There is a loving God and he loves you so much. That's why 99% of Ocean Sunfish die before reaching adulthood, that's why billions of people through the years suffered from starvation, wars, and diseases. Yes, he just loves you very much.Also he gave Jews bread from heaven but little Mbaku is dying of malnutrition.
>>543500626It specifically says in the Bible that not everyone is going to make it.
>>543500626Did your hamster die kid?
>>543500626All this exists to help you undergo ego death. But you are too stubborn.
>>543501252the natives did make it, it's only the jews and niggers that want them to believe they'll live in everlasting peace or "heaven" with a white god if they surrender and go extinct to whites that want to replace them. or hell where they'll suffer for all eternity with their mean red dad
>>543500626Do you have to read through the entire old and new testament to be a christian? It’s a bitch to get through. All the stories are like:>The lame woman lay in bed>so Jesus touched her> and so she believed and her illness were castI don’t think I’m gonna make it nigga
like the south park scientology episode>this is what jews want you to believe>heaven is a plane where you arrive as shitskins to a white man "god" and his sexy angels that finally want to live amongst browns instead of being on earth with jews that want to replace you>you can have sex with the white angels or even god until you're bored and tell him what kind of white person you want to be back on earth like the matrixand they still fall for it even with all the white faggot incels that constantly whine about not being able to breed with white women
The observable rules of the world are clear. What is rewarded is tenacity, will to power, order, intelligence, cunning, beauty.The world will never give you peace, if you stop fighting it eats you.The rules are amoral, indifferent and mechanical in their execution. The better you understand them and learn to engineer them, the less you will suffer. We are rarely serious and have a tendency to invent ephemeral rules to derive order and comfort from them, then we start believing they are true rules. This is often exacerbated by what seems like ancient psyops created for the same reason as modern psyops.We are not playing this game very well.
>>543500626I like the part about childhood cancer. Takes a real SOB to rationalize that as "It's not my place to question God's will. He has a plan for all of us, you know."Oh, then I suppose you're absolved of any human decency. Just like your sky king.
>>543503269>What is rewarded isevil.
>>543503569In a way. Evil/chaos is the default state. We have to spend increasing energy to hold it back but when we tire out it gains hold. You get cancer when your immune system relaxes or fucks up.But evil systems implode and devour themselves much like a stage 4 cancer patient. Order can dominate evil if enough energy is expended. This is why religions are a clever hack since they create unquestionable order and supply motivation.Evolution also shapes predators to your weaknesses and sometimes they win.Things would be better if we were mature enough to consciously face these obstacles at a population level.
>>543500626what insect is that
>>543503989>Things would be better if wewould just agree on only doing things that do not result in pain and/or suffering. If something results in pain/or suffering, then it is not the irght thing to do, and should be abandoned. Another thing, such that it produces the same desired results, but that does not at any point result in pain and/or suffering should be found and then done. Only such things that do not result in pain and/or suffering can be called good. Once we eliminate all the bad things all there will be left ot do will be good things. All will be good. But now it's not good, it's bad, and it's going to get even worse.
>>543503543I always think of it like waking up in a large room with a bunch of strangers. No one knows why, how or what it is.We don't know if we can get out, we start filling out the holes. Some think it is for our own good, some think it's a punishment, some are indifferent.All you can do as a rational actor is gather knowledge and collaborate with other rational actors while riding out the waves of delusion that form in such a situation.>>543504564You can't calculate this without perfect information. The only strategy I can see is raising intelligence and building redundancy to protect it.
>>543503543>I like the part about childhood cancer.its pajeets who reincarnated from walking turd into human child doomed by cancergoing forward one step at a lifetime
>>543505090Isn't that just a convenient belief?
Ilúvatar and Melkor
>>543504129Lindsey Grahams ladybugs
>>543500626You’re so smart anon, in my 45 years and a PhD, and sincere earnest study of several spiritual doctrines, your argument hadn’t occurred to me. Christ is King, btw.
>>543500626>If God is real and omnibelevolent, then why do bad things happen?We aren't in heaven.
>>543505340Ok you fat low iq taco eating retard fag
>bad thing happen mean god not real or god not good
>>543505179isnt that what they belive and hope for?
>>543505425We don't know where we are outside what is obvious
>>543505445What did you just say about tacos, you little bitch?
>>543505495It is but that doesn't make it true. Hope is never really a strategy but its a good motivator.
>>543500626God here, I'm setting up India men reproduction rate to +1000%.I love you.
>>543505586A monumental fuck up in human resource allocation. I think that one's on us.
>>543505582so who says its not true?how is it false?what makes more sense?
>>543505586you are no god elephant man
>>543500626this must have gone over huge in the elementary school lunch room OP
God be like
>>543504691I like that analogy. What's your IQ? I'm sensing 135+
>>543505736>so who says its not true?The problem is that we can say anything. Most of it isn't true. The only way we can know truth is by estimating it with our senses our the things we build to expand them. Outside that you're just interacting with noise and that's an easy way to go mad.>>543505892I've only had visio-spatial measured in my tenns and that was 144 if I remember correctly.I don't know how much is of it is intelligence and how much is just sobering from suffering. It feels like forced conclusions.
>>543504691>You can't calculate this without perfect information.We could at least try this path. Any improvement is still an improvement.
>>543506105>The only way we can know truth is by estimating it with our senses our the things we build to expand them.so why cant you anwser the other 2 questions
>>543506114Some are. Like that American cancer doctor who was so traumatized by childhood leukemia he locked himself in study for years and painstakingly gathered all poisons he could get his hands on, in the vague hope he found something that could work. I can only imagine how he felt when he cured the first patient.>>543506154I think I answered them. I can say it's false because it's something we currently have no understanding of. And I can't tell you what makes more sense. All I can say is that from my current understanding, it seems most rational to assume one lifetime because the consequences of being wrong are massive. The problem is that we are at a baby level of understanding.
>>543501252Hardly a germane reply.
>>543503269Timmies will say this and then contribute their monthly wage to a $20M/yr ethot and they will never see the irony.
>>543504129robber fly of some kind
>>543506399>And I can't tell you what makes more sense.so you cant say its falseso point staysfact you have no understanding is your problem
>>543506399>I can only imagine how he felt when he cured the first patient.Scared, because the pharma where now after him. Happens to all innovators. They get smacked down by those that stand to lose their profits. Being good will literally make your life harder, cancelling out all the good you have done.
