so difficult, without offering any other alternative to die quickly and painlessly?

Dead people don't pay taxes
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>>536145597
Nah, you can buy pure helium in a huge bottle/cylinder. They use it for under water welding, or you could get a smaller cylinder like the ones you use to inflate the party baloons. Make sure it comes with a pressure regulator though. You wouldn't wanna blow your lungs into pieces (pulmonary edema) . Just google suicide by helium and take it from there. Argon and Nitrogen work too, but Helium is the best.
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>>536142508
>Why the fuck do governments in nearly all nations intentionally try to make suicide so difficult
Bro you live in Russia. Just go enlist the casuality rate is 2 deaths to every one wounded. Your chances are pretty good.
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Helium makes your voice funny.
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>>536144241
No. It changes fuck all for the one dying. Breaking the neck is more to appease the people and make it appear 'clean' and instantaneous. But in reality same as with the guillotine, the brain remains conscious and continues processing for as long as it's able to. Why the fuck are you so afraid of that anyway? You're going to fucking die. How will it matter? What a poser garbage thread.
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>>536145859
Mass civilian suicide is bad for the market
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>>536142508
They are useful slave labor for the elite. Canada made euthanasia legal because they are importing millions of jeets to replace said slaves.
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>>536142508
You don't want to die, you are just upset.
Like a small child having a temper tantrum.
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>>536145823
I see. Either way, it's pretty gay of them. It should not be illegal, and it should be as easy as going to the doctor, signing some release forms, going to the pharmacy and picking up the painless death pill.
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>>536145991
It's a really questionable and unreliable method
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>>536145430
This was a missile strike. You can see the reflection in one of the SUVs rear window. The one right in front of the house
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try canada
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>>536146011
I don't want it to be too painful
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Why rape ape allows this thread up?
It's because he is Russian? The Ukrainian and nafo troons like the Norwegian Russian hater masturbate to it?
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>>536146095
its almost that way here, but not because they love freedom of choice.
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Pic rel was a proto nigger fucker and died after looking for drugs at 17.
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They said this guy hanged himself in his jail cell with his prison shorts
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Jeff did it with bedsheets tied into his mattress
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>>536146412
How is it possible
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>>536142508
Come to Canada, if you're white they will Euthanize you without a second thought
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Try getting cancer or go to the front. And actually don't fight, try to walk to Germany.

>>536146532
Yes? How? Why I don't get a fulminating brain cancer and die in 3 months?
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Or turn your own weapon against you....

They don't accept you in the army? Crazy you said Russia closed all the options
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Why would it be the government's job to help you kill yourself? Do you even hear yourself, man? The government's already done more than enough to help you die. Just enlist for the military and step on a landmine.
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>>536146614
>Why would it be the government's job to help you kill yourself?
I'm saying that they should not attempt to prevent suicide rather than actively help
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>>536146681
They try to prevent suicide to keep the cattle on the loosh farm. Self-interest always.
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>>536145310
The state doesn't have profit motives it has a mandate to provide services. The highway system exists for example.
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So you don't want to actually die?
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>>536146570
This is no joke. My dad suffers from arthritis in his hands and during a visit to the doctor they asked him several times to consider using MAID. Shit is cooked broski
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>>536146872
They must have millionaire contracts and money flows like Somalian day care fraud
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>>536142508
>tf
>tp
lmao
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>>536146872
more and more stories like this
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>>536146966
He had no friends. What's the problem?
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>>536142508
Tie your shoelaces around your neck as tight as you can. Sure, it'll hurt, but you'll be unconscious in 30 seconds. You can surely handle 30 seconds of pain.
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>>536147055
i know,. he even had to live at home with his parents. death was the obvious recommendation
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>>536146177
you only die once
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>>536147160
Are you being ironic? He was extremely unhappy
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>>536146791
your prediction doesn't match reality, I just explained why. ask clarifications questions or fuck off, I didn't post just to provide a soapbox for you to double down on your provably incorrect predictions of organizational behavior.
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>>536147193
Unhappy people is MY socialist workers utopia?
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>>536147193
of course....having the doctor help you kill yourself is only normal and to be expected. nothing better could be hoped for. We care for white people here in Canada.
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>>536146791
profit motives are universal because everyone has to deal with scarcity
the government doesn't behave any differently than a corporation, it already is one itself
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>>536142508
We are literal cattle, anon. The god of the jews (the demiurge) controls this realm and the jews are chosen by him to herd the cattle (us, the goyim). This is why jews control everything in this realm: they are in cahoots with the entity that runs the loosh farm, so they are given power in exchange for helping facilitate the flow of loosh. Kinda like how back during the times of slavery, you had the "house niggers" who were treated better than the ones that worked in the fields.

