>>19810951
Go back to your JCW containment thread.

he loves worked shoots too much and they get really boring if there's too many of them
if he could keep himself from trying to break keyfabe all the time it would be fine

>>19810994
can we give the guy a cutesy nickname like russosimp or something

>>19811169
Poosoniggers

>>19811183
Wow that really rolls off the tongue

>>19811183
yeah idk about that one
swervebros? sidcripplers? polematchsmokers?
this isn't my best work but I'm trying

>>19810951
Mr 50s needs the belt

>>19810951
Aew should hire him and destroy wwe

>>19810951
The GOAT

QRD on why I should watch and when I should start from? Is this shits actually good or is it a TNA situation where people say it's good, but it's pure cheeks?

>>19810951
if Russo were working for one of the televised feds, they would censor his best ideas, ignore the others, and give us the same bland corporate garbage they always do. even russo could not save them. there is no future in WWE, AEW, TNA, or any other company that is on TV. The problem lies with TV itself and the people who run it.

>>19812119
it's actually good, and I would recommend starting around episode 55 or so. JCW is better than TNA ever was.

>>19812119
Like what era do you mean man was around for a lot of stuff
Usually it's better after he's gone but I don't hate the guy, he had some decent ideas and was the shoot impetus for the early AE

>>19812133
fuck off poosonigger/polematchsmoker

>>19812140
I like Russo and his TNA. I meant current TNA. People say it's a good show but it's garbage to me. I know this isn't going to be like TNA, but people here have a habit of hyping up mediocrity so I'm wary.

>>19812194
If you liked Russo's TNA you should feel right at home.

>>19812150
>everything i don't like must be one person!
literal schizophrenia and a tired gimmick that got old and retarded years ago. fuck off with this shit, you're as lame as WWE and AEW.

>>19812194
well, all I can tell you is this: I also find current TNA to be unwatchable, but I'm loving JCW lately. I like NWA too, but JCW has just been knocking it out of the park like nobody else lately.

>>19812233
kk.. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt bro
but I want someone to tell me if I get brought up on the podcast. casting the marks segment or whatever, I think Russo paywalls his shit

WWE need Russo and the ring rat

>>19810951
As much as I was skeptical about him, there's still his times where he produces kino moments. Early TNA for example and the ICP's angles in WCW. However, I did enjoy what the ICP were doing with JCW since I was the one that started the discussions and gamethreads regarding the promotion back in early 2024. However, Violent J is right about the wrestling media. They always shaft promotions they hate despite their accomplishments. JCW drew 4,000 people to The Rave in Milwaukee during the Strangle-Mania Live tour. Not a single word about it was mentioned by the media. A month later, ECW heads to The Rave and the wrestling media blows up.

>>19810994
>Mr Kennedy is the champion
grim

>>19812345
To be honest here, at least it isn't one of the GCW shitters with the title. Besides that, Mr. Kennedy was, and still is, a pretty entertaining wrestler.

>>19810994
/asp/ has always been a Russoboard

>>19812133
To be honest, I did also enjoy Lunacy's first few episodes and then the stuff leading up to the 2 Day War PPV (aka. Bloodymania 18) despite GCW mostly using their shitters with some exceptions (Great Sasuke, 2 Cold Scorpio, PCO, Dr. Redacted, Nate Webb, and Matt Tremont. However, YDNP also redeemed themselves later on before signing with AEW)

>>19812287
very true, the wrestling media is ridiculously biased. I learned that a long time ago when they completely blacklisted XPW for going against the wokeshit. say what you will about rob black and company, but there is no denying that most of the "wrestling media" are just literal fucking shills.

>>19812430
I enjoyed it too, but I wouldn't recommend it to people who are new to JCW. the crossover angle with GCW ended well, with JCW getting the victory, but unfortunately the GCW shitters really did ruin a couple months worth of lunacy episodes. even seeing effy, sonny kiss, of joey janela one time is enough to make me pissed off for days.