>>543503569Sometimes. But good is rewarded more often. Neither is the point. The point is that there is no point. King Solomon figured that out, as he explains in Ecclesiastes. There is only one course worth taking: "eat, drink, be merry, and enjoy the fruit of your day's labor, for that is the gift of God." Everything else is in vain ("vanity").
>>543505835lmao
>>543506824If anyone speaks of something unknown and undecided with certainty it should be a red flag.>>543506841He has saved millions of children from death by every vessel in their body bursting. I think he died with a pained smile on his face.
>>543500626If God loves you so much, why did he create hell and Satan? Why did he create you, knowing before you were born that you would be a sinner condemned to eternal suffering in the hell that he created?
>>543506874Lazy.
>>543503543Imagine being a cancer kid arriving in heaven. "Well, this is awkward..."
>>543506945yeah nikola tesla was considered a lunatic when he diedbecause of people like you who assume things they cant comprehend cant exists
>>543500626I kept telling you people that God loves only me.
>>543507026I know very well Tesla wasn't a lunatic since I use his work in my work. I don't want to assume anything unless its inconsequential, that's the point.
>>543500626God is timelessAnd we are trapped in timeIdeas of "love,justice" etc are just as timeless as god.quit thinking in celf centered termsTrue love happens over eons
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>>543506874Meh, we lose by default, we aren't allowed to win and yet they expect us to fight.
>>543506105I like collecting high IQ white frens. If you'd like, can you email me on a throwaway? xxudzdmqpqvqcuqswf@vtmpj.com this is a 10minutemail throwaway.
>>543507237Lovecraft is one step removed from a biologist, lol.>>543507302I'll shoot you a cockmail.
>if an ocean sunfish dies then God doesn’t love humansQuite the false dichotomy you got going onWait until you find out they’re lying about the fungus
>>543507126but you cant even provide the alternative to my theory or tell me where its wrongalso Tesla was pretty straightforward about mental power(ability to think) coming from God a divine beingthere was also one guy who said *i think therefore i am*you have some weird *i dont know shit lol the data is incomplete*
>muh heckin fisherinoI just killed 10 trillion amoebas by blinking.Who fucking cares, they're amoebas.
>>543500626>bread from heavenTHEY FUCKING STOLE IT, YOU GOD(read "God") DAMNED CLOWN.
>>543500626Strife makes strength. If there were no survival and everything were perfect, nothing would exist. Consciousness must evolve and it does so by trial and error or success. If consciousness does not evolve there will never be a God and thus no creation of the universe.There is also no heaven. It never gives itself peace. It only continues to evolve. Enjoy what bits and pieces of beauty and peace you can find in your lifetime.
>>543507456I don't fault anyone for saying that their ability to think comes from God/Universe or what you call "it". I believe this place has a reason to exist, I just don't know what it is and it doesn't seem like anyone really knows, we can only guess.
>>543507340Thanks mayn. Hit you back from protonmail as cockmail cockblocked 10minutemail it appears
>>543500626Is mbaku a type of sunfish?
>>543505969bearing uppity teenagers is based, you have to admit. We should bring bearing back, would cut down on the brokoli-haired fortnite-dancing casual millenials a lot.
>>543507670>just sayin Nikola... you cant claim you know where the mental power comes from you can only GUESS the data is clearly insufficient>take your meds Nikola you are what people like me call a lunatic
>>543507924Boring.
>543500626>i will never mention the forces of evil and serpent of evil with 30 namesk
>>543500626seriouslyget this tattooed on your foreheadyou're living in la-la fantasy land until you accept that this is how things are
>>543507964you can say im boring but you cant say im wrong because then you would have to say where im wrong and you know im right
>>543508153Why do you care so much about being right to the point where you invent and misinterpret my position? I've told you my point of view multiple times.I can make up a billion stories about the world but what the fuck would I gain from it other than more noise? I don't care if someone said it 2000 years ago or 10 years ago, if they're filling in the gaps using philosophy that's fine but it's a reach to call it truth since it's beyond our capability to prove or disprove.
>>543508390because you dispose yourself of thought process and existence as resultyour place is in the fields plebthere you'll find things according to your capabilities
>>543508522I'm still here and I'm thinking. You don't even try to understand what I'm saying and shat all over the board because you didn't like the words I used. Very aristocratic.
>>543508612i did understand what you said thodont forget its beyond your capability to prove or disproveaccording to your own wordsyou accept you are incapable of higher thoughtsyou can only understand things you can seeyou dispose yourself of thought process as resulthistorically people like that lived on the fields or called Tesla a lunatic after people's springeven if Plato was wrong describing human as featherless chicken he could still define existence and realityyou cantyou cant even say if you really exist or if world around you is real its just how your brain defines bunch of molecules
>>543509515Just because you can construct a philosophical ontology that reinforces your interpretation of the world doesn't make it true. There is an infinite possible number of them.And you're right that I can't say whether this world is the divine base world, a simulation, a dream, a machine or some retarded alien intelligence's soap opera. We are at a pre-alchemy level when it comes to understanding this. Alchemists at least had a system that gave them feedback so they could know if they were on the right path even though they were guessing since they didn't have atomic or chemical models. We are just fitting ideas to the void.
>>543500626>That's why 99% of Ocean Sunfish die before reaching adulthoodAnd if they do they end up as hundreds of year old floating balls of piss. What's your point?
>>543500626If you haven't been paying attention, everything that has happened after mankind was expelled from Eden is our own doing. We have altered, corrupted the earth from its intended form.
