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It is the year 0078 of the Universal Century. A half century has passed since the earth began moving its burgeoning population into gigantic orbiting space colonies. A new home for mankind, where people are born and raised… and die.

“We are the people of the universe. We have struggled to survive in a harsh environment, and new generations of colonists testify to our success. Now, when we gaze back at Earth, we see a sacred blue and green orb - the cradle of civilization and a sacred home that we must eternally preserve and protect . . .”
-Zeon Zum Deikun, UC 0058

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16:15, 9th December UC 0077
Zeon Military Academy on Guardian Banchi, Side Three (Republic of Zeon)


Crisp cool air greets you as the hermetic seals of the airlock hiss open. The wrapping blue and green vistas of Guardian Banchi’s cylindrical interior, a quintessential close-type O’Neill colony, stretch out far before you. Mountains and lakes, valleys and forests, the interior of the colony cylinder have been molded carefully to match many of Earth’s environments.

You stand at a secured exit of the colony’s Earth Federation controlled spaceport. All around you are edifices devoted to maintaining that distant government’s control over not only the people of Zeon, or Spacenoids, but all of mankind. White and gray concrete military structures stand interspersed about the small city wrapping around the spaceport’s connection to the colony, a constant reminder not only of the Federation’s political supremacy over what should be Zeon’s truly sovereign territory, but also of the jackbooted force by which they maintain that supremacy.
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>>5980958

The days of the Earth Federation trampling over humanity, the days of it stunting man’s progress into the stars and the expansion of human consciousness, will soon be at an end. You and your sister Artesia would prefer this end come peacefully, but you have aligned yourself with those who would cut a far bloodier path - the warmongering fiends who betrayed and slew your father, the Zabi family, have in the last two years become your closest allies. The relationship between your families, once friends, and then sworn enemies, and now ‘family’, has grown ever more complicated as time has marched on, but they remain the best hope for your family to regain control of and shepherd mankind, and also one of your most dire obstacles.

For now your older brother Casval plays the role of a spirited but loyal puppet of the Zabis, a useful tool, though you know he means none of it - ever has he plotted the deaths of the Zabis, the whole clan save your youngest sister, and he gathers his own power just as you do. A day of reckoning will come, a time when the knives will finally come out and every member of your two intermixed clans will be forced to pick sides - you know which one you will be on, but where the Zabis you care for will fall - Dozle, Garma, and Vivima - is up in the air.

Keep your friends close, but keep your enemies closer. Hmph, a bit trite, but there’s still a wisdom to those tired old words.

Sighing, you shake your head at the sight of more federation soldiers patrolling the exit of the space port, and begin to head down the textured steel steps leading into the occupied city. This city is not your final destination - you are headed to the linear rail station which connects directly to Guardian Military Academy, the premier - though far from only - military academy in all of Zeon. All of the Earth-sphere, if your step-father and superintendent of the academy Dozle Zabi is to be believed. He’s a big boaster, and very loud, but you agree with him on the academy - and his tastes in fencing and ship design as well, the giant Zabi and his love for the truly big have grown on you.
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>>5980959

As you reach the bottom of the stairs, you’re greeted by your sister Artesia. She’s looking quite prim and proper in her well cut green second year cadet’s uniform, blonde hair worn in a tight bun and blue eyes twinkling at the sight of you. She missed you terribly, you can feel the welcoming press of her mind even before words are exchanged. Beside her stands your good friend Blare, one of the sharpest minds at the academy, but a worried look is cast over his soft features; Tiff, his fiery girlfriend and another of your close allies, is not here with him - usually they are inseparable.

“Welcome back, Felix.” Artesia greets you warmly with a hug, which you happily receive. Blare greets you next, with another hug, though much briefer.

“It’s good to be back!” Your smile matches your sister’s, you’ve only been gone for a weekend but with travel to and from other colonies becoming more and more frequent you haven’t seen each other as much as you’d like these last few months - especially with Artesia’s medical training ongoing, “…I rushed home as soon as the news reached Riah - I couldn’t stay away from Zeon at a time like this, not for a whole week. Is it as bad as the reports are saying?”

“It is.” Your sister confirms with a grim nod, her smile dying away, pain held deep in her blue eyes, “Rioting all over Zum city and the rest of the Side, there was even a big fight right outside the palace - Gihren’s really stoked the flames this time… I’m just glad Casval wasn’t there with him to do it. They spend too much time together.”

“Casval might say the same of you and Garma,” You reply, immediately regretting. Artesia understands though, such small missteps are readily forgiven between you, and she knows your concerns as few others can - both a sister and a fellow Newtype, “…I know it’s not the same. What’s the feeling here though? Blood in the water?”

“Everyone’s waiting for it to go hot again, word is that the Federation will be rolling in heavy armor later today.” Blare offers up, entering the discussion now, “They’re getting more aggressive, a junior officer is bound to slip up and panic - with that kind of firepower it’s going to be a bloodbath.”

“Tanks? On protestors? …And I thought Riah was getting its throat stepped on too, but they were just using rubber bullets when I left - had the generals all on edge still.” You speak more quietly as a pair of tan uniformed Federation soldiers patrol past, their visored gaze lingering on your group for a moment longer than you’d like - they surely recognize you, but there is no swarming press of onlookers here, this is a secured area for diplomats and VIPs. The true public areas lies just beyond another perimeter, and you will move quickly to avoid them - you’re very experienced at avoiding unwanted onlookers, years of living a double life have made sure of that.
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>>5980961

“No, not on protestors - they’ll use tanks on ‘violent extremists’ - you should hear the spin the Star is putting on all of this.” Blare shakes his head and sighs, removing his glasses for a moment, “...It will be what it is though, we can’t change what’s already happened, only plan ahead. Where to, Felix? Back to the academy?”

“Yes…” You begin to answer, of course the academy is your destination, but there remains the matter of what you will do once you reach it - time is short at times like these, many pieces are moving about the board and they will not wait for you.

Vote:
>”...To my brother, I’m sure he’s gathered up the class with all this going on - I’m right, aren’t I?” Casval probably has the second and third year cadets organizing into squads and platoons already, you know him too well.

>”...We’re heading to the sim pods, we’ll call in all the others and discuss this together.” As Newtypes, you mean - Casval might show up on his own, he’s a part of that group - but these events must be discussed among those who are most aware of mankind’s coming destiny.

>”...Artesia and I will need to speak with Dozle when we arrive back at the academy, there are family matters to discuss. Blare, you should meet up with my brother. If he has a plan, listen, and help if you can.” Communications have been spotty with Federation interference, and you haven’t gotten word about your wife and children, or your mother, since this latest crisis began. Dozle will know the most of anyone save Vivima.

>Write-in.
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>>5980962

Voting:
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Thread one: https://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive/2022/5414507/
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>>5980962
>”...To my brother, I’m sure he’s gathered up the class with all this going on - I’m right, aren’t I?” Casval probably has the second and third year cadets organizing into squads and platoons already, you know him too well.
Bros before step-bros.
Glad to see you back, you mutant spacenoid. I was two "Please wait a while before posting"s from running a Zeta Quest.
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>>5980966
do it anyways you fuckin coward

>>5980962
>”...To my brother, I’m sure he’s gathered up the class with all this going on - I’m right, aren’t I?” Casval probably has the second and third year cadets organizing into squads and platoons already, you know him too well.
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>>5980962
>”...To my brother, I’m sure he’s gathered up the class with all this going on - I’m right, aren’t I?” Casval probably has the second and third year cadets organizing into squads and platoons already, you know him too well.
We are so back bros!
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>>5980962
>>”...We’re heading to the sim pods, we’ll call in all the others and discuss this together.” As Newtypes, you mean - Casval might show up on his own, he’s a part of that group - but these events must be discussed among those who are most aware of mankind’s coming destiny.
Sweet!
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Some book keeping stuff: I just realized there is a typo in the OP, it should be UC 0077 for both dates given. I was considering setting things in January of 78 but went for a short time skip instead.

Assume things have been going largely according to plan with gathering up newtypes/pilot, working on Tryphosa's sisters, and guiding/growing Riah's Mobile Suit corps (which is helping lay the groundwork for Felix running his own Newtype MS corps back in Zeon, probably with pilots pulled from both Sides). Character relationships are largely the same, just more time has passed. Elena is off at Zeonic working as an engineer now and your kids are usually either with her or your mother in Zum city; your residence on Luna is usually left empty now and is being used by Kycilia as something of a spy nest - bit of a sad loss, but it isn't truly gone.
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>>5980997
shorter*
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>>5980962
>”...We’re heading to the sim pods, we’ll call in all the others and discuss this together.” As Newtypes, you mean - Casval might show up on his own, he’s a part of that group - but these events must be discussed among those who are most aware of mankind’s coming destiny.

Holy shit welcome back Contolist. Jump scared me with that qtg post.
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>>5980962
>”...We’re heading to the sim pods, we’ll call in all the others and discuss this together.” As Newtypes, you mean - Casval might show up on his own, he’s a part of that group - but these events must be discussed among those who are most aware of mankind’s coming destiny.

Good to see you again Contolist!


Anyways, we should gather our group together and prepare ourselves in ways that only newtypes can.
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>>5980962
>>”...To my brother, I’m sure he’s gathered up the class with all this going on - I’m right, aren’t I?” Casval probably has the second and third year cadets organizing into squads and platoons already, you know him too well.
Hell yeah, I love this quest. Glad to see it back.
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>>5980962
>”...Artesia and I will need to speak with Dozle when we arrive back at the academy, there are family matters to discuss. Blare, you should meet up with my brother. If he has a plan, listen, and help if you can.” Communications have been spotty with Federation interference, and you haven’t gotten word about your wife and children, or your mother, since this latest crisis began. Dozle will know the most of anyone save Vivima.