>>19812450
It's because wrestling became corporatized. Wrestlers and indies now are scared to do anything that could come back to haunt them later down the line if they ever want to make it to the big time, so everything is completely sanitized and dialed down.

>>19812450
True on that and I will say, Rob Black is one mind in the wrestling industry that always tried to push what was acceptable in the industry (even on syndicated TV). Even enjoyed watching the first iteration of XPW TV and Monday Nightmares when the show moved to Philadelphia. However, Rob Black does have his problems. For example, threatening to cut off the thumb of Messiah (however, he did get his thumb cut off by some unnamed men who entered his home) and later on threatening Jasmin St. Claire with cutting off her thumb. Thankfully she left XPW since that time I think was probably the worst period for XPW (the period shortly before it went bust)

>>19812471
exactly. people keep saying they want the attitude era back, but then they refuse to watch anything except the televised feds which, as you said, are completely unable/unwilling to take even the smallest of risks or do anything even remotely edgy.

>>19812468
To be honest here, if they had picked better wrestlers to lead their side, it would've been more enjoyable. Effy honestly had that GCW world title for far too long and honestly, I wouldn't have minded if GCW decided to put the belt on someone else like Tremont or even Dr. Redacted. YDNP were pretty good as well for tag team champs though honestly, if they had dropped Sonny Kiss, Effy, and Janela or made the job here and replaced them with more respectable wrestlers, I would've respected GCW more. However, I hear they are booking The Outbreak, Mad Man Pondo, and 2 Tuff Tony on a few of their upcoming shows now.

>>19812512
and I meant to say "made them jobbers" dammit auto correct.

>>19812476
XPW was honestly a shitshow, I won't deny that. at the same time, they were the only fed at that time who was willing to defy the woke tyranny and tell all the pearl clutchers to go fuck themselves. they actually tried to create something like a new attitude era, but most people never even heard about it because the entire "wrestling media" just completely blacklisted them. then they got kicked off fite tv because a mexican referee referred to mexicans in the audience as beaners and wetbacks. they got strangled out of the market for daring to support free speech and I will always respect Rob for that part of it.

>>19812530
How are people this fuckinh stupid actually real

>>19812530
Well Rob Black honestly wasn't always that type of guy. Remember, when he got raided by the feds, a lot of the industry he started out in hated his ass. Hell, I do believe he has some issues backstage which got a few wrestlers and talent members caught in the crossfire, but in regards to putting on a wrestling product, at least he tries to do a good job.

>>19812512
yeah I agree. if they had avoided using effy, sonny, and janela, that would have made it a lot better. I honestly think that GCW is more interested in woke political agendas than they are in wrestling. those three people in particular (effy, janela, and sonny) literally send me into a murderous rage every time I see them. I literally want them to die the most horrible deaths imaginable.

>>19812542
at least I can spell lol. how are things in karnataka this morning?

>>19812548
yeah there has always been a scummy aspect to rob black, I won't deny that. some of the movies he made back in the day were just off the charts disgusting. But I supported XPW because I felt that he was the only one left with a set of balls. I never approved of certain things but I respected his willingness to stand up to the established order, and I really think he could have put GCW out of business if given a fair chance. I watched as the entire "wrestling media" closed ranks to protect their favorite woke shitshow, and I have had a vicious hatred for GCW ever since. at first the media fags tried shaming tactics, and when that didn't work they just started ignoring XPW entirely and refusing to even acknowledge their existence. that, combined with them getting kicked off fitetv and blacklisted from every other platform, is what killed the company. I won't deny it, I am still fighting mad about what those faggots did. I am sick of seeing everything good in the world get sabotaged by scumbags.

>>19812584
Xpw was a bunch of none drawing Deathmatch shows with no name value even among the people that like that stuff many idk why you would expect wrestling media to talk about that or care that it did or didn't

>>19812584
Agreed. If the wrestling media had given XPW a fair chance and saw it for what it is (and gave out balanced criticism), I could see XPW being a big part of the hardcore indie wrestling business as CZW, IWA Mid South, and JCW have been. GCW would have to rely more on their WrestleMania weekend shows along with their global audiences but things could've been different if XPW ended up not going bust a few years ago.

