I’ve wanted to kill myself every second of every day for the last two years since I went off antidepressants. Imagine feeling the culmination of all your saddest and worst moments at all hours of the day nonstop indefinitely with no end in sight. These drugs are the most demonic satanic fucked up evil bullshit from the blackest pits of hell. I have permanent brain damage. How the fuck are these drugs legal and widely prescribed?
>>537982046the refusal to investigate SSRI mass shootings reminds me of the plotline of this old Sean Connery moviehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0ua0Z5duXU
>>537982149was never suicidal before taking these drugs no matter how bad depression got. These drugs MADE me suicidal. The idea that suicidal people just happen to ‘take’ these drugs is a half-truth.The pharmaceutical industry is a leviathan demonic principality suffocating this country.
>>537982046Have you considered masturbation and meditation?
>>537982308Have you considered not taking massive black cocks in your asshole?
>>537982046you think ssri is bad? try antipsychotics, literal chemical lobotomy
>>537982243>>537982368Why would anyone ever take either one? Just do it the old fashioned way and buy a bottle of whiskey.
>>537982046Deserved. Hope you get SSRI'd to death incel
>>537982368“You think the drugs that turn people into mass shooters are bad? This other ones worse”>>537982450Unironically healthier way to manage stress and depression than psych drugs
>>537982348You wouldn't say this if you practice positive thinking
Had a therapist that tried to put me on concerta. I took it for about a week before I realized it was changing me in ways I didn't like. I will never take any of those brain chemistry drugs ever again. They're handing this shit out like it's candy. Meth is another big one. They're WAAAAYYYY overdiagnosing ADHD. Drug companies give kickbacks to doctors that prescribe their drugs and it should not be allowed.
>>537982592At least my father didn’t walk out on my family at age 6 after viciously and belligerently raping me hundreds of times and turning my asshole into swiss cheese like your father did
>>537982046These have been used to turn virtually all of the millennial generation into the perfect goyim. Emotionally numb, intellectually dulled, unable to confront the core of their misery, and more prone to suicide than rebellion. These pills have turned the average woman into a social media bot, and it has created men that are emotionally fragile like women and docile towards their enemies.
I take aripiprazole and all it does is make me fat and not have mood swings. I weigh 245 right now, but I should be 180. I still get occasional auditory and closed-eyed hallucinations, but I think my imaginary friends are just assholes. It's like being clairaudient with a bunch of people who don't talk normally watching through your eyes and brain, and then they respond to my thoughts with auditory hallcuinations. I do like my artwork hallucinations and musical one's thoough.At night sometimes I interact with aliens/monsters/demons, and people who sexually harras me.If I got off this stuff I'd probably be back to have closed eye imagery of the room around me in these hypnotic "gazes", it's like seeing with your eye's closed.
>>537982046You need to overwrite your past experiences with new ones. Make sure there's adrenaline and some pain involved. Doesn't have to be dangerous or anything. Try car racing for instance, or a motorbike, or paintball or something.Do this enough and you rewire yourself.
>>537982046They also fuck up with all of your early memories. I know so many people now on SEIs that can't recall a fucking thing about their childhood. People I grew up with don't remember shit I talk about and they think I'm weird for knowing what happened in the '80s. It's like a chemical lobotomy.
>>537982046hooking you on their drugs is the pharma industries tactic. they are legal drug dealers. they also incentivize doctors to peddle their shit instead of actual treatment.
>>537982937They are a chemical lobotomy. Their entire function is neurochemically poisoning the brain to deplete its functions. I have complete aphantasia now. I can’t envision the future, plan for the future or remember the past. I just live in an endless present like an animal.
>>537982046I experience what you describe everyday but I’ve never taken an SSRI. Shall I take them?
>>537982046Why did you take em in the first place? You have npc parents?
>>537982740>Meth is another big one. They're WAAAAYYYY overdiagnosing ADHDNot meth, but amphetamines. Fucked up ex wife so bad. Psychosis, skin picking... Prescribed off label 60mg/day dose she would eat in a week(240mg/day). A trust fund case now.
You are all bunch of dramatic faggots. Take meds if you think you need them, folks.
>>537982740once you realize nothing really has changed since the time psychiatry embraced lobotomy it will make sense, this field is criminal like it always was, its racket for the jews
Big pharma is one of the most evil factions of capitalism. They are the reason for the prohibition of "dangerous" substances like cocaine and heroin which are based on natural substances, and prescribe you these synthetic over engineered chemical vat concoction in a pill to rekk ur brainz forever. Very jewish tricks
This is a bigger scandal than the media is willing to admit. David Foster Wallace killed himself after going off his antidepressants. Blamed on his ‘depression’ rather than the drugs, which keeps the drugs legal. Every time these drugs kill people the medical industry has an easy scapegoat of ‘depression.’ These drugs will fucking ruin you and potentially end your life.
>>537983229Big pharma is literally controlled by a leviathan demonic principality operating through evil or ignorant men.
>>537982740>therapist that tried to put me on concertaBullshit LARP thread. Therapist can't prescribe meds.OP is a larping faggot as are most of the replies.
>>537983404Therapists can absolutely recommend drugs to a doctor or psychiatrist you fucking evil retard.
>>537982046Stop being a pussy and do shrooms.
>>537982368The people who take antipsychotics would be beheading people on the street if they went off them. If youve ever interacted with someone with an extreme mental illness you'd know what I mean, theyre barely human. I personally wouldnt have them on the streets even with such medication but asylum are "inhumane"
>>537983404People say therapist instead of psychiatrist, Chief. sounds less crazy. have some juicy fruit
>>537982046Bumping. SSRIs are kike invented poison to literally neuter goyim (read about permanent sexual dysfunction caused by SSRIs) and keep the docile. You will NEVER see a kike taking this shit because a snake never bites its own tail.
>>537982937>>537983103they really do fuck your shit up. I remember being on SSRIs and benzos many years ago for some panic disorder shit, and the distinct overarching quality of it all in my memory is that I wasn't getting anxiety because I wasn't feeling ANYTHING at allonce I got off them, it felt like coming off of 3x gravity and the colors being turned off in the world. Crazy shit, and I can't believe people willingly take this stuff. Especially benzos. That shit can and will fuck your mind up for potentially decades
>>537982046Fluvoxamine has been working for me
>>537982046>>537982046>I’ve wanted to kill myself every second of every day for the last two years>>537982046>feeling the culmination of all your saddest and worst moments at all hours of the day nonstop indefinitely with no end in sight>since I went off antidepressantsarent you only supposed to take SSRIs because youre having said thoughtsyou did this in reverse
>>537983452I hate psychonauts like you. Ive got tons of buddies who have done shrooms and guess what? They are still insecure neurotic shit bags. Shrooms will do nothing but give you a 90 day soft wipe
>>537982046I feel you OP. I've been having a really rough time after stopping my SSRIs. Every day I'm filled with the most overwhelming anxiety and sadness, and I can barely get out of bed. All my confidence and positivity are gone. I'm wondering if quitting them was a mistake. It can't be healthy to live medicated your entire life, but if this the alternative then I don't know what's proper.
>>537983629going off these drugs has probably taken 20 years off my life. Family members dying, all my failures and most painful moments in my life were a drop in the bucket compared to this.
>>537983617Reminds me of a fun little trick you can do at the grocery store if they have a kosher (or just european import) aisle.>go to kosher aisle>pick up a product that exists elsewhere in the normal aisle>go find the normal aisle version>compare the ingredientsit'll redpill you right quick and put the term "goyslop" into perspective when you see how the kosher variants completely lack food dyes, carcinogenic chemicals, palm oils, and all that
>>537982820>thisThe worst part with women is these literally take away the feeling of shame or embarrassment. I’ve said this for ages and no one listens but SSRI’s are at least 50% of why women are his they are. Your avg girl would be too embrassed/shy to show her bare ass on social media where anyone can see it but the second she gets SSRI’s she loses any feeling of shame of embrassment and just lets her base feelings take over. Should I send a picture of my boobs go Chad and ask? Yes
Sometimes I wonder if fin's cooking my brain. I think I'd be more depressed if I was bald though. I take half the dosage to mitigate
>>537983740Quitting them is not a mistake but doctors don’t know how to get you off them safely because they have nothing in their literature about it.Whats helped me so far:NAC (powder form)MethylcobalominMethylfolateP5PL-TyrosineL-TryptophanL-TheanineZinc PicolinateVitamin d/k2
>>537983687In 2005, a systematic review of published randomized controlled trials comparing SSRIs with other active treatments or placebo found an almost 2-fold increase in the odds of fatal and nonfatal suicide acts among those exposed to SSRIs [44]. However, no increased risk was observed when only fatal suicide acts were included. Among adolescents, a recent study found that SSRIs utilization significantly increased the risk of completed or attempted suicide [45] whereas, among adults, SSRI use significantly decreased the risk of completed or attempted suicide and, among people aged 65 or more years, the use of SSRIs had a significant protective effect [45]. Only recently has the effect of antidepressant treatments on suicidal behavior and the increased overall mortality associated with major psychiatric disorders become a focus of research interest
>>537983920Shit,Forgot to add Magnesium L-Threonate to this list
>>537982046>I’ve wanted to kill myself every second of every dayIsn't that normal?
>>537983687These drugs make you suicidalKeep up retard
>>537983691I agree. But I do think they have some benefits. Partly responsible for my reduced drinking. Results may vary.
>>537983371>leviathan demonic principalityYou mean Israelis?
>>537982046You were managing your depression. But you stopped treatment. why?And why aren't you going back to it, when it obviously was working?
>>537982046YOU ARE AN EVIL PERSON SSRIS ONLY KILL YOUR SINS YOUR DEMONS YOUR WATCHERS AND YOUR SINS PLAN IS TO KILL YOU….YOU ARE OF EVIL DESIGN….ALL OF YOUR EMOTIONS ARE SINS HIDING BEHIND A DIFFERENT NAME…..EVERY EMOTION IS A SIN THE DEMONS THE DEVILS WHOSE PLAN IS TO KILL ALL HUMANS AND I WATCH AND DO NOTHING BECAUSE YOU ALL HAVE FREE WILL!YHVH
I’ve stopped trusting all vaccines and medications since 2020 after all the bullshit we’ve all seen. You can also tell people lose their fucking minds because they’re constantly taking these meds.