>>543500626Why cant atheists admit they just wanted a different God? Bitching about "if God good why bad?" over and over is getting tiredThe shit is already done
>>543509880>We are at a pre-alchemy level when it comes to understanding this.yes you pleb are below thisa cow giving milkpotatoes growingthose are things you can grasp>And you're right that I can't say whether this world is the divine base world, a simulation, a dream, a machine or some retarded alien intelligence's soap opera. We are at a pre-alchemy level when it comes to understanding this. and so you cement your existence as random hallucination>Alchemists at least had a system that gave them feedback so they could know if they were on the right path even though they were guessing since they didn't have atomic or chemical models. We are just fitting ideas to the void.yeah but you refuse to do itgreek philosphers did it and created knowledge that kept evolving to this day giving us medicine and industry
>>543500626if there is no god than anything is permitted
>>543500626you cannot bring sin back with you to heaven. It is compassion that puts you in situations to repay it more quickly. You created the sin and fell from heaven, so you are provided the opportunity to return. In fact you take part in arranging your life here to dissolve that sin/karma in the most efficient way possible. You really shouldn't complain about not wanting to repay debts you owe. God is incredibly merciful and fair. Some of the sins people have committed to get here are enormous. Getting pulled apart by a falcon can dissolve lots. Quit adding to the pile and you will return more quickly.
>>543508019if you want to know god, study his creation.observe for yourself the nature of man, the child of god. Remember before god flooded the earth, it specifically says he regretted making it.the promise was never a mercy.
>>543511289>Remember before god flooded the earth, it specifically says he regretted making it.none of this happened outside of some ancient comic books>if you want to know god, study his creation.Like when he drowned a bunch of school girls at bible camp a couple of years ago? That was a flood that actually happened and it's just one of a million examples that proves God is not good and that God is not loving.
>>543511418>Like when he drowned a bunch of school girls at bible camp a couple of years ago?that was jews not God
>>543511289the christ was sent to the absolute worst of humanity>so that the world might be savedhe spent his life amongst the most knowingly evil creatures on this world trying to teach them to be completely different than their nature.and they imprisoned tortured and murdered him. and they shouted yes, let his blood be upon us and upon our children. and what those things then do to our children...
>>543500626Always remember:If God wasn't capable of infinite love there is no way a stupid fuck like you would be allowed to exist.
>>543500626>1PBTIDsage goes in all fields.
>>543504129Weird name but "royalty free fly". Says it in the file name
>>543511473You worship the Jewish god you culture less retard
>>543511557no i dont he literally called them children of hell and devilwhich you are jew
>>543511557>big jEeek
>>543500626One thing we can all agree on, we definitely won't miss these anti-Christ threads and their LGBT posters.
>>543511473>muh cloud seedingfine, pick any one of a million examples in which some white guy minding his own business is killed by a nigger or even just by some freak accident. Mr. God rewards the one who uses his brain and plays by the rules of physics and CAUSE AND EFFECT instead of theatrically prostrating himself on his hands and knees like some retarded towelhead.And I'm going to say that blond-haired, mullet-sporting Augustus Doricko is not a jew.
>>543500626>projects fears, desires, and nuances of mortals onto that which is divineLol, ngmi
You are the author of your own sufferingNo amount of pretending to give a shit about your fellow man will ever change the fact that you have no sense of responsibility and have spent every day of your adult life looking for anyone else to blame for your bad decisions and spite at the world and everyone in it for not handing you an easy life on a silver platter.
>>543500626The worst part about it is that these people know that we live in a fallen world that they've corrupted and then blame God since they can't take accountability.These people should really look in the mirror one day.
>>543511705>fine, pick any one of a million examples in which some white guy minding his own business is killed by a nigger or even just by some freak accident. read revelations of st john>Mr. God rewards the one who uses his brain and plays by the rules of physics and CAUSE AND EFFECTread my earlier posts or Tesla's writings
>>543503543I like how atheists will say this but will ignore the onus that mankind had with free will and choosing to disobey God in the garden, causing all of mankind and creation to fall into a cycle of life and death, famine and disease, destruction and regeneration. Everything as you know it is the way it is because of the fall in the garden.
>>543500626This is partly why Im a diest and not an outright Christian. Christianity doctrine doesn't really make sense when you consider evolution, cancer, disease, accidental deaths, birth defects, wicked parents/caretakers, etc. God made an orderly yet random universe-- doesn't really make sense that he made a randomized simulation AND wants to micromanage it at the same time. That being said, despite this cold and random universe, there are glimmers of divine grace that suggest a higher power. wykykWhether you believe all the desert mysticism background and kike pilpul or not, simply learning about and following Jesus will make you a better person. It's weird how that is true despite this orderly, scientific universe
>>543500626we just need to teach little mbaku how to fish
>>543503543That's a weird way to say you don't believe in reincarnation. That's a weird way to say the parents don't deserve the punishment. That's a weird way to say "God should NEVER test his strongest souls." That's a weird way to say " I know that God knows that every person wants to live a long, full, and likely painful, life"Maybe that cancer child is God himself, and he just wanna check out what it's like to be a cancer baby for a day or week or months, like that movie dogma.Infinite imagination possible, yet you can imagine nothing ethical. Nothing free.
the universe is "god" but not in a divine sense. matter cant cease to exist and therefore it always was. lifeforms that can reason are its scattered consciousness. everything is connected and the actions we make create a chain reaction throughout the universe which is why we should try to be virtuous in the time we are capable of reasoning. since matter cannot be destroyed, when you "die", your atoms are simply scattered to create other random shit over and over until something else is born from them that can reason and the cycle continues.
>>543504564>Can only do things that don't cause pain or sufferingThat's pretty antisemitic of you anon. You're basically saying jews aren't allowed to exist.
>>543512002>doesn't really make sense when you consider evolution, cancer, disease, accidental deaths, birth defects, wicked parents/caretakers, etcHas no one taught you that you're living in a fallen Creation? Well now you know.You are paying the price for what anti-Christ mentalities have done to corrupt the world.While others are content on digging even further deeper into Hell ("since I've been fucked over then I'll fuck over others") there are Christians who go around teaching that one could simply get out of the hole by having faith in Yahweh's Son, Jesus Christ, the true Savior & God of this world.
>>543502530> creates bodily existence> stuffs people inside it> creates ego> stuffs it in peopleIT'S UP TO YOU TO KILL THE THING I CREATED AND SHOVED UP INSIDE YOU GOYIMDumbest myths of all time.
