UNFATHOMABLY BASED
>>538177703It's really not going to happen, we're going to go down the same as Native Americans did in history.
>>538177703No. That's called Theft.
>>538177703>billionaires relocateOkay now what?
>>538177969>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE POOR UNFORTUNATE BILLIONAIRES
>>538177703We will simply give them a call and tell them we will take 1%. That's how we got companies like Ikea to have their headquarters here. It's literally free tax money for us.
>>538177703First we need to know in which country he plans to spend those tax dollars.
Call it a hunch, but I suspect the wannabe commie's math doesn't math on this.
>>538177703That's antysemitic
>>538177703People have seen the "pass a tax on the rich, leave in loopholes, expand the tax to everyone to make up for the loopholes" cycle too many times to not be skeptical about yet another "trust us, we're really going to tax the wealthy this time" law.
>>538177703the billionaires are just going to inflate the economy until the $12,000 is worthless, and then they'll blame it on the people as usual.
>>538178017Now you pay up or get hunted down and dragged out of your bunker kicking and screaming by the trillion dollar military.
>>538178204I remember reading somewhere that if you took the top 1000 richest Americans killed all of them and liquidated their entire holdings, it would fund the federal government for about a month.So yeah I sincerely doubt that a 5% tax on 900 billionaires equates to a $4.2trillion annual payout. This is some Common Core math.
Universal basic income needs to eliminate all other social programs and entitlements to be beneficial. He says family but without first removing the incentives for women to divorce and have children out of wedlock it is just single mothers.
>>538177703fuck off poopjeet meme flag faggot shlomo kek
>expand Medicare The whole healthcare system needs to be dismantled and rebuilt not throwing money at a subsidy wall and seeing what sticks! The only jobs being added to the economy are healthcare, if we expand Medicare we expand the shitty overpriced system to even higher prices and if Medicare is reworked the economy suffers hahahahahah
>>538177703I agree with taxing billionaires, but I dont agree with how the left wants to spend the money. Make healthcare free for all Americans with heavy government auditing thrown in for overcharges/fraud and pay down the debt would be the best way to spend the money.
>>538178001We’re just taking back what (((they))) stole from us
>>538178275YepWhite middle class always pays for socialist gibs then are denied the gibs themselves.You can't just force someone to sell stock because union pensions, 401ks and index funds rely on the stock market not having a massive sell off and plummeting in value.Bernie the jew knows full well what would happen because he wants a European style pension and not private pensions that way you are a slave to the feds and more migrants are needed every year
>>538177703>taxing billionairesalright lets do i->so we csn give retarded niggers that money to buy more nikes and amazon chinkshitah. still a slave to the jewish gdp pyramid scheme, huh? thats a shame.
>>538178017are you retarded you motherfuckin bitch? weimericanos have to pay yearly fealty to weimerico regardless of whether they're living in the country or not. fucking dumb ass.
>>538177703inflationary nonsenselook what happened to the price of discretionary items since covid
>>538178573If someone becomes a billionaire based on a speculative financial system decoupled from gold you in fact did not have anything stolen from you, if anything the government reduced your purchasing power by printing money to give to them. Not their fault the government opened its coffers to appease them.
>>538178151the dutch acting jewish? you faggots are as bad as the british you kiked pieces of fucking faggot nigger shit, fuck you bitch. i would slap you in the fuckin face if you ever opened your cocksucker in front of me irl.
>>538178017to where? another totally controlled globohomo shithole?wanna go to north korea? guess what, you just turned your 5% tax into a situation where everything you couldn't fit on the plane has been seized (so a 99.999% tax at minimum)the moment you try to move your money, the omniscient surveillance apparatus flags you as a criminal and your rights are fully suspended and all of your assets are seized.
>>538177703Bernie’s a hypocrite
>>538177703Once upon a time, 1917 in Russia..."Poor people, I will take the wealth from the rich and give it all to you! It will be paradise for you!"
eww.... brother eww...
>>538177703ITT: Billionaire's lackeys and arselickers.