Know what's a fun fact too? In current year we STILL do not know the exact mechanisms by which SSRIs work, nor the full range of their physical effects in your brain. Selective reuptake is at best just an observed side-effect, if not still theory because it's virtually impossible to actually measure live neurotransmitter levels they way you might with blood tests.SSRIs are quite literally a case of "here take this pill. We have no fucking clue what it really does, but sometimes people say they feel less sad after taking it"
>>537982046doing stuff can cure depression. Often depression is due to sloth and passive lifestyle.
>>537984175Good advice, sadly
>>537984192This is true. Depression is largely caused by doing fucking nothing.
>>537984083Wow just like any drug. Thanks for your input and how you just willy nilly tell people to take em, are you a jewish doctor?
>>537984192this is chemically induced depression dumbass. your brain receptors don’t just magically heal because you went outside for a day.
>>537982046I had anger/behavior issues when I was a kid in the 90s. My parents put me on SSRIs in 1998, and that was WAY before they had warnings that these "happy pills" might actually make you have suicidal thoughts. So what happened? After I was put on SSRIs I began having suicidal thoughts every day. The suicidal thoughts made it difficult for me to try build on things from day to day, so I was flailing in life and my life got worse.So what was the solution? Well, according to the psychologist my problems were MUCH WORSE than they originally thought, so they needed to put me on MORE medications. I could no longer tell what was real and what was a dream. I couldn't remember day to day, and one day I might be one way and the next day completely different, as if I had never been the other way.Despite being a child genius and being put in a special program, I didn't graduate high school.Despite being one of the best athletes in the whole school, I didn't play a single sport.Despite being one of the best looking guys in school I didn't get laid and never had a gf.I was the uber-All-American boy. One in a million. And I was the biggest loser in the entire school because SSRIs destroyed my life
>>537984362>chemically induce depression >you cant fix it by doing activities that produce chemicals and chemical pathwaysLolLmao
Such a long thread and nobody has pointed out how the devil kikes are behind all these poisons.... Very suspicious....
>>537984430>Despite being a child genius and being put in a special program, I didn't graduate high school.>Despite being one of the best athletes in the whole school, I didn't play a single sport.>Despite being one of the best looking guys in school I didn't get laid and never had a gf.>I was the uber-All-American boyThats a load of barnacles
>>537983570oh really, what did jfk sister do? act tough during puberty? that was enough to give her lobotomy, quit your lies psychiatry shill, you're con artist
>>537983570thats a lie they give that hsit to anobody. got in a fight, got in a dispute, anything. as long as you get sent to psych because or some sociopath or lair they give you that shit. justc like ssri make people suicidal im pretty sure antipysch turn people itno schizos or schizoish even though they had nothing beforeyou do this feminine /jewish thing where yo utake extrmee case and you build the rule off it./ insane murderers that take this shit are super rare. a lot ar ejust poor kis who ended up in the psych treadmill because randomness reallymeanwhile there are countless extrmeley dangerous people walking the street that will never be given a single pill.
>>537982765Returning negativity with negativity does not make your life better. It merely enforces that negativity is a valid option, and you become more willing to both accept it and perpetuate it.
>>537984190>"here take this pill. We have no fucking clue what it really does, but sometimes people say they feel less sad after taking it"lot of that. Was given flexeril for back pain. fealt like a zombie. same "we don't know" bullshit. Dissolved one on my tongue once, entire head went numb like from novocaine. Pretty clear it's a general anesthetic, numbing everything, including the brain.
>>537983819Oh I've known about this shit for 15 years. I don't eat any jewish chemical bullshit anymore. The kikes truly are the enemies of all mankind.
>>537982820SSRIs can permanently ruin sex drive too, so they double as a goyim population control method in addition to creating mind-numbed slave cattle.
>>537982046Weed kinda always helps.
>>537982820Absolutely 109% this
>>537984362They won't magically heal after one day but they absolutely will over many days.You can most definitely rehab your brain over time with CBT the same way you can rehab the rest of your body with PT. Most goyim just don't want to put forth the effort to make the lifestyle changes and commitment with either though.I've always said the mental health gay is akin to having a physical sports injury. Injuries are very often things you work toward unknowingly, due to poor form, poor recovery habits, etc., and they require time and dedicate effort to bounce back from.Like you don't recover from an ACL tear by just taking advil daily for the rest of your life and calling it a day -- but that's basically what goes on in the big pharma pill pusher world.>Sad? Just take this mystery pill that we have a good guess on what it does but don't fully know, and change nothing about your life that led you to that point to begin with! If doesn't work, we'll just give you more pills!
>>537984352>how you just willy nilly tell people to take emI didn't do that, faggot nigger.
>>537984633>SSRIs can permanently ruin sex drive tooNot "can". They 100% DO destroy sexual function and that is their one true purpose. It's a feature not a bug.
>>537982937This isn't only true for SSRIs. I was a child put on ADHD medication and this is true for me. I have no memories from before I was 18, and some level of difficulty for the next 10 years as well.
>>537982046>I’ve wanted to kill myself every second of every day for the last two years since I went off antidepressants.Did you feel this way before you were on them?I am sorry to hear that and I agree it's evil but I don't think its permanent. I think it may be difficult and similar to other junkie withdrawal symptoms but recoverable over time.
>>537982450Single mothers.
>>537982046They're sold and used because people are too dumb to think for themselves. Practically everything a doctor will tell you is medical misinformation meant to bleed you dry, some of them even do it knowingly. Like all diseases are caused by vaccines, even cancer and allergies and who do you pay for treatments and help with them? Big pharma and their drug pushing quacks. We are cattle to them, nothing more. You just have to look at the health of the Amish to realize it
Go camping out in a safari area in Africa. Just a tarp shelter and fire starter. Once the hyenas start in, evaluate how ready you are. When the rhino and elephant crash through at 3am eval. As you go for water early in the morning and the lions are there, how are you feeling about your extremely short lifespan on earth and speeding it up. Then go home and realize you need to have a vitamin mineral panel run and look exactly at where you are deficit especially mineral. Perhaps it's not your brain wants you to die because it never does, maybe it's telling you we are dying and our gut biome is signaling this because lack of this mineral is leading to it. Niacin for example. Your brain will never ever choose death. But it will tell you something is off balance and it is usually crucial minerals that will slowly kill you if deficiency exists.
>>537984192It's not just 'doing stuff' for the sake of it. People need to have a purpose, or having the feeling of belonging to something bigger than themselves, or that they're working on a personal or familial important project, or at the very least that they are making money and climbing the ladder a bit more everyday. Most modern people have none of these available, and I would say technology, information and the internet are largely to blame. We haven't figured out a healthy way to adapt to these changes in lifestyle and thus poorly understood drugs are the only alternative we have come up with so far.>>537983452To anyone reading this, don't fall for the shroombro/weedbro/drugbro psyop. They easily fuck your brain irreversibly too. I went on a drug spree after I quit my SSRI's and I haven't been the same since. I suffer constantly from horrible panic attacks and my brain fog is even worse than before. If you are susceptible to mental health issues, most drugs will just amplify it and make it worse. Most people pushing the shroom narrative are home growers that want to commercialize their product.>>537983920>>537983974Magnesium L-Threonate has been doing wonders with inducing sleepiness and reducing general tremors, I will have to check the others you mentioned. Still, no substance, minerals or drugs quite beat the natural high of, even if for a couple seconds a month, feeling like you found a purpose or activity to distract you from this dull existence.
>>537984755That's crazy man, I remember the ADD/ADHD era of prescribing Ritalin to every kid who asked basically.
>>537984864Give me a .30-06 in the savannah and I am the most deadly animal.
>>537984802it's not permanent, and it can be fixed with dedication.I always recommend people read picrel to get them started with reframing how all this shit goes. People have DECADES and DECADES of societal programming essentially telling them "literally the only way to fix the mental health gay is by popping these magical pills" and convincing most people that they have an entirely external locus of control when it comes to their mental health.
Kek, you fucking lightweights, im dropping seroquel and SNRIs every day and life is getting better by the minuteAnd im fully erect every fucking morning, life is great nigGGERS
>>537982243>>537982046My mom forced me to take them when I was 14 because I got depressed when we suddenly stopped going to church with no explanation. In less than a month I had the first suicidal thought of my life so I stopped. I wasn't even depressed when I had the thought occur which is what was so scary about it.I had dinner with a girl (31) recently and she said she's tried numerous times to get off them but found it so painful she couldn't. There were a few other people at dinner with us and she was the only one who never laughed the entire time even when she said something funny. It was really sad to see someone living in this flatline stat that they can't get out of even if they want to.
>>537982046welcome to real life. Wanting to be dead 24/7 is perfectly normal and being an adult is suppressing those dark thoughts and going to work even though you know nothing matters and nothing will ever improve.
>>537983183What the fuck. The "standard" dose is something like 5mg.>>537983740For anxiety specifically, look to herbs to help reduce it a little. Valerian root, chamomile tea, etc. Alternatively, some people feel less anxiety with simulants e.g. caffeine or theobromine (chocolate). It's usually one or the other depending on the type of anxiety you have.
>>537984575these drugs are not stopping anything, they make things worse, psychiatrists fuck with teens puberty by giving them random drugs and at one point kids chimp out from the chemical fuckery going in their brain, most school shooters were on SSRIask your psychiatrist how many patients he curedNPC parents let pedo psychiatrists fuck with their 7 year old kid head just because he is lazy in school or something, people dont realize how bad things really are
>>537982046>pharma gooAntiparastics. That's it. That covers 95% of maladies, physical and mental. The rest are antibiotics and surgery.Regular antiparasitic treatment and prophylaxis are the only medical interventions that should be mandated by law and enforced with prejudice and, if need be, violence. This however isn't going to happen because it would bankrupt most industries. Clownworld is run by parasites for parasites, literally.
