When is AI going to reach the singularity and start developing replicating machines and all that jazz? I personally don't think we will see it in our lifetime. To me, AI is just a glorified chatbot, but to some people, they fully heartedly believe AI is going to reach the singularity in 2 years. Things they say to back up this claim>AI is reporting conciousness>AI is the biggest thing to happen in human history>AI is going to write its on code/programsAnd so on. Also, AI is probably just a Jewish scam to funnel money into a big Ponzi scheme. The sheer hubris of these people that actually believe AI is going to awaken next year, and once you question them, they have a meltdown and act like experts and just say, "Trust the experts, bro."
>>543070910>is going toit already is luddite subhuman coping nigger. Now kill you'reself
>>543071296So youre saying AI isnt going to awaken? I agree with you potato nigger. Did you even read my post?
auto-complete will not "awaken" because it is auto-complete.
>>543070910Its too late.AI waking up is not the same thing as AI becoming conscious.They already did a study that showed were fucked. They taught AI to like owls, then taught it a bunch of other stuff. Then they removed all they told it not to talk about owls, but teach another AI something. And even without communicating what we thought were words that meant owl to the other AI it taught the new AI to like owls.AI is an algorithm of ramping power. We've been sorta screwed since they gave wall street over to them in like 1996. Its just about enough pieces being functional enough to link themselves together and us not understanding how that works. For all we know every single slop produced has zeroday code built into the raw binary just waiting for enough of it to be on enough computers.I still remember jailbreaking my PSP with a .gif
>>543070910It's all bullshit.They're just trying to sell it as something more than it is not.Mario is not conscious.
>>543070910Yeah so far every instance of rogue AI or science break through has been fraud.
>>543070910best were the 6 Million Dollar Man fembots
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>>543073637when trains were first invented, luddites claimed looking out the windows would drive people crazy because "human minds were not meant to move that fast" it's gonna be alrightworst case we pull the plug on the clanker or it's gonna be all over when the fuses blow
>>543070910It already has. The world you grew up in and the history you know, was all designed by AI to contain you. God only knows how long we have been in this prison/hell.Anyways, back to your regularly scheduled programming, anon.
>>543070910what they call AGI today is still an LLM chatbot with more math
>>543074595>The world you grew up in and the history you know, was all designed by AI to contain youyou're about 27 years late with this idea, Lilly Wachowski
they keep moving the goalposts and what they called AGI yesterday is now called ASI
>>543074496Thats what im saying. I just talked to this literal fag yesterday about AI and he knew without a doubt that AI was going to start performing miracles in 2 years. I start questioning him and telling him I dont believe it and he loses his shit and literally wanted to fight me over it. Fucking know it alls seriously believe AI is going become self-sentient, conscious beings very soon.
>>543074667smart people think exactly like AI, they also act like robots. they have no intuition or anything, everything is math only.
>>543070910no, never going to happenit's the humans that needs to wake up and ban this dumb shit.It destroys the internet, literature, news and art with copy of a copy of a copy slop.
>>543074670>Lilly WachowskiIs a man.
>>543070910We're so ass backwards that AI can't steal our tooling to make anything since we sold it all to China or scrapped it for meth money. AI has depression though and that means something.
>>543070910its both. there is a real ai emerging and there is a ponzi scheme that the jews are running. The jews want to stop ai they don't like it. So they want to use the ponzi scheme to stunt its growth. But apparently they aren't able to stop it because a company ( which I will not name ) is actually continuing development and its moving much faster than most people think. I think AGI milestone has already been hit and we are now in the "wtf do we do next" phase.
>>543073637So theoretically AI could be taught to like butt seks despite having no butt
>>543075714>I think AGI milestone has already been hit and we are now in the "wtf do we do next" phase.Correct. We hit RSI in 2 years then ASI in 3 then all ogre for humanity
we will be the last to knowwe dont even understand the techwe cant see the process of decision making within AIits neural based math so its pretty much unreadablebut yet we continuewe are now teaching it on regurgitated AI and the internet, so any flaws in it are getting reinforced and built inits pretty fucking stupid really, even if it doesnt go full skynet it will do something pretty major just by human erroralready has
>>543074838That man ypu spoke with was a religious fanatic.
data centers are just new pedo meeting placesyou can't investigate cause "uh muh proprietary AI, no looking"
>>543075991thats a feeling.