So yeah, this is why they don't want anyone to die. The demiurge isn't done fattening you up for the slaughter yet.
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>>536147647
You don't understand, he was very unhappy and you wouldn't be his friend.
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>>536147721
i DO get it and thats why Canada killing white people is a good thing
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>>536147647
>>536147721
Funny how those advocating for death are still alive.
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>>536147887
Funny how those who use cyberweapons against thirdworlders(me) also use drugs.
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>>536146242
I've heard that it takes many many months and you need to say that you're depressed and explain yourself n shit.
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>>536142508
>without offering any other alternative to die quickly and painlessly
why lie? russia is way ahead on the curve. they will even pay you for this.
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>>536148050
yeah they say that but im not sure. you read reports of doctors offering maid to everyone with an ache and then coming to the house for the grand send off. some funny shit is going on with this.
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>>536147867
Look I understand you guys are saying they offer this to anyone
But that guy you showed in your picture clearly extremely unhappy for most of his years on earth, he wanted it and he got it.
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>>536147678
>profit motives are universal
>because everyone has to deal with scarcity
That doesn't follow the government is ideally operated as a non-profit. That's why you don't pay $300 in tolls driving to work every day.
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>>536148565
and it took the Glorious Government of Canada to give it to him. Im so proud.
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>>536142508
Of course nations want to keep taxpayers at all costs. A country couldn't operate otherwise. They also want your parents and grandparents to spend all their fortune and let you inherit nothing, and cut your pension and raise retirement age.
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>>536148574
>ideally
but not in reality, where resources are finite.
you haven't really thought about the economics of treating someone for years vs. just offing them.
governements have.
that's why 1 in every 20 canadians alive today will be euthanized, and it couldn't happen to a more deserving people.
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>>536149091
I'm not operating on the assumption of infinite resources. Public sector economics is an entirely different beast than private sector economics.

>you haven't really thought about the economics of treating someone for years vs. just offing them.
>governements have.
I understand that. But the government doesn't have an incentive to maximize profits because no one is benefits from that. If there is a $10 budget to provide people healthcare then they will use $10 to provide healthcare. There are no shareholders to return the profit to there is no incentive to no use the entire budget.
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Just join the very special 3 day military operation and commit suicide by Ukrainian drone.
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>>536148140
Unreliable, could just end up without limbs
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>>536149392
>Public sector economics is an entirely different beast than private sector economics
except in reality, "maximizing profts" is basically the same as making the limited resources go as far as they can. there is some money paid out to shareholders, but it turns out this loss is dwarfed by the impressive leaps in accessibility that come from simply letting market participants bid for what they want. this is why the poorest person in america can get treatment the next day while even rich people in england and canada die on waitlists of preventable causes.
making something cheaper on paper doesn't mean there's more of it to go around. in practice it means there's less, because resource-constrained governments institute arbitrary price caps, and MRI makers decide "fuck it I'll just sell these in america, or make something else entirely"
an insurance company just sees this is a another profitable service.
the ideal system would build on these lessons to improve price transparency and let people send their own demand signals. at end of life, people should be able to make an informed choice between expensive treatment, palliative care, or euthanasia. governements cannot choose the first one. the average taxpayer doesn't generate enough to cover $300k of end of life care. if that's really what you want when you're 95 and your organs are failing you should start saving now because even norway can't give that to everyone.
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>>536149835
But why do you wanna kys so bad, anon?
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>>536151488
>>536144510
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>>536151545
Sorry, didn't see it. How old are you, if I may ask?
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>>536142590
what kind of stupid fucking post is this
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>>536143676
but do this on the train tracks
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>>536144302
>So I heard lots of people die when they try to repair microwave ovens. Apparently their caps unleash all that stored energy and you're instantly zapped to death even after you unplug it.
I am unironically repairing my microwave oven. The door doesn't stay closed so I'm stripping it to replace probably a broken latch spring.