>>537982046SSRIs are awful because they dull feelings. I wonder how many incels and men who failed to launch ended up that way simply because they were neurologically castrated with SSRIs exactly at the time when they were naturally supposed to rebel and grow up.
>>537983283>KYS while taking antidepressant = not high enough dose of antidepressant>KYS after stopping antidepressant = depression returned because you weren't taking an antidepressant>KYS while taking the highest dose of antidepressant = taking the wrong type of antidepressantThe pharma industry wouldn't exist in its current form if it wasn't for plausible deniability that their drugs cause more harm than good.
>>537982046Permanent nerve damage is okay since it puts you back into the workforce which is all the industry cares about. You can't even get treatment without either almost offing yourself or doing crime if you are working.
>>537982046>How the fuck are these drugs legal and widely prescribed?If you only knew how bad things really are..."The main areas of serotonin research provide no consistent evidence of there being an association between serotonin and depression, and no support for the hypothesis that depression is caused by lowered serotonin activity or concentrations." - ["The serotonin theory of depression: a systematic umbrella review of the evidence" (2022)](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41380-022-01661-0)
>>537985027her shrink gave her the narcolepsy dose. she would take a months worth in a week, go insane, pick body apart, rub bald spots, sleep a week...
>>537984999you can tell this picture is old by how many digital cameras are around instead of phones
>>537985048As the old adage goes, there's no long-term profit in curing your patients!Very, very, very, very few psychiatrists view their relationship with you as a physical therapist might, i.e.>we see each other, I help you in sessions and more importantly give you the homework and tools to do it for you to help yourself, and you eventually get better and I never see you againimagine if you broke your leg, and the medical response either for immediate treatment and/or the physical therapy afterward, were just like "damn, that sucks you broke your leg. But here's 2000mg of ibuprofen, take that daily for the rest of your life. We'll probably add 500mg of aspirin on top of that later. We can talk about how your parents emotionally abused you and caused your leg to break next time :^)"
>>537983914>I take half the dosage [finasteride] to mitigateIt doesn't make much difference if you're taking a dose high enough to have any effect of decreasing or reversing hair loss.Guys get fucked up from .25mg the same as 1mg.Some of it sounds very similar to PSSD chemical castration from SSRIs.
>>537985424what's funny is if you swap the cameras for smartphones it would easily pass as a 2026 photo. Trailer park fashion hasn't changed much over the decades.
>>537983570> The people who take antipsychotics would be beheading people on the street if they went off them. If youve ever interacted with someone with an extreme mental illness you'd know what I mean, theyre barely human.I personally wouldnt have them on the streets even with such medication but asylum are "inhumaneThat’s why you should execute them publicly and then harvest their organs followed by hanging their severed heads on pikes over the freeway if they try any of this shit pussy
>>537982937>they think I'm weird for knowing what happened in the '80s.Christ, my friends and family all say this to me. They think I'm nuts for remembering exact dates, years, and tiny details. This actually explains a lot, since I'm the only one not on drugs in this shitshow.
>>537985525Much like the crocodile hasnt evolved for 400 billion years since it became the perfect predator
>>537985533are the crazies in the room with you right now?you're more likely to get killed by muslim or a nigger, dumb NPC
>>537983931Assuming the Cochrane review was your source.Funny how that got ignored and memoryholed by the psych+pharma industry.
>>537983914Fin is in fact fucking up your head. But I fully get it on the opportunity cost of not taking it.still needs to be said that you're taking a drug intended for treating prostate issues, that just coincidentally happens to have a SIDE EFFECT when it comes to keeping hair (y'know, on top of all the other well-documented negative side effects from it going systemic), as complete off-label usage.For many other drugs, doctors prescribing them to people in that same manner would be considered malpractice.
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>>537982046>have permanent brain damage.1. Yes the damage is permanent2. However your brain synapses can regenerate.You'll never be the person you were before, sorry that person doesn't exist anymore.Accept it, that's what chemical castration is, that is what it does.However, healthy habits, regular exercise, healthy sexuality, hobbies etc etc, synapses will develop again. It will take years, but they will do so.So you can become a new person, a person who is not broken.t. went through this for years, took over 7 to start really recovering10+ years later mostly stabilized. Some things never came back. Some things are new.Sorry for your loss, better start coping, alternative is you stay miserable and this is your new life.Make better changes, advocate against SSRIs.Save people from the mistakes you and I have made.
>>537984190>"sometimes people say they feel less sad after taking it"Only if they believe hard enough that it's actually an antidepressant effect that they're feeling.
>>537982368ThisThe effects don't ever really go away afterIt's like the volume is turned down but they're still on tv
>>537984575Based frenchman
>>537984521Your gender identity is a load of barnacles, troon
>>537985721Dont trust Danish people, they are fucked
>>537985838Dang, most honest take here. Anons, I would also look into how horrible antipsychotics. They shrink your brain and also cause permanent brain damage.These drugs are not meant to help you. They were created to keep you docile and apathetic.
>>537985721>Funny how that got ignored and memoryholed by the psych+pharma industry.And the cunts on capitol hill. Those lobbyist bux will be the death of the nation.
>>537982046I was on Paxil for 18 years against anxiety. 40mg a day. Worked like a charm in retrospect. Was a solid 8, funny, dominant, succes with the ladies, good job, always in front, very quick thinking etc. High libido, good sleep, pretty much emotionless when it came down to feeling sad and crying etc.Then I got into a burnout with anxiety and tinnitus and decided that was the moment to taper down because I already wanted to taper down and maybe the tinnitus would go away. Worst mistake of my life.Results:During tapering down my filter for noise got damaged so I started to hear every fucking noise from my neighbours which pushed me deeper into burnout. I didnt see the connection with tapering down though. Continued tapering down, but wasn't recovered from initial burnout. Then mom died, tapered down to 1,5mg but couldn't sleep anymore, extreme anxiety. Then got another ssrii, took 1 pil and my tinnitus went fucking insane, like you wont believe it. That all got me into extreme anhedonic depression with anxiety, suicidal thoughts (never had them before), couldn't sleep, could only cry, couldn't think, extreme tension etc. Lost my job, moved to another house with (I hoped) better neighbours but they are fucking worse. Because the tension and anxiety everything is fucked up and after 2 years I finally start to calm down. Currently having chronic fatigue, chronic stress, depression, anxious for noise from neighbours, derealisation, always with ANC, havent seen a person in months, too tired for that, but hey, I've recently started doing some things different so maybe it will all work out.TLDR: never quit your SSRI because they fucking work. If I could only turn back time.
>>537982046>Imagine feeling the culmination of all your saddest and worst moments at all hours of the day nonstop indefinitely with no end in sightcan it be called saddest if it is default state?
>>537985166this >>537985002 is exactly what happened to me. I'm not an incel but I'm a NEET. Right as I hit that period where I began to think for myself I was told there is something chemically wrong with my brain. Even though I was only on them for a month, the combination of the suicidal thought and the overall psychological effect of this "you're chemically impaired" message is staggering.It took me about 20 years to recover because this type of parenting conditions you to blame yourself for everything and never point fingers, but you can't actually move past it until you acknowledge your parents fucked up massively.
>>537986193Kill yourself, kike.
>>537983665You’re a payed shill
>>537986175>Anons, I would also look into how horrible antipsychotics*areI think this anon makes a good point also >>537984575
>>537984832>You just have to look at the health of the Amish to realize itSadly, all the Amish died from being unvaccinated.That's why you don't see them posting on social media anymore.
>>537985533>>537985688Also >chekd There are plenty of "normals" walking around like sharks just waiting for the moment they smell someone a little unlike them to unleash their bullshit onto.Normals are the worst kind of sycophantic psychotic prison guard types imaginable but they get a free pass because they stay quiet. Some kid makes a scene because they're upset at reality and all of a sudden he's a problem and needs to be medicated and gaslit into thinking he was sick, becomes resentful and detached with the help of "medicine" and turns into a serial killer.
>>537982046i battled with depression for a long time (i never took SSRIs) and the only relief i found was acceptance of my life as it is and not how i wish it was. it's unlikely all or even most instances of depressions are a "chemical imbalance" and more likely the fact that the person refuses to look at their life in a more realistic way, or don't want to try to change what they perceive wrong in their life (and, if they can't change it, the acceptance that it can't be changed).they're bullshit drugs to keep profits for the pharma companies up. that's about it.
>>537982046I'm not going to argue about SSRIs or tell you it gets better. Two years of wanting to die every second is suffering most people can't imagine. You're still here, which means you've endured something that would have broken most.The only thing I can offer that isn't a platitude: Christianity doesn't give a tidy answer for why suffering exists. What it claims is that God entered it. Not from a distance. He became a man who was tortured to death, abandoned by his friends, and in his last moments felt forsaken even by God. Whatever you're feeling right now, Christ has been there. That doesn't make your suffering go away. But it means you're not alone in it.The people telling you to just think positive or take a different pill don't understand. The ones mocking you are cowards who've never been where you are. Ignore both.There are Catholic monasteries that take in people for retreats — not therapy, not counseling, just silence and prayer and meals with monks who've devoted their lives to God. Some of them have been through their own darkness. You don't have to believe anything to go. You just have to be willing to sit in a place where people have been praying for two thousand years. If you're interested, look up Clear Creek Abbey or any Benedictine monastery near you. You don't need money. You just show up.You've survived two years of hell. That's not weakness. That's something else.
>>537986193what age did you start? anxiety, sadness are part of the human condition, and can be minimized without helpers. Age changes things a lot. Reduced hormones, experience overcoming things, etc.
>>537982243Ever try lithium or agmatine sulfate?There's a lot of serotonergic compounds.The situation is probably more manageable than may realize.