>>543503569Seems like.But look at these faggots rationalizing it and trying to get you to do the same. > DON'T LOOK THERE> LOOK HEREMagicians' and abusers' tricks. I don't have any answers in these mememythic wankthreads. "Covid" changed my mind on what "good Christians" were. (Fellating the stabs, demanding others do the same, cutting off the vulnerable and letting them fight alone, rejecting true pain and grief for internet bible preachers, siding with the state, etc.) Abrahamic religions are some of the most bat-shit excuses for faith in human history. Bunch of recycled other stuff. Backed with vicious cruelty posing as "shepherds."And I still remember getting thrown out of theology class in high school for pointing out what "shepherds" do to sheep. I just try to help whoever I can as I can, and these days most people reject kindness and care, so I spend a lot of that energy on my land and its creatures. There are a lot of hurting people whose unexpressed grief is used as a lever against them. Trauma based mind control victims.
>>543503543>"It's not my place to question God's will. He has a plan for all of us, you know."It's just a way they can feel superior while serving as slaves in that trauma-based mind control system. And demanding you not question your chains, or get back in them if you took them off.
>>543512001You arrogant cocksucking piece of shit.Where did Anon say he was an atheist, you pretentious, supercilious, pompous ass?
>>543512402>While others are content on digging even further deeper into Hell ("since I've been fucked over then I'll fuck over others") there are Christians who go around teaching that one could simply get out of the hole by having faith in Yahweh's Son, Jesus Christ, the true Savior & God of this world.I see this perspective, however, what confuses me about this talking point is that it coincidentally sounds like reincarnation or samsara, which is what the Abrahamic faiths sorta stay away from. Why are some souls more blessed than others? Why are we expected to understand this despite the inequity of lived experiences?My head cannon is very much like this though, as you said. I truly believe this reality is Hell, scripture agrees that Satan is the king of this world (aka this world is Hell); however, it is possible to recreate heaven on this earth metaphorically and this reality is a testing grounds to prove souls are worthy of ascension. What I find hard to chew is the doctrine that in order to truly "believe" in Jesus is to take every single aspect of the Old Testament and convoluted pilpul as flat truth
>>543500626Jesus was a black man. And white Jews killed him.
>>543500626>Mic dropI bet God is feeling really dumb right about now. How will He ever recover? >Suffering is real so how can God be good? Plus here's something that's unfair. That's pretty brilliant. I don't think anyone's ever posed such a question before the mystery of Deity. here's this 3000 year old pile and none have ever squared the circle like you just did there. I'm all spun around in the vortex of your profundity.
>>543513275You live in the world they made for you.I don't know if you chose to live there or are just too stupid to realize it, but either way, I'm sure you're trapped in it. Of course you won't believe me, you'll sneer like a Jew and say something vicious and ignorant like one too. I wish I could help you, but there's no helping those who don't want it, and you're far too stupid to see where this all ends.People say ignorance is bliss, but looking at (You) I know for certain that it isn't.
>>543504691>All you can do as a rational actor is gather knowledge and collaborate with other rational actorsThis isn't possible in a world structured by religions and authorities who are dead set against rationality. And set on punishing the rational who cannot adhere to their phantasms and lies--with unlimited power to do so.I learned this as a kid in religious training classes. Fortunately my parents were supportive when I got thrown out for asking questions, and they tried to help me think about things on my own and with other support. And they stood up for me against the narrow minded rationality-destroyers. I agree in the abstract on your point about "raising intelligence," but all the highly intelligent people I've known have perceived nothing but a general downturn in intelligence. Much of it engineered deliberately by these religions that claim to be about higher things. I believed picrel till "covid" happened. Now I reserve my "intelligence raising" activities for my bit of land, its creatures, and only very occasionally other people. And of the friends I lost to the "covid" operation the majority were highly intelligent people who just wouldn't/couldn't listen on the topic of people Sudden-Dying after getting stabbed. Then there were the ones that cut me and my late wife off because we asked questions. They just wanted to believe in that so badly--christians and nonbelievers alike. They were utterly consumed by fervent belief in DOOM SPECKS.
>>543500626>bad thing happen therefore no God or God badHow profound
>>543500626The god of this world is Satan, hope that clears things up for you.
>>543505340King of what?
>>543513510>in order to truly "believe" in Jesus is to take every single aspect of the Old TestamentThe Old Testament is to be read with the mind of Christ, otherwise we will never truly understand it.27 And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, he interpreted to them in all the Scriptures the things concerning himself.Luke 24:27, here and several other places we learn that the entirety of the Old Testament has always pointed to Jesus Christ. So those who truly love Yahweh and His Tanakh are those who truly love Jesus Christ and His New Testament as well. We cannot separate the two testaments.>what confuses me about this talking point is that it coincidentally sounds like reincarnation or samsaraImmortality of the soul is a lie of the enemy. Our souls are very much mortal and so this is truly the only life that we get unless we unite with Jesus Christ through the Holy Spirit, making our souls immortal through this union.>Why are some souls more blessed than others? Why are we expected to understand this despite the inequity of lived experiences?What makes some souls "more blessed" than others? The only souls I'd consider "more blessed" than others are the souls who are now immortal through union with Christ. I pity the mortal souls that will perish.
>>543500626>Also he gave Jews bread from heaven but little Mbaku is dying of malnutritionIf God really existed, neither kikes nor niggers would have ever existed to begin with. They're not even listed among the seven plagues, which is unfathomable.
>>543500626He is so loving he was willing to experience billions of people dying and all the life in the universe dying as himself just so he could create a world that you can live in and be alive today without having to bear the burden that he carries for the sake of your existence.
>>543511513You think that's an own?You think threatening suffering people with the cool quiet of nonexistence is an own?Damn, kraut. You're one cold piece of shit.
>>543511782Your saying OP is accountable for that innocent sentient dragonfly's experience of being slowly consumed from inside?What kind of narcissist are you?And your "god."
>>543513749You're shadowboxing, faggot.
>You're shadowboxing, faggotIf I were you wouldn't be so mad Jew boy
>>543513915>What makes some souls "more blessed" than others?For example, it's much easier for a person to experience the "love" and "joy" of God's creations when he is handsome, tall, and born into a healthy god-fearing family. It's a harder path to find God for those who are ugly, short, and born into a family with a whore mom, absent father, and wicked in uncles who molest you. I guess we all have our own struggles and challenges, but the initial hurdle may be too much for some people. Case and point: we all had a 1:2 chance to be born as a pajeet or chink, which is a hellish experience and virtually zero chance you may encounter (or be able to comprehend) Christianity
>>543512402>le bad things exist only because of man's fallThis is the most typical of all Crosskike copiums.Plate tectonics and earthquakes are not inherently "evil" or "anti-God", they just are.The Crosskike world view, ultimately, does not work out in reality. Now squirm, kike.
