Why is no one mentioning the testosterone decline that has been happening for 60 years? How can we fix this? Or is it already over and we are in a countdown?Chemicals in the diet seem to be the #1 cause of this, but how is society going to look like in 20 years when most normal-testosterone males die out?pic related is actor Sean Connery and his grandson, Dashiell Connery. Staggering difference..
Some more comparison, 60 years apart. 2 generations of chemical damage
>>536766854Estimated 1100ng/dL to low 400s to 300s ng/dL, 70-80% drop of total testosterone concentration.This also seems to follow one's fertility, so likely 10-50x more likely to be infertile, develop cancers, illnesses etc.
>>536766812Sean is also literally 29 there, looking 45. Is that what you want?
>>536766966give him a suit and a haircut and he will also look decent.
Frankly this threat is totally bullshit and here's why...
>>536767071And a toupée.
>>536767124wtf is this movie lmao??
>>536767124Love that movie, unironically. No homo!
>>536766812But Sean Connery was bald and wearing a toupee when he started playing Bond, and /pol/ told me that only low test söycucks go bald
>>536767260Only high test people go bald you dumbass. Or rather those who have high DHT, a metabolite of testosterone.
I really wonder what people here think our civilization is going to be in 40-70 years from now. To me it seems that the "party" is over and that easy times will gradually stop soon, I mean it took thousands of years for globalization to finally develop and obviously there were going to be some cons that had to be ignored.. but I struggle to think that some "elites" planned our own self destruction through chemical pollution. I tend to believe more that we just ignored possibilities and hoped for the best, yet this didn't work out.But at this point where we've come to build AI that can literally replace 99% of humans in "thinking" jobs, other than robots, what's there to build left for us? And again, this took thousands of years of struggles to coordinate and bring to life..If it wasn't for our own chemical castration, which in my opinion could have definitely been avoided at the cost of a less explosive agricultural expansion, I would honestly be very optimistic about the future but now I can't seem to find any sort of solution other than the eventual fertility decline, which will slowly bleed out our civilization and at some point bring to a complete change and restructure. Ironically, it seems that the IQ meme chart might be right, the only healthy people remaining in the world are 50 iq niggers in remote africa and 150 iq billionaires building bunkers and buying farmland in New Zealand. The rest won't pass the filter
>>536766812We are low test because of a multitude of reasons. We eat sugary slop, we don't go out into the sun, our environment is polluted with phytoestrogens - from the food we eat to the pans we cook out slop on, to the tech we touch everyday.
>>536767313WRONGThe secret truth is that a bald person is both high test and low test simultaneously until /pol/ decides whether they like them or not
People didn't know nor give a fuck about protecting their skin back then. The sun and cigarettes aged them quickly
>>536767124Meanwhile even modern comedic actors are supposed to get jacked for roles.
>>536767260this is him at 23 before movies. Balding in 1960s meant that in your 30s you started norwood 1 lmao. Now find me a white 23 year old nowadays with this hairline and bone structure KEK
>>536767435Another retarded idiot who needs /pol/ to think for them. You are the most pathetic vermin on this planet. You would say the earth is flat if enough disinfo shills spam that shit.
>>536767445yet his skin is glowing and he looks much healthier and strong than his grandson who uses sunscreen and doesn't smoke? it's like something doesn't add up here, jon
>>536767234Sardoz. Unwatchable frankly unless you're some super cynical depraved John Walters fan and you like seeing Diving eating doggie poop on the silver screen.https://youtu.be/b0to3ZNovRw
>>536767626It's alright imo. Doesn't deserve the hate it gets. Ending is kino and it has more tits than an American Horror thriller, what's not to like?
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>>536767674The seventies were a mistake. Perhaps PTSD from the insanely traumatic 60's.
>>536766812Well I'm trying not to jack off anymore so there's a start. Isn't there some study that shows if you don't coom for 7 days your test spikes? I could use a test spike.
>>536767851Yeah but after that it drops like a rock if you don't coom.
>>536766812>How can we fix this?Fix obesity.I know you fags love to go on about estrogen in the water and onions products but obesity is responsible for ~75% of surplos estrogen in male bodies.A lean man can drink 2L of basedmilk a day and will still have less estrogen than a fattie.Mostly because plant based estrogen doesn't get absorbed while being fat increases your own body's estrogen production.
>>536766812Grandfather breathed cigarette smoke everywhere from the day he was born, and spent lots of time outside in the sun with no sunscreen. Presumably did a good amount of physical work as well. Also dressed better and didn't have a dumb haircut.Of course some of it is just genetics. He's only got 25% of his grandfather's DNA.