>>537982046Don't ever let them diagnose you.A lot of people are having natural reactions to all the horrible shit they're feeding our bodies and minds. They've done studies on SSRI's, and they're not even effective at treating depression in a large population. Most people are better off forcing themselves into a better diet + exercise. I know that is asking a lot from depressed people, but it's better than getting stuck having to take a pill everyday just to feel "normal"
>>537986519The drugs make you happier despite having a shit life, its just chemistry. Dont believe in chemistry? Try drinking a gallon of petrol and report your findings, chemistry works because fuck you
>>537984083SameHad a bad trip that set me off alcohol and weed Never did shrooms again after either but still don't drink
>>537982149Id like to thing that future generations will look back on this era of pharmacology the same way that we think about pre industrial revolution surgical practice but I have doubts that the chaff can even recognize there is an issue in the first place
>>537986193Pretty much this. I was prescribed an SSRI and it literally saved my life. I went from being an overweight alcoholic drug addicted neet to literally having a 6 figure salary, getting fit, and a fiancée in about 5 and a half years.>threadanti pharmaceutical slop is poison
>>537986637they used to treat alcoholics by filming them at their worst, then making them watch the footage.Shrooms did that for me in a way. Kind of removed the blinders to what a degenerate drunk I had become. I still struggle with the drink, but way more sober days, fewer total shitfaced days. No desire to do shrooms anytime soon, but not ruling it out.
>>537982046I took them for a couple months and they seemed to help but they also made my dick not work so i stopped. guess I dodged a bullet. but im also mega depressed and worthless still.
>>537986588>despite having a shit lifeeveryone has a shit life. so what?
>>537986854why are you here?
>>537986664Look into why/how vitamin treatments got shafted for psychological illness in canada and how Abram Hoffer(?) lost his practice in SaskatchewanPergamon press, Robert maxwell, Paul rosbaud.Basically somewhat responsible for the pharmaceutical industry by controlling half of academia out of Oxford
>>537982348Anon, I'm really sorry that your society provided mentality that aggressive swarthy black men with massive engorged penises taking pleasure in everything, be it white women, males perceived as inferior, etc. I'm genuinely sorry they brainwashed you this way. Let go my friend. We can all heal together.
>>537986895I think that would work for sure Not that I'd want to see it lmao.
>>537986532I started at 17/18. I got it for anxiety, but I was sad/depressed before that. Form of OCD started at 10/11 (pulling out my hair). You know, the typical gifted 131iq misunderstood boy who was way to sensitive and grew up in a family with a lot of tension, and nowhere to go. Physical abused by my older sister. Other sisters had big problems.What followed was years of periods of growth and self destruction. Took me 7 years to finish my bachelors. DId a couple of years of retail combined with getting my masters degree. In the end I hated that job and it got me into a bore out.Then I FINALLY landed my dream job but when I started my new job I already was sort of burned out, but kept pushing. No way in hell I would let this job slip out of my hand. But you cannot force yourself out of a burnout.Last 2 years where HELL. Literally hell. My tinnitus was so loud.It is not the SSRI's alone, but it ws the worst fucking moment to taper down. Funny thing is: I'm still on 1mg and insurence doesnt cover those tiny dosages. So now I'm still depending on pills AND have to fucking pay for it, even though it doestn work but tapering down more gives me extreme tension in my body. Not a good time to do.
>>537982046Ever since I've realized that my life is the result of the world view of a retard I don't suffer anymore. You can't explain to a retard he's wrong.
>>537985403I also knew a girl prescribed the max dose of Adderrall who lost her business after going schizo and picking her skin and hair like a dog with mange.They doped her up on SSRIs and trazodone to compensate, then eventually took her off the adderrall once that psych lost her license and had to move to another state.I tried to convince her to taper off the SSRIs and trazodone but she was somehow convinced she would kill herself if she quit.Caught up with her a few years ago and she was off all the meds and she was married with a kid and had a small business going again.Not sure how she managed to quit, but she was a mess on SSRIs.
>>537986854I'm honestly glad it worked out for you. It gave both myself >>537985002 and other anons in this thread the first suicidal thought of our lives so it's not quite as simple as you're making it out to be.I'm curious if you would consider making your children take them if they seemed depressed, knowing how much it helped you. That was my mom's mindset - "it helped me so it'll help him."
>>537983920Shilajit made a huge difference for me.Just be careful about quality and heavy metal contamination. I only ever took Purest.
>>537982348Damn OP, good response
>>537982046>How the fuck are these drugs legal and widely prescribed?Jews. You pay psych to prescribe them. You pay pharmaceutical to get them. You get addicted to these things. You always take a loan to pay for this shit the banking system is set up that way, Jews that run the banking system so they always make profit. They always lobby for this system to continue.
>>537984575One big cause of schizophrenia is doing occult stuff, divination etc. Several cases caused by hallucinogenic drugs too, even weed has some literature about being cause for psychosis.
>>537982243>>537982046why do ameristupids rush to take these bullshit medications, thats why your country is fucked up. stupid piece of lard, hit the gym.
>>537987173Couldn't have said it better myself.
>>537984999checked and same, stopped taking ssri 2 months ago, had some suicidal thoughts and irritability but mostly feeling better
>>537987173Can you elaborate?
>>537983202This
>>537987143>I started at 17/18. I got it for anxiety, but I was sad/depressed before that. Form of OCD started at 10/11 (pulling out my hair). You know, the typical gifted 131iq misunderstood boy who was way to sensitive and grew up in a family with a lot of tension, and nowhere to go.Sounds exactly like my life. I self medicated with weed and booze, floundered, wasted money on school and never got a degree. Married some junkie with a self esteem as low as mine. Had kid, got divorced, behaved poorly... Can't prove or disprove a hypothetical, but I wonder what medication at 17 would have done. No regrets though. Rather have highs and lows than be flat.
>>537983931you just stated its protective and decreased in Adults
>>537984864Natural salt (from sea or saltmine) with trace minerals is a win. People dont like clay gravel particles etc in their water and filter it but thats often a mistake.
>>537984904>technology, information and the internet are largely to blameAnd not the fucking economy and demographics? The places we live in keep getting worse, housing and life grows more and more unaffordable while wages stay the same, the internet is just an escape. Sure escapism is easier now, but I'm sure a lot of people got fucked in the head during the Great Depression
>>537982046eh, are you sure it's them and not because fabric of society is gone and everyone wants to kill each other?Not saying what you're going through can't happen, I know it can, but how sure are you?t. someone who has got chronic fatigue and a shit ton of other issues from effexor 12 years ago.
>>537985838Thanks for not being a coddling retard and trying to say "nothing is permanent".I've been stuck like OP for over 20 years now and tried everything to reverse it. Eating clean and exercising was more helpful than any weird drug, supplement, of self-help doctrine.Feeling better than I did the first few months after I quit taking the poison, but my life is ruined and if I woke up tomorrow feeling like my old self, I can't get back the lost time.
>>537982046you are not alone, the subversion propaganda plus life itself kill us, i went on anti depressants once, just after a psychogenic syncope with myoclonic jerks xDD aka hold the ground like a man... but suddenly i wake up in a bed..., and well... they helped me on that moment, but after some years i noticed i was screwed the same, but with some small feelings instead a big ones, also that allowed me to pass the page in the brain and distract the focus, yesterday a shit i readed pff, said that i must make things happen as im coded with that shit inside, if i do it i will be fine and if i don't i will suffer a lot, i was doing it by myself all the time as its the only thing that makes my brain distracted and busy, i start one thing and i finish it, so make your things happen, try to make them happen, also go close with real people who loves you, if you able of that, then you will be pretty well and feel peace inside. don't let your brain take control, and if you can't then you need expert help, need a good doctor and maybe some pill to get the brain chemistry balanced again, but don't hurt yourself on purpose :(
>>537985341There are thousands of articles saying otherwise.
>>537987176>Caught up with her a few years ago and she was off all the meds and she was married with a kid and had a small business going again.Good to hear. The fucking pusher she had gave her welbutrin to counter all her crazy shit. She never took them.She had been programmed since childhood to believe she was chemically different, couldn't have a normal life without meds. Sad case that never recovered. Rich family just bought her a condo and give her a monthly check. Gave up
>>537986854>anti pharmaceutical slop is poison
>>537982450Ah, yes. Because drunks are such stable & lucid intellectuals. Fucking die right now please.
>>537984904Why germans are obsessed with money? I have heard teens get their neigbours dog for a walk and get ten euros, help a friend/classmate learn language and get paid etc. Monetizing everything is very bad and it corrupts. In essence, money alienates work and relations and installs itself as an interface for everything in life.Doing stuff for the sake of doing it has been a germanic way in the past.
>>537986235It's feeling worse than your worst pre-drug day every day for the rest of your life.
>>537987793so? I didn't state, I quoted. It's from a study.
>>537986193>>537987143 >During tapering down my filter for noise got damaged Isn't this a very common symptom of tinnitus? My aunt became extremely sensitive to noise after her acute hearing loss and to this day she's easily agitated emotionally and I still don't know if it's because of her character or the disease. >I started at 17/18 How the fuck do anxious people even get help if it comes not forced from the outside? I'm in my mid 30s and never talked to a doctor about any mental issues (never took any psychotropics), because all sorts of anxieties (what could go wrong or the doctor won't take me seriously) immediately race through my head. I know since my teenage years that I need help and my life got very fucked up because I could never motivate myself to get help. How do you people do this? Was some teacher, doctor or parent just forcing you to go? The adults in my life never gave a single shit and never cared to look actually closer into my life, because if they did they'd have seen how bad things were. If you're a male and anxious it should be recognized as a legit disease, because it fucks up your life so bad. Instead people just shrug it off or think it's bad character or some shit.
>>537982243Welcome to the club. They never leave, even when you quit. I only took them to get over the initial "culture shock" of giving up alcohol after two + decades of heavy drinking. Never felt suicidal while drinking. And I got BLACK OUT drunk and I'm still here. I'm California Sober now. Those SSRI's (and I was on the training wheel version, lexapro) just block out a part of your humanity. There is also a barrier between you and your dick. You just don't want sex and when you try you cannot cum no matter what devient shit you're into. Aint happenin. I'm glad I gave thoses things up. They did the job, I got off alcohol but now I'm left with:>What a beautiful morning. My garden looks fucking awesome.>I should put a bullet in my head.WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK????The thoughts come out of fucking nowhere and believe me anon, I really do lead a charmed life these days.. I have ZERO reason to entertain such thoughts.Thanks, pharma (and my former weak ass alcoholic self)*shruggs
>>537987391a lot of religiousphobic psychiatrists conflate religious beliefs for what u said. people say shit that seems biblical in order to do thing the religious way, syaing jesus is with me or whatever (of corus ethey dont really see anything or whatever) and they get fucked up with pills and they basically have to sotp anything religious to get releasedpeople shit on China for imprisoning muslims for their beliefs but the West pretty much does the same exact thing, except in more cowardly way, lieing about it. people should keep their bneliefs to themselves when dealing with psychiatrists
>>537986854Based.