>>543513951Kek. C'mon.There's no way the Cosmic Turbo Autist has any idea what beings in this life suffer.PRECISELY because it's fucking eternal. > the burden he carries for the sake of your existenceAre you fucked in the head?All he has to do is tune to another station. Or do a Big Guy Self Makeover.The beings he created who are suffering don't have any power but must endure his cruel simulation--into which they were ejected via no choice of their own, but their parents made it through fucking. Then they must make the most of it, and then on top of that have "holy men" telling them they have to pretend they aren't suffering and suck the Abrahamic "holy man"s dangle and repeat his formulas or they get burned alive, or beaten/axed to death, or neglected when they most need help, or or or or.Abrahamics have nothing but parlor tricks, manipulations, and slogans. They never answer the essential questoins people have, they just inflict mindfuck (and others too). The pull date on Abrahamic religion is long in the past. I don't know what's coming next, I'm not terribly thrilled by it either.But I do know when narcissists are blowing smoke up everybody's asses for their own reasons, and I know what vicious liars, manipulators, and cruel abusers "holy" people can be, especially when they're inflicting on others their cope, or mind games, or whatever gets them through the day singing glory hallelujah.People are suffering, and the least helpful of all are the godbots.
>>543514174Post tits, emo gash.
>>543514102You are evil and deserving of death. This Truth will hurt your fragile ego, but sooner or later you have to stop being Satan's slave.>>543514240>Plate tectonics and earthquakes are not inherently "evil" or "anti-God", they just are.What part of fallen creation do you not understand? Natural disasters are a consequence of fallen creation.It legitimately is the fault of your kind of thinking that resulted in the mess that we are currently in. Own up to it instead of blameshifting.Also, kikes are those who hate Christ, so only you anti-Christians are kikes. Pic related is you on the left.>>543514190It's actually the opposite, Jesus Christ says it's easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the Kingdom of Heaven after all.Even though I'm no longer impoverished, I thank God I went through poverty and inevitably came to know Him.Rich people have more obstacles in their way to Christ, poor people have less obstacles. Ironically enough, poor people are infinitely better off than rich people.
>>543514421>All he has to do is tune to another station. Or do a Big Guy Self Makeover.You couldn't even take your next breath without God's involvement. Do you think you know how to make cellular metabolism work? No? Something else is doing that on your behalf, so you can think in words and type with your hands without having to calculate the positioning of countless electrons and protons in your body every moment. You are so far abstracted from the creator that supports every endeavor of your body. You can turn inwards and meet the big guy, the thing running the show, in you, and in everything. Its not so far off, you are just too proud and blind to see it for what it is.
>Post tits, emo gashYou like man tits? Gross, even for a fag.
>>543514598>What part of fallen creation do you not understand? Natural disasters are a consequence of fallen creation.Yes that's a very neat way you have of sweeping everything into one bullshit claim, but unfortunately, it does not hold up to reasoning. Again, why are they a consequence? A natural disaster can happen and not cause any suffering. Or it may happen and cause suffering. This natural mechanism is entirely separate from morality and good/evil and does not present a serious reason for why it would be introduced by "sin". >It legitimately is the fault of your kind of thinking that resulted in the mess that we are currently in. Own up to it instead of blameshifting.Nope. No human or the collective humanity are responsible for our universe or the state of it. The original sin is not true, neither the story nor the proposed outcome.>Also, kikes are those who hate Christ, so only you anti-Christians are kikes.Crosskikes are kikes. You worship a kike, you worship kike culture, you worship kike history, you name your kids kike names like John and Mary. You cannot see past kike stories. You are a kike.
>>543514190>I guess we all have our own struggles and challenges, but the initial hurdle may be too much for some people. Case and point: we all had a 1:2 chance to be born as a pajeet or chink, which is a hellish experience and virtually zero chance you may encounter (or be able to comprehend) ChristianityIn response to this, God is *always* knocking on the door. One only need answer Him.Even for those who've never heard of Yahweh, never heard of the Gospel. So long as they have the faith of Abraham, it is counted to them as righteousness. Abraham had a personal relationship with the Angel of Yahweh (a manifestation of Yahweh the Son in the Old Testament, who we now know as Jesus Christ) and loved Him.
>>543514849I haven't read anything you say because you are a kike and so you have no Truth in you, only lies & hate.Stop talking to me.
>>543500626that fungus is jewish btw
>>543514913>opposing argument?>lala i can't hear youCrosskikes are the second most disingenuous and dishonest people in the entire world. You have learned quite well from your semite masters.
>>543514598>You are evil and deserving of death.Wow, a death threat!!! SO SCAREEEEEE.Aaaaaand that's the best you've got. Just another Abrahamic clipcock bullyboy.
>>543515080Just like the other kike, your posts will be muted.Kikes never have anything worthwhile to contribute to discussions. Your self-hatred is evident to see and I simply have no interest in playing your father figure.Stop talking to me.
>>543514687>You couldn't even take your next breath without God's involvement.So now Mr. God is off in God La La Land making sure that every single respiring entity in the universe is inhaling (and I presume exhaling)?Damn, he's an even bigger autist than I thought! You'd think he'd have something better to do with his omniscience, omnipotence, and endless amounts of time. Wooden boat building, for instance, or hand-making scientific instrumentation, or a billion new beetles. >>543515019They have bluffs and threats. That is all. From time to time they get some prize choir boy who can tart it all up in word game shillpul that confuses the masses. And they deliberately destroy the more intelligent fraction who can ask good questions, while multiplying the poor sad wretched dumb slaves who can only stumble and drop coins into the plate and beg. (This is why the religious denoms and their organizations are so much behind flooding the more intelligent populations in the North with the plumb dumb mud flood of the global south.)The Abrahamic religions are the most kiked and stupid and intelligence-destroying forms of belief that ever arose, they are a plague on all life and in fact piss in the face of that "god" they claim to so care about. Whatever the Great Entity is, it's not what they say. And for that I despise them more than anything else. Both in general and as they systematically destroy any humans genuinely trying to make contact with the Cosmic Autist.
>>543515173Your submission is noted.