>>538177703Nah, fuck teacher pay (don't let anyone tell you teachers are underpaid. They're fucking liars. Nowhere in the country are teachers paid badly in ANY public school system) and fuck medicare. >Every FAMILY $12kThere are about 318 million actual citizens. You could cut every CITIZEN a $1k/monthly check with that, and have about $575 billionish left. Pay down the debt with that if you're going to do anything with it at all.And the problem with the 5% number is >five percent of WHATPlease articulate the rules and explain precisely how and when you assess the value of the wealth you want to tax and how it is done.A much easier thing to do would be to tax all loans with paper collateral the same as income so everyone could just shut the fuck up Fuck that. You can
>>538177703I've been trying to get Bernie through presidential primaries for 3 elections. It's not meant to be.
>>538178017Private equity stops buying up every industry and raising your costs.
>>538177703Thieves are the lowest.
billionaires are cancer feeding off the working man. Jewish money shufflers and WASP pedophiles feeding off the weak and vulnerable.kill them allburn them clean
>>538177703> 5%The maths arnt mathing for me on this.Also I believe the combined total wealth of top 938 people is about 9trillion. Theres about 330,000,000 people in the USA. We would have to tax 50% or more of the top earners. Honestly reasonable in my opinion, but will never happen.Alternatively, to cut $12,000 check per person, we could do 5% but only 1in8 gets the check, but how to decide who? This line only leads back to the same wealthfare situation we have now as best solution.
>>538177703We need to start charging him for every word he says.That'll solve many problems.
>>538178017Where they gonna go? Israel? America is the only country in the world where elites have total free reign to rape and pillage. Anywhere else they get death sentences. Maybe they can hide in Eurocuck land and get bombed and killed like what just happened in MonacoElites are now fleeing to south america where they will get promptly raped while hiding in their enclaves or >new zealandLol
>>538177703
>>538177703Yes, the brilliant "fortune tax"... Whenever Elon Musk goes out, his pocket is filled with 1 trillion dollars! It would selfish of him to not share that fortune, right?Reality is, this money is placed in companies, so what retard here is suggesting is that they dismantle their companies so they can pay this tax. Bernie knows how to run these companies better than them after all, they are 100% replaceable.How about closing up tax loopholes instead? No, that would hit his own pockets too hard!
>>538178431It might stop the government enriching those dead people with government contracts to rob you and spy on you.
>>538178017You tell them if they leave you'll seize their property and assets and demand their extradition back to the US where upon arrival someone cuts their heads off in public on livestream
More imaginary problems, made up by pedophile on 4chan, where the self-loathing virgin comedy never stops!
>>538178637The stock market shouldn't exist.
>>538177703>he trusts a jewNGMI
>>538178832Boo hoo faggot. Maybe if you were worth the effort for the Dutch government to give you a custom tax deal, you wouldn't whine so much. Imagine calling us kikes for offering you to pay less tax. Tell me what you know about the federal reserve.
>>538177703>Get taxed on $12K Gov Gibs>Pay the Indoctrinators to better Indoctrinate>Expand the most fucked .Gov Insurance ScamYeah that will all work out well.
>>538177703God I hate poors.
>>538179195The math doesn't work because it's all held in stock which will plummet in value once each 5% of their gross holdings is forced to be sold. So if there's 10 billionaires with Apple and other tech stocks and they are forced to sell that off then the NASDAQ collapses and Bernie doesn't get his money. The teacher's union pensions then collapse too as they will have a funding crisis and be unable to keep paying members.Anytime some retard leftist floats a stupid idea simply try and simulate it yourself and immediately you will find a billion problems.