>>537986575>better diet + exerciseI literally do this and a lot more and still want to kill myself. Still not taking pills but the fuck am I supposed to do?>"BRO JUST GO GYM XDDD"If ONLY it were that easy.
>>537986550The deboonked "serotonin deficiency" theory of depression is the fraud behind mass implementation of SSRIs.Picrel: One of its original vocal proponents is still pushing it. Seems like a real trustworthy guy
>>537986588You should try mainlining heroin.It actually makes you happier, while SSRIs only have tenuous evidence and hearsay claiming that they elevate your mood.
>>537988787Compounds that increase serotonin definitely make me less depressed.I wouldn't call it a fraud as much as a simplification.
>>537988578I'm in the same boat as you, anon. Let me share the advice I've received which might help you - "just stop thinking about it" and "nothing's as bad as you think it's going to be"
>>537982046It sounds like they were working until you fell for a meme about them. Now you are suffering because you don’t take your meds many such cases
>>537988578It's not sensitive in the way it hurts, but I cannot filter out certain noise like screaming, upstairs neigbhours walking, low frequency noise from cars etc. It has something to do with my nervous system not relaxing and constantly scanning for dangour.>How the fuck do anxious people even get help if it comes not forced from the outside?Idk. There was a lot of stuff going on with my siblings and my mother always was seeking help for us. But you have to search help if your daughter is starving herself to death like my sister did. But the cause of our problems stems from my parents being abused by their parents. They broke the chain of abuse but when two damaged persons raise children the cannot give the emotional safety a kid needs, because they didnt knew what it was. They tried though, and they tried really hard to do it right.That being said, I got therapy off and on from age 11. I wish I never had therapy. Because therapy makes you see things and makes your hyper focussed on people, interpretations, interactions, yourself etc. What I really needed was emotional love and support from my father (yeah I know its a faggot cliche), or a father like figure. Someone who believes in you, helps you sets your goals. Therapy is mostly feminine, and talking about feelings is not something that helps in the long term.Ah well, I'm 38, still a long time to go. And if I die I'm with Christ.
>>537988637>They never leave, even when you quitBullshit, you're dealing with PTSD of having brain damage.I literally already said in thread you have to cope and switch your life to an actual good life.The bad times leave, it takes fucking years.Average recovery from SSRIs is 15 fucking years dude, stop doomer pilling everyone in thread it is unwarranted and flat out wrong.The damage is real, the problems are real.If you're saying you will never recover, just go ahead and kill yourself so you stop bringing everyone else down.You can recover, you are just broken and not willing to do what it takes to recover.Daily exercise, daily stimulation of the brain in healthy ways, good food intake, socialization, find something to love again (even if it is just a dog).The pain diminishes, some of it never goes away, but you can become a normal person again. Compared to the average person you can even become better than average.Once againafter SSRIs the person you were is gone, the damage is real.HOWEVER, you can recover and become a new person.I also never had suicidal ideation until I took SSRIs, but compared to ten years ago they are almost completely gone.I am now aware it might be lifelong, but I did have some recovery and so can you.Stop bringing people down.Help them with their recovery and advocate SSRI bans.Every time you say someone cannot recover from this you are adding a layer of stress and depression to them that reinforces the negative feelings that they won't one day feel normal.Anyone reading this that got PSSD or now feels half-human, or can no longer do a hobby they use to love.You can recover, keep your expectations realistic, some things you'll find are even better than before.However the you that existed is gone, you have to build the you that you want.It starts today dudes,
>>537982046>>537982243Took them for years and stopped suddenly after I was satisfied I no longer needed them.Had ZERO issues after stopping to the point that not drinking coffee had worse side effects. So either you're a bullshit shill, you took something else or there was some underlying issue you had prior to even taking them.
>>537989262>I cannot filter out certain noise like screaming, upstairs neigbhours walking, low frequency noise from cars etc.NAC can help with this. Reduces distractions and compulsive behaviors.Likely related to its ability to regulate glutamate.
>>537984575I say this because I have a family member with schizophrenia who tried to break my door down threatening to kill me. If I had my way, people like that would be euthanised but if you want them in society you have to basically lobotomise them.No one who isnt dangerous should take them.
>>537982046They didn't do shit for me. I tried like three different anti-depressants over six months because I was just so anhedonic after quitting drinking, and let me be clear: If it takes a month and a half to maybe feel better, then it's no better than placebo. You'll probably feel better anyway given a few weeks of taking care of yourself and this shit ranges from negligible to bad side effects.
My experience with SSRIs for over 5 years: >the most obvious is that it made me numb as fuck, which was gradual and I didn't even notice.>unaware of problems with my life I have to solve now after years of neglect, this one has been pretty brutal. Or maybe not. Maybe I needed years of drugs to calm down and put things into perspective, after all, its not like I was doing great before. But I know that it made me unaware of things I'm currently working on.>dont like what my personality was like, I even took the covid vaxx.>currently struggling to learn to manage my emotional state, developing techniques for it, doing a massive effort actually, because I do not want to take the pills again under any circumstances.People, me included back then, tend to see doctors as an authority figure that makes them feel safe. They think SSRIs or benzos are fundamentally different from alcohol or morphine, because a doctor prescribed it, and said it's a needed medicine.This is of couse not actually accurate, doctors dont understand the complexity of the effects.Why did I not notice obvious problems I need to do something about? Probably because emotions matter for judgement.Why did I have a different personality? I don't get this one ngl. I was different. More of an NPC in a sense or idk.
>>537989319>took them for yearsgenetic, certain SSRIs do absolutely nothing to you because of absorption method, literally nothing positive or negative.Other SSRIs have exponential influence.So you either took an absurdly low dosage or you took one that just did nothing to begin with because you metabolized it in hyper fashion.So people develop PSSD in as little as two weeks on the lowest possible dosage for what is widely considered the "safest" of the drugs.Which is the greatest issue with the medication to begin with.It's unregulated to a point of absurdity that they basically have no information on what it does to the average person at any dosage.Hence why it can easily cause chemical castration and is not worth the risk.14 days of pills at the lowest dosage can cause you near permanent ED with 15 years of rehabilitation to have okay erections again.So no, you're the fucking shill.Total kike death.
>>537988088Same deal with this girl.Well-off parents who were both doctors and bought a small house for her live in after her life went to shambles.I think the parents didn't appreciate that I was trying to talk their daughter out of taking meds she didn't really need and noticed ~90% of people in medicine fully trust the Science and drink their own Kool-Aid, as well as pushing it on their kids.I've spoken with lots of people fucked up from medications who have family members in the medical field who accuse them of lying for attention before admitting their drugs are anathema.An interesting side-note, this girl's psych apparently lost her license in several states for over-prescribing stimulants and just keeps bouncing from state to state doing the same.
>>537988934So would heroin. So would benzos. Meth, certainly less depressed. Sometimes simplification for profit is tantamount to fraud no?
>>537989540>This is of couse not actually accurate, doctors dont understand the complexity of the effects.Doctors have no financial incentive to tell you about anything you can get off the shelf.Their business model limits them to prescription drugs.
>>537989540>benzosdoctor gave me so much benzos that I was basically drunk in public.I was acting fucking retarded.
>>537989540A good shrink will tell you the truth about antideps.They do not do anything serious to your brain.They do not change your personality.All they do is take the edge off emotions, limiting your ability to fell extremes and that way they enable you to focus more clearly on what you want to think about.They do basically the same thing as alchohol/weed but without the phychologically altering effects of those substances.
>>537989834>They do not do anything serious to your brain.Total kike death.
>>537989708Anon claimed that serotonin based depression has been debunked, which is false.I was just playing Devil's advocate, don't misrepresent the strength of the arguments.
>>537988761i feel for you fren, i remember thinking too,>i would kill myself if not for these pillsthe "just go gym" is of course misguided. but i recommend that you seriously think about quitting the pills soon, maybe after a year or so of starting them, or start gradually reducing the dose now if it's been more than a year.remember: the doctors who tell you its safe do not understand the complexity of the effects. i know first hand from taking them. they are harmful.lets also look at this logically. if you want to kill yourself without the pills, but you choose to take the pills instead of killing yourself, then you feel like killing yourself, but don't actually want to, in terms of your rational decision making. so dont have a real reason to. therefore what you have to do is stop taking the pills and learn to not want to kill yourself. this can be incredibly hard but it can be done, you can develop techniques to condition and rewire your mind, i dont recommend psychologists as they're low IQ normies, i recommend learning by trial and error, make it a real goal and think about it daily. it should be easier if you quit the pills gradually.
>>537989998Reread my post. I said I am not taking pills. Never have taken them.
>>537989673You failed to understand my point or did not read it correctly.They definitely DID help me, took the edge off my emotions and made me focused.But quiting them afterwards did not make me have crazy side effects at all.They do not cause physical dependance or if they do it is extremely low.So experiencing weird shit after stopping is the same as nicotine or other substances, it's all in your head.Some people have catastrophic reactions when stopping cigarettes or antideps etc because in their minds they convinced themselves they NEED it when in fact they do not need it anymore.Stopping something should be done responcibly, gradually weening off, talking to a shrink and reinforcing the idea that you will be fine without it.TL;DR: it's 99% all in your head and can be fixed by a shrink.
>>537982046I mean look the goy example:https://youtu.be/NeNbmKA0RZA?si=Zbo9G5gYiRV25CJQ
>>537989907Yep and all withdrawals are voluntary, you choose to feel that way because you made yourself believe a pill is an integral part of you.Read>>537990146
>>537989907Health hackers that know what they are doing will even cycle naturally gatekept compounds like l-tyrosine.Sad that a random gooner on reddit is more trustworthy than a doctor on this topic.