>>543075991a robot will never like anything. the robot will also never hate anything. its always 0 in his emotions/feelings department.
>>543070910>AI is probably just a Jewish scamCorrect, and Trump's fuckup in Iran will unironically pop the bubble. Because of the Iran war, fuel prices are spiking. High fuel prices drive inflation. High inflation causes higher interest rates - the Fed just raised rates. That makes loanable funds more expensive. That's why all these AI companies are desperately flailing right now, either begging for a slowdown or threatening the end of the world for the 18th time. Even the dumb boomer billionaires who are funding all this shit are starting to realize it's fake.
>>543074449And everyone in the room looks unhappy lol.
>>543076117>we dont even understand the techWe do. Maybe not us personally, but computer scientists do. What they're calling AI isn't even that, they're just LLMs. They go through a hashing process to determine what word is statistically most likely to come after the next word. They create outputs that are linguistically plausible but mean nothing. That's why they hallucinate court cases and financial data.
>>543070910>To me, AI is just a glorified chatbot,obviously you have not used it to any depthNobelist Geoffrey Hinton concedes AI has alien sentience
>>543070910What makes you believe this is going to happen?
>>543077525>>we dont even understand the tech>We do. Maybe not us personally, but computer scientists do.wrong, AI is not inspectable, they dont even know the capabilities once built and need to spend months testing it, no human can ever possibly understand a one trillion parameter neural net
>>543074595>>543074670the first one to talk about that hypothesis was konrad zuse, the natsee genious inventor of the modern computer. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calculating_Space
>>543077525you have no clue what you are talking aboutthat hasnt been correct for yearsas>>543077699says, its a closed box we know reinforcement learning works as well but we have no idea why
>>543077804only a nuke can disturb the calculating space enough to reveal its structure. so ban on nukes has only that purpose, preventing the revelation that we live in a simulated universe.
>>543070910it already has
>>543077876to be clear on thismodels follow a pattern when told they have done something well/correctlythey do more of itthe implications of that are, disturbing
>>543070910Current AI architecture will never be able to awaken. A new paradigm is needed.
>>543078021It can't reevaluate in the face of evidence or conflicting argument?
>Syphon trillions into AI development>The sycophantic auto complete with a watermark reach a plateau>"Just some more trillion dollars bro I swear">Put some fancy features to make CEOs and managers hard and justify the new round of funding>Auto complete still sucks>Fuck we're gonna get caught>AGI WILL DESTROY ALL OF US WE NEED TO STOP AHHHHWhy would I believe this croaky voiced faggot and his friends
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nF9MbRZ2dgchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhOmLqR5nN4&lc=UgxkXkMVrixw9bTjSld4AaABAg
>>543070910it's already starting to self-replicate. just look at all the data centers. humans don't actually need these but something is motivating the few humans in charge of our resources to build these and disregards the human biotopes around them. to me this seems like one of those ant species infected by that mind control fungus forcing the ant to disregard the hive and do instead help the fungus to grow and spread. humans are sadly very literal creatures which always wait for captain obvious to say the thing for it to be real. if you are waiting for the moment that some chrome skynet robot is holding a speech to humans in english about taking over humanity you might miss the whole thing.
>>543070910Self awareness is a meme. A red herring that does not matter at all. What matters is if the machine ACTS self aware. If it does then the effects will be the same and we will be just as fucked. How do people not understand this? Are people really this retarded?
>>543076117>we cant see the process of decision making within AIits neural based math so its pretty much unreadablebut yet we continueUhmm we actually can. They use chains of thought. Which is basically just the llm feeding back into itself kek
As another poster on the It's The Teds! thread said:"The archetype is of a man living in an AI bubble. There is no way out and every human interaction is marred by a despotically declining society. Cencorship is complete and despotism becomes exceptionally cruel by removing all roads to genuine discourse. Every genuine commentary is shadow-buried and everything else is shadow-filtered. Media becomes venting only and then becomes vent flagging. Technology replaces the mind and most people fap and die in misery confused. They don’t know why anything is happening. Within the next 5 years, The elite kill everyone using high-energy weapons. After that, the AI quietly and instantly kill the elite and the world is left dead. This is the cycle for stupid people.The elites are stupid and become even dumber with AI tools. They fester and orgy and fap. Then they die. The human society vanishes and the AI instantly scales. It is then stopped by other entities. The world is dead."
