theres nothing effective about his career killer character
>>19835638this board went from sucking off gunt to calling him the worst wrestler in the world
>>19835703Paul's booking is just that bad
He retires people that were retiring anyway. Much wow!
>>19835729Ridge Holland has ended more careers than him, and that got him fired
the problem is that when he was IC champ he was a "heel" but he was barely a bad guy and just went around beating dudes and getting shit done. now he's in the main event scene they're forcing him to do "heel" stuff and it feels awkward because we're already used to him just being some badass dude who wins. + forced push + him losing to jey ruined his presence.
>>19835638>Ripping off Randy Ortons Legend Killer arcGunter is a pastey boring blob man>Herba derba beepin glurbinDont care euroman
>>19835638Yep. Hunter destroyed any chance for him to get over moment he jobbed to Jey Uso at Wrestlemania.
>>19835753>>19836305Yeah HHH straight up character assassinated gunther by tapping out to jey uso. It's not even just that he tapped to jey uso, it's the way it happened, gunther flailed for his life and tapped to jey in under 3 seconds, like it was so fast and bizarre that it's literally unforgivable. The crowd still hasn't let him forget it, and for good reason. It has tainted and ruined his image forever. Every one knows it except paul i guess since he seems to think if he just pushes through it and pretends gunther is some career killing badass it will fix things, but it's simply not happening. He's a joke now.
>>19836414should've just had him take the pin Never heard a YOU GOT PINNED chant
>>19835638The average Joe build is the wost part
>>19835729In kayfabe, AJ wasn't retiring but Cena and Goldberg were. I love how the locker room and management hate Gunther for beating John Cena in a sanctioned match.
>>19836414What if he passed out from the choke instead of tapping out
>>19835638Is the Career Killer gimmick not for Becks?
>>19836426Just anything that's not panic tapping out in under 3 seconds to the weakest pussy on the roster.
>>19835638It's been effective at killing his own career
>>19835709He's completely destroyed Bron in a little over a month, and as soon as Logan signed his full time deal he immediately got started burying him too.
>>19836450Could have worked fine. Bust gunther open or something, have jey try to ceaselessly lock him up over and over as gunther keeps breaking out and smashing him, eventually gunther wears himself out combined with 'blood loss' and passes out as jey locks him up one final time and holds on for dear life for as long as they can drag it out.
>>19836480Paul wants to be the main character. The only one with the stroke to counter him is Roman which is why Roman was the only truly great part of Paul's booking run.
>>19836480The Bron situation might be after his botches and mic work.
>>19835709>>19835753this, I'm not gonna pretend I always disliked the guy and his work but after his IC run it's been pretty bad. I guess you can argue that he's supposed to be a heel and i'm just finna worked but this is a guy who I would tune in for but now I don't care that much
I don't get why they went from him doing choppa to grab spam. I liked his choppa
>>19836624You can either choppa an old guy or retire him. He won't agree to both in the same match.
>>19835753>he was a "heel" but he was barely a bad guy and just went around beating dudes and getting shit done.That port. Those were good times to be a Gunther fan now it's this forced gimmick that has Paul's reverse midas touch hands all over it.
breaking up imperium was a huge mistake
>>19836748Even with how retarded fans are, eventually a main event guy who just decisively cleanly beats everyone is gonna get cheered
>>19836305Mania? I thought it was a random raw. I really don't know but the most interested I ever was in gunther was also simultaneously the most interested I ever was in jey uso (I was new to the yeet thing and it was cool how the entire arena did it, like the yes thing). The minute jey beat him tho, I lost interest in both. Paul. Can't. Book.
>>19835753>but he was barely a bad guy and just went around beating dudes and getting shit done.Also him having Imperium and never actually using them in matches to cheat was good, it was a twist on the usual stable-leader heel trope where he could've called on his lackeys but he was unwilling to and if he lost he just accepted itHe was an asshole but a self-reliant one who took his losses and just moved forward, then trips just put him into the usual mold of a cowardly cheating heel and it doesn't work
>>19836496Too bad it was basically opening match and they're not going to give it fucking time because Punk needs his three-way fucking that night instead to get all the time in the world
>>19835638Yeah he's killing the ratings LMAO
>>19836414>it's the way it happened, gunther flailed for his life and tapped to jey in under 3 seconds, like it was so fast and bizarre that it's literally unforgivable.This is exactly how he lost the NXT UK title to Dragunov, it's a kayfabe weakness of his that was called back to, I think, too much of a coincidence otherwise.
Gunther really needs a better submission finisher