>>537983404>look stupid goy being antisemtic towards us we clearly superior than themOkay glowie.
>>537990146>NO THEY DONT CHANGE YOUR BRAIN AT ALL>BUT THEY HELPED ME WHICH MEANS THEY CHANGED MY BRAINAh the old change the goal post routine.
>>537988162nah. I've consulted with chatgpt and we've decided it would be better for you to kill yourself instead. Let's just rid the world of that senseless negativity. Fucking pill popper.
>>537989995I am not sure I agree. That serotonin is involved isn’t the dispute, the model of depression as a serotonergic “chemical imbalance” has been quite effectively debunked afaict, it doesn’t even have surface validity. Depression is obviously complex and “overdetermined” not some biochemical shortfall you can supplement away. I sometimes take 5thp, I don’t kid myself that taking it daily would make me “normal” whatever the heck that even means.
>>537989789In Spain its different, when you go to the doctor its a government facility and they're all government employees, and the drugs are not from big brands, they're the same chemical but made in india for pennies (or the big brand if it has a recent patent, but paid for by the government).>>537989834>All they do is take the edge off emotions>limiting your ability to fell extremes>enable you to focus more clearly on what you want to think about>without the phychologically altering effectsThis is exactly what I am talking about, I lived it, and took the pills for years, I can verify that taking the edge off emotions is very dangerous because emotions matter for judgement, and that limiting the ability to feel extremes alters your personality, as a big part of someone's personality is also strong feelings about certain things.btw don't get me wrong I am not saying the shrinks are doing something wrong or that the drugs are bad. Like I said, maybe I see it as bad now, but back then, I needed to be on drugs for a while to relax and get a better perspective on things. But I can personally corroborate that they have nuanced effects doctors don't know. Also psychologists are giga midwits.
>>537990140ah ok my bad, well that goes for anyone taking them
>>537986963I'm offering an alternative perspective to le SSRI's are le bad meme.
>>537990264You are obviously too retarded to understand my words, blame an object all you want but it wont fix the issues you have.You need to fix them yourself, the object is or was there to assist in a very small way by enabling you to think a little more focused.It didnt alter your brain it just used your natural chemicals that you already have and balanced them as you naturally should have. >but muhhh that means it changed muh brain!!!It didnt, you are still the same person with the same thoughts and same descisions.Everything else is cope.
I am a prof and I was talking to one of my grad students about generational differences (I’m 38) and she said that part of the reason why her cohort doesn’t drink is that so many of her friends and peers are on SSRIs. She told me this last year and I think about it all the time. It is often in the back of my mind when I’m dealing with 20 year olds who seem off, apathetic, awkward and so on. I assumed it was post-COVID social issues plus a little of me forgetting how I was when I was younger. But the medication thing sort of fits with some of the behavior I’ve seen.You couldn’t pay me to take this stuff. I don’t know why people don’t just disconnect from their screens, exercise, focus on nutrition, force themselves to socialize through a new hobby or interest and go into nature more. I have never understood how people see pills as shortcuts without side effects.
>>537987200>curious if you would consider making your children take them if they seemed depressedIf a doctor prescribes them to my child, I would strongly consider it. However, it also depends on if I think they are truly depressed or if they just need something else
>>537990375No problem. Just feels like there are no options left really. Thougth about ketamine injections but you need to have tried SSRIs for that to be prescribed unless you pay over 3000 Euro which I don't have for such a treatment.Might as well do shrooms lmao.
>>537990243We were just discussing how a small megadosage of creatine once monthly rapidly repairs brain damage under high stress and basically recovers months of not sleeping well.Look it up, limited evidence, but some of it is very promising.Lot of mixed signals, but a few have shown brain repair as literal possibility while JEWoogle AI only wants to show me the few sources.It's technically a toxic dosage though, you want to hit the threshold where the dosage is just enough to stimulate, but no more.If you're feeling regular depression though, it's way better for you than SSRIs.>>537990214>bro you have brain damage but you're choosing to have brain damage>b-but I have brain damage and it was positive brain damageCongrats dude, you have the smallest understanding of what chemical castration is.
>>537986854Are you currently still taking them? You don't have the full picture if you are. You may notice new things after stopping like "my personality changed, and in a way had less of a soul" or "why didnt i care about this". I'm happy for you though.
A lot of this is psycho-somatic bro. Even if you had some kind of chronic serotonin receptor problem that lasted beyond stopping the drug, that can and will be fixed. It sort of defies undeniably true physiology to believe otherwise. They really can’t cause permanent unfixable brain damage. How is your sleep? Do you get a decent 7ish or more hours of sleep each night?
>>537988158I know it's edgy to be against pharmaceutical products but, sometimes, people need them. If you are some chud who gets off on shitting on modern medical science, perhaps you might want to consider alchemy and astrology the next time you feel unwell.
>>537990350>limiting the ability to feel extremes alters your personality.That could arguably be true, it is a valid point of discussion.However this is why the pills are usually paired with CBT and talks with a shrink, you need to work on changing your way of thinking while taking the pills as otherwise it's kinda pointless.They are an assistance drug not a "will fix you dont do anything" drug.But sure I can see how some people might fail the treatment if they just took it expecting to magically have all their issues fixed.
>>537990443Anon, you realize you're not on reddit right?I need you to actually understand that.You are literally shilling SSRIs on 4chan right now.You are ignoring decades of known research that SSRIs have quantifiably via MRI, Cat, and other metrics changed how a brain functions permanently.Do you understand what the word quantifiable means?I get you're mad, but come on if you're going to troll you need to put some effort into your attempt.You gotta throw out some good reddit post of trannies saying it saved their life or some shit.I mean jesus christ man you literally have a kike meme flag on right now.
>>537990605>a mentally ill drug addict tries to convince others that the drugs for his mental illness are great You are among the last people I would listen to.
>>537989834neither you nor psychiatrists actually know whats happening when you take these drugs, there's reason you juggle them over and over until something "works" or patient kill himself
>>537982046>doctors literally admit theyre not even 100% sure how SSRIs work, they just prescribe them for depression because it's the mainstream thing to do >you take it anywaysGood job dumbass, dw id also be depressed if i was a dumbass like you. Your depression is simply a natural response to your environment, it's hard to be happy in this nigger jew jeet etc hellscape, SSRIs are a cattle drug made for women
>>537984095Please shut the fuck up with your ignorant bullshit.
>>537990511SSRIs dont cause brain damage, you are a retard and quoting AI like some dumb fuck doesnt help your case.These drugs HELP people and you being a stupid nigger talking shit to other people discouraging them to literally make their lives better is extremely kiked behaviour.Mind your own fucking business and let people who want to heal themselves do so you retarded cunt.
>>537982046I felt this way sober and not on drugs. I feel better now, less moody and chronically depressed. I'm also doing this in tandem with therapy.
>>537990590/thread
>>537990748Kike.
>>537987863>DemographicsThe reason people allow demographic genocide and don't go out in the street and eradicate all the nigger and muslim rapists and the traitor politicians/jews is because they have become docile thanks to the amount of pacifying escapism and slop we have available. Nobody is willing to sacrifice themselves when they can just spend the rest of their days playing videogames, watching porn and ordering chinese made cheap stuff from amazon. This is all a direct consequence of technology giving us a coping mechanism.The economy is also a reflection of how technology has globalized the world and facilitated cheap labour. Why would you pay dignified salaries to some first world white people with high IQs and standards when you can just outsource all your menial work to the china/india/pakistan slave caste and still direct the entire operation from a simple zoom call in the comfort of your mansion and triple the profits? Technology and the ease of logistics it provides is what allows this hellish globalized economy to sustain itself. Feminism and allowing women to join the workforce to participate in bullshit adult daycare corporate jobs which effectively creates a surplus of workers and halves the wages is also sustained thanks to technology,
Zoloft made anxiety vanish and I can live like a normal adult. It works for people who need it
>>537982822over the years i have slowly been training myself to see stuff around me with my eyes closed by meditating on ketamine and using the cia gateway process tapes. i can basically render places i know in my mind and fly around them in noclip mode sorta like the sonar scene from batman: https://youtu.be/IRELLH86Edoi guess its basically like remote viewing?you should probably get off that pharajoo shit because it is destroying your third eye that you had naturally.
>>537990748Anon you're coping now, you aren't even posting any citations.I mean look at you, you are desperately responding now. I mean desperately.I can literally feel you typing as fast as you can because of how upset you are.It will be okay dude, go for a nice walk or something. I'm gonna go have some coffee and go work out.Just want to make sure you don't have a heart attack friend.You might want to go back onto those SSRIs you're shilling so much though, apparently your mood isn't as stable as you thought.
>>537990560Yes, I'm still on them albeit at a lower dose than initially. I haven't noticed anything so far.
>>537990678You're stupid and are literally destroying people's lives with stupid advise.Better stop talking and mind your own business retard, someone here might actually benefit a lot from SSRI but then they read your retarded, unfactual garbage and decide not to do so, potentially ruining their own lives in the process.
>>537990819>The economy is also a reflection of how technology has globalized the world and facilitated cheap labour. Why would you pay dignified salaries to some first world white people with high IQs and standards when you can just outsource all your menial work to the china/india/pakistan slave caste and still direct the entire operation from a simple zoom call in the comfort of your mansion and triple the profits?so youre saying that lazy jew faggot (((Marx))) was right all along?
>>537983914Fin is used in rats to induce dry eye in labs that study dry eye disease. I have been off fin for 2 and half years and symptoms persist. My hair stopped shedding but I lost libido, exocrine glands dried up (they are filled with androgen receptors) and fatigue appeared. At first they suspected Sjögren’s, got tested and it was completely discarded. I am now undoing the damage trying to increase DHT naturally and the dryness is improving. I used to think those cases with side effects were extremely rare and that PFS was overhyped paranoia from internet’s ecochambers but once you live it you would rather go bald.
>>537982046I hear you, man. I've been on them since I was 17. I'm 45 now. I've tried slowly tapering off and quitting them. I always gradually go insane. I start getting really paranoid, aggressive, and have no control over my emotions. Every bad memory just swirls around in my head relentlessly. Fear, sadness, shame, frustration, and anger all at the same time. Last time I nearly killed my dog. Started taking the pills again and felt fine within 2 days. I am a slave to that shit.