WELCOME BACK CONTOLIST
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>>5980958
HEY ITS BACK.

You've been missed.
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>>5980962
>>”...To my brother, I’m sure he’s gathered up the class with all this going on - I’m right, aren’t I?” Casval probably has the second and third year cadets organizing into squads and platoons already, you know him too well.
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Voting will be open until the morning, I think I'll have time to write around lunch. It's good to be back!
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>>5980962
>>”...We’re heading to the sim pods, we’ll call in all the others and discuss this together.” As Newtypes, you mean - Casval might show up on his own, he’s a part of that group - but these events must be discussed among those who are most aware of mankind’s coming destiny.
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One hour until voting closes.
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>>5980966
>>5980971
>>5980987
>>5981029
>>5981113
To Casval.

>>5981273
>>5981015
>>5981002
>>5980990
Sim pods.

>>5981041
Dozle.

Going straight to Casval wins, writing.
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“Yes, back to the academy, and to my brother. I’m sure he’s gathered up the class already with all this going on,” You reply to Blare and begin the walk toward the nearby rail station, “I’m right, aren’t I?”

Blare nods, “He’s held a few meetings, all the break rooms were packed before I got sent out here to watch Federation deployments. Exercises and classes were canceled, so there’s not much to do except watch the news, the little we get, and try to find out more… Do you think this will turn into something larger, Felix?”

“Larger?” You let the word hang in the air for a moment, silence falling around the three of you as you keep walking across the concrete sidewalk toward the glass and steel structure of the rail station. Waving to the Federation guards posted near its front, you’re waved through immediately - everyone knows who you and Artesia are, even in your cadet uniforms. As soon as you’re past the guards, the talk begins again.

“A real conflict, not just riots and skirmishes with security forces.” Blare clarifies, though of course you knew what he meant - some things are best left unsaid near Federation soldiers though.

War.” Artesia frowns, always one to prefer peace, as you reach the platform and wait for the next train to arrive. It won’t take long, usually never more than a minute or two. “We’re not ready for it. …What a nightmare.”

“We’re more prepared now than we’ve ever been,” You cross your arms as the boxy white train slides smoothly to a stop, large plate glass windows revealing the almost totally empty interiors of its simple cars - not many riders at a time like this, “...But let’s hope it doesn’t come to that. We can’t let them roll over our people though.”

The train doors hiss open, and you step aboard - the three of you choose to stand despite the many empty seats, simply gripping onto the vertical steel poles within. Another hiss and the doors seal shut, and then a moment later there is a slight jolt as the train moves out of the station. The brick and plaster buildings of the city blur past as the train gains speed, a few of the taller Federation barracks and command posts interspersed here and there - soon you’re out and into the green of the colony, passing hills and forests on your way to the academy grounds.

“Unless you know something I don’t, ‘more prepared’ doesn’t change the balance of power nearly far enough, even with Riah. The Federation must know that.” Blare’s blue eyes flick between you and Artesia, taking in your reactions carefully, “...Is there something else, Felix?”
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>>5981520

“...No, nothing that’s ready yet.” You grimace at the thought of what might come soon, an early war would be a disaster, even with a few thousand mobile suits prepared there aren’t enough skilled pilots to man them or ships to deploy from - and a purely nuclear exchange would only invite hell to the Sides, not liberation from Earth, “We have enough strength to make a bloody fight of it, and Federation politicians don’t have the stomach for those kinds of risks - they’re still reorganizing their command, and the fleet is scattered piecemeal, it would be a mess.”

“Casval said something about that too, that it might be a good chance to act while the Federation is flat-footed.” Artesia’s gaze is locked firmly on the hills and forests passing by outside the train’s large plate glass windows, her back turned to you and Blare, “He’s talked with Garma about it too.”

“And Vivima?” You question, more concerned about the craftier of the two young Zabis - Garma’s kept in check by Artesia, and despite occasional flare ups of Zabi arrogance and a lingering need to prove himself to his despicable elders, he is one of the few you mostly trust. Vivima, though a friend, even a close friend, as strange as that is to think, is far more dangerous in this kind of tense political atmosphere.

“She’s been with Tryphosa through all of this, they’re both still here… somewhere. I haven’t had a chance to talk with either of them, but I’m sure Viv isn’t happy with the Federation jamming communications.” Artesia grins ever so slightly at what must be the understatement of the decade - Vivima and cut communications go together about as well as Gihren and Earth day.

“...I saw some of that on the flight in, there was a cruiser sitting right over the colony’s main laser receiver, and troop and cargo ships docking - lots of them.” You recall the blue hulled warship loitering just above the main comms array, not only jamming radio signals but also physically blocking laser communications. “There still must be something getting through though. It’s like this everywhere?”

Blare shrugs slightly, “We cannot know for sure, but I would wager it is. They have the hulls for it but not enough boots to set down in every colony. They’re willing to spread out their ships, but they’re mustering forces here - I think they’re going to Zum soon, maybe in a few days, there’s more arriving all the time. If nothing else comes of this, I’m sure they will have to cycle back to Luna II. Most of the Feddies I’ve seen dock here aren’t well organized - they’re just piling them in at the barracks by the spaceport, that base has to be close to capacity…"
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>>5981522

The rest of the train ride goes by without much in the way of important conversation, just a bit of idle chatter between you and Artesia - worries about Elena and your mother, and all the children, and the state of the wider crisis Gihren has stoked, but it comes to little. Neither of you know enough to do more than speculate and worry - It’s comforting to be with your sister again though.

When the train comes to a stop, the doors part and you step out onto the platform to find several cadets already waiting for you, a number of whom appear to be concealing handguns beneath their uniforms - you’ve got sharp enough eyes to immediately pick out the slight printing patterns under the stiff green material. A tall woman with long dark hair, right up to the very edge of regulation length, leads them. You know her at once; Izumi Fuchs. Behind her, almost blocked from sight by the other taller cadets and forced to push his way through the crowd with wide hands, stand your stocky red haired friend Rix. Greetings are exchanged quickly, as a Federation patrol is already on its way over to the small crowd gathered at the station.

“Move it along, ya Zeeks!” One of the tan uniformed soldiers shouts. He and his fellow Feddies are in full battle rattle, vests and helmets, plenty of magazines to spare, and bullpup rifles slung over their shoulders, “No gathering in public areas during a state of emergency! Go on, get! Damned Spacenoid trash, haven’t you seen the news?”

Not looking to start a fight here, you take your enlarged group out and away from the station and along the white footpaths leading across Guardian Academy’s garden-like grounds. A few of the other cadets with you shout back taunts and jeers at the Feddie guards, but there’s intent to follow through with any of it right now.

“Izumi,” You address the tall cadet directly, trusting she’ll have an excellent grip of the situation, “Where is Casval at? One of the break rooms?”

“Break room three… some of the others have started calling it ‘little Zeon’ already.” Izumi replies quite seriously, though with the faintest of grins gracing her fine features, “He sent us to fetch you, in case you tried running off to the pods.”

“I had considered it, but this is an all hands on deck kind of situation.” You reply while continuing the walk toward the main Academy building, passing by the ground’s large pond and the statue of your father you have spent so much time with in the past, “He’s getting ready to act?”
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>>5981524

I am, and the game is already on - there’s no decisions left to be made. Those animals back there feel it in the air too, the tension, the fear - their fear. They know what happens when you press something dangerous into a corner like this.” Izumi takes a quiet joy in times like this, she lives for competition and tension, though you know her well enough to understand she isn’t a true warmonger - just an exceedingly capable, cunning, and enthusiastic hunter.

“...Pessimistic outlook.” Artesia mutters to herself.

“Aye, bit it’s a real yin, isn’t it?” Rix growls out from nearby, tromping along a bit faster to keep up with everyone else, “‘Tis whit we've bin training fur.”

A few minutes later and you’re inside the main building of the academy, and within the dimly lit interior of break room three, ‘little Zeon’. It’s usually used as a film room, rows of chairs set up more like a cinema than a place to relax and chat, but instead of entertainment the projector atop the ceiling is displaying a live feed of rioting on Zum. It cuts away occasionally to show Federation warships holding positions close to the entrances of the capital colony’s primary spaceport.

Casval is sitting beside Garma, though other cadets are spread about here and there in the room, watching the news in silence. You and Artesia take a seat beside your brother. The rest of the cadets who escorted you here file out of the room, led by Izumi and Rix. Blare goes with them, and you just barely catch sight of him getting tackle-hugged by Tiff out in the hall before the door is shut and the dim half-dark of the room returns.

”...At least fifty eight are confirmed dead after the latest clash between Federation security forces and armed separatist protestors on Zum…” A newswoman’s disembodied voice narrates the scenes of violence as they flicker past on the screen, speaking far too calmly for what is being displayed. Burning buildings, lines of protestors crashing into soldiers and police in riot gear, armored cars with pressure hoses spraying down dozens of men at a time, and even exchanges of gunfire between a few Federation soldiers and a distant hotel that looks to have been shelled already.

