Why are pro-palestinian usually vehemently against Ukraine?Is it just because they hate the West and that's just it?
>>544418944palestinians:>melanin richukrainians:>melanin poorThat’s literally it
>>544418944Do the opposite of what the jews want. Simple as. All their wars can fuck off. Also telling how israel has maintained normalized relations with russia and took syria from them with no complaint. Now they want us to refocus on this conflict to turn a blind eye to the mess they've made with iran and provide a scapegoat for how they've spiraled fuel prices.
>>544419062But what about white people having this position, including the right wing ones?
>>544418944Is it not obvious that Palestinians and their supporters just hate white people? They only hate Israel because they think it's a white supremacist apartheid state.
>>544418944>Why are pro-palestinian usually vehemently against Ukraine?>Is it just because they hate the West and that's just it?kek, this pilpulno, dummy, they hate the kikes
>>544418944did you know russia sends iran weapons?why would they be pro-ukraine when russia gives them the means to defend themselves?
>>544419260kek, here's some more pilpul, good thread kikes (you're brown in 3... 2... 1...)
>>544419206there are no white people supporting palestine
>>544419341Because what Russia is doing in Ukraine is morally wrong.
>>544419365How does it feel to be absolutely mind raped by the Jews?
>>544419201Israel supports Russia though >>544419341They didn’t send shit to Iran
>>544418944You'll tell me that they support Cuba and Venezuela and Best Korea too, IDK WHY COMMIES DO THAT!!!!1! ......
>>544418944ukrainism and zionism are inextricably connected and always have been
>>544418944I've never encountered anyone with that mindset. You're just Jewish and trying to see discord.
>>544419502lets ignore ukrainian military cargo planes constantly landing there along with ukraine giving israel russian gerans and drones for research
Because true patricians understand the spiritual connection between the middle east and soviet russia.We will see red cover this earth again. From the arctic to Australia, the workers will be free.
>>544418944Palestine is fighting Israel.Ukraine isn't.Simple as.
>>544418944>hate the WestAll native Europeans hate the w*st>"I think it would be fair to call Europe an "old whore." It is true that my comrades and I hate modern Europe - the one that saw the process of "liberation of the bourgeoisie" from the politico-religious structures of the feudal order and is gradually imposing its hegemony over the course of a century-long process of secularization. We hate the Europe of the market: the market economy and, consequently, liberal civilization (first oligarchic, and then democratic). After the formation (and, what is worse, the spread throughout the world) of all these ideological infections from which the modern world suffers, today's Europe has degraded even more, turning into a colony of the United States - from a cultural, political, military and economic point of view. We believe that Europe must, above all, recover from the American evil ... The only radical therapy can be caused by an internal rejection of the "values" of American civilization, a conscious return to the essence of the primary virtues of European culture ... Europeans need to take into account the inherent treasures of their own tradition."t. Franco Freda
>>544419585This compass is all fucked up.
>>544418944What is your basis for this? I support Palestine in their fight against the kikes, I support Ukraine's right to defend themselves from being fucking invaded. There is a caveat in the Ukraine conflict though in that they are clearly forcing the population into a grinder to depopulate the place so kikes can colonize it, so you could say they should just give up, but Russia is also ZOG so it's a lose-lose for the Ukrainians.
>>544419585is this compass an example of the famous australian 'bantz'
>>544419206>>544419451See this graphthe fact of the matter is that democrats and republicans are centrists who are ultimately pro-west and want the current system to prevailIsrael and Ukraine are military bases of the west.Unfortunately it's impossible to hold a coherent moral view to be a supporter of both as you noticed. If you want to be against invasion you're pro Ukraine but then you're forced to be against Israel (democrat stance). If you want to be pro genocide of the 'bad enemies' you're pro Israel and then you cant really be pro Ukraine. So what both parties do is that they focus your shilling on their respective military base thats in correct moral postion (republicans on Israel, democrats on Ukraine) while PERFORMATIVELY condemning the other (you still support them anyway like trump supports Ukraine all the way since 2024 despite promising to end the war day 1).On the graph both parties are actually on the centre but democrats pretend to be on the left while republicans on the right
>>544419665>I support Ukraine's right to defend themselves from being fucking invaded.>I support the Islamic States right to defend themselves from being fucked invaded [by Syria and Iraq] !!>What do you mean its a terrorist group? its a state whos leadership consists of government ministers!!
