>>537725603My wife is rich and I am not. Cope.
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>>537725516The same people will cry if a man has a surrogate or if he goes for a younger woman. I am leaving
That's a whole lot of words to just say "the muslims won"
>>537725516It's funny how studies consistently validate what MGTOW and incels have been saying for what, 15 / 20 years now? You're doing god's work, fascinating that they have to recognize it in scientific terms. Have bump good sir.
>>537728944Kill yourself
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>>537729172No u
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>>537729089This is exactly why they should have stabbed the cunts who were handing out white feathers.
>>537728944Incels won
>>537725516>>537729536>>537729447
>>537725516Funny how they almost ended up connecting the dots but instead doubled down on their retarded ideas.
>>537725516Aristophanes and every failed civilisation on earth just simultaeously turned in their graves.
>>537729920You are the problem.
>>537729920Don’t forget that academics are pusswhipped basedboys. They can’t frame anything as inherently harmful.
>>537726189>feminism risks becoming one of humanity’s gravest mistakes: a noble project of emancipation that unwittingly dooms history’s most advanced civilization to demographic extinctionKEK>>537728114Also this
>>537729661This. The only issue I have in the paper is the repeated use of the term "High-value" . The men they end up with are not high value by any meaningful definition of the term. they even let it slip in one of the paragraphs and instead of using low value they used least "Sought - after">>537725889Sought-after doe snot equal high value and "attractiveness" which changes over time, does not mean good genes. This is a fatal error even the "scientists" in this study make over and over again. To determine "good genes" You need a solid objective definition of what good genes are (presumably health, lack of disease, intelligence and strength) you need a battery of blood tests and genetic disease screening. Good genes is more than a low body fat % and a jawline. In other words, they keep trying to make it as though women have some kind of "good gene" radar. They don't. Fisherman runaway is a real phenomena. They get with criminals and drug addicts. They fuck short and fat guys who have access to drugs and parties. High- value really means popular and extroverted.There are many men with objectively better genes (less aggression-which they identify as being positive for growth of the human population here >>537725771higher IQ, more impulse control, height to some extent, less so in the age of the gun, hygiene, temperament, less disease, more resources) who are excluded from mating due to not being extroverted or popular and what is considered popular, desired, or "sought-after" is programmed. Female choice IS NOT EUGENIC. It is dysgenic at best and they even let it slip when they talked about how arranged marriages led to more optimal genetic outcomes >>537726233
>>537725695lmao, more incels raised by single moms and more criminals. Great solution. Holy fuck just take womens rights away ffs. They dont deserve them in the first place now we see the fruits of the experiment
>>537725516Only artificial wombs can save us at this point.
It's impossible to enslave all men. It is however, very easy to enslave women and we have done this for thousands of years with extraordinary results. It's almost as if enslaving women is the natural and optimal way to maximize human reproduction.
>>537731262That's what half of this study argues in favour of. Anything to avoid saying women's rights are the problem.
>>537731616Oh, but they're indirectly saying it see >>537726189>feminism risks becoming one of humanity’s gravest mistakes: a noble project of emancipation that unwittingly dooms history’s most advanced civilization to demographic extinctionSo it’s more about trying every dystopian measure possible without ever resorting to revoking women’s rights.>spoilerIt won’t work. Muslims will outbreed you and establish their views as the norm.
Yea all of this is horseshit that will become irrelevant when sexbots and artificial wombs become reality. Those two techs will plunge female smv into the abyss, they’ll try to ban it but wont for long.
>>537725516>almost all woman still want to reproduce No duh its their biology but its been repressed by woman's suffrage, feminism, birth control and hoeflation. Marginalized men anymore and they'll flip the table ans reset the game
Women need to be enslaved, or 99.9% of the human population wiped out at random to completely fix thisThe hypergamy females have built upon the west is the complete and utter annihilation of humanity. Women need to be brought to their knees
>>537732575No animal in the world wants to reproduce, it's something hat just happens incidentally due to sex. Humans are the only animal that knows that creampies lead to pregnancies.