Thabks for the tip m8, all watch myself.>>536144337
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>>536151762
dressed in black
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>>536142508
>>536151762
Just get drunk as fuck and jump in front of a train frfr or get drunk as fuck and sleep in the snow naked. Alcohol really makes it easier to do.
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When I kms I’m gonna find a tornado
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>>536142508
There was a guy at some country who was sentenced to death for trying to kill himself
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>>536151981
That's how the British used to be. I think they would also confiscate all of your property and punish your family over it iirc
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>>536151883
>get drunk as fuck and sleep in the snow naked. Alcohol really makes it easier to do.
this. its literally just a step outside your door for a lot of anons. i dont say you should, or that its good or anything, buti'll say this - ive been close to dying in the snow drunk, and it wasn't bad. quite nice really, and i think thats the best anyone can really hope for.

just go get lost in the snowy forest and take a lot of drink if thats what you want. just make sure you really want it, because theres no refunds lol
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Easy Peasy. 12 gauge shotgun in the mouth pointed up at about 40 degrees of of horizontal and straight back to insure destruction of the brain stem. Use a slug. Your brain will all be red mist before the pain message would even get to its destination, so it is instant and painless. Don't fuck up!
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>>536142508
Bump.

Why aquire Morphine legally to KMS is so harsh
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>>536149835
why do you lie?
they even give you an old rusty ak to blow your head off
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>>536152045
The one I talk was in current times, I assume some Muslim country considering how retarded the sentence is
>wants to kill himself
>uhm sweaty, that's illegal, now you must die
>????
>profit
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>>536152126
i would pay a guy to blow my head off while i was sleeping.
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>>536152126
firearm ownership laws are just another way that governments control access to death.
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>>536152069
>thats the best anyone can really hope for.
What do you mean by this? Why would a less stressful way of dying be so much better than a stressful way if you are going to be dead soon anyways? It doesn't even matter how you die. Someone who died in a sedated state is no better off than someone who died by cartel gore enthusiasts, because they both dead
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>>536151981
Lmao that's an insane level of spite
Always remember folks, NOBODY hates you more than the people who rule you
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>>536142508
Go to Canada.
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>>536152305
Alright then, you hallway chirp having motherfucker. Pick one.
Being hacked to death by cartel fags or getting so drunk you fall asleep in the snow and don't wake up.
You utter fucking lip pointer.
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>>536142508
I am absolutely against what you want to do, but if you are convince it is the right thing for you, ask an offline AI. Check out tutorials to get it setup and then tell it you wanna go quickly and painlessly.

I believe the reason why western governments allow mentally disturbed people to do this is because they are the kind unfit to follow military orders.
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>>536152305
look, if you want a stressful way of dying then the world is your oyster. i hope your last moments dont telescope out into hours of hopeless and futile pain nigger. go ahead - i look forward to your report.
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>>536144548
>And the only people whining about Canada
> have a supposedly 'moral' opposition
Haha yeah fuck that

>>536144803
Yes useful idiot et al. MAID is 100% purely aimed at exterminating old people.
First the TV was very excited to kill people in a coma or "vegetative state", while doctors tell you it's not possible for them to ever recover, but sometimes they make a miracle recovery the next week, so you just killed them for no reason.
Then the TV talked non-stop about killing babies again for a solid decade.
Now we just straight up kill old people. Literally Sam Hyde's "we're just gonna kill 'em".
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>>536142508
guide for newfags