republicans are zionists openly while democtats are zionists secretlynothing really would change if their were elected
>>544419867>Palestine = ISIS The most braindead kike gaslighting argument ever concocted
>>544419794desu there needs to be a "supports Ukraine and Palestine" region at the far right edge since actual National Socialists are vehemently opposed to Russia, on account of, you know, the current Russian government having arrested shittons of National Socialists in Russia (and had countless others flee to Ukraine)
>>544419206Left wing white people have the exact same positions as browns: white = bad. Right wing ones somehow deluded themselves that an ex-KGB spook will save the West from trannies and migrants.
>>544419931Ukraine = Islamic State*A totalitarian genocidal political project that exists only to destroy and kill (the enemies of the Judeo-American imperialism) since its artifical creationUkrainians do not existUkrainian langauge does not existUkrainian culture does not existUkrainian history does not existJoining Ukrainism is a conscious political decision
>>544418944>Why are pro-palestinian usually vehemently against Ukraine?I've never seen this. The same people who fly faggot flags, put up BLM signs, and have Ukraine bumper stickers on their Suburus now post "Free Palestine."
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>>544420046>>544419548Tucker Carlson has this exact stance on the issue. It's actually pretty common.
>>544419945I agree this graph is a little outdate from before pootin started basing his smo on 'denazification'
>>544419404There are plenty, and several types>shitlibs who think israel is a western colony i.e. white and therefore hate it>normies who see a genocide going on and can't get behind it>third positionists who see it as a means of drawing attention to the evil nature of the jews
>>544419634It's got the pairings right in principle, just placed in wrong areas.
>>544420070Yeah? I don't support Israel but Muslims are a much bigger issue in France right now.
>>544418944Pro Palestine shitlibs are usually pro Ukraine, its mainly tankies/eurasianists and the TRS/Warstrike crowd that support Russia and Palestine. You also have wignats like this who like Hamas and Azov too but that's a niche crowd for sure. >>544419945
>>544420046>I've never seen this.Literally all reddit troons have this mindset: /r/trueanon.
>>544420170I wouldn't describe it as pro-Palestinian or anti-Ukraine though. More like pic related.
>>544418944Most people who are pro-Palestinian oppose both Russia and Israel because they consider them the aggressors.But yes, people who support American Empire almost invariably support both Ukraine and Israel. People who oppose American Empire see Israel and Ukraine as a tool to maintain/expand American Empire.Within the United States, right-wingers who don't support Israel or NATO expansion are usually American-Empire skeptics like Ron Paul and other libertarians, or Paleo-Conservatives like Pat Buchanan(Tucker Carlson is increasingly in that camp).
>>544419585you've got the onions jack and the tranny mixed up. reddit stands for israel and going against jews will get your ass banned in no time
>>544418944Maybe on 4chan, but in more leftist spaces the most common position is the intellectually consistent one: Ukraine and Palestine are victims of imperialist aggression and leftists tend to support both. American polling also backs this up to a degree.
>>544420269Russia was Ukraine, Ukraine is the new country. this is the basis for Putin's invasion, to liberate the indigenous. just like Israel is the new country. the twist is that the Russian Federation is also a new country, just like the State of Palestine. but they claim continuity with what used to be there.
>>544418944Ukraine has nothing to do with Palestine.
>>544422143someone who is Russia/Israel is saying Russia is a new country, which it is. but then what do they want do with it? they usually can't answer that which is why it looks like a retard. leave it to the Jews and Russia.someone who is Ukraine/Israel is saying Ukraine is a new country, which it is. but then what do they want do with it? they usually can answer that but it's short sighted, playing dress up. then leave it to the Jews and Ukraine.