Warning to all lurkers:Piping hot anti-womanic rage is a natural, and justified response to the article. But! Do not take the false path, the path of least resistance offered by MGTOW/wizards/homosexuals (all intrinsically linked (don't ask how I know))Woman is the other half of the divine creation. You MUST not amputate her like a gangrenous member. Struggle. Channel the male character, that of the builder, the shepherd, and help her climb down from the ledge and rejoin the great fight against entropy, material and spiritual.
OP intentionally left out the ending of the study which outright said if women don't start breeding them feminism is the worst mistake in the history of the world, and future women will not have any rights because it has proven destructive on a global scale.
This paper almost feels like it was written by a deep undercover chud trying to subtly sabotage feminism/liberalism
>>537725731Rome had a bachelor tax
It wouldn't help anyway. Women would just take the new income extracted out of men and go travel and buy more shit. Most still aren't going to want to raise children, especially on their own.I do appreciate the paper's recognition that populations from Africa and the Middle East are going to roll back feminism once they demographically replace everyone in the West.
>>537725695>post-automation futurelol, "AI will solve fertility"lmaohow? by making 50% of the population unemployed?
>>537732390Perfect body type
>>537733893This existence of a marital tax break already implies there's a bachelor's tax by default.
Fucks sake. JUST LET THE POPULATION GO DOWN. If people aren't breeding, that's fine. We can let the population go down to half or a quarter of what it is now.
>>537725731>womb technologyFUCKING LOLIt's a fucking checklist of every pipe dream technocratic solution to the fertility problem. First "AI will solve the economy" now "we will have artificial wombs so women won't have to get pregnant".Even if artificial wombs were ready for reproduction TODAY it wouldn't solve the demographic collapse that is coming
>>537730822There is NO, and again I repeat NO:>GREATER MALE HEIGHT HYPOTHESIS Nature, The Lord God, NEVER EVER SELECTED for greater male height. It never happened. Nature Selects Little Men.Satanists FEEEL (ideologically) that they know better than The Lord God, and defer to the female gaze as the supreme truth. At the same time as you say that female preference is purely the tesult of propaganda. Still, you think Giants are more deserving of Love than Little Boys and Men. Why? Because of MURDER AND CANNIBALISM AND INFANTICIDE is justified through the self same:Moral Relativism, Service To Self Materialist Hierarchicalism, and Soicalized Darwinianisms.All of history is Little Men DESTROYING the hybrid Giants that Women tried to cuck THE LORD GOD by. But you want more of your body that dies and the soiciet organized pyramidally by stature idolatry and psychopathy violence bluffing, becauase these are what are the height of the expression of Logos, right. This is what you are arguing by merely stating that short is toxic in the same manner that the fat are literally toxic. Good luck, idolaters!
Historically, 28% of men have reproduced, while 89% of women have.Today, we got that up to like 65% of men. But that's like a huge abberration in historic terms. Realistically that 28% of fit men is your breeding stock males. The rest are just for war or work or something
>>537734505ok. it will go down to 0%.
>>537725516>Implement laws which destroy the meaning of marriage and turn it into a laughable contract that destroys the lives of men to make Jewish law firms rich.>Encourage women to be sluts for a century.>Create dating apps that capitalize on people being single by matching women with pump and dump males>Remove economic opportunities and advancement for young men.>Import infinity shit skins making it economically impossible to make a family....>We need more laws against men being single!These people can't run a society in any meaningful way.You made laws and economic policies which made family planning and marriage into a game of money grabbing Jewish losers.And your solution? Remove the destructive policies? NOOOOO. We need to make it even worse by adding more laws while not reversing the previous damages!I'm convinced that all societies end in retarded laws that are never undone that end up becoming so corrosive to society that people stop giving a fuck and end up in a civil war.
Women's flagrant chadsexuality has permanently destroyed gender relations. There's no coming back from this. It's over.
>>537734511Artificial wombs will allow men to have children without needing a woman. They can marry a robot instead.