>”So what’s the plan, Cas?” Casval is the eldest, defer. This is a crisis you need to act as one to address, no bickering - give him your support.
>”...If they keep their ships that close with traffic still moving through, there’s going to be a collision.” You’ve got a pilot’s eye, and those are very, very badly cluttered docking paths outside of Zum. It’s a disaster waiting to unfold.
>”The situation wasn’t too different in Riah when I left, not quite as many Feddies yet but it was moving that way.” Catch Garma and your brother up on the state of your tenuous allies on Side Six.
>Write-in.
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>>5981526
>”So what’s the plan, Cas?” Casval is the eldest, defer. This is a crisis you need to act as one to address, no bickering - give him your support.
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>>5981526
>”The situation wasn’t too different in Riah when I left, not quite as many Feddies yet but it was moving that way.” Catch Garma and your brother up on the state of your tenuous allies on Side Six.
The Titans were completely right, if anyone in the Federation had the balls to deploy nerve gas on and vent rebellious banchi, none of these problems would be happening.
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>>5981526
>”So what’s the plan, Cas?” Casval is the eldest, defer. This is a crisis you need to act as one to address, no bickering - give him your support.
>”The situation wasn’t too different in Riah when I left, not quite as many Feddies yet but it was moving that way.” Catch Garma and your brother up on the state of your tenuous allies on Side Six.
Give them info then let's see what the plan is.
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>>5981526
1.
>”The situation wasn’t too different in Riah when I left, not quite as many Feddies yet but it was moving that way.” Catch Garma and your brother up on the state of your tenuous allies on Side Six
>”So what’s the plan, Cas?” Casval is the eldest, defer. This is a crisis you need to act as one to address, no bickering - give him your support.
2.
>”So what’s the plan, Cas?” Casval is the eldest, defer. This is a crisis you need to act as one to address, no bickering - give him your support.
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>>5981526
>>5981546
Supporting. Based Titans enjoyer.
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>>5981526
>>”The situation wasn’t too different in Riah when I left, not quite as many Feddies yet but it was moving that way.” Catch Garma and your brother up on the state of your tenuous allies on Side Six.
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>>5981526
Supporting >>5981549. This is not the time to withhold information from our siblings.
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>>5981526
>>5981549
+1

>>5981546
>The Titans were completely right
Cringe.
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>>5981526
>”So what’s the plan, Cas?” Casval is the eldest, defer. This is a crisis you need to act as one to address, no bickering - give him your support.
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One hour until voting closes.
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>>5981613
>Cringe
Cope more colonigger, everything the zeeks did before them justified their existence and everything the zeeks did after them vindicated them.
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>>5981666
If your gonna be a titan fag, Why partake?
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>>5981526
>”The situation wasn’t too different in Riah when I left, not quite as many Feddies yet but it was moving that way.” Catch Garma and your brother up on the state of your tenuous allies on Side Six.
>”So what’s the plan, Cas?” Casval is the eldest, defer. This is a crisis you need to act as one to address, no bickering - give him your support.
Great to have you back Contolist. What happened anyway, life come at ya hard?
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>>5981671
Because it's a good and fun Gundam Quest and because everything after CCA proved Gihren right.
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>>5981666
Spacenoids will forever mog you with newtype powers, seethe more titanfag.
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>>5981526
>”The situation wasn’t too different in Riah when I left, not quite as many Feddies yet but it was moving that way.” Catch Garma and your brother up on the state of your tenuous allies on Side Six.
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>>5981527
>>5981641
Defer.

>>5981546
>>5981565
>>5981683
>>5981575
Riah.

>>5981549
>>5981561
>>5981584
>>5981613
>>5981672
Riah+Defer. Wins, writing.

>>5981672
>what happened
A nasty mix of burnout and life getting much busier for a few months, but things have settled back down now. I missed writing the quest, it's good to be back at it again.
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>>5981686
Glad to hear it amigo. Lets take it easy so we avoid that burnout in the future. And I hope life takes a break from throwing haymakers your way for the foreseeable (though if you have some socials to follow just in case...)
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“The situation wasn’t too different in Riah when I left,” You speak quietly within the dim room, watching the images of protests riots play across the screen - It’s all coverage from Federation sources, probably the only thing they’re allowing to be piped into the colony with communications being locked down so tightly, “Not quite as many Feddies yet, but it was moving that way - and they weren’t policing communications like this.”

You gesture toward the screen with one hand, and ponder for a moment just how much of a greater mess the Federation has created by trying to clamp down so tightly - this is almost unprecedented, it’s bound to only provoke further riots and attacks. Can’t be popular on Earth either, not that people there really have much of a say - everything is crooked and rigged.

“What was the atmosphere like in Riah, brother?” Casval asks calmly, watching the screen intently just as you are - those are your people clashing with Federation soldiers and riot police, and not in some unfamiliar place but on the very streets of Zum. You recognize some of the more prominent buildings in the background, even catching glimpses of the distant and menacing palace at times.

“Tense.” You give the only answer you have - there’s no other word for it, “The generals placed portions of Riah’s reserves on stand-by notice, and mobile suit training was stopped so the pilots could prepare. A hundred suits wouldn’t do much across a whole Side though.”

“They’re preparing for war then? Over this?” Garma asks, half shocked by the news and turning to face you, the light from the screen playing across his soft features. He and Vivima really do favor one another in some light, their late mother shines through them far more clearly than Degwin ever has.

“Some are, but they know even together we’d lose as things stand. What they were doing when I left was preparing for a final stand before Earth’s boot crushes their neck.” You shake your head, disgusted by the reality of it - even with vastly increased ship and mobile suit production, both shepherded along by Dozle and Vivima, Zeon and Riah need more time to build up forces - not nearly enough men or machines are ready, “Ever since they put down those Federation loyalists months ago, the ones Ramba helped to clean up, some of Riah’s high command have felt they were living on borrowed time. They’re mistaken, of course, but I can hardly blame them. ...They won’t move unless we do, or the Federation forces their hand and hard.”
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>>5981760

“That’s reassuring,” You brother’s eyes focus upon the face of a Federation official speaking on the screen - no one of great importance, just another late middle aged suit like so many of the other Earthnoid bureaucratic class that are so heavily entrenched in the Federation’s government, “They’re still predictable then, I was worrying some of them might have grown a spine. Hopefully they will before a real war starts.”

“Those that have them have brains as well, thankfully.” You chuckle, “I’d worry more that the Federation might have found some backbone instead, this crackdown seems worse than the others - The worst in years.”

“It’s all awful, none of it should be happening.” Artesia huffs unhappily in agreement as casualties figures scroll across the screen, growing ever more dire each time the news shows them, “Look at all those people… It’s madness to fight like this, we were getting so much already through the talks down on Earth.”

“It’s Gihren.” Garma replies a little too casually, too used to his family causing these kinds of crises, “The negotiations in Geneva were stalling. He does it all for Zeon - He knows things like this will happen. ‘It speeds up our people’s destiny,’ that’s what he’d say if he were here. …I don’t like how it looks either though, Artesia, but what’s the alternative, let them trample us forever? We’re a proud people, we can only take so much.”

“Pride can only be swallowed for so long before one is forced to act,” Casval agrees ominously, though Garma misses the weight of the words, “And the Federation could have chosen to respond less harshly - this just shows again what we all knew, they’re here to occupy Zeon, not protect it. There’s disagreement on Earth about how to do it, but the more heavy handed just need an excuse to show their true colors as tyrants.”

“...So what’s the plan then, Cas?” You ask, unsure of the direction your brother intends to take all of this, “I saw you’ve both been getting the class organized into units - Izumi had a gun on her, so did some of the others.”

“Ah, you saw that, did you?” Casval turns to face you, a mischievous grin appearing slowly, “It was my idea, things are moving fast and I wanted to keep ahead of events. We have men posted at the armories and the vehicle depot, Garma saw to that, in case the Feddies come knocking and ask for all of it - that can leave with our bullets, hahaha.”

“I made sure they knew they had the support of the Zabi clan.” Garma puffs up a little at the mention of his family - of your family, legally speaking, though in truth you’ve still not gotten used to that. His confidence fades quickly though, and he tugs a bit at his collar as he speaks further, “Uh… Dozle doesn't know though, he’s been in meetings with Federation officers all day - lots of shouting.”
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>>5981763

“Sounds like Dozle.” You snort, know the big man’s fighting his own battle for Zeon, even if he has all the political subtlety and grace of a gorilla in plate armor rampaging through a particularly delicate china shop, “So we… watch and wait?”

“There was some talk that we might get deployed under Federation control. Technically under their control, at least.” Casval mentions offhandedly, as if it barely matters, but your eyes widen at the news - that would change everything, emergency activation would force some hard decisions political and fast. Degwin wouldn’t see two of his children and… they others added to his family moved about like pawns. And when the old prune moves, Zeon does - Gihren might sway the masses, but he is not yet fully in control of the Side.

“That’s a dangerous plan.” You reply, your nose wrinkled up in disgust at the idea of being commanded by whichever Federation officers commanded this crackdown, “The Federation doesn’t have the guts for that kind of move, they know Degwin would step in - and they we’d refuse regardless.”

“Did I sound worried?” Casval laughs, “We’d be pilots probably, if they have any sense left, not manning water cannons. Everyone here has basic piloting certification now, and a lot of traffic has been interrupted with workers on strike.”

“...Well, that’s not so bad then.” You fold your arms, considering the tedious but important work such relief efforts would be. That’s the kind of emergency measure you could actually support, working to keep the lights on for people who need it and ensure vital shipments still move about the Side while everything is so chaotic. It would be better to be activated by Zeon’s defense forces though, not the federation which controls them mostly on paper at this point, “...And I haven’t had a chance to fly a shuttle in a while.”

“Been sneaking off too much to fly Zakus in Riah, eh?” Your brother asks, “You should send me one of these weekends instead, the pods aren’t half as fun.”
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>>5981766

You have been getting in lots of hours of flight time on Riah’s somewhat outdated Zaku I’s, though you know Casval - and Vivima for that matter - have developed quite a habit of flying their personal guard’s Royal Guard variant Zaku whenever they have the spare time. You have all improved, but the two of them remain just slightly ahead of you - You win a little less than half the time in the sim pods, but it’s a close fight now and on some days you come out ahead more than not. Not most days though. You suspect in a real battle your newtype senses would be more helpful, but they do far less in a simulation. Vivima, to your relief, still has not awakened despite many hours spent with Tryphosa and her sisters - but you have felt Viv teetering on the precipice of something for months now.