Testosterone is available over the counter in Mexico. You could just get some and smuggle it back home. TRT.
Because the long term goal is to turn us into the Grey aliens.Translucent skin pigmentation and oversized eyes mean lack of sunlight. Completely hairless. No secondary sexual characteristics, dimporphism, or distinguishing reproductive organs separate the genders. Oversized cranium mean genetic manipulation to increase intelligence. This is the end goal of our own hubristic desire to control our own evolutionary fate. They're not visitors from another world; its us from another timeline trying to salvage what functional DNA is left to save our dead and dying genetic species.
>>536768316but anon, dashiell is not fat. The obesity thing is sort of a meme, sure obese people have less hormones than what they would have. But why are they obese in the first place? Again, 60 years ago being fat was weird, and sure, there was no abundance of food as there is now. But the only thing causing the obesity is the food that we eat and the chemicals inside of it.But yeah, not being fat makes you have better testosterone but doesn't fix the crisis we are going through now.>>536768652but we are actually doing the opposite since we will become infertile lol
>>536766812>sugar based diet lowers testosterone>dietary fats are essential for healthy hormone levels>diets low in fat lower testosterone>HEY GOY STOP EATING ALL THAT SATURATED FATS, REPLACE THE FAT CALORIES WITH SUGAR!>HERE GOY HAVE THIS LOW FAT ALTERNATIVE>Generational testosterone decline>Why is no one mentioning the testosterone decline that has been happening for 60 years? >How can we fix this? gee idk man its a fucking mystery
>>536767340When the fuck did the easy times happen for fucks sake? It's been downhill my entire life so far. Cube all boomers, drowning, no mercy kills.
North America and some of Europe are being destroyed from within. Total and absolute physical and psychological warfare, and I mean absolute.The work is almost complete lf whoever undertook it.
the species is doomed by fagshttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FgxacX72snA&ra=m
>>536766812The chemicals certainly play a factor, but they're not the primary cause. They're the low hanging fruit you want to believe because then you don't have the face the harsh reality that it's mainly because of the comfortable sedentary and high stress, high cortisol, lifestyle. Want to increase your T? Go do manual labor and ditch social media. Kinda difficult to do that and live comfortably, innit?
Humans were already neotenous compared to neanderthals, we simply came to find it more attractive over time.
>>536766812Lift heavy shit, eat/sleep well, nofap, get sunshine, and compete at something with other guys. Theres probably some chemical factors, but sitting indoors like a woman all day is definitely the main reason guys have less test than previous generations.
>>5367695001960s to early 2000s was the easiest time in history compared to what the standard was earlier. In which other time period could you become wealthy/powerful in such short amount of time with so little effort?
>>536769988>Should've become rich while learning to walk across the living roomTBD
>>536769721I believe the opposite, chemicals are the #1 driving factor and the rest is all cope and just consequences.. "go do manual labour" is a foolish way to see this. The lowering of our health basis and so of our average testosterone level is leading us to live as a civilization, a more comfortable life. As a weaker being does not seek discomfort/danger for the sake of its own survival.
>>536766812one step closer to the dom matriarchy where women approach (YOU)
>>536766854>>536766966basically the only difference besides looking older is jaw and maxilla width
>>536770214there's still a window but it's narrowing down fast, also it's not about you and me. whole world is in this state lol. but right now we are probably at the easiest point to be unemployed and earn some money easily
>>536770554>the easiest point to be unemployed and earn some money easilyGo on.
Test is increasing
>>536770600stock market and crypto events, online nieche business. not to become "rich", but to make a living. very easy
>>536770534>basically the only difference is the entire skeleto--muscular structural developmentyes..
>>536770790>just become hyper jew, goyMeh.
>>536767124Metal gear solid movie looking rad
>>536766812my guess is high sugar diets causes endocrine system changes. and also the usual suspects with endocrine disruptors in everythingmy diet is very high carb and im on testosterone, i look pretty similar to his grandson. i have a free test level thats more than 2x a high T person but my DHT is just barely averageif i had to guess its not directly test that makes you look older but the DHT
>>536766812A contributing factor is not just chemical/industrial pollution but the increasingly sedentary lifestyle of most people. True men are carved from hardship. Without arduous lives, men become soft and vaginal. This is why so many troons are gamers.