>>537734457What the paper puts forward is not just the Rome-style bachelor tax though, the suggestion here to to fund a massive income pool for all women, even ones who don't have any kids. Their theory is that all women (even ones who are childless) collectively having access to all of men's income would make them more willing to individually reproduce, and also to provide them enough income if need to be to allow them the option of being a full-time single mother and not have to work if they don't want to (and provide socialized "it takes a tribe" services to ones who do want to work).
>>537734856Artificial wombs do not exist, and there is no sign of them coming into existence in the foreseeable future. Demographic collapse is already in motion. If this tech ever gets off the ground (which I doubt) it will arrive too late.
>>537734505If population go down then infinite growth stop though :(
>>537734713Hypergamy was always a thing. The invention of the smart phone and social media basically turned the local chad in her neighborhood to being part of a chad harem globally. This completely unleashed a caustic set of destruction on society like nothing else alone with birth control.Will they reverse this? NOOOOO we want to make it even worse by taking away money from men who aren't global chad.
>>537725516What a shit thread
>>537734958We can have some shrinkage.
>>537734505There are really not that many real incarnated people. Bugs are bugs. If they move like bugs, they are a bugs. Again, there really are not that many real individuals because the world is perhaps the greatest little g god trap ever designed. Ye are Elohim. You're an incarnate god with a body that dies, and it needs to be longer for you to be socially viable. Is it IRRATIONAL for a god to choose to be a Little Man? To women it is! To demoralized Men, it is! What would an actual body-hopping baby eating Satanist think about Stature Idolatry as the principle organizing factor of her life? Lol. Lay Satanist MOST BELOVED PERFORMANCE is framing Stature Idolatry as Misandrist Heightism as Natural. When the record bears no such conclusion but the opposite. Where are all the CLAIRVOYANT MURDEROUS CANNIBAL GIANTS that are so naturally superior as the predator of Man? HUH? DID INDIOS LITERALLY ERASE THE NEPHILIM SIZED HYBRIDS?You think they might be a little salty about losing?
>>537726322>23 pbtidor you could've greentexted a few paragraphs and posted link newfag
>>537730638More like they know their paper will never be published if they don't wring their hands and demand the enslavement of men rather than roll back women's rights.
>>537725516great work
>>537734907Its an aytempt of having your cake and eat it too. They want the insane female consumer habits while somehow increasing the birth rate. Both are incompatible. You can't have mega consumption with proper families.But its not just feminism and contraception which is aiding this crisis, it is welfare. Cut off welfare, remove contraception, remove rights of women and make society as it was (Male provides, female nurtures) you got the problem solved.Its just the unholy obsession with unlimited economic growth has us as a crossroad. Or at least those in power.
>>537734994I find the paper fascinating.It's amusing to see liberal academics acknowledge that where we have put things is civilizationally suicidal and that if it continues on its current course then that means that third world cultures that marginalize women will rise up and undo all their beloved progress. And suggest these batshit technocratic solutions that will obviously never work.
>>537725516Women need to be stripped of their rights for the survival of human civilization.
>>537725516they already incentivize women to be single moms instead of childless. It's called welfare.
>>537734969 Women only saw the 100 men in their tribe their whole lives, for all of history.
>>537735324The paper is the absolute limit of what a liberal can admit to, because it leads to, as they put it, "uncomfortable places". Which is why they talk about artificial wombs and "post-automation society" as solutions to the problem. It's desperation. The even mention how "marginalized men" are a destabilizing social force and will only worsen over time if nothing is done to address their concerns.
>>537735052But think of the poor shareholders! How are they supposed to keep flying out to a Mossad agent island to sleep with minors and get blackmailed there? Have you thought of the poor shareholders?