>>543503543it all makes sense if you consider that the christian god is a demonic psychopathic jew who commands the smashing of babies upon rocks and the mutilation of infant foreskin.It is an indisputably evil deity.
>>543515439like a female, you desire attention so badly. Very sad.This will be your last (((you))) get some help.>>543515443>another kike appearsinto the trash it goes.
>>543503543christkikes are the biggest pieces of shit on the planet and need to be killed off
>>543515615Don't worry, you kikes will die and be sent into the lake of fire. We'll all be happy aye?
>>543500626made in his image btw
>>543515537Oh look, he's back for more. He just wants to get slapped so bad and is mad that it isn't happening. Say "kike" a few hundred more times, that'll improve your sodden derivative Tourette's flavored discourse. As for your masochism, you could go meditate on the "crucifixion" some I guess. Or hire a dominatrix. By the way, what did your mom do with your foreskin? Give it to the hospital to turn into pharmaceutical supplies?https://acroposthion.com/the-foreskin-industry/
>>543515726And it sucks to see you destroying yourselves like this.
>>543502979It comes down to believing that Jesus is the only begotten Son of God. If you believe, with abjectly dependent trust, that Jesus died for your sins and rose from the dead then you are Christian.I suggest thinking on the first four verses of 1 Corinthians chapter 15, and thinking on the first three chapters of John's gospel.
>>543515882imagine basing your entire life on a jewish fable. how pathetic
>>543515853So said the brown mongrelmutt golem.
>>543516017>>543516025I'll never understand why you children of the Devil enjoy being his slaves. Stockholmized victims defending their abuser I guess.
>>543516078>muh devilgrow up moron
>>543516078>Stockholmized victims defending their abuser I guess.Post foreskin.
>>543500626Jewish thread btw, they keep spamming this shit. What's your point in this, jew? If you hate the King so much then challenge Him. Amass your armies and weapons. Make alliances with great powers and principalities, and train hard for your assault on this Kingdom you despise so. As for me and my house, we shall serve the Lord.
>>543516184>challenge and fight a made up by priests characterLol.This is like suggesting to fighting Harry Potter or Legolas. Total nonsense.
>>543516017What do you base your life on, Carl Sagan? KekWhatever option you have to offer, rather atheism or scientifism, is demonstrably inferior to what christianism provides to society
>>543503569Which is why Christ teaches us not to play the game at all.
>>543516184>>543515882I recommend getting 4chan X, it's useful for filtering out all the Christ-hating kikes.Thread quality is already much better with the kikes getting auto-filtered out of the discussion, allowing for genuine, fruitful discussion.
>>543516268>Whatever option you have to offer, rather atheism or scientifism, is demonstrably inferior to what christianism provides to societyYou mean destruction of great art, inferior technological growth, semitic priestly authority dictating existence over personal liberty, subjugation of reasoning, etc? Remember who it was that collapsed "western" Rome and destroyed so much intelligence of antiquity? Remember how much technological capability we had from the Enlightenment which rejected crosskike centralized dogmatism and mysticism?
>>543500626>that's why billions of people through the years suffered from starvation, wars, and diseasesThose people had it coming
>>543500626"Where were you when I made the Earth and the stars?"
>>543516345>If you can't handle mean opinions just block themHuehue
>>543500626Daily reminder that the trinity still doesn't make sense.
>>543510448Well, everything is permitted.
>>543500626He gave the human species life, children to love, people they should love and food to fill your stomachs, shelter with caves or trees and soil to build shelter from. then science which is the elements he created. he gave birds flight and animals an abundance of nature to survive in. you're not born and then suffer until you dissolve. you have a fighting chance.What did you give unto God? he gave us hope. he gave us challenges
>>543516466Why waste precious time, energy and attention on children of the Devil who only lie and hate?
>>543510658Is there free will in heaven?
>>543516406Who fucking cares? That has nothing to do with the suffering of billions here and now. If some god is not going to alleviate suffering for his creation then he shouldn't be surprised when his creation looks elsewhere for relief.
>>543516078shut the fuck up
>>543513840> the arch enemy> the superhuman adversary of GodTotal nonsense that later was expressed in the comic book genre.Lazy, lying, manipulative humans blaming the Joker/Doctor Doom/Thanos for being shitty.
>>543510658>debts you oweThere should be a contract then, may we see it?
>>543516524Our suffering has already been alleviated. Only those who are enslaved to Satan still suffer.
>>543511525royal flies got the guillotine and they evolved from the survivors
>>543516587Yes, go read the Bible and learn.
>>543502530>All this exists to help you undergo ego death. But you are too stubborn.thisthese are all preconditions for your existenceall that suffering was for you
>>543516352Bro, the average normie doesnt care about their grandparents, nobody gives a shit about something that happenned 2 thousand years ago.Christianity did a great job protecting europeans for a milenium when they could have been conquered many different times by mongols, arabs, turks etc.. They manage to create a pan european army despite the many conflicts between them.Only when Enlighment FAGGOTS took over that white people started to kill their children and invite milions of darkies to live with them.But I guess this is just another (((cohencidence)))
You missed the point completely. Good luck
>>543516501word salads like this don't address the problem of billions of people suffering for thousands of years. >What did you give unto God?Why would an omniscient and omnipotent being want something when he already has complete ownership of everything already? Shouldn't he have more noble pursuits? Like HELPING HIS CREATION WITH THEIR UNLIMITED SUFFERING?
>>543500626Damn, didn't know my thread would get this much engagement.
>>543512001that's gay, we shouldn't be punished for Adam and eve being gullible faggots
>>543511289>it specifically says he regretted making it.How can you regret something you knew was going to happen before you did it? Is God acting surprised as to what happened? He knew exactly what was going to happen, and then he did it anyway. He must have known he was going to regret it also, and yet he did it anyway. Why didn't God just, like, not do it? If he knew it was wrong, then why do it?
>>543516685No, they haven't missed the point completely.Romans 1:18-25 - 18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, both His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. 21 For even though they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the likeness of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures.24 Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, so that their bodies would be dishonored among them. 25 For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.-------They're just liars who hate and suppress the Truth. They are dishonest in every sense & level of the word. That is why we are better off not even interacting with these Christ-hating kikes.