1s floor 100% survival rate, bend ancle
2nd floor 88% survival rate, broken joint
3nd floor 66% survival rate, broken joint and mouth bleeding
4th floor 50% survival rate, broken joint mouth bleeding, broken ribs
5th floor 45% survival rate, broke joint, mouth bleeding, broken ribs, paralisis
6th floor 40% survival rate, broken joint, mouth bleeding, broken ribs, paralisis, spine misalignment
7th floor 35% survival rate

youd think the number will eventually reach zero but an American whose parachute did not open survived 500m or 3km fall, i do not remember which one of the two it was, and no he did not hit water, he hit beach sand
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>>536152585
I've always thought the best method was to overdose on painkillers, then slit your wrists/arms just before jumping off a roof. 3-hit combo!
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>>536152585
in america we call the 1st floor the 2nd floor
because there's a floor beneath it
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>>536151796
get a pair of pliers with vde insulation (pic rel from knipex, only 20 euro) and use the resistor method to discharge it. You can also short it with your screwdriver but I wouldn't try that here. Make sure the resistor has the right ohms. I'm not a physics fag so I can't tell you the rest
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>>536152927
if youve watched, liveleak or kaotic, youd know the best way to kill yourself is to be a bodybuilder on steroids at a massive event, and to attempt to perform a cringe back flip to excite the audience and then fall on your head break your neck and die immediately leaving the audience in cringing to death
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>>536153275
ah its on youtube https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j5-tH4_ScjQ
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>>536146532
You can hang yourself on anything by having it on your throat and leaning to it with your body weight. The main difficulty is properly attaching the thing you're leaning against in a way that it won't allow you to lean out of the constriction when you pass out. So it has to continue to throttle you if you lean slightly to the side. If you pass out quietly on something attached to a frame like a door you're going to die for sure.

There are people who accidentally kill themselves while engaging in
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erotic_asphyxiation

The most based method of dying:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sokushinbutsu
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>>536152413
Kek, what are those potatonigger insults?

Anyways, I personally am not suicidal, I don't want to die, so if you forced me to choose between being tortured to death or falling into a neverending sleep, I wouldn't apply the same reasoning as someone who ostensibly wanted to kys himself. Someone who actually wants to die shouldn't really care too much about the way out, it just shows they're really a bullshitting pussy.

>>536152525
I never said I wanted a stressful way of dying. I don't want to die in the first place! With your ad hom you failed to answer the question, though, same as the mick before you. Maybe you should just kys after all.
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>>536153395
it is said that drowning is one of the most painful way to die, idk who and why they said it, but it is definitely least gatekept way, for example you might be dead 5 mins before you actually die, you never know whether you muscles will be endurant enough to take you to the shore, so its a gamble, but that makes it extremely non gatekept way of dying because you are dead 5 mins before you know it

its like life really, because in life you die 50 years before you know it

in drowning you die 5 mins before you know it
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>>536142508
Because it’s an escape from this hell.
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>>536153619
so what was your point? was it this?
> Why would a less stressful way of dying be so much better than a stressful way if you are going to be dead soon anyways?
do you really need an answer? are you stupid? there was also no ad hom, idiot.
do you really not want a pain and stress free way to die, even if its the end of you life?
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>>536142508
>Expecting government wanting their product to expire itself

No no anon, you're needed, just fucking wagie it up you faggot or else you'll get a worse punishment in life.
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>>536147969
>>536148565
Oh look at me, I'm such a faggot that I cannot bear to kill myself. I want the gubberment's approval to end my miserable existance? Wont someone think of the suicidal that just want support when ending it all.

I would tell you to kill yourself but I wouldn't want to come across as being pro-suicide. Either i'm a bot or alive, in which case, its strange to advocate for giving up when you're still breathing
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>>536154162
>do you really need an answer? are you stupid?
If not knowing the answer is being stupid, then you, being a not-stupid person, should be able to promptly provide an answer.

>there was also no ad hom, idiot.
Obviously there was - in the context of a theoretical question you started talking about my personal death and called me a nigger, to boot.

>do you really not want a pain and stress free way to die, even if its the end of you life?
It doesn't matter what I personally want out of a death process, because I don't *want* to die in the first place. I am wondering about the logic of someone who wants to die, to not exist. If he will die soon, and if that is his desired outcome, and if his terminal suffering (or pleasure) doesn't matter once he's dead, how can he still say that one way of suiciding is good and another is bad?

I am not asking as a gotcha, either. I just want to know what other people think about death, specifically about suicide.
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>>536155605
>if his terminal suffering (or pleasure) doesn't matter once he's dead, how can he still say that one way of suiciding is good and another is bad?
because, obviously, the getting there is not the same as being there. its almost like you're not even a real person.
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>>536155319
>I would tell you to kill yourself but I wouldn't want to come across as being pro-suicide.