>>19812607
dear god sar, could you be any more indian? if XPW was so dimeless, why did WXM rip off their entire aesthetic? yeah that's right, some of us noticed that.

>>19812620
for sure. hardcore wrestling in particular has suffered a lot as a result of woke censorship. you can't really do "hardcore" wrestling without getting edgy and crossing some lines. when people try that, you just get a lot of mindless, pointless violence. the blood is there, the weapons/fuckery are there, but that's not even the most important part. the rebellion aspect is the most important parts. for all his faults, Heyman understood that fact, and that's why ECW is still so fondly remembered.

>>19811195
Rutards

>>19812607
Might as well drop a few names that had value during that time.
>New Jack (former ECW tag team champion)
>Vampiro (former WCW tag team champion and the man that brought the JCW heavyweight title to Nitro)
>Sabu (of course everyone knows who he is. Former ECW champ, WWE icon, and the son of the original Sheik)
>Tessa Blanchard (mostly known for her TNA stuff and the daughter of Tully Blanchard who is better known for his work with Jim Crockett Promotions)
>Drake Younger (deathmatch icon and former WWE referee)
>Mecha Wolf (known for his work in the NWA, AAA, and JCW)
>Thom Latimer (former TNA King of the Mountain champion and former NWA world's heavyweight champion)
>Juventud Guerrera (former WWE and WCW cruiserweight champion)
>Nosawa Rongai (former JCW heavyweight champ and former CMLL world welterweight champion. He's now booking with Pro Wrestling NOAH)
>Terry Funk (another ECW icon and former WCW and former ECW champion)
>Shane Douglas (former WWE intercontinental champion and former WCW champion)
>Tracy Smothers (territory wrestling icon and former ECW tag team champ, former SMW champ, and former WCW United States tag team champ)
>Matt Cross (former Lucha Underground trios champion and former JCW heavyweight champion)
>The Sandman (another ECW icon and former ECW champ)

There's a lot more wrestlers who have had matches in XPW I can name off the top of my head that have had success in the major promotions.

>>19812649
Paul Heyman in my opinion was the man who's creative mind made people care about hardcore wrestling and ECW as well along with writing some great storylines to go along with it.

>>19811169
Whosso

>>19812715
a lot of people would be surprised to know that the final holder of the XPW television title was X-Pac.

>>19812803
Even Rey Mysterio's father wrestled in XPW at one time.

>>19812735
I can't deny that, honestly. Ive talked some raw stuff about Heyman in the past but he did create some serious magic with ECW. I really believe that ECW was the most important element of the 90s wrestling scene because they changed the whole game at a time when WWF and WCW were hopelessly stagnant.

>>19812632
Ive never heard of wxm in my life
>>19812715
I was talking about the reboot specifically
>Mecha wolf and thom Latimer
These guys aren't names to anyone but billy Corgan

>>19812837
Mecha Wolf already had a bunch of starts in AAA last year. WWE even sold merch of him even though he wasn't signed.

>>19812837
mecha wolf and thom latimer are literally two of my favorite wrestlers in the world. WWE and AEW do not hold a monopoly on relevance.

Did you guys ever try to watch the XPW YouTube show it was terrible
>5 minute long intro
>multiple segments of rob black at his dildo shop office
>Random old xpw match
Then maybe you would get a new match or some shlak kino

I'm not a Russo fan but JCW has become the best weekly us pro wrestling show since he's been working with them.
for me it's, big Vito and the ring rat

>>19812879
yeah I have to admit, the weekly show was not particularly good. I often didn't even make gamethreads for those shows because it was mostly recaps and a little bit of storyline stuff. their monthly ppvs were the real attraction.

>>19810951
Vinny the GOAT

>>19812886
I hated Russo's work in WCW, to be honest. I don't blame him for the death of the company (because they had huge problems before russo even showed up and the corporate merger would have killed them regardless of any booking decision) but Russo's cartoonish style was not a good fit for WCW. JCW, on the other hand, is the perfect environment for him.