“After this is all over, brother…” You’d like to see him flying in Riah with you, Artesia as well - all of your Newtypes in fact, if you could manage it, but only family and perhaps Tryphosa are a realistic goal for now.

Felix will have a radio capable of mundane communications in all of these options, even just staying to watch the news.
>”But for now I suppose all we can do is wait. It sounds like you have things prepared.” Watch the news feed with your family, maybe there is something to be gleaned even through the Federation’s propagandistic spin. You’ll all be together if something happens.
>”But for now I think I need to find Tryphosa, just a feeling I’ve got. I’ll be back soon.” It won’t be hard to locate your bond, a few thoughts sent out across the colony and you should be pulled right to her… And Vivima.
>”But for now I need to speak with Dozle, he might have heard more about mother, or Elena.” The big Zabi’s a father as well, you’ve both grown closer because of it over the last half year; he’ll tell you everything he knows.
>Write-in.
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>>5981768
>”But for now I think I need to find Tryphosa, just a feeling I’ve got. I’ll be back soon.” It won’t be hard to locate your bond, a few thoughts sent out across the colony and you should be pulled right to her… And Vivima.
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>>5981768
>Felix will have a radio capable of mundane communications in all of these options, even just staying to watch the news.
Have the Feds not figured out Minovsky Scattering yet? Or are they just not using it for their own sake?

>”But for now I need to speak with Dozle, he might have heard more about mother, or Elena.” The big Zabi’s a father as well, you’ve both grown closer because of it over the last half year; he’ll tell you everything he knows.
We might get to hear more about what the Federations actual goals and next steps are by going to Dozle.
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>>5981768
>”But for now I think I need to find Tryphosa, just a feeling I’ve got. I’ll be back soon.” It won’t be hard to locate your bond, a few thoughts sent out across the colony and you should be pulled right to her… And Vivima.

Time to find the one we need.
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>>5981773
>Minovsky scattering
They have figured it out and adopted the practice, but haven't really adjusted their doctrine or platforms to account for it yet outside of updated ship reactors. Felix would probably suspect they're doing some of it to help jam up communications, but he doesn't know for sure.

>>5981781
>the one you need
Aww, that's a sweet thing to say about Vivima, anon.
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>>5981783
NO, I AM ON TEAM TRYPHOSA. NOT VIVIMA.

i'll NEVER betray our true love.
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>>5981768
>>”But for now I suppose all we can do is wait. It sounds like you have things prepared.” Watch the news feed with your family, maybe there is something to be gleaned even through the Federation’s propagandistic spin. You’ll all be together if something happens.
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>>5981768
>”But for now I need to speak with Dozle, he might have heard more about mother, or Elena.” The big Zabi’s a father as well, you’ve both grown closer because of it over the last half year; he’ll tell you everything he knows.
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>>5981768
>>”But for now I need to speak with Dozle, he might have heard more about mother, or Elena.” The big Zabi’s a father as well, you’ve both grown closer because of it over the last half year; he’ll tell you everything he knows.
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>>5981768
>”But for now I think I need to find Tryphosa, just a feeling I’ve got. I’ll be back soon.” It won’t be hard to locate your bond, a few thoughts sent out across the colony and you should be pulled right to her… And Vivima.

>>5981794
>i'll NEVER betray our true love.
Elena?
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>>5981768
>”But for now I think I need to find Tryphosa, just a feeling I’ve got. I’ll be back soon.” It won’t be hard to locate your bond, a few thoughts sent out across the colony and you should be pulled right to her… And Vivima.
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Speaking of Minovsky, what's his status?

>>5981768
>>5981849
I'll change my vote to
>”But for now I need to speak with Dozle, he might have heard more about mother, or Elena.” The big Zabi’s a father as well, you’ve both grown closer because of it over the last half year; he’ll tell you everything he knows.
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>>5981973
>Speaking of Minovsky, what's his status?
Likely getting tortured by Kycilia or house arrest. Shame we haven't been able to talk with him yet.
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>>5981768
1.
>”But for now I need to speak with Dozle, he might have heard more about mother, or Elena.” The big Zabi’s a father as well, you’ve both grown closer because of it over the last half year; he’ll tell you everything he knows.
Big Zams and Dadzle seems good about now.
2.
>”But for now I suppose all we can do is wait. It sounds like you have things prepared.” Watch the news feed with your family, maybe there is something to be gleaned even through the Federation’s propagandistic spin. You’ll all be together if something happens.
Also good to talk with Cas more.
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Voting will remain open until the morning.

>>5981974
>>5981973
Minovsky is currently a prisoner of the Zabis and alternating between working on projects for Zeonic and the Flanagan Institute. Elena sees Minovsky on an almost daily basis as part of Project K, he's the senior expert working on the new reactor design among other things. They get along well, and Minovsky is a good mentor, but he is absolutely miserable being forced to work as he is and gets a little less productive every day - the job is very slowly grinding him down. Or alternatively his soul was consumed by Kycilia's hair and a zombie-Minovsky now labors for the Zabis for all eternity. Felix has never met Minovsky, he spends his visits to Zeonic largely with Elena, Max, and Luna (or Vivima, she goes on production inspections somewhat regularly).

If you want short updates about any character, just ask. There's a lot of mundane stuff that happens in six months but almost all of it is just a continuation of trends that were set in the previous threads.
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>>5981768
>”But for now I need to speak with Dozle, he might have heard more about mother, or Elena.” The big Zabi’s a father as well, you’ve both grown closer because of it over the last half year; he’ll tell you everything he knows.
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One hour until voting closes.
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>>5981772
>>5981781
>>5981912
>>5981957
Tryphosa.

>>5981773
>>5981857
>>5981882
>>5981973
>>5981976
>>5982157
BIG DOZLE. Wins, writing.
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Beyond the important family matters, isn't this a good time to sway Dozle away from the Gihren axis permanently? Hes not a fool, he can see how much suffering this is bringing down on Zeon, endangering our family and others. And surely as a military man he can appreciate how much of a liability his brother is, bringing us so close to war when we aren't prepared. We should take this opportunity to drive the wedge in fully.
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“But for now I need to speak with Dozle,” You continue, though it looks as if Casval expected that. His slight grin turns a shade more smug, though not in a bad way, he pulls it off, “He might have heard more about mother, or Elena and the kids.”

“Ever the family man, Felix.” Your brother chuckles lightly, but flashing images of explosions playing across the screen dampen his levity somewhat, “Bring back news. Mother should be safe at the palace but it’s better to be sure about these things, isn’t it?”

“So it is.” You agree with him, standing up from your seat before stopping to ask a further question to your three family members, “None of you have spoken with Dozle about what’s going on?”

“We thought it might be best to leave him out of our preparations for now, better to ask forgiveness than permission.” Garma says with a laugh, your brother giving the slightest nod of agreement and raising his drink a little. “...I did speak with him earlier, but he was shouting about Federation officers and meetings, you know how he gets sometimes.”

Loud.” Artesia suppresses a laugh as she stands, “He cares though. Felix, I’ll come too. I can’t stand to see any more of this news.”

“He might not have anything better to say.” You warn her, but of course she must already know that; even among Newtypes, you’ve always felt Artesia to be particularly empathetic, and the scenes of destruction playing out across the screen unsettle her. It projects out from her, a ghostly tension a step removed from horror and fear, forcing her to turn cold. She hates it, and wants an escape.

“I’d rather hear it than see it.” Artesia sighs before turning back and leaning down for a moment to give Garma a quick kiss - which you are still not used to seeing, but less uncomfortable than things between Dozle and your mother. Ugh, Zabis. …It’s still sweet though, they’ve been good for each other. “I’ll be back later, Garma.”

Garma takes a moment to reboot, blinking and blushing and smiling like the softhearted dope you know him to be under a childhood’s worth of Zabi upbringing. Eventually he manages to speak, fumbling for something in one of his pockets, retrieving a small radio after a moment, “Here, take one - In case something happens.”

“Good idea.” Artesia takes the radio and immediately hands it off to you, which you then pocket, “We’ll keep together.”
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>>5982322

With a few more parting words you’re both off, heading through the halls of the academy toward Dozle’s office. Oil paintings line the walls in this section, all of great battles and generals from history. Soon you have reached the great wooden doors of the office. Muffled shouting sounds from behind the doors, and after exchanging glances with your sister you both press closer to listen in. You’ve been in this position many times before, eavesdropping through a door - it almost makes you feel like a kid again.

“-A CRUISER CRASHED? JUST NOW?!” Dozle’s rumbles clearly even through the thick door. He’s probably shouting into his phone again, “FEDERATION FOOLS, THEY KNEW THIS COULD HAPPEN - IS A THERE A BREACH? …No? WHY DIDN’T YOU START WITH THAT?”

Your eyes widen as you hear the big man’s words - a crash and asking about a breach means something large must have hit a colony. Meeting Artesia’s worried gaze, you understand her perfectly - she intends to enter the room now, as do you. Pushing the doors open together, one on each, you find Dozle standing and leaning over his desk shouting down into a phone exactly as you’d expected. His broad, scarred face looks up to you, frustration and anger etched deep across it.

“...The AGRICULTURE section? You made it sound like it struck a habitation zone! …All hands then? Mm, those fools were playing with fire. How’s ours? Hm, I see.” Dozle’s thundering dies down after your unexpected entrance, but he looks no happier, “...Not enough pilots, eh? Well, we have plenty here. I’ll give the order before those tan dogs do. …Yes, we’ll speak later.”