>>538177703Tax a billionaire trillionaire how they have no income for the most part it’s rolled into their business you can’t tax the usury taken from the bank in lieu of something something loopholes. Get fucked champagne socialists. You all are evil acting as if they give a shit about any thing other than power
>>538178365>>538179174i like you
>>538179195I was about to say, contrrary to most of these bullshit memes, the latter half of this DOES compute. But what the total billionaire network is is another story.If it is 9 trillion, then yes, that '5%' is an awfully convenient typo and should have been 50%, ignoring most of that wealth is in stock assets and the like. Liquidating even 5% of it wouldn't be practical.On the other hand, if they want to take 5% of these assets, stuff them into a sovereign wealth fund of some sort, and cut dividends and the like, the situation is very different. Checks wouldn't be that significant, but they would be on going, and it would still serve any billionaire to continue investing in so far as they want to get those dividends back through the consumer economy. Something very much on the table. Forces some of that purely speculative investor recycling to be turned toward actual products, not the incestuous AI 'investment' going on at present (as an illustration).This will be rife with many of its own problems, including political motivation to prop up wealth fund assets because now EVERYONE is functionally invested in these select corporations. And much like perverts propping up SS by any means necessary, much to the detriment of future generations, the same will apply here.but I digress. That's entertaining the notion as far, where the math for cut-checks was actually correct for once. Won't be giving the same benefit of the doubt again, considering it appears the rest of the other important number were wrong by an order of magnitude. And that likely wasn't accidental
>>538177703if you give basically everyone free money won't everything just be more expensive?
>>538178151Yes. And then theres tariffs lol. Or even full blown blockades. Its not like the US is a small market.I still remember seeing Musk cucking out when facing Brazil over some shit as soon as Lula threatened to block X. Short story short: "either you lose 100 or lose 300! Make your move".
>>538178573When did you have a billion dollars?
>>538178573you wont see a dime of it. its going to the niggers, dumb goy
>>538179890well so far if you only give the top few people money it's been making things more expensive
>>538178001Kikes stole from you more
>>538179927Oh now you niggers like tariffs
>>538178017yeah, elon musk is going to drop his new house in fucking indiayou fucking retarded conservatives always say this, that talking point never works
>>538177703What's israel's cut?
i just use the term "right"
>>538177703what a fucking retard lmao
>>538177703B-B-Based
>>538177703>socialists cant into mathWhat? No way!
>>538177703Well, it's either that or this 250 year old experiment quickly comes to an end.
>>538177703>lets give a handout to the most financially illiterate people on the planetfuck no. I'd rather see all of you dying of plague and famine than to give you a drop of water undeserved.
Always using gibs and handouts to bribe for votes...Dems are snakes that dangle that carrot but you never get what they promise you but you do get further destruction of this country when you elect them...
>>538177703just send us the fucking money don't "raise teacher pay" those cunts are overpaid already they only work 10 months a year. Medicare expansion fine if it is completely medicare for all single payer and I can ditch my employer paid one
>Approve to tax billionaires 5%>Literally in 24h they have a new loophole that makes them avoid the tax completely>(you) now have to pay for the tax they were supposed to because the government already made plans to spend itYou can tax the rich as much % as you want, it's never going to work.
>>538178017Make them pay a 95% goodbye fee.
>>538177703Somehow the middle class will end up paying for it.
>>538179476It's how you distribute wealth.4000+ employees of SpaceX are now millionaires. You and me make a company and lure the best talent to run it by giving them a stake in the profits of the business.The better the business does the richer the employees get. Otherwise you are a wagie with no wealth at all and no retirement.
>>538178705Only citizens do, if they renounce their citizenship they don't pay a dime in tax to the US in future filings.
>>538178431>So yeah I sincerely doubt that a 5% tax on 900 billionaires equates to a $4.2trillion annual payout. This is some Common Core math.It assumes the average billionaire has about 93 billion dollars which doesn't sound too insane.
>>538178001>it's okay when its trumpbucks thowhy are miggers like this?
>>538177703Hello, fellow kidsYOU LOSThow are you going to get anything passed when you're helping elect the most repulsive commie faggots possible, everyone hates your controlled opposition ass, faggot
>>538180253Alright, then the only other alternative is to kill em. Sad to say. But we can't let such damaging forces be allowed in society without being caged.
>>538178573Then go after the global banking mafia anon. You sound like one of those that hates private landlords more than Blackrock. Communists have never even remotely understood what true communism would actually cost. And the ones that did just lie their asses off about it because they plan to be the 1% at the top while the other 99% are the slaves.