>>537735324They do agree that the existing structure that gives women endless freedoms is completely destructive to a functional society.But their solution instead of removing the problem is to enslave men because for some reason we need to be fine with women being complete retards spreading their legs endlessly each weekend, being creampied by random males, using social media to flaunt their sexual status and in general having zero regard for the future of their country.Somehow that's supposed to be a solution. Think about how retarded that is for one moment, and we can see why they want to cut off our access to the Internet. They'd rather the world burn for their ideology than embrace reality.
The only thing that will happen if there's a bachelor tax or if men are even further marginilized is it will push people who already have nothing to lose to some kind of action. There's no good outcome here either way. Either birth rates continue to fall or you further destabilize society in a different way.
>>537733487And what about animals that reproduce without sex?
>>537735358It's not that. There's something else going on. Hunter-gatherers tend to be relatively egalitarian, at least compared to something like 1950s America, let alone radical Islam, but the majority of their men still got to have sex.
u mean womenlolonce we can reproduceoh baby its ts fun 30 days a month
>>537725516The conclusions these retards make confirm the theory that we are under some sort of secret matriarchy that wants to enslave all men even more than before, but want to frame it as something that has to happen, or the only way it can happen. You can fix the birthrate issue with gov funded surrogates. Men that want to reproduce, but wont put up with a woman's bullshit can have kids and even the surrogates (women) would get paid. Women don't want children, and their choices prove that. Any woman that wants kids can get them now, with plenty of social services aid already. So it is men you have to look at that want to raise them alone, just like any woman could. Besides the men would be happy with a sexbot anyway.remember how South Korea was being run by a feminist-cult? its like that everywhere, only Trump somehow won when it was her turn. That might be what unironically saves the USA from feminist domination. It is like woman have some innate urge to undermine their society so a stronger one can take its place because they never had skin in the game. They just become the brides of the conquerers, and the low value women probably love that since they might improve their status.
>>537735576OK but also this is just how they are, this is how they've always been. So, can we really not come up with something better than "simply deny their nature?" I think we should let them go somewhere and starve eachother to death and build something masculine that actually makes sense elsewhere and just do a massive cull basically.
>>537735209>Its just the unholy obsession with unlimited economic growth has us as a crossroad. Or at least those in power.yes. the common people are caught between the greedy finance world and insane social engineers who would rather wreck civilization than put their failed experiment to an end.
>>537735875It's really funny if you go to the ask feminists subreddit's discussion of the paper because 90% of the comments just fixate on the title using the word "further" and don't even talk about the contents of the paper at all.
>>537733636Love your wives as Christ Loves His brideOr walk as paul and daniel both did, alone with God
>>537726189This is just desperate flailing. On an instinctual level women know how badly they've fucked up this time around; and the coming Muslim/Indian/Chinese demographic domination offers no place for them except as footstools.
>>537734398By forcing the mark of the beast, and when we get to the Kingdom of Jesus Christ in the aftermath of all that great tribulation, His kingdom is one of everlasting increase
social science is retarded everyone in that thread who pretend this is science is retarded >>537736173fuck off jonathan you insane retardJesus isn coming back
>>537736040They don't see it as marginalization. They think that 90% of men being sexless incel slaves for chad harems is the correct state of things, and anything else is evil and misogynistic.
>>537735742No it is that and we need to meme it into existence. There are no other solutions and time is running a bit short to naval gaze thinking up other ideas.
most girls are uglytake back white man moneyuglies have to be slavessimplekill all jew n boot orc too inc mik wophave king
>>537735971Well, much like the other myopic slop that is produced today by "Liberals", their solution always involves taking power for their selves, enslavement, censorship, and control.What we both know is that they will never change their adherence to their ideology and their complete destruction of the west. We know this because then they'd have to give up power that they fought tooth and nail to get.This is quite similar to Greece when Socrates was sentence to prison/death because of his teachings that didn't align with what the people in power wanted. Fundamentally there are people in this world that adhere to an ideology and are willing to kill for it when they have power in society.It seems the only realistic solution is total war with these people since they will not relinquish their power when faced with objective truths. War is the only language they truly understand.
is the solution Islam?