>>544422078>intellectually consistent oneAlmost everyone is "intellectually consistent" when it comes to Ukraine/Russia and Israel/Palestine, retard. Even "the end justifies the means" is intellectually consistent. If you think people are being intellectually inconsistent it's because you have an overly simplistic worldview.
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>>544418944Ukraine is allied with Israel and are fighting Russia, Russia is allied with Iran who is fighting Israel. Why would anyone getting killed by Israel support their allies and CIA ops?
>>544418944When a question is asked in /pol/ the correct answer is always jews.
>>544422448The percentage of Jews who support Russia is almost nil. It's not even clear whether the Jews in Russia support Russia. Their existence is presumed to be support.99.9% of global Jewry is pro-Ukraine.
I don't even care about Palestine desu, but fuck Ukrainians, they're fucking retards.
>>544422530Jew = money, it's about where capital is flowing. it flows from your country to Israel, then either to Ukraine or Russia. capital flows from Russia to Israel then to your country via oligarchs. whether capital also flows from Ukraine to Israel then to your country is something only the Bidens would know. the debate is about where the capital should be going, Russia or Ukraine and whether one or the other is even a valid entity, just like Israel. or whether capital should be leaving or going to these countries at all. your president is playing this game right now and can't make up his mind. it really doesn't matter what people say they support, it's about where they spend their money.
>>544418944I don't actually like Palestine or hate Ukraine, but I just support whatever hurts jews the most, which means supporting Palestine and Russia.
>>544422646No, retard. The war is about protecting the Rothschild financial monopoly. Why do you think Britain is the biggest fucking hyena when it comes to war with Russia?
>>544422078>consistentThe real leftist position on Ukraine vs Russia is that its imperialist infighting. Ukraine are ethnonationalist nazis and Russia is ethnonational imperialist. Neither are good, and there are plenty of fights that leftists care more about. Only western liberals equate CIA proxy wars with "liberation" but those arent really leftists. Left vs right in the west is just rightwing infighting
>>544422696Britain is also a capital destination, I didn't mention it to keep it simple and get the point across that Jew = money. it can go to many places. You literally just agreed with me then said you don't and called it Rothschild instead. purposely muddying the debate. suddenly Israel is irrelevant again to the Russo-Ukraine War .
>>544422774I didn't agree with you. You went on a schizo nonsensical rant. No, Jews start world wars when rising powers begin to challenge their global financial system. Russia and China and BRICS are a threat to the Jewish "world order". So Jews are trying to destroy/subordinate Russia and monopolize the global energy trade to contain/encircle/subordinate/bankrupt China and preserve dollar hegemony.The idea that Jews are pro-Russian is completely nonsensical. Which is why 99.9% of global Jewry are pro-Ukraine.
>>544422483It doesn't seem the US support Ukraine very much lately.
>>544419451>muh moralslol, lmao even
>>544423031>It doesn't seem the US support Ukraine very much lately.Ukraine would lose in five minutes without US satellites/Starlink. This is America's war. Always has been. We're just forcing our cuck vassals to pay up because they have no choice.
>>544419062correct. its always was and always will be about race. white is incompatible with yellow, brown or black. there is not a single scenario or circumstance where a white country should let brown people in. they will never become white and they will always hate you regardless if they worship christ, mohammed or buddha
>>544423031A lot of liberals and military industrial complex types are big mad about Ukraine getting backstabbed by neocons desu. IMO we are overstretched and shouldn't have been meddling and giving Ukraine false hope in the first place. Trump is an idiot but since this has become another expensive quagmire that has destabilized the world, there is no obvious and easy fix and this is a good time to exit as there will ever be because we at least have a legitimate reason to distance ourselves from a loose cannon and doomed proxy war.