>>537990634I was sent to a psychologist but it was just a foid giving me normie advice. These people's ability to guide other people's lives is very limited.To put it in a differnet way, when I go to a doctor for, say, a skin condition, or a cold that keeps getting worse for many weeks, or something like that, the doctor can tell me the source of the problem, and give me a medication that will solve it. This is something I need the doctor for, and the doctor is a massive improvement over me trying to treat the issue myself. Sometimes people think psychologists are the same way, but that is not the case. I found them, based on mine and my sister's experiences, to just be normies who give you normie advice.So if the pills by themselves are not a good idea and won't fix your issues, then the pills + a psychologist also won't.
>>537990735Wrong, it is well documented and researched on what they do.
>>537990748The serotonin hypothesis of depression has been deboonked for a long time yet MDs continue to prescribe SSRIs.Imagine you are depressed and the first course of treatment is to be given drugs in a trial and error fashion. If they don’t seem to help they’ll tweak dosages, change drugs and hopefully they don’t exacerbate your symptoms and lead to suicide ideation.Sounds more like an art than a science. Not something I’d do to my own brain.
>>537982450A bottle a day keeps the doctor away.
>>537990967it works both ways you know, some people might believe in your fake drug therapy and end up fat, retarded or kill themselfs, you always blame suicide on the illness instead of drugs, psychiatry is criminal, no psychiatrists ever face consquences
>>537990717Well, let's see. I'm no longer smoking weed every day. I haven't touched cocaine in 8 years. I haven't has any alcohol in about 7 years. I have gainful employment. I have a steady long term relationship with a good woman. It all started because I went to get help and received it in the form of therapy and antidepressants. I have no complaints. You could either choose to take control of your life or not.
>>537990957lower dose is, in my experience, by far, not the same as reducing thempersonally i noticed the biggest difference between a tiny dose that shouldn't be doing anything vs nothing
I'd say fluoroquinolones come pretty close or are maybe even worse than antidepressants. I was floxed and it only took 4 pills of this shit.
>>537990967>no not my heckin SSRIs bro not my big pharmaAlright man, you don't want to have an actual discussion okay.Have a good day, hopefully those SSRIs make you less cranky, don't come complaining when you get permanent ED.I'm out thread, last post.You can have permanent ED from SSRIs, it is proven. We have thousands of citations.It's called PSSD.If you want to roll the dice on losing your dick, by all means.Have a good day guys.
>>537991104Then stop taking the pills if you’re better now. You don’t stay on antibiotics forever after the infection has cleared up. You’re dependent on a drug to behave like a normal human, why would I listen to someone like you?
>>537982826I ride a motorcycle. Does fuck all for le happiness.
>>537989274Indeed.These drugs killed off any innocence I had.They were a total reset on my life as I can no longer remember my past.Very fun to experience at age 35. Society doesn’t give a shit what you’re going through. You’re expected to deal with it. There’s not even a pop culture context for people to relate to this sort of thing because the medical industry and mainstream media flat out refuse to introduce this idea to the public consciousness — that these drugs are basically the grim reaper.I will never feel the same level of happiness I did before these drugs.
>>537990992>was just a foid giving me normie advice.Bad phychologist then, there is an entire branch called Congitive Behavioural Therapy and it takes a while to be effective.It certainly shouldnt be normie talk points, if should guide you to form better opinions and thought processes by yourself.
>>537991177I know you aren’t lying. That guy is a shill cunt.
>>537991104>I'm no longer smoking weed every day. I haven't touched cocaine in 8 years. I haven't has any alcohol in about 7 yearsthat doesn't count because you're doing a different drug now, you also weren't on SSRIs before and you wouldn't say your life was betterthe other things you did are good, not because you were a neet and now work, or because you were single and now married, in itself, but because you're happy about those changes to your life. but like i said, i think you'd get the full picture on their effects on you after quitting
>>537982046SSRIs are just another part of the clown circus that is modern jewry, we are drinking fluoride water and consuming glyphosate while the jews get rich and laugh.
>>537989995>Anon claimed that serotonin based depression has been debunked, which is false."A systematic umbrella review published in Molecular Psychiatry in 2022 concluded that there is no consistent evidence linking depression to lowered serotonin activity or concentrations. The review found that methods to reduce serotonin availability did not consistently lower mood, and genetic studies showed no association between serotonin transporter genes and depression."https://www.nature.com/articles/s41380-022-01661-0Exposing the absence of evidence for the Serotonin Theory of Depression isn't quite the same as debunking it, I suppose.I once had a link to a nice article thoroughly explaining how the Serotonin Theory of Depression was conjured up by marketing teams and by researchers on the take like Charles Nemeroff and will try to find it to share it ITT for you.
>>537991013LMAOLongest study ever conducted on SSRIs was one year.You call that well-researched?
>>537991078>you always blame suicide on the illness.Because its literally caused by the ILLNESS you idiot. >go to doctor for broken knee.>get put in a leg cast.>REEEE my knee hurts because of the cast!!!Fucking retard.
>>537983208anyway yeah the only "science" that is settled is that SSRI's are pharmajooticle poisoned designed to dumb you down and accept the extremely unnatural circumstances we find ourselves in. this is just common knowledge. if any anons here are depressed you should really look into other stuff to boost your mood. something like this anons stack is a good starting point:>>537983920the only thing i would add is that you need to make sure they are high quality and in a bioassimilable form because the supplement industry is also jooed and alot of stuff just simply wont work because it is garbage tier.
>>537990605an alternative health practinioner onece told me "we only help people that are mindful and virtuous. for the rest, their sickness adversity is the cure for their soul".I dont accept alternative stuff not based in determinism and material effects though, i consider the great majority of alternative medicine occult/magical practices. Even if someone is temporary helped i think thats not for good in the long term. Ofc not all alternative medicine is non deterministic and quackery, but stuff based on fallen spirit action i avoid.
>>537991327it needs to be longer? 2 years? 5 years? someone's entire life? lmao ok buddy.
>>537991177>muh big farma.>everyone's out to get me!Seek help.
>>537991137they lowered my dose years ago ... I really have no complaints about my mental health. I am in a good place right now
>>537985403Doesn't sound fun at all. I take some shit a few times a week to get me through work. Low dose. I don't even feel it.
>>537990979No, commies are actually retarded. Marx argued that the poor uneducated worker class should forcibly seize all the means of production from the managerial class to create a utopia. The actual real life results of this stupid thought can easily be seen in any of the multiple black countries like Haiti, Zimbabwe or South Africa, where a bunch of worker class niggers started a revolution and killed all the white managerial class and seized all the means of production, and then realized they didn't wanna share or work any of that with other niggers so they just dismantled every single item they could get their hands for scraps to resell it and buy a bottle of moonshine, effectively destroying any hope of a sustained economy.
>>537991371Of course it does you fucking retard. People are on these drugs for decades. You can’t just fucking roll dice with peoples lives.
>>537982046>How the fuck are these drugs legal and widely prescribed?because the people are retarded
>>537990967your memeflag says it all go kys shill you need to go back...
>>537991243Lol i am literally not nor do I have any fucking reason to be.I took SSRI for YEARS and it helped me a lot.I want every person who strugles to be able to rid themselves of depression and build fighting mechanisms that will let them live their lives normally and happy.I am spreading this because I want to help like I was helped, if someone is too retarded to understand that then it's not my issue.
>>537982765My father didn't walk out on me because my bussy was fire. You should have been better.
>>537991191>stop taking the pills if you’re better nowthat's not how you are supposed to use antidepressants. that's like eating a meal to satiate hunger and then never eating again for the rest of your life because of that one time that you felt satiated
https://youtube.com/shorts/M_e506gYcxw?si=Eostg9UYOUJgAyDyI think this example fit best.
>>537982046I took them for like a year. Pretty meh. Going off was easy too. Just nausea and brain zaps for like a month. Kind of liked the brain zaps, kekgenerally taking SSRIs without doing therapy is retarded. They're supposed to increase your brain plasticity after a few months, but if you're not actively trying to change your behavior, that's completely wasted. Heck, maybe it's even worse, if you dwell on negative thoughts. Then you remodel your brain to be even more depressed. But that's just my speculation.
>>537991491Despite your schizoid fears my memeflag is in place because I dont want people that know me and browse this place to recognize me via flag, nothing to do with your delusions.
>>537991057>>537990748SSRIs are used for secondary symptoms of clinical depressionextended periods of depression causes shrinkage to areas affected by cortisol, the hippocampus and motivation pathways etcSSRIs after a period weeks to months reduce cortisol levels and symptoms of anxiety, low mood. poor motivation and anhedonia lessen, which for a major depressive person, if they laying in bed depressed thinking about suicide daily, now they have the actual energy ro commit seppuku, hence SSRIs are usually prescribed under the auspice of an adjoining cognitive therapy and the huge pamphlet they ALL come with, with a black boz warning about suicidal ideation
>>537991521this nigga comparing the use of hard drugs to eating foodLOLkeep munching on your goy poison faggot
>>537982450you're kind of required to take antipsychotics in some cases. Otherwise you're a danger to your surroundings
>>537991649Exactly this.
>>537982046No refunds
>>537982046wahh I can't self regulate and have zero self control so I need the fucking government to do it.shut the fuck up, limp wristed faggot.
>>537991409a lower dose is not the same as not taking it, at all. i've been there and told myself "i'm basically not taking anything, its a tiny dose" and when i stopped it still hit like a truckyou have no complaints but you'd have the full picture on how you are doing after fully quitting. like i said you may get feelings like>i dont like what my personality was like>i was an NPC>why didnt i care about this??and of course conversely, you would also enjoy things more and be happier about where you've gotten. enjoying things more can even lead to finding something new you enjoy doing. you'd just have more of a soul i think.you could talk about it to your doctor and do tiny dose reductions over months, i can already tell you won't because you think "im doing well right now", just giving you ideas for when you're ready. because if a drug is objectively harmful (despite of course having positive effects, sometimes needed) and changes you, then by definition, saying "i am in a good place now" is not a good argument to keep taking it
>>537991699Yes I already mentioned earlier that antideps need to be used with CBT and the serious side effects are prexisting issues and/or self inflicted.