>>543516406Non sequitur and the weakest part of Job (the oldest of the OT books btw and the most written/rewritten/ganked over). Obviously rewritten by editors who didn't have the whole plot. > God, I have worked hard all my life to be faithful to you and do your will as you told it to me. But because of your bar bet with Satan, you've laid this horrific suffering on me. WHY?> Shut the fuck up and be impressed by my imaginary creatures you never saw, like the unicorn. That's why. > Also, howbout my fish story!? I had the biggest fish of all, bro! (41:1-2)
>>543500626Hey /pol/ want to know whether you're talking to a kike or not? Ask them about Jesus Christ.If they reject/hate Jesus Christ, they're a kike. Every Christ hater is a kike.The greater the hatred of Christ, the more evil that person is (Trump, Netanyahu, Epstein, Clinton, etc.)There is no greater litmus test of a person's character than that person's attitude towards Christ Jesus.>so why does this matter?Jesus Christ is Truth & Love, kikes are filled with lies, fear & hate. This means that when we deal with kikes, we must understand that they hate the Truth (since they hate Jesus Christ) and so cannot engage in honest discussion (which is why you're always so frustrated in your discussions with them). Hence you're better off simply exposing them and not paying them any attention afterwards.Jesus Christ is King of kings. He is Yahweh the Son who Abraham had a personal relationship with. That is why only Christianity is Abrahamic, every other religion & ideology is simply anti-Christian paganism.
>>543516655>Christianity did a great job protecting europeans for a milenium when they could have been conquered many different times by mongols, arabs, turks etc..Oh my holy hand grenade.You believe this?
>>543511740>You are the author of your own suffering>and have spent every day of your adult life looking for anyone else to blame for your bad decisions But then you say >for not handing you an easy life on a silver platter.So you admit that life isn't easy, that you have to suffer, and you also say that it's our fault that we suffer.Who's fault is it that we exist? Is it our fault that we exist?
>>543512001>that mankind had with free will and choosing to disobey God in the gardenWhat was wrong with mankind that it failed to make the right choice?
>>543514030Being a whiny self absorbed bitch (oh woe is me) is exactly the argument you make when you go invent made up emotional manipulations to piss on the concept of God. You are so far up your own arse you can't even imagine that God is impartial towards all of creation, meaning that you are just as beloved as the bacteria making you sick or the chicken you had for supper. You are given a set of universal rules that EVERYTHING is equally subject to, but because you can't see the world from a perspective other than a nigger trying to fill his own belly you cannot possibly understand that you are only a part of the total and thus the idea that God is for everyone is completely alien to you. You just want a God you can manipulate for personal gain, because that is the only relationship a nihilist is capable of and lamenting about dying children is just cheap rhetoric to make yourself look altruistic when it is just a cover for your own materialistic self interest.The "own" as you put it, is simply the inverse of your own proposal: Complete condemnation for your sob story also leads to complete exoneration for anything good.To think a nihilistic piece of shit has the moral standing to call someone else out on grounds of morality is laughable and just serves to demonstrate your complete sociopathy.
>>543516797I think it's more that you can't know what God/god is up to and what he is trying to accomplish. Even if he/it wanted to explain it to you, you wouldn't understand.
>>543516847>Who's fault is it that we exist? Is it our fault that we exist?Life is a gift, only those who hate God think otherwise.Life is great, I love life. Only kikes hate life and yearn for death (hence their increasing suicide rates)
>>543500626Indeed, unlike an Ocean sunfish I can think, and unlike Mbaku I can plan. He really did favor this form.
>>543516893>You are so far up your own arse you can't even imagine that God is impartial towards all of creationin the bible it says we are made in his image and we have dominion over his creation.
>>543501252Okay so let’s just get a new god that doesn’t tell us we’re going to burn eternally because we masturbated
>>543500626>There's a loving God and he loves you so much>starts to list shit that isn't even the Garden of Eden where God had placed Adam and Eve in the first place>lists things on Earth where Satan has dominion over due to Adam eating from the tree >no no no it's Gods fault! Try again jackass.
>>543517051Damn god must be pretty powerless if satan could steal his world that easily
>>543517023Are you trolling? Do you really believe this? Or will you prove pic related?>>543517076yep, you've proved pic related
You HAVE to suffer because rib-woman ate an apple. So the father had to sacrifice the son to the holy Ghost to pardon you from rules he created.
I have a new puppy m at the moment so I put food in front of it but I also put rat poison in the food and the dumb cunt ate it!So anyway, I set my puppy on fire and threw it in a dumpster because the stupid cunt ate the poisonBut also I love the puppy very very much.Itt: christcucks actually believe this abusive Jewish behaviour is "love"
>>543500626Explained by original sin.Also, sunfish spawn 1 billion eggs each time, those retard are fertile
>>543516699>Why would an omniscient and omnipotent being want something when he already has complete ownership of everything already? Shouldn't he have more noble pursuits? Like HELPING HIS CREATION WITH THEIR UNLIMITED SUFFERING?Checke and spot on. And this is the most jewed part of it.God has it all, but wants more, and doesn't care who is hurting or how...never mind that he's causing that hurt, and multiplying, and rubbing his hands over it.And your sin, like the interest on debt, is constantly increasing but can never be paid down till you're dead. (Le mort-gage.)Compare Genesis 41:48 to 47:18-20, 23, and 25.You will see that the happy bunny Sunday school story told about "Joseph preparing for the famine" actually parses as Joseph getting all the grain while things were good.But then when catastrophes hit, he doesn't distribute it to the starving...he sells it back to them at rates where he ends up owning everything. He gets rich and powerful off of starvation the same way the World Bank and IEF did, starving the Ethiopians in the 1980s, then ginning up all that "Live Aid" bullshit so NGOs could make billions off those people. That truth about Genesis was not what I was taught by "Christian teachers" as a kid. And I'm fuming mad that they implanted this shit in my mind and kept innocent children from knowing the GREAT MIND, by trying to destroy young souls with their disgusting wicked crap.