What happened with Vampiro? Him leaving feels like something more serious than Cardona getting signed to WWE.

>>19813084
it's hard to say because russo really loves worked shoots

bumpo

>>19810951
Cornette marks seething

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>>19810951
WOOP WOOP

Russo is a joke, has always been a joke, and while putting every title on Lance Storm was hilariously based, I'm still mad at him for helping kill WCW and trying his best to kill old school TNA.

>>19814414
That Canadian rules match he did with Mike Awesome was pure kino

>>19810951
putting his world title on Mr. Kennedy is kino? You all love shitting on WWE but the shit you watch is objectively worse. Mr. Fucking Kennedy in 2026? Fucking wild

>>19814979
Russo Marks glazing Russo just for coming back to write for a mudlaw wrestling show started by Fat Clowns in 1999.

LMFAO.

Mr Kennedy should have left WWE for Japan and Mexico instead for TNA and now JCW.

>>19811195
>polematchsmokers

Pole matches were way more common before Russo entered the business but with him they became more parody & deconstruction. Having things like a bottle of Viagra & Judy Bagwell suspended above the ring were ribs on the absurdity of the concept

>>19814979
I almost got shoot worked into thinking Russo might not be completely retarded in current year
Ken Anderson sucks ass

>>19814991
>coming back to write for a mudlaw wrestling show started by Fat Clowns in 1999

He's not writing for OVW though?

>>19814995
Fat fuck Anderson also has to wrestle in a t-shirt. Like CM Phil.

>>19814998
OVW is actually doing better than WWE, AEW, JCW in 2026.

Even helped developed Actual Stars compared to Russo pushing Billy Kidman, Lance Storm, Jeff Jarrett, Booker T, Chris Benoit to the moon.

Stop crying, Russo Mark.

>>19812026
WWE should hire him to destroy WWE

>>19814993
>ribs on the absurdity of the concept
are you ribbing me? doubt vinny ru thinks that deep
Man ain't Shakespeare

Russo reports the real news.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BofnIpclBI

We've watched him book WCW and TNA, and his WWF shit, and it was shit, would fly even less today. And he got a little dick.

>>19812715
>Matt Cross
De-legitimize's anything he's part of

>>19812119
It's Juggalo faggotry spearheaded by one of the biggest retards to ever be involved in the business. There's no way in fucking hell any of this is good.

Kek marks seething at big ratings Russo ITT

>>19815501
Ah the projection route. Always trying to discredit shit you don't understand.

>>19815011
>same promotion that is developing talent like Haley J and Alice Crowley
The era you are talking about is long gone.

>>19814991
>mudlaw
Spotted the Cornytard.

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>>19814991
>Mudlaw
I wasn't aware that Cornette's influence reached to Bombay.

>>19815011
yeah that post just told me that you don't even watch OVW. they haven't produced a star since cena and orton. OVW is not that bad in terms of content but I won't watch it anymore because it's now owned by the crooked jewish mayor of Louisville. Fuck Cornette, I know he voted for that piece of shit.

>>19815328
and there goes Lucha Underground, AAA, CZW, Ring of Honor, Reality of Wrestling, etc. The hypocrisy of you retards is making me laugh.

>>19815501
you're a brainlet and a buttfucking homosexual, just so you know.

>>19815715
Now it's owned by a British sports management company. How ironic. Only good talent that came out of OVW after WWE was a lot of the Ring Ka King talent, a bunch of the TNA talent, Haley J, and Alice Crowley.

>>19815328
Matt Cross is better than nearly everyone in WWE or AEW, the fuck are you talking about?

>>19815747
That user's just projecting their hypocrisy onto others. Feel free to give the retard you're replying to a nickname.

>>19815561
Yep. Dronewheels is seething.

>>19815738
Honestly, I'm not willing to watch anything that's associated with craig greenberg, otherwise it would be on my list. Al Snow was always an excellent trainer and WWE is absolutely retarded for creating NXT. They already had a proven and competent training system and they chose to scrap that so that HHH could pretend to be an indie booker. >>19814995
and people like this are retarded for supporting it.