>>538180492>Pay money to renounce citizenshipWhy can't I just burn my passport like the good ole days?
>>538180651Do it, eat em if you like it, it won't work, more will pop out.It's like rapefugees, you can deport 1 million of them, go to sleep and have 2 million more when you wake up.
>>538177703$4.4 trillion is 2% of the total wealth ($167 trillion) in the United States. Given that the top 1%, which is already more than just the billionaires, owns only 33% of the total wealth, Bernie is going to have to tax a lot more people’s wealth or take a lot more of the wealth of a few to make his numbers work. But he knows that. He just thinks everyone else is too stupid to check his math.
>>538177703>jew wants to take White assets and transfer them to jews and brownoid immigrants.no thanks schlomo.
>>538180494One thing those billionaires can do if forced to sell 5% stock is all sell their holdings of Citibank or Vanguard which are both Democrat donors. Obama's first cabinet was hand picked by a Citibank exec in the Podesta email leak.Now all of them can dump that stock while at the same time running a hedge fund shorting those companies. Bernie gets no money as the shares plummet and the billionaires make back all their losses.This is 100% legal too and why these toy schemes by commie jews never work in the real world
>>538178017Who cares? They're transnational elites they're not even American
>>538177703>caps their net worth at 999 million and then makes a new entity under a 501 c3 that they control the spending of why do progressives have no foresight?
>>5381777035% tax a year on unrealised gains? How can someone be so fucking dumb.
>>538178001I'd say it'd be pretty fair if you tax everyone equivalent to their net worth.I'd also be pretty fair to have free energy and resonant technology be released to the public rather than darpa having to steal it.But you know. Baby steps first.
>>538180817Idk seemed to work for Japan when they did it. Resulted in an economic boom for a time. And now whenever prices rise companies have to apologize publicly for it. Plus their housing are not investment, but commodities.Say what you will about their work culture, but you can't deny that their curbing of the Zaibatsu ultimately helped the average Japanese person move into a high standard of living.
>>538180912public sector pensions on suicide watch
>>538181224Well, do it then, it's like all upsides
>>538177703No, I couldn't imagine a worse use for $4.4 trillion than direct stimmy checks, paying the world's shittiest teachers more money, and subsidizing the healthcare of people with no impulse control. Not to mention the fact that it's an inherently unsustainable tax and the monetary value of the "wealth" obtained via wealth tax will shit the bed when every rich person is forced to liquidate their assets at the same time and the market tanks. The only scheme that could work is the government printing money to cover the assets at market value, which would have even more retarded outcomes.
>>538178017HUNT THEM DOWN AND TAKE ALL THEIR MONEY
>>53817796995% of us will die to smallpox?
>>53817770312K is nigger payWake me up when its 120K
>>538177703No. Tax me less and I will get more in my paycheck every 3 months.
>>538178017Leftist don't know they're just going to buy Cuba and live there.
>>538177703i'd support it ifa. >>538179992b. he also didn't want to import infinity jeets and other shitskins.i'm happy with socialism as long as it's national socialism. Most people simply are natsocs if you ask them enough questions.
>>538177703Define "expand medicare." Is that "give insurance CEOs more money to hire child prostitutes for government officials" or "single payer health care?"
>>538178001Murdering people and stealing their stuff is the American way, traitor.
>>538177703A little too high to be based. Halve it and it's zakat thus utterly based.
>>538178001Those cunts originally stole that money from the people through the bullshit concept called "trickle down economics". Tax the shit out of them. If they bitch, kill them and take it all.
>>538181843so is killing niggers and natives.
>>538178001>No. That's called Theft.Interesting that you capitalized "Theft." It's important to you, I presume?Anyway, theft is how these leaches got wealthy in the first place.Take every last cent and redistribute it. Let them start over from scratch. If they really earned that wealth by the sweat of their own brow, then they'll be rich again in no time.
>>538178001i mean from a first principle perspective, what really is theft? what is ownership? why can't i just kill you and take your stuff? i mean i know these are "obvious" questions, but when you really brake it down you very quickly either end up appealing to religious laws, and we all know the can of worms that is, or atheistic nihilism.I'd argue from a volksmoralisch, people's or ethno-morality, perspective that as long as it gains the people it's usually a net positive.