“What happened?” You ask in unison with your sister as soon as Dozle has hung up the phone, “A crash?”

Standing back to his full height, arms crossed, Dozle delivers the news, “A Federation ship crashed into one of the farming Banchi near Zum, it collided with one of our unactivated Musais.”

“One of their cruisers rammed one of ours?” Artesia gasps, “How bad was it?”

“All hands lost on the Federation ship, the Musai lost an engine…” Dozle shakes his head, fists clenching tight, “Your class is going to be activated for emergency service. I’ll give the order in an hour… I doubt this will be the last collision.”

“We’d be glad to help our people, sir.” You adopt a little more formality at the mention of activation, but it isn’t really necessary, “...But we were coming to ask about mother, and Elena, and the kids. Have you gotten word from them?”
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>>5982325

Dozle nods, “I did earlier. Astraea and Mineva are safe in the palace, Glemy as well. Elena and your twins are at Zeonic still - the Federation hasn’t set a single pair of boots on any of their factory Banchi. If only we could manage that everywhere…”

“Kycilia’s work, I’m sure. That’s a relief then.” Artesia comments without surprise, seeming to grasp things as soon as the words leave the big man’s mouth, and Dozle grunts loudly in confirmation.

You echo the sentiment, a wave of calm washing over you at the confirmation of the safety of your family, especially your children. Whenever anything happens these days you find yourself worrying for them. It’s hard to be gone from them so often, especially in this political atmosphere - even when they’re ‘safe’, you know many threats still remain.

>”So you have a line open still? I thought the Federation was blocking everything.” He must have to have been on the phone like that.
>”If we’re going to be activated then we’ll be working disaster relief, right? We could take out pods and some of the Mobile Workers to clear debris.” You happen to have a great deal of experience with both.
>”...Any word from the rest of the brass on everything that’s been going on? I just got back from Riah, the generals were all spooked by the intensity of the crackdown… The Feddies are overplaying their hand, Dozle, but we’re not ready for a fight yet either.” If this was baited by Gihren, he’s done it masterfully - with a big ship collision added to the news, and probably a spike in food prices for some Banchi, support for independence will only become fiercer.
>Write-in.
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>>5982329
>”...Any word from the rest of the brass on everything that’s been going on? I just got back from Riah, the generals were all spooked by the intensity of the crackdown… The Feddies are overplaying their hand, Dozle, but we’re not ready for a fight yet either.” If this was baited by Gihren, he’s done it masterfully - with a big ship collision added to the news, and probably a spike in food prices for some Banchi, support for independence will only become fiercer.
Guessing this is the option that'll lead to putting a wedge between Dadzle and Geyhren
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>>5982329
>”...Any word from the rest of the brass on everything that’s been going on? I just got back from Riah, the generals were all spooked by the intensity of the crackdown… The Feddies are overplaying their hand, Dozle, but we’re not ready for a fight yet either.” If this was baited by Gihren, he’s done it masterfully - with a big ship collision added to the news, and probably a spike in food prices for some Banchi, support for independence will only become fiercer.
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>>5982329
>”If we’re going to be activated then we’ll be working disaster relief, right? We could take out pods and some of the Mobile Workers to clear debris.” You happen to have a great deal of experience with both.
>”...Any word from the rest of the brass on everything that’s been going on? I just got back from Riah, the generals were all spooked by the intensity of the crackdown… The Feddies are overplaying their hand, Dozle, but we’re not ready for a fight yet either.” If this was baited by Gihren, he’s done it masterfully - with a big ship collision added to the news, and probably a spike in food prices for some Banchi, support for independence will only become fiercer.
Mixing these two options is probably best. We don't gain much by fretting over Elena and the twins at the current moment since they're arguably the safest right now. Catching Dadzle up on the situation in Riah and driving the wedge between him and Ghiren, goes hand in hand emphasizing that we should focus on disaster relief rather than a direct response to the Feddies.
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>>5981996
What's going on with Ramba? Is he still in Riah?

>>5982329
>”So you have a line open still? I thought the Federation was blocking everything.” He must have to have been on the phone like that.
>”...Any word from the rest of the brass on everything that’s been going on? I just got back from Riah, the generals were all spooked by the intensity of the crackdown… The Feddies are overplaying their hand, Dozle, but we’re not ready for a fight yet either.” If this was baited by Gihren, he’s done it masterfully - with a big ship collision added to the news, and probably a spike in food prices for some Banchi, support for independence will only become fiercer.
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>”...Any word from the rest of the brass on everything that’s been going on? I just got back from Riah, the generals were all spooked by the intensity of the crackdown… The Feddies are overplaying their hand, Dozle, but we’re not ready for a fight yet either.” If this was baited by Gihren, he’s done it masterfully - with a big ship collision added to the news, and probably a spike in food prices for some Banchi, support for independence will only become fiercer.
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>>5981996
>spoiler
I'm surprised Kycilia's hair hasn't zombified anyone else. Truly an emergency that surpasses the OYW.
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>>5982329
>”So you have a line open still? I thought the Federation was blocking everything.” He must have to have been on the phone like that.
>”...Any word from the rest of the brass on everything that’s been going on? I just got back from Riah, the generals were all spooked by the intensity of the crackdown… The Feddies are overplaying their hand, Dozle, but we’re not ready for a fight yet either.” If this was baited by Gihren, he’s done it masterfully - with a big ship collision added to the news, and probably a spike in food prices for some Banchi, support for independence will only become fiercer.
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One hour until voting closes.

>>5982352
Ramba has been cycling around between training pilots in Zeon and Riah, and occasional special assignments elsewhere. Most of his time is spent in Zeon. Felix has been able to see him a few times during training.
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>>5982329
>”If we’re going to be activated then we’ll be working disaster relief, right? We could take out pods and some of the Mobile Workers to clear debris.” You happen to have a great deal of experience with both.
>”...Any word from the rest of the brass on everything that’s been going on? I just got back from Riah, the generals were all spooked by the intensity of the crackdown… The Feddies are overplaying their hand, Dozle, but we’re not ready for a fight yet either.” If this was baited by Gihren, he’s done it masterfully - with a big ship collision added to the news, and probably a spike in food prices for some Banchi, support for independence will only become fiercer.
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>>5982329
>”...Any word from the rest of the brass on everything that’s been going on? I just got back from Riah, the generals were all spooked by the intensity of the crackdown… The Feddies are overplaying their hand, Dozle, but we’re not ready for a fight yet either.” If this was baited by Gihren, he’s done it masterfully - with a big ship collision added to the news, and probably a spike in food prices for some Banchi, support for independence will only become fiercer.
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>>5982531
>>5982343
Mobile Workers+Brass.

>>5982491
>>5982352
Open line+Brass.

>>5982555
>>5982358
>>5982340
>>5982332
Brass. Wins, writing.
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”...Any word from the rest of the brass on everything that’s been going on? I just got back from Riah, the generals were all spooked by the intensity of the crackdown…” You ask Dozle solemnly, laying out the situation as you see while doing so. You take a seat in front of his desk, as does Artesia. “The Federation are overplaying their hand, Dozle, but we’re not ready for a fight yet either.”

“Any word? The word is prepare. A general standby has been ordered, other units are being activated too, and not for debris cleanup.” Dozle rumbles out his response, taking a seat within his far larger high chair and letting out a frustrated growl, “That was Rugens on the phone just now, got caught out on vacation, ha. What a time to take a week off! The situation was the same in Riah?”

“Nervous generals, lots of confusion, reserves being prepared to be called up; I’d say that’s a match if I’ve ever heard one.” There’s little to add to the general picture, the more precise details you could give Dozle are likely already out of date, and certainly will be by the time anything further happens.

“Mm. We may not be ready for a war, but if these Federation fools keep acting this way they’re going to get a big surprise.” Dozle smashes one meaty hand into the palm of his other, “Someone will give them a black eye, I am certain of it.”

“Do you think that’s wise though?” Artesia questions quietly, her words cutting through the big man’s posturing as few can besides mother. She understood your intent as soon as you began, clueing in by feeling alone.

“...Mm.” Dozle strokes his scarred chin and considers the question. He might not be the most clever of the Zabis, especially politically, but he is actually quite intelligent - just very blunt and straightforward, “I think it is not worth finding out - And you know how I love a big fight. That die shouldn’t be cast. Not yet.”

“Oh, you’ve been reading Suetonius?” You question, surprised to hear something so old from Dozle.

“...Just bits and pieces, I try to read most of what is assigned to cadets. I’m glad you’re keeping up.” The huge Zabi seems quite pleased with your observation, but he’s wrong.

“I read most of the old histories years ago, when I was finishing my degree.” You correct him.

“So did I. We are keeping up though, don’t worry.” Artesia adds in. She never had as much of an appreciation for the humanities as you did, more interested in the physical sciences, but she also didn’t run off for hours shooting guns or fencing like you and Casval have. You’re all incredibly educated for your age, but Artesia's love for books and greater free time meant she covered more ground overall, and because of that little islands of unexpected knowledge still pop up here and there.
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>>5982656

“Ah, yes, I do forget sometimes you were all so many years ahead. Fitting for your - for our - family!” Dozle grins wide, thoughts drifting away from the present for a few moments, “Simpler times! When we have finally dealt with the Federation, we’ll have made a world for little Mineva, Max, and Luna, where they have the time to do the same if they wish.”

“That’s the goal, isn’t it?” You find yourself agreeing easily, though your picture of an ideal world is probably quite a lot more complicated that Dozle’s - his thinking on Newtypes is still shaded heavily by Gihren. He probably isn’t thinking of Newtypes at all.

“So it is. Gihren wouldn’t agree. He never wants to stop, never takes time to let things rest.” Dozle frowns as he mutters the words, but eventually comes back around to a more intense and determined look, “That’s his strength. He does not lose sight of what we can make ours.”