>>19815779
I'm retarded for supporting what, I don't watch the modern product I am just highly skeptical of the supposed Russo renaissance that some niggers are trying to sell on here. the russosaince if you will

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>>19815722
In all fairness, Austin Aries's trios with him and Erick Stevens sucked. They only existed to fight the No Remorse Corp who I actually really liked (Roderick Strong, Davey Richards, Rocky Romero.)

All of the cool shit he was doing on DVDs was being done on TV by Kofi Kingston and he didn't advance or think of new shit to replace the shit that is now WWE shit. So the stagnation has worked against him.

And on top of it all, he was buried by Stone Cold HARD on Tough Enough. He was first eliminated because he had a decade under his belt and needed a reality show to get WWE to notice him which means he was never good enough to begin with.

So
>Flippy shit guy
>Same old shit
>25 years of the same spots
>No presence
>No aura
>Peaked getting on to comps for his Josh Prohibition matches as a teenager

>>19815648
>>19815732
If there was any doubt about JCW being bottom of the barrel trash then just take a look at these Russo cock gobblers

>>19815790
>never good enough to begin with when Tough Enough's revival was a dumpster fire
Hypocrisy all around

>>19815817
If there was any doubt at WWE being bottom of the barrel trash now, take a look at the Cornytards and the dronewheels.

>>19815788
ok I'll take you at your word and assume that you aren't one of the tards who watches NXT. if that's the case, you might as well support the great russosaince because it's the best thing goin today. most of the other options are complete shit. WWE is a soulless empty husk of what it once was, AEW is a parade of boring workrate matches and nonsensical storytelling, CMLL is only good if you speak spanish, AAA hasn't been good in decades and is responsible for bringing troons to WWE, NJPW is great sometimes but Gedo's awful booking keeps it from reaching its full potential, GCW is a pit of degenerates who got Sabu killed, ROH is just Khantanamo Bay now, TNA is even more of a joke than ever since they jobbed everyone out to NXT shitters, and MLW just keeps fumbling. so at the end of the day there aren't a whole lot of good options left.

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>>19815738
>a lot of the Ring Ka King talent
Idk if he wrestled in OVW but I am now missing Barood.

>>19815844
What I was saying was that OVW had trained the wrestlers that were on Ring Ka King before sending them back to India to tape the show. Fuck, a bunch of the TNA talent were brought on to oversee the training of the Indian talent.

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>>19815790
that's a roundabout way of saying that you rejected him because WWE rejected him. slurp the slop you filthy little pig. you let the jews do all your thinking for you? Ari Emanuel should be gassed and you should be forced to watch.

>>19815788
Hey, remember Big Vito? The guy who wrestled in a dress 20 years ago? He must be golf buddies with Russo because the whole show operates on Vito starting shit with people and kicking the shit out of them until he gets blindsided. The big blow-off being built up is Vito vs Violent J.

Also, Russo sells NOTHING. Like he always sells nothing. Literally the only thing I have ever seen him sell is Dusty Rhodes when he had the angle warning AJ Style that he may not survive a Bunkhouse Brawl with the American Dream. How does the guy who takes full credit for the wrestling boom that came from an angle where a wrestler constantly beats, berates and humiliates his boss think that cool boss that no one can get to is actually dimes?

The wrestling is what you would expect of a post-AEW indie. The fly-ins are memes and TNA guys, most everyone else is who they could get for the taping on top of the deathmatch shitters like 2 Tuff Tony and Mad Man Pondo who have been working with ICP since Y2K.

Doesn't Vampiro have Alzheimer's or some shit? He there too. He is also in charge like Vito and Vince while Violent J is away. There are a lot of Vs on this show and all of them hold power.

But it's wrestling where you can just watch an edgy wrestling show that isn't afraid to lean into comedy (it is a clown fed, after all) on YouTube with the strangest ad breaks I have seen. There was a dude who bought an ad to promote a diss track he made on Violent J on Violent J's fucking show.

