>give random luchadors and dean malenko 45 minutes of TV time every weekIt's like they wanted people to switch to RawIt's like they wanted people to switch to Raw
kek what a broken record
Never met a stink malenko mark in my life.
They gave them 10 minutes and that was the only shit worth watching before switching to raw
>>19863648It is kinda weird they didn't invest more in the midcard. They had like 200 guys in the roster, easily could have done something with them
>>19863648Hogan, Nash, Jarrett, the Steiners, pretty much the entire cast of WCW main event players for years were all much bigger anti-draws
>>19863676>watch any Hogan/Steiner/Outsiders segment>crowd is loud as fuck>watch any luchabotchfest>crowd is sitting on their hands waiting for it to be over
>random luchadors and dean malenko outdraw HBKKK, Bret Shitman Hart, and Underquaker
Those matches existed so they could do exposition on the nwo storyline.
And then when they did switch to raw they saw the same 4 guys doing the same promo they did they week before and then switched back to nitro.
>>19863648you can say that again
>>19863676>Hogan>Nash>Steiner Bros.All dimes incarnate in WCW.
>>19863660>>19863833popped me
>>19863648the cruiserweights were one of the main reasons nitro succeeded. they're some of the last people you should blame for the decline of the show.
You couldn't be more wrong, the luchadores gave WCW a real "worldwide" feeling and made the rest of the card feel much more important, not to mention their wrestling wasn't half bad either and had some dime magnets like LA Parka.Mind you, we have solid data that validates this, they one of the reasons why WCW could beat WWF for years along with Sting and the rise of Goldberg.
>>19866719this. guys like La Parka, Ultimo Dragon, Rey Mysterio, Chris Benoit, Dean Malenko, Eddie Guerrero and Juventud Guerrera gave Nitro something that was new and different at the time and which Vince could not replicate.
>>19863663My brother and I would imitate his entrance where he clutched his wrists and his strange walk where he dragged his feet. We had some good laughs.
>>19863663Based Hitman.
>>19863648Yeah, people were BEGGING to see the pig farmers vs the bikers
>>19867151Disciples of Undertaker were over with me, brother.
>>19863648Stop talking about a tv program that aired before you were born.
From 96-98 the WCW relied heavily on their midcard to make the card entertaining. They knew Hogan and Piper couldn't complete with Hart and Michaels, but the Godwinns and boricuas couldn't hold a candle to the cruiserweights.
>>19867159The little zoomer retards were raised on WWE narratives and it shows.No matter how cringe WCW might seem in retrospect, WWF was way worse until around 1999. But neither WWE nor the talking heads (who want to stay in the good graces of WWE) ever talk about that for obvious reasons.
>>19866719>>19866728>>19867151>>19867923Lmao they would literally get boring chants and signs that said shit "lucha matches are the piss break". It was viewed with the same scorn that /pw/ views the WWE Women's Revolution. The only cruiserweights who got over long-term for their wrestling were Rey and La Parka. Eddie and Jericho only got over when they turned heel and developed their characters and moved away from having heatless smark bait matches.
>>19863648>I FUCKING HATE WRESTLING WHERE'S THE SOAP OPERA????
>>19867956t. Yankee who wasn't actually a WCW fan while WCW existed.
>>19867992Gay porn is not wrestling buddy.
When I first decided to start watching wrestling full time instead of just sometimes watching it with the family during the early Hogan stuff, I put on WCW and it was Regal vs Alex Wright. After like a minute of that garbage I turned to WWF and was hooked.
>>19868007hey gay retard, it actually is
>>19868056>I hate pro wrestling, but I sure love slop!cool story bro
>>19863648Boring NWO promo with a thousand people in the ring doing nothing. Change the channel. Boring Triple H twenty minute promo. It's like they just wanted you to go do something else
>>19868067Nice wojak derivative
>>19868083sharty has assumed full control of the 'jaks
>>19867956totally incorrect, you are looking at this matter through the lens of someone who is sick of modern flippy shitters. however, this was a completely different animal. even you were able to name four WCW cruiserweights who got over huge. your problem is that you aren't even thinking about what you're watching, you're associating it with unrelated people and things which is why you're way off.