“It can be a weakness just as easily.” Artesia is again the one to slide the blade in, something about her voice and kind smile making the half-insult go over easier, “These speeches he gives are provoking people too quickly, it isn’t controlled. He’s gambling with the future.”

Dozle grunts again in acknowledgement, popping the top off of one of the crystal decanters on his desk and pouring out a finger of dark liquid into a glass, “Everything in politics is a gamble. It’s beyond me.”

“But it can be controlled, prepared for, and built up to right until the moment that dice throw is necessary. You use weighted dice, if you’re not a fool.” Artesia continues, and understanding that you’re of the same mind on this you let her just go at it. It’s one of the subtler benefits of being newtypes, moments like this just happen on occasion. “Gihren’s only guiding the chaos around, hoping it rolls a face he’d like if he keeps slapping at it. A lot of people die every time he does. Children, Dozle.”
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>>5981681
>Spacenoids will forever mog you with newtype powers
Maybe if we ignore the fact that all of the strongest newtypes either came out of the Murasame Institute or were born on Earth.
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>>5982657

“...You have your mother’s heart.” Dozle’s shoulders slump, a lot of the anger he’s been holding in just melting away. For a moment you see a bit of Degwin’s tired old melancholy in him, but he’s far too young for such a look to settle for more than heartbeat. A sip of his drink banishes it entirely. “Would you like a drink?”

Drink?
>Yes
>No

Vote:
>”If we’re going to be activated then we’ll be working disaster relief, right? We could take out pods and some of the Mobile Workers to clear debris.” You happen to have a great deal of experience with both. A change of subject now that some seeds of doubt have been sown by Artesia.
>”...You know the Federation is using Guardian as a staging point for supplying their forces, don’t you? More than usual, the base is filled to capacity.” You’re trusting a lot in what Blare said earlier, but he’s reliable.
>”If a war did start, how’s the fleet looking? It’s been awhile since we’ve talked about it.” Dozle likes ships, you like ships, it’s an easy conversation even if there’s more tension around it than usual.
>Write-in.
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>>5982659
>No
Nothing good comes of Felix drinking.
>”If a war did start, how’s the fleet looking? It’s been awhile since we’ve talked about it.” Dozle likes ships, you like ships, it’s an easy conversation even if there’s more tension around it than usual. (1)
>”If we’re going to be activated then we’ll be working disaster relief, right? We could take out pods and some of the Mobile Workers to clear debris.” You happen to have a great deal of experience with both. A change of subject now that some seeds of doubt have been sown by Artesia. (2)
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>>5982659
>No
>”If we’re going to be activated then we’ll be working disaster relief, right? We could take out pods and some of the Mobile Workers to clear debris.” You happen to have a great deal of experience with both. A change of subject now that some seeds of doubt have been sown by Artesia.
Drink with Dadzle after this blows over.
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>>5982659
>No
>”If we’re going to be activated then we’ll be working disaster relief, right? We could take out pods and some of the Mobile Workers to clear debris.” You happen to have a great deal of experience with both. A change of subject now that some seeds of doubt have been sown by Artesia.
>”If a war did start, how’s the fleet looking? It’s been awhile since we’ve talked about it.” Dozle likes ships, you like ships, it’s an easy conversation even if there’s more tension around it than usual.
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>>5982659
>No
>”...You know the Federation is using Guardian as a staging point for supplying their forces, don’t you? More than usual, the base is filled to capacity.” You’re trusting a lot in what Blare said earlier, but he’s reliable.
I forget if this is accurate or not in canon.

>>5982658
Earthnoid cope.
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>>5982659
>No
>”...You know the Federation is using Guardian as a staging point for supplying their forces, don’t you? More than usual, the base is filled to capacity.” You’re trusting a lot in what Blare said earlier, but he’s reliable.
>>5982658
Kamille and Judau.
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>>5982680
>Kamille and Judau
Lalah and the Murasame Cybers.
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>>5982659
>No
>”If we’re going to be activated then we’ll be working disaster relief, right? We could take out pods and some of the Mobile Workers to clear debris.” You happen to have a great deal of experience with both. A change of subject now that some seeds of doubt have been sown by Artesia.
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One hour until voting closes.
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>>5982661 (2nd)
>>5982668
>>5983071
Activated. Wins, writing.

>>5982677
>>5982680
Staging point.

>>5982673
Activated+naval warfare talk.
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“I’ll pass for now,” You decline the offer of a drink, as does your sister, and continue to ponder the ongoing game of war chicken Gihren and the Federation seem to be playing. Neither wants a war to start now. Zeon and especially Riah aren’t ready, and the Federation is as fractured in its opinions as always. They’re only able to act with any unity when the situation forces it to stamp a boot down. As a Deikun-Zabi you have some influence, but even within Zeon it’s mostly your late father’s prestige that gets you things; you can’t really sway what’s going on short of putting a bullet in Gihren… Which you and Casval have both considered many times, but that would likely trigger a nasty civil war and a Federation intervention on unacceptably bad terms. Unable to think of any solutions save for pushing ahead, you continue with the conversation. “If we’re going to be activated then we’ll be working disaster relief, right? We could take out pods and some of the Mobile Workers to clear debris around that Banchi by Zum.”

“I was considering the same plan,” Dozle rumbles approvingly, “But you won’t be taking out Mobile Workers, it will be pods and shuttles only. We’ll have some of our more experienced pilots out in the Workers… You’re disappointed? Speak.”

“Yes, sir, I am.” You agree with a slight frown - you are disappointed, and don’t try to conceal it, but you still attempt to present your case as best you can, “Most of our class has qualified fully on the simulators, we could use the Workers to get more done than a pod. and it would do them all some good to get out and practice in the real thing. Caval, Vivima, and I are qualified to be flight leaders on everything but paper - I’ve even done it a few times out in Riah. There’s a training and propaganda opportunity here, we could come out of this looking stronger.”

Artesia adds on a little at the end, expanding on your point about propaganda, “Zeon’s united ruling family working with new technology to fix the mistakes of the federation - we’d be showing that we use our power for peace and the good of the Sides. The news stories write themselves.”

Dozle squints slightly as he thinks, as if he were watching the clean-up efforts even now, just very far off in the distance, “Mm. Perhaps there is a great opportunity here. This must be the kind of situation Gihren was hoping to create, I see now. …I will check if enough Mobile Workers can be mustered to outfit the more capable cadets.”

…That’s not the kind of situation he was hoping for at all, he’s too vicious to think like that - though of course he’ll take advantage of it, like everything and everyone else Gihren ever gets a hold of. Regardless, you’re glad to have gotten your idea through with Artesia’s help.
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>>5983163

10:15, 10th December UC 0077
Agriculture Colony 17 ‘Zepila’, Side Three (Republic of Zeon)


Slight shifts of the control pedals coax your Mobile Worker forward through the dark of space, moving carefully through the debris floating all around the silver length of the damaged agricultural colony. Dull metal plates scorched blac by the detonation of the federation cruiser float almost invisible across the sea of stars, barely perceptible save for when they block the light of distant suns, while shinier sections of silvered steel rotate ends over end, slowly traveling further and further from the point of impact. Much of the debris has already scattered far, but this patch is still thick and dense. Squinting through the glass of your helmet, you check your Mobile Worker’s visual scanner readout. There’s no sophisticated heads up display, just green blips on a three dimensional monochrome grid. You’ve worked with less before though, and can make enough sense to plot out the course ahead. A few more taps of your Worker’s thrusters send you silently to where you need to be, right alongside a huge support beam that was torn free.

Crawling closer by verniers only, you open up your worker’s heavy hand clamps and get them around the bar. A loud clang reverberates through the interior of the cockpit as you tap a button and send them shutting tight, noise traveling up through the metal of the Worker’s arms clamps and arms.

Though there weren’t enough Mobile Workers able to be scrounged up for everyone, enough were found to give to promising pilots. Tapping at your radio controls with a gloved hand, you call out the successful capture to the other pilots you’re working with…

>”Got another support beam, Viv. Get over here with that cutting beam.” Tryph is your third pilot, flying a collector pod to gather the chopped debris.
>”Got another beam, Cas. Come slice it up.” Garma is here too, flying a collector pod.
>”Got another big one, Tiff. Try not to shred it like confetti this time, okay?” Blare is here too, flying the collector pod.
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>>5983164
>”Got another support beam, Viv. Get over here with that cutting beam.” Tryph is your third pilot, flying a collector pod to gather the chopped debris.
Alright Anons, hear me out. We try and influence Vivima in a more positive way instead of just avoiding her.
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>>5983164
>”Got another support beam, Viv. Get over here with that cutting beam.” Tryph is your third pilot, flying a collector pod to gather the chopped debris.

>>5983172
Only way to do that is Un-gay her.
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>>5983177
>Only way to do that is Un-gay her.
We'll need a volunteer. Someone to take one for the team.
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>>5983164
Supporting >>5983172. We've been a bit too gun-shy when it comes to talking to her.
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>>5983164
>”Got another beam, Cas. Come slice it up.” Garma is here too, flying a collector pod.
We really haven't been interacting much with him.
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>>5983164
>”Got another beam, Cas. Come slice it up.” Garma is here too, flying a collector pod.

>>5983172
>We try and influence Vivima in a more positive way
We should be doing that with Cas more. It's crazy that we have hardly done anything with him compared to Artesia.
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>>5983205
I'm fine with Cas too, we really don't spend a lot of time with him. Saying that though we did put Tryph in a very precarious position by essentially being Viv's babysitter. And we've been outright avoiding her every time she comes up.
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>>5983164
>”Got another support beam, Viv. Get over here with that cutting beam.” Tryph is your third pilot, flying a collector pod to gather the chopped debris.