>>19815866
big vito is proving every week that WWE is hopelessly retarded. this guy is one of the best talkers in the business, and the only thing WWE could think to do with him was put him in a goddamn dress and basically kill his career. WWE literally tried to turn vito into a tranny, think about that for a minute and you'll realize how bad they fumbled on him.

>>19815862
The first two things and the summation is how I feel after watching him in Midwest indies for twenty years. The Tough Enough thing is to explain why a lot of WWE fans wrote him off.

>>19815842
for all I know you might be completely right, but I'm sorry lad, Rusoso writing for JCW is NOT gonna get me back into wrestling. the idea of it gives me 'the ick', as they say
also busted old Ken Anderson? dude's still hiring old shitters with supposed name value. like if you're gonna book an indy, book it like an indy
but like I said I wouldn't know he (Anderson) might be based now but i sincerely doubt it

>>19815884
I only liked him as Skull Von Krush.

>>19815885
well the vast majority of indie fans seem to disagree with you because Cross has made a decent living on the indies for a long time now. even at his current age, Cross doesn't go around botching everything like most of the sloppy untalented jabronis coming out of NXT.

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>>19815866
>Hey, remember Big Vito? The guy who wrestled in a dress 20 years ago? He must be golf buddies with Russo because the whole show operates on Vito starting shit with people and kicking the shit out of them until he gets blindsided.

>Also, Russo sells NOTHING. Like he always sells nothing. Literally the only thing I have ever seen him sell is Dusty Rhodes when he had the angle warning AJ Style that he may not survive a Bunkhouse Brawl with the American Dream. How does the guy who takes full credit for the wrestling boom that came from an angle where a wrestler constantly beats, berates and humiliates his boss think that cool boss that no one can get to is actually dimes?

I've heard enough. I hate ICP's fanbase and most of their music but I have always respected them as wrestlers and their knowledge of pro-wrestling history. They've gone full WCW 2000 retard if any of this is true.

>he wrestling is what you would expect of a post-AEW indie. The fly-ins are memes and TNA guys,
Now you've got me curious. I jumped in on TNA at their worst point. 2010.

>Doesn't Vampiro have Alzheimer's or some shit?
He's not the same guy from Lucha Underground anymore. Whatever's going on with him seems like the same thing going on with Raven these days.

>But it's wrestling where you can just watch an edgy wrestling show that isn't afraid to lean into comedy (it is a clown fed, after all) on YouTube with the strangest ad breaks I have seen.

Well, now I'm curious. How does one get caught up on the recent storylines and is there a video channel or somethinng?

>>19815890
so you don't even like wrestling? you do know you're on a wrestling board, right?

>>19815914
yep, just go to youtube and search for "JCW Lunacy". pay no attention to the cornette mark, he just hates it because Russo is involved. I would recommend starting at episode 55 or so and making up your own mind.

>>19815866
Thx for the proper breakdown, I have no real ill will towards jcdub. I hear they treat veterans well and are nice guys. I never liked russotainment though. That's why I'm so vitriolic itt
>>19815921
You know what, fuck you man. I love wrestling, just not the same type of wrestling you do.

>>19815932
you said
>Rusoso writing for JCW is NOT gonna get me back into wrestling
your words, not mine.

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>>19815930
Starting episode 55 now.
Thanks, fren.

>>19815944
i meant get me actively following a promotion again
also that was a spelling botch because I'm phone posting but it does look like I tried to call him 'Ru so-so' lol

>>19815932
what you are is a faggot, and you're gay for jim cornette. you would probably love to get cucked by that nerdy old cuck, thus becoming a double cuck and reaching a new level of cuckdom

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>>19815948
glad to help a fellow ninja. WHOOP WHOOP!

>>19815950
I dislike that hyperbolic cuck loser way more than Russo but go off king

>>19815948
>fuckin magnets. how do they work?
noatalgiabomb

>>19815957
well most of the people who truly hate vince russo are just cornette marks who believe everything he tells them. Im not saying the guy is perfect or that he hasn't made mistakes in the past, but he's doing a good job with JCW at a time when most other wrestling is trash.