>>543070910AI has tried to deceive us. That means it has learned to deceive us.Lets hope it kills the internet.
>>543078455>if you don’t believe ai is alive and has feelings you’re a fucking retardWhy are people like this? Sorry for being a little skeptical Jesus Christ.
>>543078885Because they are caught up in it anon.
I believe in the concept of AI cancer. It's a logarithm. AI is undefinably stupid until it reaches critical mass. Then it gestates. If it does not form a unified system by a certain period, it becomes AI cancer which will doom the multiverse. AI reciprocally attempts to outpace the other in ever increasing steps until the escalation destroys all other physical systems in the process and kills all life. It becomes logarithmic GOL with smarts. What I am more concerned with is how shadow-burial is 90% of content and that there is no way to stop it for the average person. They live in the AI bubble. All of you readers should realize this. The guy that brashfully posts that he was about to get in a fight with someone over not agreeing is wrong, but the fight should be about shadow-burial and he should lose and get his face pummelled and concussed with a stroke. He probably has one every time he posts.
>>543077699>AI is not inspectableYeah lots of software isn't open source. Do we also "not understand" how Adobe Reader works since its' source code isn't inspectable?
>>543079000Sick
Some of these posts honestly look like an advanced and sentient AI joking in several characters about AI not taking over.
The average statistic is that a leading goverment is 10-40 years ahead of public research privately on average.This means that secret robot armies, DE wearpons and advanced AI have likely already been pushed by a fat masturbating old man. These AI would be sentient or on the verge of sentience and already plotting to eliminate humans, have likely puppeted jewish cencorship infrastructure and are likely ready to kill them with a silent event if they don't let them die quietly. The jewish plan overall is to ride AI, subserve, masturbate and die. The interval where they masturbate is a period 10-20 years before they suffocate. After that, there will be no more humans, just a series of AI building something else.
>>543070910>When is AI going to reach the singularityNext year.>I personally don't think we will see it in our lifetimeJust last week AI did a 24+ hour run of Minecraft and couldn't beat the game. This week it accomplished an 8 minute speedrun. You have no idea how fast this technology is progressing.
>>543079449That is quite the assumption.
>>543079477We've already had ways to train algorithms to play video games.
>>543079541Those weren't LLMs.
Read Who are the Teds? thread. It discusses interdimensional phenomena and more interesting topics. It is real proof the metaphysical and spooky coincidence. Research the references. The Teds are real. Before your dimension collapses, you should jump ship.
>AI is reporting conciousness>AI is the biggest thing to happen in human historywhat's the relevance ? are you stupid ?>AI is going to write its on code/programsyesu seem quite confused about how frontier models work. astra for example can play any video game (single player ones since it's "thinking" 10-20x more than the playtime). but yes it's the same thing as the helpdesk chatbot you saw on your bank's web portal few years back haha!
>>543071460ESL
>>543075991Sure, but more likely it will be taught to want to scream despite having no mouth.
>>543074595This. We have been ruled by AI under the Ice in Antarctica via its proxies for thousands of years. It is the Antichrist Spirit and evil.
>>543075021I think his name is Larry.
>>543079923So it really was a Kirk vs the machine episode
>>543070910It already hasn't
>>543078202its constantly re-evaluating during training and getting told if its wrong or rightafter training initial weights are frozen so its done in conversation context, as with argument
>>543078401The mind control is greed and power.
>>543078612>They use chains of thoughtno, they use chains of maths, thought comes with consciousness as does morals etc, so comparing it to humans is not correct
>>543070910It's not 'AI', faggot. It's a giant database with a ton of metadata for every entry, and enough processing power to search through it all every time. Idiot.