>>19868130I didn't invent the lack of crowd reaction. Go back and watch one of these weekly random 6 man tag matches and tell me how interested the crowd is compared to whatever Hogan/Sting/Flair/The Steiners were doing.
Nitro crowds were loud for pretty much everything that was put in front of them, there's even people jumping up in the air for the finger poke of doom. Faggot brownoids that weren't even alive in the 90s trying to rewrite history is hilarious
>>19868243Just admit you didn't watch back in the day.Some of us don't need to go back and "watch" because we were alive and following it at the time. Everyone loved the lower card shit. Crowds were louder for the top of the card because those were literally the biggest names in pro-wrestling at the time.
Yeah man we were all switching to Nitro so we didn't miss enthralling matchups like Villano XIV & El Dandy against Lizmark Jr and some jabroni named..."Juventud".LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>19868379I mean, yeah, most of us actually were watching WCW - hence the higher ratings.WWF sucked until it didn't.
>>19868379Juvi Juice was loose, you could have picked anyone else but you picked one of the most charismatic cruiserweights of all timeEddieChavoPsicosisUltimo DragonRey ReyFuckin LA PARKANot only that but the fact that you know about Villiano, you definitely know that it was usually Villano 4 teamed with Villano 5. Quit pretending
You watch any nitro from that era and fans would get excited for a good match. WCW fans liked wrestling and athletics. There's a clip out there from the crowd getting hot for a Super Dragon tryout on Nitro
>>198679511996-1998 WCW was miles ahead of WWF at the time. Yes, there was also high-profile garbage, but overall it was fantastic. Including the mid- and undercard. It's a shame they focus on the biggest flaws now. The guaranteed money contracts and the egos on top. But a lot of it was just fucking fantastic.
>>19868801I was just entering high school at the time. I watched pro-wrestling as a kid but was very much at a "this is fake why even bother watching it" stage in my life, particularly in regards to WWF.WCW was what got me into wrestling again. It felt more "real" than what WWF was doing at the time, even if I did know it was scripted. I stuck with it until the end (although I was watching WWF as well around 1999/2000), watched WWF/E for a few years afterwards, then stopped watching entirely because WWE just wasn't really what I got into it to watch.I got back into wrestling again around 2018 but only watch Jap wrestling now.
>>19868243I don't remember a lot of random six-man cruiserweight tags on nitro. that's more like the way tony khan or gedo would have booked it. what I remember is a lot of really good singles matches. a lot of them didn't have much of a storyline but it worked because there was plenty of storytelling in the uppercard. the role of the cruiserweights was to just put on good matches and wow the crowd with things they hadn't seen before. the storylines were mainly carried by the main eventers like the NWO, Sting, The Giant, Savage, Flair, etc. but the cruiserweights had their role and they played it well.
This board shouldn't be allowed to talk about WCW. The Nitro undercard was a big part of the appeal, you retard.
nitro undercards were kino. it was the ppv undercards that were complete dogshit.
>>19869835Prime Nitro was a vibe. Just kino in ways that WWF couldn't touch at the time.I can see where newer viewers might not get that by going back and watching it. But it kicked so much ass watching live, not knowing what was going to happen because absolutely anything could happen.
>>19869075Hey I like Disco and Glacier and Alex Wright too anon. It's just the luchaslop that was ass.
>>19869896Now, sure. But back then that stuff was still fresh because it hadn't oversaturated the US market for over twenty years like it has today.
Dean Malenko matches were based. So was his entrance.
When they got rid of the nitro sign I knew it was over
>>19870149Same, the rebrand was the beginning of the end and somehow I knew it at the time.
>>19863648>give random luchadors and dean malenko 45 minutes of TV time every weekIt's like their core fan base actually cared about the wrestling part of professional wrestling.