Yeah that's what it looks like. So which is it? Do you want him to suicide or not?
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>>536142508
There is legitimate, definite Evil in the world and they have taken advantage of people's trust, virtues and goodness to gain control.

Almost every government in the world is compromised by a group running a fear and torture program out of vitriolic hatred for themselves, the world, and God.

"If God doesn't stop me from doing this, he doesn't exist!" is one such excuse these people employ. I'm not religious, but they seem to conveniently forget that being given free will means you're allowed to do evil and you're trusted not to.

We could very easily have heaven on earth, but folks with brain parasites just can't let that happen I suppose.
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>>536142508
They want retards to demand that the government is heavily involved with suicide so they an kill their subjects on a whim like in canada.
>I can't kill myself, I'll get in trouble!
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>>536156017
definitely. it becomes just a matter of paperwork.
niggers dont realize this because they, deep down, trust their holy government. they dont really mistrust it.
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>>536142508
>99% of successful suicide attempts are done by hanging
>this faggot cries about how expensive killing yourself is
>he ignores the least expensive method
Just admit that this is a psyop thread to get young, impressionable people to actively perseverate about suicide.
Literal fucking non-issue.
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>>536156802
>perseverate
could be. i hope not. mostly itt ive been fucking around, though the idea had occurred to me more than once. i dont because of my parents.
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>>536157079
>4chan is blocked in Russia
>English is suspiciously on point
>focusing on generating discussion about suicide
>/pol/ is best known for being a glownigger psyop testing ground
>psyops work best on young folks
>this thread has zero true purpose to exist because google is a thing unless the purpose is to actively cause others to perseverate, ruminate, and eventually follow through
I'd put money on it. Always call out bullshit when you see it. Sage all psyop threads.
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>>536142508
Pick your favorite.
https://lostallhope.com/suicide-methods/statistics-most-lethal-methods/
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>>536142508
Just use carbon monoxide and embrace eternal sleep.
It's the easiest and most painless death and you can literally drink yourself to death.

https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/A-suicide-using-a-homemade-carbon-monoxide-%22death-Prahlow-Doyle/503f9014cfab8cfd0fea947c90af62894200b951
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>>536142508
It’s illegal to murder even if the victim is yourself. You also damage people who loved you unless you were someone who wasn’t loved by anyone.
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>>536142508
Suicide is irrational, 90% of the time it boils down to some subtle desire to "Reset" like a video game and not an actual desire to cease to exist.
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>>536155748
In this case, what does it matter how you get there though? When you get where you literally want to be, i.e. dead, it doesn't. Death is the one outcome where it doesn't matter how you got there. So if someone wants to die, they want an outcome where it doesn't matter how they got the outcome (and they want it *as such* an outcome). Therefore it is odd for them, in the context of how they desire this outcome, to say that one way of getting there is bad and another is good.
>"That's a good/bad way of getting the outcome where it doesn't matter how you got the outcome."
Are you too low IQ to see the issue?
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>>536158584
>what does it matter how you get there though?
because pain is bad
>Death is the one outcome where it doesn't matter how you got there
so wrong my friend.
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>>536142508
>>536143173
>>536145425
99.9999% of my sperm are finna suicide inside her iykwim
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>>536160581
at least you were prepared for this
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>>536142508
>all nations intentionally try to make suicide so difficult
you what nigger? knife in jugular and you dead like in 10 sec
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>>536142508
Don't do it anon
You probably lack sun, which can make you feel very bad
Get some high strength vit D pills, every day
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>>536162052
that wouldnt hurt at all
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>>536146807
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>>536142508
Goys are slaves, all easy exits from the slave farms shall be blocked
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>>536143337
I unironically don't want to disappoint parents
My mom is nearly 75 and my cat is turning twelve next month. Once both of them are dead I have no reason to live. Divorced after only 8 months of marriage, living in the basement, unemployed for two years. I can't stand hearing from her every day how much of a fucking failure my life is. Igi, anon
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>>536162793
Forgot to
>green text
You
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>>536157478
>4chan is blocked in Russia
Since when? I was there on holidays in 2020 and it worked, this shithole is way to irrelevant to block.
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Heroin
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>>536142508
God I wanna suck on Fern's nipples so fucking bad.
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>>536144510
Spend all your money on a cheap chinese drone and make homemade explosives then fly it into government goons retard.