It's time to man up and face Vivima down. Allowing a potential powerful newtype to be stuck in Kycilia and Gihren's collective pocket is an unacceptable risk.
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>>5983164
1)
>”Got another big one, Tiff. Try not to shred it like confetti this time, okay?” Blare is here too, flying the collector pod.
He will die in the war almost guaranteed.
2)
>”Got another beam, Cas. Come slice it up.” Garma is here too, flying a collector pod.
Love me some Cas moments.

>>5983172
>influence Vivima
Bro we aren't gonna influence her, she will influence us. Felix just doesn't have the same willpower as she does, remember the ballroom?
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>>5983164
>”Got another beam, Cas. Come slice it up.” Garma is here too, flying a collector pod.

>>5983213
>we did put Tryph in a very precarious position by essentially being Viv's babysitter
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't we ask Tryphosa not to help Viv with her newtype awakening, but she still wanted to do it because of her beliefs about newtypes? I believe Tryph would be her "babysitter" either way.
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>>5983252
>Tryphosa not to help Viv with her newtype awakening
Did we? I don't remember, but I do remember encouraging her to try and sway Viv more to our side.
>>5983226
>she will influence us.
Alright, better idea. We stick her with Cas. Surely nothing bad would happen there.
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>>5983164
>”Got another beam, Cas. Come slice it up.” Garma is here too, flying a collector pod.

>>5983258
Maybe if Cas grows out his hair.
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One hour until voting closes.

For what it matters, Felix usually sees Casval once a week or more often for pod training, as well as in exercises at the academy. He hasn't been able to spend much free time with them outside of that, but they're all very intwined in each others lives. Tryphosa is around somewhat frequently, as are her sisters sometimes. There has been no great progress to speak of on making her sisters less nutso, and Viv still has the hots for Tryph.

>>5983274
>>5983258
Pretty sure that has been discussed before, or at least is has been indirectly. I'd have to go dig through the old threads, but I think it was right before the party where Felix got zero-g leg wrapped by Elena while they were both drunk as space skunks..
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>>5983294
>Pretty sure that has been discussed before
I was joking about setting her and Cas up. IIRC we told him to hold off on doing anything like that because we sort of found out about Lalah.
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>>5983294
>Felix got zero-g leg wrapped by Elena while they were both drunk as space skunks
I remember this. Did Felix really knock her up from that?
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>>5983164
1)
>”Got another beam, Cas. Come slice it up.” Garma is here too, flying a collector pod.
2)
>”Got another big one, Tiff. Try not to shred it like confetti this time, okay?” Blare is here too, flying the collector pod.
I think I'll go with this for now.
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>>5983314
I can't believe Lalah is going to be a Gundam pilot.
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>>5983164
>”Got another big one, Tiff. Try not to shred it like confetti this time, okay?” Blare is here too, flying the collector pod.
These two are funny and I'm still not fully convinced that Casval won't frag Vivima if the opportunity arises.

>>5983258
>Alright, better idea. We stick her with Cas
She's a little old for him. He either needs Lalah or maybe Haman if her father is already in charge of Axis.

>>5983319
inb4 everything is so butterflied that she's on Side 7 and instead of the RX-78-1 and RX-78-2 it's the RX-78-2 and the RX-78NT-1. Or worse Chlust Moses is there instead of Tem Ray.

Actually Contolist >>5983294, I know Flanagan is kicking around in his antisemitic caricature of an Origin portrayal, but is Dr. Moses still at the Flanagan Institute or has that body's new outlook driven him to Earth already?
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>>5983316
Yes.

>>5983314
Yes, Felix told him to hold out for the right person after getting a weird newtype feeling about it.

>>5983356
Moses is still there. For now. Marion is off somewhere living a normal life still. As for the RX-78NT-1, the feddies will need to find a different test pilot because Christina is currently in Riah's mobile suit corps and one of its most promising junior officers. She's up for selection as a test pilot at Zeonic.

>>5983172
>>5983177
>>5983189
>>5983222
Viv.

>>5983203
>>5983205
>>5983226 (2nd)
>>5983252
>>5983274
>>5983318
Cas. Wins, writing.

>>5983356
Tiff.
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>>5983226
Way I see things shaping up, we're either going to have to find some way to influence her, directly or otherwise, or we're going to end up having to kill her alongside Kycilia and Gihren.
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Hopefully we can help Cas become a better newtype while we are both flying.
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>>5983494
>Cas. Wins, writing.
Finally, a timeline where Casval always wins instead of one where he picks the underdog and loses even when he wins...

>As for the RX-78NT-1, the feddies will need to find a different test pilot because Christina is currently in Riah's mobile suit corps
If only there was another prominent Newtype pilot living on Earth. Hmm. Alternatively Tem Ray going full Gendo Ikari could be entertaining. Also at the very least there is an active Newtype lab on Earth, even if it is the worst one in existence for the time being. Pretty sure Felix & Co.'s more open and humanizing perspective on Newtypes will drive Moses off sooner rather than later, he didn't cause Marion's accident on purpose, but he's still very much fixated on cyber/forcibly evolved Newtypes or even just copying their abilities mechanically. Sort of a middle ground between Flanagan and Mursame.

I'll stop analyzing literally nothing though, I hate when anons do that.

Also I swear I didn't know Haman was currently only 11 years old officer, that was a mistake.
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>>5983593
>11 years old
Like most Origin timeline characters she is slightly older, so she'd be thirteen currently.
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“Got another beam, Cas.” You speak through your helmet’s radio, close enough still to Casval and Garma that they should be able to easily pick up the transmission even with so much debris and a low Minovsky count filling the void, “Come slice it up.”

Your brother’s red Mobile Worker - somehow he managed to get a red one - jets suddenly into view in front of you, coming up from below with its cutting torch already burning white hot. In a flash he’s at work chopping up the beam into fourths, quick sweeps to either side of your worker’s shut clamps cutting off even lengths of the twisted girder. He’s been trying to set a new record the whole flight, working faster and faster - there’s nothing wrong with a good work ethic, quite the opposite in fact, but you know he’s just doing it because he wants his name at the top of the Mobile Worker time records. He didn't even know records were kept until a few hours ago. Oh, Casval.

“...Thirteen that time, shaved off half a second.” Casval’s proud voice sounds through your helmet’s speaker, “Garma, we have more for the basket.”

While you wait for Garma to maneuver the comparatively sluggish salvage pod into position nearby, bumping and scraping into a few smaller pieces of debris and the bulbous craft presses forward, you round up the cut girder sections. With precision born from countless hours of practice, you manipulate the control levers of your mobile worker, thumbs carefully leaning the smaller side joysticks, until you have two cut girder sections held tightly in each clamp, perfectly in line with one another. Is it necessary to be so precise? Not at all, but it’s fun. Casval can’t be the only one showing off.

Garma’s pod is finally close enough, and you open one of the larger hatches on the simple cargo section attached to it and carefully lower the cut girders inside. Securing non-ferrous scrap is a trickier ordeal, but steel beams like these clamp right down onto magplates and are locked safely away for disposal elsewhere.

“...One down, several hundred to go…” Garma grumbles over the radio, unhappy with the cleanup detail - he’s cut out most of his complaining by now, but you know he doesn’t get the same joy from flying that you and Casval do, or Vivima or even Artesia for that matter. Not such mundane flying at least, put him in command of a ship and he’d probably be perfectly content, for a few weeks anyways. “Just how much of a mess can one exploding cruiser make? I keep getting frozen cabbage hitting the viewscreen.”
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>>5983795

“I could cook some of it, if you’d prefer.” Casval flares the cutting torches at the end of his Mobile Worker’s arms to life, jets burning bright in the dark of space. You’re already scouting out the next heavy beam to cut up, working through the debris by type - these steel girders are the most dangerous to larger ships and will rip right through collector nets, not of the debris is moving at quite the same speed and it only takes the slightest difference to cause serious damage with masses this large.

“Ha, I’ll pass! I saw how you made your meal last exercise.” Garma laughs at your brother’s suggestion, the three of you already moving onto the next beam. Clamp, cut, stow - though mundane, it requires careful attention. The Mobile Workers aren’t at too great a risk from the debris, these ones are converted first production run Zaku and still have most of their super hardened steel armor. Garma's pod is reinforced, but still delicate in comparison. At times you have to help shepherd away torn plates and other scrap floating nearby so he can pass by it safely.

As you work, far off in the distance a pair of blue Federation Salamis-class cruisers are silhouetted against the inky black. There are even more further out, little lights burning in the dark as they move by distant silver cylinders you know to be the next closest Banchi of Side Three. One of those is Zum, just barely in sight - focusing your worker’s optics to their fullest, though limited, extent, you can see a haze of light around the closed-type colony’s spaceport. There must be a dozen Federation ships there.

“I don’t like them watching us like this.” You say over the radio to your brother and Garma while storing another pair of chopped beam sections in the pod’s bulky add-on cargo bay, “There was only one there half an hour ago.”

“...I hadn’t noticed. When did the second one arrive?” Garma questions. The maneuvering thrusters on his pod puff as he brings the cumbersome craft into a slow spin to face the ships and get a better view. Casval’s red Worker burns up alongside you as well, coming to a sudden stop.

“Ten minutes ago.” You answer, squinting as you examine the silhouettes of the cruisers - there's something off. “...Would you look at that - they’re different variants. The second one is newer, they put in a new point defense gun to cover the blind spot.”