>>544423031While its true support for Ukraine in America is a bit of a forced meme, you wouldn't guess that from mainstream media with pro-Israeli ties. Most major news outlets consider Trump limiting starlink a betrayal, instead of the other way around of Ukraine refusing to let us buy diesel because boycotting Russia is more important than economic pragmatism and energy stability. There is also a big psyop right now equating Ukraine killing data centers as a good thing thats killing right wing botfarms, even though we already know troll and rightwing bot farms are mainly Israeli and Indian from the time X/Twatter revealed IP locations.
>>544422900surrounding the Rothschilds are all the exiled Israeli-Russian oligarchs. their assets are frozen so we don't know who they support and where they would send their capital. one side is saying it should all go to Ukraine as reparations, another side like Trump would probably like it to go back to Russia as some kind of peace offering. the political compass is showing which side supports what and why. >>544419585what is the mentality of the pro-Israel pro-Russia crowd? they do exist, mostly from your country but you keep changing so nobody can keep track of what you believe. they can rarely articulate what the hell they want which is why it's drooling.
I say fuck all mudshits and I'm vehemently against Ukraine.
>>544418944Literally only tankies and pol tards have this position. Neolibs and neocons are pro zionist/pro slav genocide and normies don't care
>Ukrainetwo shitty oligarchies fighting over which of them gets to exploit the lands on their border (the people living there would probably prefer independence from both, but don't get a choice) and forcing normies to fight and die for them.>PalestineA people forced to live under perpetual military occupation from a government which sees them as 'Amalek', to be driven out or slaughtered en masse, or at best forced into ever-shrinking ghettos which can not sustain human lifeDifferent situations, simple as
>>544418944lol lmao even, listen in the four way loyalty split between urkaine-russia and israel-palestine, all of them can go kill eachother, semites and eastern slavs are both not welcome in the ethnostate.
>>544418944Antifa backs palestine and ukraine.Why lie nafo troon
>>544419062Retarded kike.>>544418944Ukraine and Israel are eurokike colonies.
>>544418944They're mostly communists, and they want the USSR to be a thing again.
>>544423691>surrounding the Rothschilds are all the exiled Israeli-Russian oligarchs.Correct.>one side is saying it should all go to Ukraine as reparations, another side like Trump would probably like it to go back to Russia as some kind of peace offeringNo. That isn't what is happening at all. Trump isn't trying to transfer Russia jack shit. He is trying to save Republican asses before the mid-terms. He's also continuously promising $5k if Republicans win Congress, while Republicans try to make the mid-terms all about socialism/communism/etc.What Trump is actually trying to do(and has been trying to do since his first presidency) is split Russia from China. Basically, he wants to destroy BRICS and then confront China(pivot to Asia).In the United States you have Russia-hawks and China-hawks. The Russia-hawks want to balkanize and subordinate Russia and then use its manpower and resources against China. The China-hawks want to create a temporary understanding with Russia so they can divert all their resources into containing/rolling back China. Trump is a China-hawk. Biden was a Russia-hawk. Both ultimately have the same objectives but different strategies.
>>544425207They're not. In France the biggest leftist party is really pro-palestine and pro-russia.
>>544425207The radical left/Anti-fa (= commies) have always been the Muslims' anti-White lemmings and supported Palestinians, Sandinists, Russians and other brownies.
>>544425207They aren’t I remember when the war started antifa here immediately took a stand against nato
>>544425735Being anti-Israel and anti-America is the position of every revolutionary. Supporting Ukraine and Israel is supporting globalism/American Empire/capitalism/etc..
>>544418944BRICKS.You are also a retarded frog for not knowing it.
>>544426022Last time I checked your capitalists are sucking Putin dicks and surrendering, retard.
>>544418944Have you noticed from which tribe is Ukraine led by? Oh yeah, Zelensky is openly a jew, most of his cabinet is jew, most of his fired cabinet members for corruption fled to Israel, so on.Ukraine is literally part of the ZOG and only braindead retards like on /uhg/ don't see that.