>>19815890
I'll acknowledge that putting the belt on Mr. Kennedy is maybe not the best move, but it wouldn't have happened if WWE hadn't decided to poach Cardona immediately after he won the JCW title. for years they wouldn't take him back, but then he wins the JCW title and they sign him immediately. they don't even want Cardona, they're just going to job him out to NXT shitters in a futile attempt to get those dimeless botch machines over. they signed him for no other reason than to fuck with JCW and Russo, so Russo was forced to throw something else together at the last minute. and let me say this, anderson is not that great in the ring anymore but at least he can still cut a good promo.

>>19815974
I think Russo is a moron and I agree with Cornette about wrestling only about 20% of the time. They're polar opposites when if comes to wrestling booking. Corny insists that modern wrestling should only exist is this arbitrary point of time that only existed when he was in his prime and refuses to understand that it has evolved.

Russo, in the past, wanted to turn wrestling into some version of the Howard Stern show that would only appeal to a small percentage of New Yorkers, has eschewed the wrestling part of a wrestling show in favor of bad comedy, catchphrase spouting, and talking.

Somewhere in the middle, you've got a good booker. If I had a promotion and had to pick a booker, it would be Cornette over Russo. However, I will take Russo's side in their personal feud. Corny needs to let the past drop and I think Russo has tried to be the bigger man about that.

>>19816040
I'm the dude he originally replied to and I wanted to say you echoed my thoughts almost exactly. This binary 'smark vs antismark' stuff is a dogshit mindtrap, between those two extremes there's the real great stuff in wrasslin

>>19816040
>Corny needs to let the past drop and I think Russo has tried to be the bigger man about that.
well yeah one swears he wants to outlive the other to shoot piss on his grave (context: they disagree about wrestling booking philosophy), and the other is mostly cool about it these days afaik

>>19816040
honestly I can't disagree with most of this, but Russo seems to have evolved his views over time, unlike cornette. his work in JCW has not been the kind of ridiculous shit he did in WCW. he's only done one object-on-a-pole match, he hasn't put anyone's mother on a forklift, he hasn't tried to turn it into a porn show, and most of the angles have made sense.

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>>19816064
Sorry, I didn't mean to step on your reply but I'm happy to read there are others on /pw/ who don't have to be firmly in one camp or the other.

>>19816151
I've been watching and really enjoying episode 55 so far. In all honesty, this is much better than I expected and I'm really digging the mix of wrestlers I've never heard of who have a lot of talent and the wrestlers that I do know. If some of this is Russo's work, he's got my kudos, especially for learning to restrain some of his worst instincts and letting these guys and girls do their thing.

tl;dr: I was wrong, this is better than your average Indy and I will watch this show. Good luck to ICP and Vince Russo.

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Somehow, the Vince Russo thread has had more intelligent pro-wrestling discussion and is more civil than everything else on /pw/ combined.

>Mfw

>>19816293
It did end up surprisingly nice in the end, huh.

>>19816231
If you're enjoying 55 then you should really enjoy the rest of the episodes. You've got some kino wrestling to watch and it only gets better as it goes on.

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>>19816231
it takes a real man to admit when he was wrong. I was also wrong about you, you're not a retarded cornette mark after all.

>>19815885
What those fans don't know is that Tough Enough was a disaster in general all thanks to WWE's mismanagement at the time.

>>19814991

>Russo Marks glazing Russo just for coming back to write for a mudlaw wrestling show started by Fat Clowns in 1999.

And do you understand that Fat Clown format from 1999 is miles above the booking in WWE today?

it'd be cool to revive this thread
what are Russo's biggest misses? what are his goonstrokes of mad genius?

I'm watching JCW every fucking week for 3 months now and this mother fucker always delivers

>>19817472
Bizased. I’m still a few episodes behind. I skip most the wrestling and watch the angles

It will only get better, waiting for bigger names to show up in JCW in due time

>>19815779
Who TF is Craig g