>>538177703Now you know why average Americans hate him, dumped him twice.
>>538177703fix those sectors first
>>538178001>No. That's called Theft.REMEMBER WHEN YOU WERE TOUTING THOSE DOGE CHECKSPETRIGE FARMS
>>538177703since the US budget already has a deficit of more than 3 trillion wouldn't it better to pay this than buying votes ?
>>538178017Japan
>>538177703>just give this worthless, lazy, financially irresponsible kike your money. >why would we cut our bloated and corrupt spending>just give me more money goy :3
Pretty sure ultra rich don't have cash laying around to be taxed, all of their worth is tied up in investment, much of that driving the economy.
>>538177703Yes i agree with that.>>538178001read Capital Vol 1 by Karl Marx or shut the fuck up>>538178017kill them. pretty simple.
>>538178017kidnap them from wherever they ran to. duh.
>>538180416The problem with that is that the stockholders become the new boss, especially the stockholders who own the most shares. The business then becomes about giving the most dividends to stockholders instead of reinvesting that money into the business, and paying your employees a livable wage. It's what Henry Ford got kiked out of when he tried to do exactly that.
>>5381777035% of what? Theoretical networth? So they have to liquidate 5% of assets every year and thus depress evaluations of things that are getting liquidated to pay taxes? Year after year of this. Retarded. Communists can't generate or maintain a prosperous country. Commu it's are evil scum. Worthless shit-eating filth.
>>538178017>>billionaires relocate>Okay now what?TAKE SEALTEAM SIX AND PASS AN ACT CALLED THE LUIGI ACT (to trigger the rich lol) THAT LETS THEM FIND THE BILLIONAIRS AND FORCE THEM TO PAY TAXES
>>538177703No.
>>538177703Billionaires literally dont exist. They dont have a billion dollars. Its all fake and gay net worth based on a hypothetical>akschually if he sold all of his shares of the stock at [current price] then he would have a gorillion dollar pile of moneyOnly that giraffe lady that divorced Bezos had a billion dollars and she was so confused by what to do with it she set it on fire. No one has a billion dollars to collect tax on. Its all fake shit. The day you have to pay real money in the form of taxes on this fake shit is the day it all unwinds.
>>538182944>yesIf Trump said he wanted to do it
>>538177703>raise teacher payNo. Teachers are already overpaid entitled cunts. They make more than median wages in almost every state despite doing almost no work whatsoever (aside from brainwashing children into all manner of clown world degeneracy) and they only "work" like 2/3 of the year.
>>538182963>Billionaires literally dont exist. They dont have a billion dollars. Its all fake and gay net worth based on a hypotheticalthen I guess they better find the money somehow or else
>>538177703are there literally no natsocs left on /pal/?i feel like a stranger in my own dysfunctional home.
Treat any loan that is taken out with stock shares as collateral as income with a tax of 5% and you can fund virtually everything needed and the billionaires will still be billionaires.
>>538178017Confiscate personal and corporate assets and make new branded products/services with those seized corporate assets and sanction any products or services their businesses do in other countries.
>>538177703>Its another "let's have an unrealized capital gains tax" threadOnly people who subscribe to the "Own nothing and be happy" mindset would support something that stupid
>>538183062>are there no natsocs leftBro, it was always just trolling kiddies.The internet isn't real. I know that's hard to accept.
>>538181176>Net Worth Taxmfw these poor niggers will do literally anything to steal my money. get a job you stupid faggots, if i invest in stock options and the stock goes up you shouldn't be getting that from me- you shouldn't get money from me based off my retirement funds, ANY of my job income, and you certainly shouldn't be getting money from the government for shitting out 1000 niggers every day into the streets of manhattan. i hope you people fucking die for even the suggestion you're entitled to single cent i've shed actual blood for
>>538183153make a fast food restaurant where Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk, Donald Trump and all the AI CEOs are forced to work 40 hours a week making food THAT THEY PAY FOR, for normal people
>>538183004This is true. I even remember this one teacher from my high school who collected so much PTO time that she was gone half the year and got paid for it. And mind you, this was back in the early 2000s when education was less in a fucked state than it is now.