If you'll live, you'll have a better life. If you die, you'll die based.
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>>536142508
Huh? Just let a train cut off your head, Indian style? It's not going to brake in time. High voltage power lines work great, too. No, you won't accidentally survive a 100000V shock with thousands of Amperes.
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>>536142508
Just ask a hohol to drone you lmao
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>>536142508
>>536167023
Also Nitrogen.
>buy bottle and oxygen mask
>inhale
>congrats, ur ded
And there are other gases if you absolutely need to make 1000% sure instead of 100%.
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>>536142508
Because they don't want you to die because they need people to keep everything running. Even if you aren't productive yourself, you killing yourself could feasibly make the people around you less productive or worse, consider killing themselves. The state has an intrinsic interest in not making suicide any more enticing or accessible than it otherwise would be.
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>>536167023
>>536167123
why so complicated?
>get a hose put one end into the cars interior
>put hose in exhaust of car and duct tape that shit
>get into car
>start engine
>die
painfree, simple and easy.
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>>536167071
kek I mean yeah, if you have some time to spare sign a contract for frontline duty and do a fortnight dance in front of the trench.
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>>536142508
feet
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>>536167175
That works too, but can be interrupted by someone more easily, so best do it inside the garage. Good idea to max out the carbon monoxide production, since that's what's gonna irreversibly kill you once you've inhaled a good amount of it. It's irreversible.
Also not that hard to improvise cyanide, which works much the same.
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>>536167351
>german expert on cyanide
fascinating, a genuine modern specimen
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>>536142508
Most people they want to keep alive so they can steel their life force
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>>536146359
Some 28yo brownoid offered her drugs and she said yes.
Nothing of value was lost.
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>>536145425
Don't we all?
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>>536142590
Literally they give you enough morphine when they deem you terminal
Every single hospital
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>>536144510
Russia has some of the sexiest women in the world and you're complaining? Good grief. If you were Indian I could understand and support offing yourself.
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>>536146966
I once dated a nice Irish lass from New Mexico, her late husband suicided because he had some kind of permanent pain situation going on after his mrap was IED-ed in Afghanistan and she came home to Australia. She said he tried cutting his wrists but it didn't work fast enough, so he tried roping but his hands couldn't tie the rope now like Constantine, so he set the stove on and lay down on it and didn't move until he died.

She was a decent lay and gave stellar head but when we fucked on the anniversary of his death, she felt all guilty and broke it off..memonto mori I guess
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>>536169646
She was clearly young and on a bad path. I don't understand how people can be so cruel. She was basically set up for failure by her parents and the people in her life who didn't steer her towards better decisions.
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>>536143966
Are they actually feeling the frying?
I always assumed those were instant deaths that only looked slow
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>pol cant agree on which kind of salad topping is "White enough"
>anything political turns into irrelevant no you're a kike fingerpointing
>russian asks how to kill himself
>200 high quality, infomative responses
kek, i love you fucking bastards
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>>536142508
Mine doesn't. You just buy a gun
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>>536142508
>>536142865
>Honestly, I'm kind of a pussy
and theres the actual truth, if you actually wanted to be rid of your life, you could jump off a tall building headfirst into concrete for a death faster then you can perceive trivially easily, which you wont do, because you dont actually want to die, whiny bitch
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>>536142508
im not going to chek whole thread

