>have to send your most over guy (Ospreay) after a midcard belt so your company doesn't look racist having the black champion lose the belt instantlySwerve is holding AEW hostage.
good, i don't want Ospreay winning the world title straight away
ospreay should have been going for a midcard belt instead of okada
>>14410987Will is only 30, I'm good with him having an "Ospreayverse" type role right now.
>>14411010"only" 30
The longer he holds the title the more he'll be exposed.
Ospreay just got there. let him do some stories and then go for the belt. I think it's a mistake for him to get the belt already. It took Cody 3 years into his WWE return to finally win the title. Set up a good heel champion for him to take it from.
>>14411013That's nothing in 2024. Trick Williams is 29. Most of the guys at Mania were close to or past 40. And sports medicine gets better every year.
>>14411073and that's why wrestling fucking sucks today. The rock was 32 when he RETIRED, and we all know how dimes he was before then. Pretty much legend tier and returns now and then for a quick angle or match. Now you have overrated midcarders like CAWDY JUST NOW finishing his story and getting a title. JUST NOW. at 39.
>>14411073has it always been like this? i felt like guys at the top were younger in the past.
>>14411089>>14411119There is a bad trend now where the top of the cards just feel like it's earned by seniority and climbing the corporate ladder. That's across the board to a degree as wall. The roster should be at war with each other with wrestlers of all kinds crawling to the top. Rookies always eat shit and it's just "let it play out" until they grind for years until they get somewhere. Needs more Rainmaker Shock type moments.
>>14411136this is what annoys me about cucky runnels. He took his ball and went home, supposedly made it in jobber promotions, then came back to the wwe and was treated like a huge star because "He deserves it now". FUCKING WHY? Why does this cocksucker deserve anything now? Because he made a name for himself in the bingo halls? for all wwe is concerned he's still fucking stardust.
>>14411157He wasn't treated like a huge star because "he deserves it now". "He deserves it now" BECAUSE he became a huge star. He's over. He sells merch. He draws.
>>14411189he draws because wwe won't stop shoving him in the fans' faces. If they pushed fucking otunga as a big time champion and he put in the same effort as cawdy at being marketable he'd be the top merch seller. He doesn't draw shit. In order to see who actually sells merch look at the numbers of people that aren't pushed to the moon. Those are the people that actually sell due to their characters or social media presence. Perfect example being la knight. constantly buried by fucking midcarders yet still a top merch seller. Those are the actual fucking draws. Not some faggot that's shoved in your face as "the guy".
>>14411136>The roster should be at war with each other with wrestlers of all kinds crawling to the top.Correct.
>>14411241Have Breakker beat Bisexual Undertaker. Have Takeshtia beat Mox.
>>14411157It was a strategic maneuver. Cody is/was simply a pawn. To him, in his world, he's getting paid, and is therefore not being used, but he's just a chess piece. A part of him must know this, but he doesn't really owe the Bucks or AEW his life. He has a wife and kid now. Ultimately, though, he is bait.>>14411223This. The machine can make average guys seem like draws.
>>14411157You're basically trying to answer the fundamental question of wrestling, "how do you become a draw". No-one fucking knows. For every Orton there's a Chris Masters, for every Batista there's Ryback or someone who gets stuck with a dancing gimmick.Even an individual wrestler can go from "literally dead career" to "biggest name in the company" like Cena did.
>>14411223Type that without sounding like a deranged lunatic
its ok to admit you're racistjust say you dont like black people and dont enjoy seeing one as champion
>>14410987Swerve will drop the belt to Cole when MJF returns later this year, MJF vs Cole for the title was the original plan and it still is the plan.
>>14411303orton has ring psychology, masters did not. Orton did some okay character work when he acted like a schizo, masters did not. Literally all masters had was physique. How do you become a draw? a few recognizable moves, so no, doing some 450 630 while jacking off in the air isn't good, theme song, absolutely essential, and finally character work, so promos and psychology alongside an actual personality. while orton is not great on the mic he has god tier psychology and had some personality when he acted like a schizo punting people all over the place.
>>14411306awe sorry did i hurt your fe-fees? literally a cawdy crybaby lmao
>>14411223Even if this deranged rant was accurate, it wouldn't matter. Selling x amount of merch because you were pushed and x amount when you weren't still comes out as x.
>>14411341>muh derangedthis is why wrestling fucking sucks today. because you have mark faggots like you getting offended by a few curse words. At least you are a pussy because you'll never see one. was your life in danger by my paragraph tony?
>>14411327psychology in-ring has nothing to do with being over, because people can get over even if they ignore psychology, or because they get over and then it doesn't hurt them if they do ignore it (eg hogan & osprey with their no-selling), and some people never get over even if their psychology is great (eg people like perry saturn) or don't get over to a high level or beyond a certain small promotion (eg raven or al snow)
>>14411029>Set up a good heel champion for him to take it fromThat's why I say have heel Hangman take the title off of Swerve and then put Ospreay over
>>14410987It's a fucking retarded decision putting the strap on Swerve lmao
>>14411073Holy fuck LA Knight is 41?
>>14411119From their first reign as championRoman Reigns was 30 in 2015John Cena was 28 in 2005Steve Austin was 34 in 1998Hulk Hogan was 32 in 1985Ric Flair was 32 in 1981Buddy Rogers was 40 in 1961Lou Thez was 33 in 1949William Muldoon was 28 in 1880
>>14411413it has something to do with keeping people hooked once you draw them in with promos, theme song and personality. It is least important of all the traits but it is good to have.>osprey over with whom? hardcore smarks that watch aew? he's a literal who, hogan is an icon and his no selling was part of his character.>perry saturnmoppy was over because it was an actual character.
>>14411303Ryback was making money for WWE. they killed him on purpose and turned him heel because Punk/Cena didn't like him.
>>14411263I would watch this. They would never do either because 1) Mox wouldn't do the job and 2) 41yo Priest is being treated like an up and coming star.
>Ospreay>>most over guy
>>14410987Dave Meltzer is the only person over in AEW
>>14412703yes, by like a mileit's fine if you want to say he's not over by WWE standards, but he is the most over guy in AEW
>>14411223This is pretty easy to disprove, because WWE have attempted to push multiple guys who failed at drawing Romain Reigns is the perfect example, he had the longest sustained push failure of anyone in the history of the business. He eventually became a draw, but that was only after a drastic change of approach in an unprecedented era.
>>14410987Swerve it just holding it for him until Wembley where he can get the massive UK pop for the win.
>>14412844Bong headcanon
>>14412910who in AEW is more over than him right now lmao
>>14412883that's because romanetty wasn't marketable and the smarks (The most vocal part) hated him. now he's literally the same guy just as a heel and he's among the top sellers. now he's great though apparently