>>537736283There are likely no solutions, period. It's over. Take away women's rights and then what? 99% of men still don't want to be with a woman who isn't horny for him.
>>537736422No. >>537735742
>>537725516>in layman's termsIs /pol/ literally so dumb and illiterate you people can't read a scientific article?
>>537736634Why do all anons have to waste time reading a full paper when they can get notes from someone else that took snippets of excerpts? It's a waste of time if 1000 people need to read an entire book on something when 1 person can read a book and share the notes with 1000 people.
>>537725516>muh literal gender studies grievances published by cucked cambridge by raped nordic leftistsThat's nice, anon, but you gotta show flag.
>>537736422Islam will solve the birth rate crisis, but it won't solve the problem of marginalized men. It's the worst of both worlds for men and women. Women lose all their rights and freedoms and become domestic breeding stock for the most powerful men in society, the ones who own all the land and can afford to keep multiple wives and raise their many, many children.That means a lot of men are still deprived of sex or any opportunity to legally get it, or even to find relief in pornography or prostitution because such things are strictly policed in Islamic culture. Only the very rich get to flout those laws with impunity, and the way society is going, most people will be extremely poor and unemployed, and have few rights. This won't change under Islam.Think about it. Islamic cultures produce militant fundamentalist sects and terrorist groups like a garden grows weeds. Why? Because there's an abundance of frustrated young men with no purpose or direction in their society. It's easy for fundamentalist imams, Iran, or Mossad or whoever to recruit them into an ISIS or a Taliban or a Hezbollah or what have you. There's no shortage of men with no future and no prospects so there is an endless supply of willing jihadis. That's the future for America.
>>537729138Men build civilization, women destroy it
>>537725516So men become the breeding stumps? ZAMN
>>537736422It's not so much a "solution" as it is just an end state. The paper is 100% correct that if things continue in their current order then the fertility belt (which it defines as the 3rd world regions like Africa and the Middle East that actually have positive birth rates due to marginalizing women and having old world systems of reproduction like arranged marriage) will overtake western civilization, roll back women's rights, and will define feminism/female choice as a huge mistake that caused our downfall in their history books.
>>537736914The future outlined by this paper is half utopian pipe dream and half feminist power fantasy. It refuses to acknowledge the far more likely alternatives of incel uprisings or hostile cultures overtaking the native feminist culture of the US after demographic collapse sets in.
>>537736988If there's an incel uprising then it will be for state paid cosmetic surgery for those who are below average looking.
>>537725516How are they going to transfer resources from men who have absolutely no reason to gather resources? No women, men reluctantly go Nintendo. No Nintendo? Men go innawoods or innanoose assuming they don't an hero. It's funny how all these big ideas rest on trying to extract blood from a stone.
>>537736988Incel uprising is insanely unlikely. Your latter option is nearly a certainty. It's just Rome and the Germanics all over again.
>>537736968>Africa>history booksYou will see men reduced to slavery with "wages" that merely facilitate their continued existence and wager upon their fear of demise. No wives, those will funnel into a very privileged caste. No property, those will funnel into a very privileged caste. Brief "revolutions" that replace one privileged group with another, but do not actually change the mechanisms nor nature of how humanity (deprived, dumber, technologically-inferior, stranded, hopeless, certainly no trace Caucasian) operates. An expectation of things like literacy or history are insanely optimistic, simply naive.
>>537737107>"If you don't work to support chad's harem, you'll have no house, no healthcare, and you'll starve to death."
>>537737107>How are they going to transfer resources from men>
kingteen girl slaves n castlesjew n orc gone inc mik wop
I have always been willing to fuck women and if I had a woman I would support her, but no women want to fuck me so I wont support any women. If they intend to tax me to support women who refuse to fuck me then I'm just not going to pay taxes anymore. Those bitches don't deserve anything from me because they rejected me and now I hate them and I would rather die than give them a penny.
>>537737288You know what I meant.Even if it's not written history, they will just basically say that the evil degenerate West fell because they let their women get uppity.