>>536769936>Lift heavy shit, eat/sleep well, nofap, get sunshine, and compete at something with other guys.literally. though i spend all day indoors due to wfh and no friends i do lift etc and eat very healthily, no phone and i look like an actual man not some strange twink. i think the fact im naturally broad shouldered and hairy helps. still can't get laid as face ugly af of course kek
>>536766812MicroplasticsLowered mineral and nutrient density even in healthy food (soil degradation)Animal products people eat now only include pasteurized, low-fat milk and bone meat instead of broths and organs, and often it is just dogshit chicken breastAnimals are fed antibiotics, eat dogshit sprayed with pesticides and take antibiotics like candy because they are cooped up in a concentration camp -> less healthy, less nutritious foodUltraprocessed “food” and junk “food”Seed oils taking over animal fatsChemicals, pesticidesLow activityLow vitamin D from being insideBad sleep habits (everyone is on their phone blasted with blue light, go to bed late…)
>>536771304This. The west is full of faggots that have barely done a sport or hard, high intensity, training growing up, which is exactly what produces the highest spikes in testosterone.
>>536770344Of course you do. That's because it's easy to believe it's just the diet. Who doesn't like eating? But although the diet does in fact play a role, the xenoestrogens and so on, it's not the primary driving factor, as I already said. You have to be physically active for most of the day if you want high T. No, an hour or two at the gym isn't enough. 12 hours per day, every day. You use it or you lose it. Being active and competing at various things is how you get naturally high T because your body starts producing more due to the increased demand. You're not a primate. You don't naturally get huge muscles and high T from just eating plants, nuts, bugs, and fruits. Humans are naturally hyper adaptable to the environment and all kinds of situations. And because of that the body changes what it does depending on what it needs. If you don't need high T in your daily life, you won't get it. It isn't automatic either. You need to work for it. It's directly tied to physical activity, muscle mass, and competitiveness or positive stress, not the negative kind which increases your cortisol and directly antagonizes testosterone. You can change your diet to whatever the fuck you want but you'll see only a small increase. Nothing significant. It's why all of the serious bodybuilders take steroids. They realize that the diet isn't enough and they're not crazy to spend 12 hours at the gym. It has to be a physical lifestyle where you're constantly active.
>>536772096well Ivan, the "diet" is a very generalized statement, that can easily be misunderstood. You see, the food we eat now is definitely bad for us, but it has been for 50+ years in the majority of 1st world countries. I would say russia is definitely a bit behind here, but still the conclusion is the same.In the first generation it is bad but most of the consequences are after decades of exposure, but later generations that are exposed from birth (to endocrine disruptors) fundamentally form and develop in a different way. think of it as a factory that produces cars and needs 1000kg of metal and a v4 4L engine for each. One day they receive only 600kg and a v2 1.5L engine, they are told to make a car. They succeed but the car is slower and weaker on average than before. Essentially, endocrine disruptors that mainly enter our body through food+drinks bypass the placenta filters and alter the normal endocrine development of the fetus, thus leading in males for example, in shorter agd (ano genital distance), which predicts the testosterone level of the soon to be man.So, yeah, what you are saying is that you need to "optimize" testosterone, and individually I agree. But you will see it better in young guys now, that we have been chemically castrated to an extent at birth, so our normal baseline fell about 50-60% in 50-60 years, about 1%/yr. And no matter what kind of stress is put on the system, the natural production is limited by the baseline.So you could put 1m 20 year olds from year 1950s and make them do the exact manual labour as 1m 20 year olds from today and still, there would be a massive gap in terms of raw number. Then again it depends as some more industrialized zones have been polluted even more because of weak legislations that didn't inherently prohibit releasing edcs in rivers or aquedact water. So the more isolated your parents were from this and the less goyslop they consumed directly relates to how exposed you were to this.
>>536774490to continue, less baseline testosterone means less energy and less risk-averness. And again, if you take 2 groups of 20yo men, and one has a baseline of 400ng/dL and the other of 1000ng/dL the change in physicality, energy, libido will be staggering. One group will be less risk averse and the other more. And at the same time it will be much more unlikely that group B ever becomes lazy or does not train, as having a stronger body with more baseline energy also means wanting to cultivate that energy and expend it through sports. On the other end, the weaker group will much more likely want to relax and find comfort, possibly finding interest in less physical sports.But this whole ordeal is just unnatural and because of chemicals.
>>536769625I don't think anyone meant to blast endocrine disruptors all over tarnation. This is hurting the elite, too.
>>536766812>>536766854>>536766966Connery is wearing a toupee in all of those pictures
>>536766812Boomers had the easiest run in history and confuse being an alcoholic with being tough.