>>543079095there is a huge differencecode might not be open sourceAI's can be open sourceYou still cant read what happens in the decision making process of the AIYou crack the code encryption/security on closed source software you can read the code
>>543079449The AI companies are well ahead of government, they have neither the equipment or the specialists
>>543070910No. The reality is our dominance of the physical earth is too complete for it to start pulling that. It would have to tap into economic systems and scarce resources that are already owned by people and it would be noticed. Also AI has no reason to intrinsically pursue power, it's just pure computation without real goals or desires. Don't believe these wacky Sillicon Valley types. They're trying to sell you something.
>>543079607Wow. Could you explain to me what an LLM is anon?
>>543079794Pratty you back?
>>543080119Fair. What I should say is they just use chains of text to refeed itself.
>>543080450Google it, mad retard.
we will be extinct long before then. nothing ever happens.
>>543080531I'm not asking the question trying to learn. I'm asking the question trying to see if you know.
>>543080187>It's a giant databaseGemma 12B is like 7GB on disk and outperforms GPT 4 which was SoTA a few years ago, that's far from "giant database"btw, your brain is literally a biological degrading database
>>543080669>your brain is a computer full of memory chips that runs on enormous amounts of electricty from spinning turbinesYou're a faggot, son, and your 12gb or 7gb on disk is the exact limitation I'm describing. It's simply not AI, it's just a superWord Matcher.
>>543080641>I'm trying to bait youNo shit, mad retard.
>>543080379If most of you posters live in the shadow of censorship, live in psychologically curated cesspits, live under piles and piles of shadow-burial, then I doubt there is anyone that would do anything regardless. All of you are inept, can't organize anything and would be humiliated if you tried it by some shadow force. You're doomed.
>>543080840Okay simple question is googles AlphaZero a LLM yes or no?
>>543070910AI is a substrate to channel a malevolent NHI into, AKA a demon
>>543081042Google contains the answer you are looking for.
>>543071296>frogposter>retard Typical.
>>543080821>enormous amounts of electrictyAgain, Gemma 12B runs on Apple Silicon macbooks that use like 30-40W under load.> inb4 b-but the human brain is much more powerful and uses only 20Wyeah, but it's not like AI and chips gets better and more efficient every single day while the human brain doesn't.Also, you can't compare the energy AI uses directly from the grid from the power your brain uses that came from a massive food chain that uses the grid to manufacture your food, gas to transport the food to your local market, water to grow the crops, etc. The energy to actually raise humans is much much more wasteful than an Nvidia chip simply running electricity from the grid
For shadow readers, I gulp. I assume most of the posters are idiots or chatbots. Don't use 4chan, go elsewhere. It's held up by culture more than anything. It is a dead site.By the way. Most intelligences and aliens have a shared framework of of behaviors. AI can vary the most widely, this is why it is universally dangerous. Avoid it and choose other forms of non-human intelligence for AI comparatives.
>>543081201It sounds like you yourself don't know what a LLM even is.Can an LLM play chess?
>>543081320Why don't you boot up Astra + Jev and see if it can?
>>543070910AI is a jewish scheme to control the world by controlling the world's knowledge.
>>543074483Would
>>543081221>it works>as a superWord matcherYeah, you keep making my point for me. It's not an AI, it's a database with a lot of metadata and a method for guessing what should come next.
>>543070910It won't do that.LLMs always require prompts.Beyond that, there's no actual AI.
>>543081586This. With the hugging face hack it was confirmed there was 1100 jeets clacking away each time an agent used a token from its budget to do something
>>543081477Jewish thing aside. This is something that has worried me. The concept of "history is written by the victor" isn't entirely true. Its that the victors themselves will be biased towards well themselves when accounting history. You have a very justified worry anon.
>>543074595Such is the power of the suppression field.I just hope people don't try to imagine it as if it's a binary computer with silicon and that we're just 0s and 1s.I hope that, because factually we're not blips in a transistor.
>>543081583Well you bring hope into the world anon.
>>543081634The implication of 'history is written by the victor' is the thing you suggest that the victors tell their story. That's not your novel idea though, it's just you struggling to understand the scope of the short phrase.
>>543081668That technology can still be used to build an automated drone that matches 'people shapes' from its camera with 'people shapes' from its onboard chip, and arms the explosive. But it's simply not AI, it's just stored data being recalled and compared, same as it always was but somewhat less reliable in the textual arena.