>>537729447I'll be happy to do so if they do it again, they want me to go die I'll take a few with me before I die.
>>537737107Even if you made money in cash, they will just print it and give it to single women raising ogres thereby making life even worse.
>>537737055>>537737214I'm using Incel here as a shorter way of referring to what the paper calls "marginalized men", which is a much, much broader category than bitter, terminally online spegs who worship looksmaxing influencers. Currently there's not enough reason for marginalized men to rebel, but it's actively getting worse, and more and more men are slipping into that marginalized status. I don't believe our leaders are going to do absolutely nothing as we slide into demographic collapse. They're going to try SOMETHING. And that something is virtually guaranteed to marginalize even more men, and to make the lives of marginalized men even worse. There is already simmering resentment about the current social order, what happens when you turn up the heat on that already simmering anger? It boils over. Currently, it's just the occasional mass shooter. 99.99% of incels are harmless, distracted by their porn and video games. What happens when incels can't even afford video games anymore due to chip shortages and inflation making the hobby unaffordable to most of them? When pornography is restricted by online IDs? When unemployment becomes the norm for marginalized men, yet they are made financially responsible for the Brave New World of universal welfare for women? Mark my words, if even a fraction of the proposed ideas in this paper are enacted there will be violence, as more and more men reach that point where it's not worth it to keep going along with the system. I myself am barely above that threshold, I can skate by right now. It would only take a couple more things to make me start investing my remaining personal wealth into weapons and planning who I take with me.
It's really funny that society thinks we owe them anything after they've systematically fucked us for our entire lives. Maybe I'm just not interested in keeping your shitty society functional anymore since I never benefitted from it.
>>537725516>continue doing the thing we’re already doing>and maybe the results will changeWomen will literally forfeit all of western civilization if they have the slightest chance at not being held accountable for their choices.
>>537729447That actually sort of happened once. Some white feather feminist decided to hand a feather to a veteran who'd spent a year on the front and he had a PTSD freakout and beat her half to death. After this, the British government had to push a law through discouraging public random white featherings.
If they impose a bachelor tax I'll just identify as a good, checkmate atheists
>>537725516Again with this fucking thread? And what's the memeflag for, you're that Norwegayian yeah?
>>537737625Even goodlooking and rich men in Germany have become resentful of women
>>537737625Someday we'll be warlords, marching across the wasteland of the former USA, raping women and killing minorities. A grand rape/purge from coast to coast. They can't oppress us forever. Eventually we'll break free and take the war brides and the throats of our enemies. Like ravenous wolves we'll feast.
I idea of communes for single moms is astoundingly stupid. Sure there won't be rampant gangs, drugs, and pedophilia. We already have a great example of this: the fucking black projects in the usa.
>>537733754ThisOP is a memeflag kike. What a coincidence!
>>537736988https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Mads-Larsen-14no shit it was written by a "Dr in Philosophy" sociology is a retarded domain modern sociology is just finding a way to get the conclusion you want
>>537735430The women back then also didn't get to sleep with double digits of them either, the local chad/chads of the tribe didn't fuck all lf the women of the tribe because they were kept busy with their own responsibilities, and the tribe actively policed that shit so the tribe didn't fracture
>>537725603This statement is kind of misogynist, is it not? But misogyny and truth aren't often far from each other.As once quoth Good Charlotte:>girls don't like boys, girls like cars and money
>>537726322I hope they implement this system. I've always wondered what it's like to finally just go off to live in a barrel and throw my feces at people.
>>537736089>>537736173>jewbook gobbeldygookFuck off with your jewish schizobabble, I've heard enough hebrew nonsense for one day
Thank goodness
>>537737825I almost wish the cultural reset would happen in my time even though it would be a hellish experience. Just because I'd love to see the expression on all the faces of the smug cunts who thought they could have everything and never face any consequences for their actions. I believe that if it happens (because I still see this as less likely than replacement migration causing the US to turn into a third world tribal confederation instead) it won't happen until after I'm dead or too old to enjoy it properly.