>>19869904facts. I got tired of it by 2014/2015ish after watching the indies from 2007 onward
>>19870235After WCW died I think some stuck around for WWE (I did for a few years), but the rest quit watching entirely or got into indy/puroresu stuff.
>>19870248There were 2 million WCW viewers represented in the Nielsen ratings that WWF assumed would just jump ship. Those were mostly the hardcore WCW fans. A few of us, me included, gave WWF a try only to see endless McMahon family promos, the wrestlers we tuned into see get buried, and just watch a company that didn't give a shit about wrestling fumble the Invasion. A good chunk of that 2 million did tune in to TNA when it started up on TV a few years later. Same with RoH.
>>19870352They did WCW so dirty in that Invasion angle. To nobody's shock.I stopped watching around 2003, if I remember correctly. I didn't come back to pro-wrestling until 15 years later.
>>19870248>>19870352WWF niggas always thought they were the center of the world and wrestling should only be done the gay NY soap opera way, weird ass behaviour
>>19870402The ones I don't get are the the people who actively follow what's happening in the business, including up and coming wrestlers, but absolutely refuse to watch them unless they're in a WWE ring.Like, they know the names and are excited to see them in WWE but refuse to even watch them. Then they come to WWE and those fans are disappointed because they assume whatever they're doing in WWE must be better than what they were doing before that, never realizing that WWE basically nerfs the styles that made them popular in the first place.
>>19863648>>19870235That reminds me- it's time to watch some WCW Live on Youtube!
>>19866719>the luchadores gave WCW a real "worldwide" feelingi viewed them as jobbers. none of them talked or did anything interesting. only remember one of them talking and calling himself the juice
>>19870413WWE-only fans have always been like that. they're conditioned to believe that no other wrestling matters. I had a friend in the 90s who was a good example. he would read the wrestling mags and so he knew just a little about the people and happenings in WCW, ECW, and a couple others but wouldn't actually watch any of it. the guy was a massive bret hart mark but he just gave up on wrestling after the montreal screwjob and wouldnt switch over to WCW or anything else. always seemed weird to me that he would remain such a massive WWF mark after his hero got buried so badly.
>>19868421Which was the Villano that Raven and Kanyon broke with the mistimed powerbomb neck breaker combo?
>>19870235flippy shit isn't wrestling
for me it was the team of the patriot and marcus bagwell, STARS AND STRIPES!
>>19863747>HBKKK>Bret Shitman Hart>Underquaker
>>19870413>>19870530wwe is basically a BPD girlfriend, stringing its fans along and brainwashing them into staying with her because of the sex, eventhough every minute with her outside of those moments is torture, but not being able to move on either
>>19872011sounds about right to me, all those e-niggers got stockholm syndrome
>>19868243Why do you keep saying the “Steiner Brothers” kek. Rick Steiner was no where near the top of the card. He was literally lower on the card than most of the Luchadores for most of Nitro’s run. Except for maybe a small slice when Scott was champ at the very end and he would come out with him. Rick wasn’t even as over as other TV champ contenders. Norman doing the big wiggle or Ernest Miller would get bigger pops than Rick, after people stopped barking he was literally a piss break. Pretty much all the Luchadores they would feature were solidly over. Certainly Rey, Juvie, La Parka, Ultimo Dragon and Eddie. Really that’s the majority of them. No one had beef with “flippy shit” and no one tossed around the word “smark” so casually it’s an era you don’t seem to understand. The Smark bait of that era was firmly Russo-shit. Throwing around inside baseball terms and doing worked shoots. That’s what they thought appealed to internet fans who were the Smarks.
>>19872350I remember the Cat getting good reactions on the last few Nitros.
>>19863648>Rey Mysterio>Billy Kidman>Eddie Guerrero>Juventude Guerrera>Chris Jericho>Chris Benoit>Ultimo Dragon>Dean Malenko>Psycosis>La Parka>etcNah WCW cruiserweights were dimes
>>19872350Before Scott ever became a solo star, the Steiner Brothers had red hot tag feuds with teams like Harlem Heat and The Outsiders. And way before the first Nitro against the Freebirds