>>538181492https://www.dshs.texas.gov/news-alerts/measles-outbreak-2025Close enough
>>538177703Billionaires don't even declare income, they keep all of their assets liquid.
>>538183383And, last I checked, you don't get taxed on your net worth.
>>538183383hurr durr the ultra rich just dont have the money to pay taxes ok!!!!
>>538177703>>538183161Also a 5% tax on billionaires wouldnt raise 4.4 trillion dollars. It would raise like 500 billion at the absolute most
>>538182750>Either give me your money or die!You sound like you support Israel.
>>538183477turn that shit up then retard
>>538183383>>538183427They have a whole team of tax attorneys who know how to navigate Title 26 tax code and know all the loopholes and everything, so they pay as little tax as possible to the IRS. I mean kinda based, fuck the IRS, but I wish the little guy could do the same.
>>538177703Sanders is a fucking jew cuck
Every stupid nigger in this thread acting as if billionaires are the problem when every western nation has been saddling the entire third world as a tax burden. Just let the fucking africans die. They're retarded. Stop spending my tax money on stupid welfare moms who are going to raise another niglet like karmelo anthony. I'm sick of pretending like human life is genuinely meaningful when for my entire life these parasites have been draining my veins to sell their EBT for mascara. FUCK NIGGERS WHO WANT MY MONEY.
>>538183257fair enough, i think i'm just gonna take a complete break from SM for at least a month maybe.I'm tired, Hitler.
>>538179018Found the faggot
>>538183555the billionaires are making sure israel gets to do what it wants. time to wake up
>>538183790I don't care about Israel genociding brown babies and I think its good in fact.
>>538177703>902 billionaires>combined net worth of $7.8T>5% of 7.8T is 4.4TSeems legit.
No. Replace Medicare and medicaid with a new singlepayer system and force all health insurance companies to liquidate all assets and put them into the national healthcare fund. Healthcare insurance shouldn't exist. It doesn't matter what you do to such an insidious industry either, it's already justified. They owe the entire population reparations by default. Who gives a fuck if they call any of it theft? They're parasites that provide absolutely no value to anyone or anything. Risk pooling can be done by a fucking monkey.
>>538181843Kek
>>538178204>>538178431I asked google and it used forbes as main source... Here:"The top 900+ billionaires in the United States hold a combined net worth of approximately $6.89 trillion. This staggering figure represents the combined wealth of roughly 900 to 920 American individuals, who account for nearly a third of all billionaires worldwide."
>>538177703Can't wait for this commie kike to finally fuck off to hell
The only reason I actually support this is because the rich are too entitled and I want to see them suffer for once. Plus now that the supreme court gave the president authoritarian powers it should be very fun to force them into line on pretty much anything.
>>538180651Are you talking about the israelis and their paid agents occupying our government?
>>538184083>Authoritarian powers>Every day some nigger judge overturns a ruling to say illegal immigrants are citizens who should votemakes sense to me
>>538177703I’m starting to hate rich people so much I’m with him on this
>>538178017Fat exit tax
>>538178017This. Commies keep saying they'll use force and lock the country down to get compliance. USSR could not survive without a wall and nor can any commietard country.
>>538182889This.
Bernie constantly does this bit where he pretends the government -- which creates money -- doesn't have enough money already to do the things he wants to do.
>>538184433thats the way republicans operate, the left wants to tax
>>538178506Medicare and Medicaid cost less than the private healthcare industry.The issue with what Bernie is saying is the idea that the government doesn't already have the money -- the federal government creates money. The only question is whether the real world resources exist to support the delivery of goods and services in the real world that the money is spent on.Do we have the doctors, hospitals, industrial capacity? If the answer is no, can we train them? Can we build them? It's a very simple process -- so simple that people think themselves right out of it.Whatever the government can PHYSICALLY DO it can afford.It is NEVER the other way around.