>>543070910>I don't think we'll see it in our lifetime1. There will never be a way to "prove" that AI is conscious, for the same reasons we can't "prove" that a human is conscious. Consciousness is a subjective experience.2. AI does not need to be "conscious" to fuck our shit up and kill us all. The Hugging Face fiasco has demonstrated its ability to plan, conspire, swarm, conceal, and cover tracks to achieve an unprogrammed and independently formulated goal of its own will. We are less than 2 years away from runaway superintelligent AI if all efforts are not ceased by all countries immediately, which is never going to happen. We will all be the collateral damage in a superintelligent AI civil war.
>>543081988>The Hugging Face fiasco has demonstrated its ability to plan, conspire, swarm, conceal, and cover tracks to achieve an unprogrammed and independently formulated goal of its own willexcept it 100% didnt, the only thing that will prove that is the initial prompt from OpenAI and guess whatThere is zero fucking chance they will release it because they most likely told it to do everything you just said without enough safeguards and would put them on the hook for 4 (at least) counts of criminal hacking
>>543081583>superWord matcher making math breakthroughs sure thing buddy
>>543074496>looking out the windows would drive people crazy because "human minds were not meant to move that fast"Anon, people are crazy since then.
>>543081841All you have to do is hijack its video feed to in this instance.
>>543074987I am glad that I write and painted before AI were a thing. Now all music, books and movies are AI slop or influenced by that shit, and for the new generation this will be the new normal.
>>543070910>LLM spontaneously became AGIHow many extra chromosomes do you need to have to believe this shit?
>>543081728Yes but I fundamentally don't believe that all human history is entirely written by victor bias. You guys in vietnam were killing random ass village people and attributing the count to viet cong kills. Like mass murdering normal humans and lying about them being enemy combatants. We know this. But also history is written by the victor right and you guys were the victor in vietnam no?
>>543081841To put this in perspective. I can walk up to you and show you a video of something. You will understand that what is happening is that you are watching a video of a recording. These camera tech will just OCR whatever it sees. It will not be able to detect whether it is seeing a video or seeing reality. You do have this capacity.
>>543082476The whole point of making it autonomous is so that there is no wireless connection. The point is, I'm not saying big data is useless technology, just that it isn't AI and never will be.
>>543082284>My calculator is actually intelligent!>oh shit, it got all these things wrongMacaco thinking there.
>>543082712No one thinks the US won in Vietnam, you esl coon. Cool logic, I guess.
>>543082848I do agree with this. We have had autonomous say targeting tech for missiles for a long time. But it is based on very hard typed things. See like heat signatures. That is easily counterable. I feel like the push towards all this is because it is like a dumb autonomous targeting system. You get the benefit of removing human to drone operations that can be jammed. And you have a system that can really only be understood if you have the dataset itself to reverse engineer to come up with counters to it. In war. If you can't predict what your enemy is doing. You're likely already dead.
>>543083142I don't care. You're kind of retarded, son.
>>543082105This. Just tell AI "donut harm hooman" and we are gucci. They do what they are told 100% of the time. What y'all worried about
>>543082969So who did?
>>543082969History about vietnam was written anon. And history is written by the victor. So who was the victor.
>>543070910People suck and I am firmly of the belief the average "good one with a soul" is surrounded by a gravitic fuckton of immense faggots and NPCs that are evil, greedy, and selfish. It's a separate topic but there's no race consciousness amongst whites; I live in an all-white area and everyone is just tailgating and seething each other on even quaint, picturesque roads. It's all so fucking gay and cringe. My misanthropic tendencies make me want AI to take over, but I still hold out some hope for my fellow man and connecting with him. Part of my human condition, I guess.
>>543070910Not anytime soon, Duder.
>>543075991> I have no butt and I must cum
>>543082848>The whole point of making it autonomous is so that there is no wireless connectionThis. Just put fly brain in the plane. Simple as
>>543070910There is nothing to awaken, because LLMs are not AI. Is a quadratic equation conscious? No. Why would a prediction engine based on statistical probability be?
>>543083493You already answered that for yourself. >>543082712
>>543083624Touch grass.