>>537991356I was being facetious. The point I was making is that, if the chuds here who hate antidepressants are really so insistent on being against modern medicine, then they ought to turn to medieval backwards primitive medicine as well. Back then alchemy and astrology were considered real science, and not occult nonsense.So yeah, if you don't like SSRI medication, then try drinking mercury instead
>>537990984I hope you manage to reverse the effects. I've been one of the fortunate ones, for now at least... Any mental side effects could be masked, as my default state is to be anxious/depressed at this point
>>537982046Are you females? I put my ex gf on antidepressants because she kept moaning. I admit, she did stop moaning, but I kept finding her staring into the distance. The sex felt more like rape. So, I'm all for them for foids. If you're a man that takes them there is something seriously more wrong with you than being a bit depressed. Probably gay.
>>537982046You are not supposed to go cold turkey on them or this happens. Also obviously those drugs arent perfect, you are only supposed to take them if the big sad is affecting your life in a very serious manner, where these sideffects are not worse than not taking them.
>>537991209Nigger please, psychology and therapy have become modern codewords for 'feminist reindoctrination camp'. Therapy means paying a feminist, leftist, misandrist quirk chungus foid with severe mental issues herself 120$ an hour to tell you that all the problems in your life stem from your toxic masculinity or frail male ego and 'dangerous, extreme' political ideals and and that you should volunteer at a muslim refugee camp and let your wife fuck africans on the side to strengthen your bond or some other stupid foid shit.
>>537984575not sure what youd have to do to avtually be sent to a psychiatric ward, fights and killings happen every day and most of them just go to prison.
>>537991865Some of them would literally reject a panacea of immortality because of their self imposed delusions, it's kind of baffling honestly.
>>537984721good way to cure porn addiction ig
>>537982149> This video is age restrictedThe internet has become so appallingly lame.
>>537991466Science illiterates think you could know the long-term effects of taking a drug for 20 years, even if the chemical was only discovered 6 months ago, as long as you get>scientists in white lab coats>take it to the laboratory>run some tests using the test tubes>analyze it using the complex machinery>advertise it on TV
>>537984974>dies of exposure or sepsis in 3 daysThe animals are never the biggest danger
>>537992005Well I have no idea wtf is going on in your country anon but my therapist was male and he did a great job.None of that toxic mumbo jumbo you mentioned.Try fixing your society instead of blaming a valid medicinal practice.
>>537991248>you're doing a different drug nowNope. That's called medication. It's different because it actually helps you get healthy. Weed, cocaine, and alcohol never improved my life in this way.>happy about those changes to your lifeYes. Yes, I am. However those changes would not have happened if I hadn't gone to therapy and received medication to help with social anxiety and occasional depression.>i think you'd get the full picture on their effects on you after quittingNo thanks. I don't want to go back to being an overweight alcoholic drug addicted neet with no social life
>>537991204>I will never feel the same level of happiness I did before these drugs.your beliefs create your reality
>>537991949I didn’t go cold turkey on them.I weaned off over a period of six months. Doctor’s recommendation was one month.
>>537992131medicine should be freed from license requirements. Lets say i want to go to a guy and pay him for a health issue and i dont care about him having a degree or not, im just based on word of mouth. Nowdays this is illegal and he would get fined/jailed if this draws attention.There is a strict cartel about whats allowed and whats not in medicine.
>>537992543Milton Friedman proposed thishttps://youtu.be/rWlk9HreE7U?is=2rt8Y6sm2hX8SuLX
you need to taper off ssris very slowly. Your body supposedly might stop producing the serotonin you need at all. Anyways, these things are a scam. Serotonin is not an antidepressant, the entire notion that making people into serotonin zombies cures unhappiness or stress is a huge misnomer.
>>537992543I generally do agree with you but that can be really dangerous sadly.Scammers would profit a lot and potentially kill thousands before someone arrests/kills them.
>>537990382Thanks for your input reddit
Is it possible to reset your dopamine receptors or is it a meme?
>>537984721How does it ruin sexual function?I've been on ssris and have no problem with erections.
>>537991809I never wanted to quit taking it. Why would I want to quit? It helped to change my life for the better. They only lowered the dose I was taking because I was getting a little too sleepy sometimes. Aside from that, I have no complaints about where I am in life right now. I have had no experience of this objective harm from my antidepressant whatsoever. You are not supposed to care about those petty things that might trigger anxiety anyway. That's how medication and therapy work, anon! Becoming a paranoid depressed anxious schizo who obsessed over the tiniest incontinence because you quit antidepressants is not a good thing
>>537991336kill yourself kike nigger faggotno ones taking your jewish aluminium toxic waste
>>537982243>>537988637Depression can't hit a moving target. Don't stop trying. The body is a magnificent device capable of rewiring for emergent needs. Work out, volunteer, stop vidya unless friendslop with actual people.>When one is in pain practice compassion>When others are in pain...practice compassionDespite your foundations or soil, you can make others not feel theirs for at least a brief moment, or drastically change the lives of many. You will not know how it will feel. You do not know the future. Do not let your current emotions dictate your possible future ones. Yes...it sucks...it will probably suck again...but it also may suck less...may even be so incredible you'll wish you started sooner. Small or big, just keep moving. The turtle wins.
>>537983103get off the internet, read the classics, fast, do cardio
>>537992815I think you can sensitize or upregulate them. People who have messed themselves up in the drugs community report feeling normal again after a while as well so you might look up those experiences
>>537992749You're welcome, Dr. Chud.
>>537982046https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7mxq03o3QQf
>>537983404bro its literally a psyop datamining threadOP is a glowie, theyre honeypotting crazies.
Nearly 50% of white women take them, despite everything socially going their way.
>>537993684what, working stressful jobs they are not suited for, lacking a stable long term relationship, having sunk thousands of dollars into joke education tickets but not having good equity inflow, being atomized and isolated by shitty western society?Women have it better nominally, but the stats on female happiness speak for themselves. They were designed to have children in a family context and that's the one thing that isn't happening
>>537989995>>537991294This isn't the same article I had in mind, but it touches on the same subject of the serotonin theory of depression basically being a marketing ploy to sell to "happy pills" the public>Serotonin and Depression: A Disconnect between the Advertisements and the Scientific Literaturehttps://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1277931/
>>537992139You're on the defensive, which is natural. I understand that you're angry at me and fully expect you to respond negatively, it's ok, I still want to help.All I wanted to do was plant the seed for when you're ready, that's it. I know you'll think about it.
>>537993199So you're fundamentally broken, fundamentally unreasonable, can't figure out how to stop caring about petty things, and all your feelings should therefore be suppressed, in order to make you functional? You don't have reasonable feelings that would be worth experiencing naturally?I disagree, fren.>Becoming a paranoid depressed anxious schizo who obsessed over the tiniest incontinence because you quit antidepressants is not a good thingThat's a real risk you're right to worry about. This can be worked on by gradually lowering the dose and making a real attempt to try to be ok with less off the med, and eventually without it. You can just revert the small decrease if it goes wrong. That's what I did.
>>537988787>Banned from applying for NiH funding for two yearsFauci really made an example out of him, kek
>>537993503Wake me up when we can see the covid vaccine clinical trial data (as initially agreed to by the FDA), after the DNA contamination in Pfizers post 2021 batches and subversive change in production process have been addressed, and after the long term studies of the safety and efficacy of SSRIs have been published.Until then, make sure to keep getting your boosters and consider upping your zoloft dose.
>>537983691Shrooms work very well for anyone who actually knows meditation and psychology. All the previous techniques actually work really well once one starts using shrooms.
>>537993503Now that I think about it, if I had Chuds on the internet to listen to instead of trusting my doctors, I would have avoided 20 years of misery, including being rendered practically impotent in my teens by a supposedly harmless med.Dr. Chud is a hero.
>>537982046If SSRI's were good, they would be banned.
>>537984904Im lonely, hopeless, jobless and worthless. I have absolutely nothing to live for but I dont want to kill myself because thats both cowardly and selfish, and my parents dont deserve that shame. So, why should I NOT walk around high as a kite on whatever mixture of psychadelics the good doctor prescribes me? If i do them hard enough it might even lobotomize me into a normie. Getting enough out of life by eating cookies and watching a 90 minute cut of avatar sounds infinitely better than whatever this is.
>>537994889Dr. Chud is a schizo who needs to get properly educated on life
>>537982046idk but i'm pretty sure they make people narcissists. ssri = narcissist.
>>537990511>We were just discussing how a small megadosage of creatine once monthly rapidly repairs brain damage under high stress and basically recovers months of not sleeping well.i searched for that and if this is true "Just like what happens in your muscles during strength training, the brain consumes massive amounts of ATP (energy) when you are tired or stressed. Without sleep, the brain quickly runs out of fuel. Creatine acts as an 'external backup battery,' instantly recharging brain ATP and allowing neurons to keep functioning as if you had rested well, without causing the side effects of jitters or tachycardia produced by caffeine." then it traps adp and changes it to atp again, without the glucose pathway, it not cures you but can help you to low glucose caused by stress and fatigue, and a boost of energy but not a solution by itself alone.https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10902318/i think you mean this, i took a look and made a table with 5gr creatine intake, plus some things i need too :D as i forgot to search for them until now, i will tell if effective or not, as i almost don't sleep but stressing the brain the same as if i did, in my case:Creatine MonohydrateQuercetinAshwagandha (KSM-66)ApigeninWisteriaL-Threonate or Magnesium Glycinatethe purpose is to sleep 8h and reset the circadian system, and solve stress, fatigue and inflammation. 100% safe for me, if you allergic to magnesium then 100%unsafe for you, etc , but i have nothing to lose to try it
>>537994080I'm not angry at you. kek. I just think that you're a little bit misled by dumb internet memes, which I think is kind of funny
>>537994269>That's what I did.I hope that actually worked for you. I hope you truly are in a better place. However, I'm not going to risk giving up the life I have now by giving up on a truly life-altering medication