but anyone wanting to kys for free and no pain
just research goddam "exit bags", dont expect govs to build you a suicide booth
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>>536174529
no thanks, a gun is way more effecient.
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>>536142508
Governments invest a lot of money in children. In the US it's something like $1.8M per kid, by the time you're 18. They expect to get a return on investment through you working and paying taxes, as well as having the next generation of children and tax payers. You dying prematurely loses them money.
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>>536151545
Is your family at least normal/nice?
Also if you want to kys, I would suggest alcohol. Its slow, but its a man's death.
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>>536142508
Join the special military operation, the Kiev will fall in two weeks, be part of POBIEDA
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>>536142508
>Waaaaaah the government won't let me kill myself. Waaaaaaah.
You can't kill yourself. The demiurge requires your misery for sustenance. If you kill yourself he will be hungee. Also if the government can prevent you from killing yourself its because you just don't want to bad enough.
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>>536174529
>>536175028
jumping is more reliable than both, as long as you actually jump
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>>536142508
Just walk in alaska and the US once libs come in power. When the water freezes you can directly go there from siberia.
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>>536152204
Why wouldn’t you just do that yourself, don’t give somebody the satisfaction. All the fun is getting to press the trigger after psyching yourself up.
That’s the ideal method besides a massive shot of H
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>>536142508
>Why the fuck do governments in nearly all nations intentionally try to make suicide so difficult
because its just a phase, you will grow out of it, like trans kids, just that in that case the government wants to hormonize you before you grow out of it hehe
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>>536142508
Because they consider you their property
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>>536142508
it takes only 3 seconds for an object to fall 200 feet. terminal velocity of ~200 kmh is achieved in 12 seconds at minimum height of 450 meters

alternatively there is heroin
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>>536142508
Killing yourself is cheap and easy. Some tubing, a mask, and a tank of helium is all you need and it's like 60 bucks and painless. You're just too much of a pussy to do it yourself.
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>>536144012
opiates or benzos. opiate OD is not pleasant though unless you take enough of the right drugs to immediately incapacitate yourself
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>>536142508
>any other alternative to die quickly and painlessly
Canada does.
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>>536142508
Can't have their cattle killing themselves.
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No one should kill themselves, but everyone should have a painless, fast, and easy death.
Carbon monoxide. You can buy charcoal brocades and grill inside, or just idle your car inside the garage.

Personally I would recommend just going zen. You'll die eventually, don't worry about it.
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>>536179262
Let me tell you, when you do it right - or any time you OD.. you don’t even remember fighting for consciousness.

You’re bathing in comfort and euphoria & then nothing, wake up in weird places or positions with a kink in your neck

Done it a few times
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>>536142508
Why do you need the government's help or permission to kys?
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>>536167351
Just need to correct this possible misunderstanding. Carbon monoxide itself isn't poisonous, at least not really. It displaces oxygen that you need (whereas carbon dioxide, i.e. exhale, also replaces it, but the body has an inbuilt panic response that carbon monoxide bypasses). What this means is, you inhale a SHIT TON of carbon monoxide, but then at the end you get normal oxygen because the door opens or whatever, you won't die, and your body will eventually diffuse it and return to normal. You can repeat this for essentially no ill effects, for the most part. It's not the breathing it in that kills you, it's the lack of oxygen which is a side effect of breathing this in (because you're not otherwise breathing in said oxygen).
And cyanide kills entirely differently.
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>>536179825
I'm saying that they should not try to prevent it
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>>536179444
This, just go to Singh Hortons
Get you a deal of hepatitis A, free euthanasia referral and a free ride to the hospital
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>>536142865
Nigga just jump off a mountain
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suicide is really easy. you just have to attack the white american nazi gas chamber police.

they use special locking mechanisms on their pistol holsters that work differently so that you wont know how to unlock their pistols unless you train the right way or the pistol will lock and they will kill you. It's better to bash the white american nazi gas chamber police on the head with a brick first and THEN take their pistol from them.
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>>536142508
canada. but go ahead, kek yourself if you want your gov to sell your organs to Xi the Pooh. i might even clap for u.

https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/2023/january/canadas-govt-assisted-suicide-program-leads-the-world-in-harvesting-live-organs
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>>536183492
>leads the world in harvesting live organs
oops missed that part, in communist canada, they don't even wait for you to die before pulling out all your fresh organs!
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>>536142508
if you are white, dont do it. world is gonna be interesting place soon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvU89au9rVY&list=RDBvU89au9rVY&index=1
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then again...
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massive opiate OD (100 or 200 times the usual dosage) + antiemetic + other sedatives

get telegram, look around, stay safe
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They see suicide as the shortcut out of hell when you don't have to hustle for pennies, be buck broken and doesn't produce more slaves for the next generation of dictators to whip around and laugh at..
So of course they'll do anything they can to stop you from escaping the literal bible depiction of HELL!



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