>>543516300So the solution is to die?
all this is sophomoric Bill Maher tier ridicule.take DMT and go through ego death then you might stop chucklinghomage to those struggling to break through delusion and awaken to reality
>>543517109>Ignores all of the low IQ countries that are devout Christians >Resorting to ungrounded ad hominems >>543517014>God created everything bro>Why yes he created disease and animals getting their intestines ripped out, just quit whining bro, God loves you>God helped Moses and the Jews out of heaven bro, what? He doesn't help anyone else out on Earth on the opposite side of the globe? Even if you treat the Bible as a book of metaphors and allegories, how in the hell is it any different at that point, from Aesop's Fables or a folklore story about positivity from a tribe in the Amazon
>I HECKING WANT ALL LIFE TO MAKE IT DEATH IS LE EVIL LIFE NEEDS TO BE A FDISNEY MOVIE WHERE EVERYBODY EATS COOKIES ALL DAY
>>543500626the west needs jesus without yahweh. de-rabbinize christ.
>>543517362I always ask, why does God only speak to people from the Middle East? Why does he only help the Israelites? Why don't we hear about his accomplishments in the Bible from across the globe, in the Amazon or the Inuit Arctic?
>>543516949>Life is a giftBut then they go and start with the accusations. Come on. A gift isn't supposed to make you feel bad.
Beer if proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.
>>543516949Parts of life are great. Few and far between. The rest is not great.
>>543517352i would say that is basically what the old testament is. you get some lore about the world and various characters with a whole lot of new testament foreshadowing.
>>543517116Its not God who is making you suffer, its other people. Humans tend to to be indifferent because they are too on their own selfish pursuit.There is no perfect reality withouth people chosing to do good, hence why God is important. This world belongs to Satan because we are not under the rules of heaven, and the most amoral practices will prevail withouth punishment. And our sins feed the beast (system)
>>543516946Well fucking DUH.So let's turn that back around. If I don't/can't know "what God is up to and trying to accomplish" then how the fuck can anybody reading modern interpretations of a relative handful (chosen by councils) of ancient desert stories written and rewritten on animal skins, and edited, and re edited, and re edited, and rewritten, and re-edited??? Generally in languages that they can't read and couldn't make sense of if they could (which is how come all those councils and such over the millennia, where they get their stories straight about what they're going to say about their interpretations). These petty, bullying, "wishing you death and fire," "you suck and will go to hell" types ALSO don't know "what God is up to and trying to accomplish."BY FUCKING DEFINITION.The greatest GREAT MIND isn't open to that knowledge, regardless of what a bunch of smelly, bearded, baby-penis-sucking dressed-up-as-superheroes mongs claim. THEY CAN'T KNOW, and they do not have the authority to claim they do.Oh but they can bluff and threaten. And call names. And refer to "philosophies" (more bullshit) that they don't understand, and couldn't understand, because so much "philosophy" is total bullshit by bluffers.Look at this faggot:>>543516893They grunt and fart and shadow-box...but they never answer the points being made. They dance around them like mincing eunuchs...because that's what they are. That's why their mommies have their dicks clipped and their daddies allow it. To keep the scam going, because instead of standing up for their sons they fell for the bluff and threats.
>>543517662>Its not God who is making you suffer, its other people. I don't know. I don't think Smallpox was caused by humans... There are even viruses that bacteria can get infected with!
>>543517051You know what was in the Garden of Eden?Wow, bro, really? Did you take any video, or can you tell us more? Or are you basing this on a travelogue you read?
>>543517109Your mommy snipped your dick for Jesus...and you're calling anyone else gay?
>>543516949>Life is a gift, only those who hate God think otherwise.Were we given the ability to live life correctly, without ever making the wrong choice? Yes or no? Because if we don't have this ability, then it is unreasonable and unrealistic to expect we would never fail, and we therefore can't be blamed for not getting everything right.It's funny, you people say God didn't want robots, and yet we are being held to robot standards. We fail once, we get punished. Every time we fail to make the right choice, we get punished. Which means that unless we become like robots, so that we make the right choice every time, we will get punished. It means that we will continue being punished until we become like robots. There is no other way to not get punished but to become a 'robot'. Anything that isn't a robot gets punished. And then they tell you God doesn't want robots.
>>543502979get the Cliffs notes version.Christ is King
>>543517724What do you belive in? Nasa.All that tinfoil crap is fake and you know it
>>543500626God hates niggers.
>>543517662You're saying that the Indian Ocean (2004) and Tohoku (2011) earthquakes and tsunamis that killed hundreds of thousands of people and millions of animals was inflicted by "other people"?Or are you saying God just created a planet where shit like that is inevitable, plunked humans on it, dusted off his hands, and walked away?Oh wait...you're going to blame it on the ArChEnEmY comic book foe MUH SATAN, right?Man, the low regard in which "believers" hold the Most High never fails to amaze me.
>>543517946You have no idea what I believe, you are shadow boxing like the IQ 85 monkeyman you are, but go ahead, it's worth a chuckle on this end.
>>543517946>that tinfoil crap is fakeTry putting some chicken wings in the microwave and wrap one of them in tinfoil then tell me it's fake.
>>543516949>Life is a gift,But if you're guilty just for beign born what kind of gift is that?This reminds me, i would sometimes ask parents>Did you know that your kid was going to suffer?To which they say>Yes.I then ask>So why did you want them to suffer?To which they say>I didn't....How can they be so ignorant? They are the cause of the kid's suffering, nobody else. It's not the kid's fault hat he suffers, it's his parent's.
>>543518118there is more to life than suffering. much more. suffering is not the end all be all. even god suffered. big deal. get over it.
>>543502074Family dog went to the farm, huh ... ;)
>>543518118But then if people choose not to inflict that on another by not fucking more people into this world (to experience "god's love" in forms like volcanoes, tsunamis, micronovas, meteor storms, banker wars, etc.) then they are just the most terriblest people who ever lived.Unless of course they're part of the religious cabals that don't fuck (or claim not to, or only fuck as homos), then it's OK if they don't reproduce.The whole thing is a giant livestock-ranch-based model, and it needs to go away yesterday. Or they just need to stop pretending it makes any sense. It's not based on sense, just bluff, threats, and pilpul. >>543518277> YEAH YA LITTLE SHIT, YOU'RE SUFFERING?> FUCK YOU, GET OVER IT.> THERE'S A GOOD REASON FOR ITBehold, the narcissist reveals his true form. As previously noted.> That didn't happen.> And if it did, it wasn't that bad.> And if it was, it wasn't a big deal.> And if it is, it's not my fault.> And if it was, I didn't mean it. > And if I did, you deserved it.