“That won’t be enough to mean anything.” Casval doesn’t sound worried, “It’s a gesture to make themselves feel like they’re keeping up.”
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>>5983796

“Someone is taking small vessels more seriously if they’re making those changes…” Your words taper off to nothing as you consider the odd vessel further, noting more oddities about its hull shape, “It has an expanded hangar bay as well, I bet they can fit another pair of saberfish in there. …Someone is definitely paying attention.”

“I haven’t heard anything about a fleet rearmament,” Garma sounds more confused than worried, clearly not taking it all that seriously either, “Shouldn’t we have heard of it if they were doing something like refitting their cruisers?”

“It might be a one off, they experiment just as much as we do… Usually it doesn’t make it out into field use though.” It doesn’t sit well with you. Revil might be pushing through design refits, or perhaps it was one of his more competent staff that’ve replaced some of the purged Federation commanders.

“Want to take a closer look?” Your brother asks in a mischievous tone.

>”I do… but we shouldn’t. They might get jumpy.” There are vessels broadcasting parts of your cleanup operation across the Side - Federation news mostly, but Kycilia and Gihren managed to get their own propagandists out as well despite the Federation crackdown.
>”...Let’s drop off the salvage first, we’ll swing by them on the way to another debris field.” It’s a good chance to get a closer look at the Federation’s newest ship upgrades, whether it’s a one off or not. You’re too curious to miss the chance.
>”...I have a better idea. It will piss them off, but I think they deserve it after causing this.” Once the scrap is dropped off, Garma’s pod will be loaded with frozen produce. It will then be accelerated to high speeds by its thrusters and the mobile workers, the cargo bay will be opened, and you will all burn hard in reverse. This will effectively launch several tons of frozen cabbage at the new Federation ship’s bridge at high speeds.
>Write-in.
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>>5983798
>”...Let’s drop off the salvage first, we’ll swing by them on the way to another debris field.” It’s a good chance to get a closer look at the Federation’s newest ship upgrades, whether it’s a one off or not. You’re too curious to miss the chance.
Info is always good.
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>>5983798
>”...Let’s drop off the salvage first, we’ll swing by them on the way to another debris field.” It’s a good chance to get a closer look at the Federation’s newest ship upgrades, whether it’s a one off or not. You’re too curious to miss the chance.
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>>5983798
>”...Let’s drop off the salvage first, we’ll swing by them on the way to another debris field.” It’s a good chance to get a closer look at the Federation’s newest ship upgrades, whether it’s a one off or not. You’re too curious to miss the chance.
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>>5983798
>>”...Let’s drop off the salvage first, we’ll swing by them on the way to another debris field.” It’s a good chance to get a closer look at the Federation’s newest ship upgrades, whether it’s a one off or not. You’re too curious to miss the chance.
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If we swing by, we should match the speed of garma's pod to slowly look at the ship.

Though i'm tempted to Top Gun and Buzz its bridge.
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>>5983694
Speaking of Haman where exactly is Axis before the Gryps conflict? It seems like it's on the edge of the Earth Sphere (outside of the Moon's orbit) but some statements put it outside the Earth Sphere, presumably in a co-orbital configuration with Earth.
>>5983795
>somehow he managed to get a red one
Red makes your kicks stronger.
>>5983798
>”...Let’s drop off the salvage first, we’ll swing by them on the way to another debris field.” It’s a good chance to get a closer look at the Federation’s newest ship upgrades, whether it’s a one off or not. You’re too curious to miss the chance.
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>>5983816
Axis is out in the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter, well outside of the Earth Sphere. A lot of Zeon's fleet production is taking place out there, especially for the heaviest ship classes. Dozle knows much more and is heavily involved in fleet planning, Mink (currently with Elena) knows a surprising amount about the belt generally since asteroid mining and construction is her family's business, and Tryphosa has general knowledge of humanity's more remote settlements. Viv would know a fair amount as well, Axis recently got its mobile suit production into full swing and integrated her unified production standards.
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>>5983798
>”...Let’s drop off the salvage first, we’ll swing by them on the way to another debris field.” It’s a good chance to get a closer look at the Federation’s newest ship upgrades, whether it’s a one off or not. You’re too curious to miss the chance.
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>>5983798
>”...I have a better idea. It will piss them off, but I think they deserve it after causing this.” Once the scrap is dropped off, Garma’s pod will be loaded with frozen produce. It will then be accelerated to high speeds by its thrusters and the mobile workers, the cargo bay will be opened, and you will all burn hard in reverse. This will effectively launch several tons of frozen cabbage at the new Federation ship’s bridge at high speeds.
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If Tiff were here you just know she'd be gunning for throwing shit at the Feddies. Frozen vegetables. Frozen fruit. COLONIES!

Voting will remain open until the morning.
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>>5983798
>>”...Let’s drop off the salvage first, we’ll swing by them on the way to another debris field.” It’s a good chance to get a closer look at the Federation’s newest ship upgrades, whether it’s a one off or not. You’re too curious to miss the chance.
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One hour until voting closes.
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>>5984006
>>5983858
>>5983816
>>5983806
>>5983804
>>5983802
>>5983800
Drop off and fly by. Wins, writing.

>>5983879
Cabbage cannon.
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>>5984002
>spoiler
Tiff is based confirmed?
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>>5984242
Yeah but we already knew that. zeon womb tattoo
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“...Let’s drop off the salvage first,” You reply over your helmet’s radio, turning your head slightly to check one of the readout screens and confirm you current coolant levels; still plenty of operating time left, “We’ll swing by them on the way to another debris field.”

“How close will we go?” Garma asks, his voice crackling a little more for a moment, the mild Minovsky interference growing somewhat rougher, “My pod is slow, even with the container empty.”

“As close as we can. They won’t fire.” Your brother answers confidently, “Would you prefer we push you, Garma? That would get you past them faster.”

“I’m not afraid of them,” Garma replies somewhat indignantly, “I’ll show you, Casval - I’ll go right past their bridge.”

“Felix, you heard Garma’s plan - Right past the bridge. You can swing below to see that new cannon - How’s that for a look?” Casval asks you. You can tell your brother is already enjoying this, and even find yourself smiling.

“Make sure to wave as you pass, Garma, they might want to take photos.” You laugh, thinking of the panicked bridge crew trying to figure out what to do about the three of you getting so close. It’s a military vessel, so you’d normally be wary of it firing out of self-defense, you do have clamps and cutters that could severely damage it if you got into a blind spot, but with news cameras watching from far off and your presence here widely known, you doubt they’d do anything half so brash. Maybe scramble a Saberfish or two to escort you past at the absolute most.

The scrap drop off back at the colony’s damaged spaceport goes by quickly and without any hitches, a quick stop inside one of its massive vacuum hangars and other soldiers of Zeon’s defense forces - combat engineers and logistics workers in normal suits - quickly swarm to unload everything and do quick maintenance checks on all three of your vessels. You’re back out in open space in just a few minutes, burning along a path charted by Casval which will take you extremely close to the upgraded Salamis’ bridge. Garma speaks over the radio, broadcasting a warning to the Federation of your flight path and requesting them to clear the way - which you all know they won’t - but you aren’t paying attention to the specific words. Your mind is both within the cockpit of your Mobile Worker, and elsewhere for a time, drifting out across the black of space to reach toward Tryphosa. You soon find her comforting presence in the dark; there is no exchange of words, but you can understand at once she is working and everything is alright on the far side of the colony. Good. Retreating back to a single awareness, you continue checking over the instruments within the cockpit, keeping a close eye on the three dimensional map of debris being charted on one screen. Lots of micro debris for magnets to grab after you’re done with the larger pieces, nothing dangerous.
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>>5984267

The pair of Salamis-class cruisers grow quickly on your Worker’s forward view screens, slowly growing to fill the center screen, and then to stretch around to the two angled peripheral ones, parts of the image blocked by the bevel between screens. …A more seamless cockpit would be a great aid.

“...Reroute immediately…” You listen close to the Federation chatter directed back at Garma, but it’s little more than what you expected, ”...Or will be forced to intercept your craft…

The cruisers grow closer still, and you can see clearly as a pair of Saberfish fighters slide smoothly out from the expanded hangar bay bulging oddly from the upgraded one’s underside. That’s a fast launch, they were ready for this. White puffs fire from their maneuvering thrusters as they bring their noses - and weapons - about to face your approaching flight.

“...say …again, Athens?” Garma’s voice is breaking up, and for a moment you think he’s faking the interference - but no, it isn’t a humorous fake radio error, the Minovsky count near the upgraded Salamis, the Athens, is rapidly increasing.

>“Howdy! Lovely day for flight, isn’t it?” Flip on your laser comms and manually track the intercepting Saberfish, talk to their pilots. How they respond might clue you into their intentions.
>Reach out across the void of space and try to feel the intent of the pilots and bridge crew - are they merely posturing, or actually dumb enough to try something?
>Just focus on your flying and keep your Worker’s cameras trained on points of interest - swing low, as planned, and take a look at the new point defenses and expanded hangar. There’s no chance these Feddies will try something.
>Write-in.
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>>5984268
>Reach out across the void of space and try to feel the intent of the pilots and bridge crew - are they merely posturing, or actually dumb enough to try something?
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>>5984268
1)
>“Howdy! Lovely day for flight, isn’t it?” Flip on your laser comms and manually track the intercepting Saberfish, talk to their pilots. How they respond might clue you into their intentions.
>Reach out across the void of space and try to feel the intent of the pilots and bridge crew - are they merely posturing, or actually dumb enough to try something?
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>Reach out across the void of space and try to feel the intent of the pilots and bridge crew - are they merely posturing, or actually dumb enough to try something?
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>“Howdy! Lovely day for flight, isn’t it?” Flip on your laser comms and manually track the intercepting Saberfish, talk to their pilots. How they respond might clue you into their intentions.
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>>5984268
>“Howdy! Lovely day for flight, isn’t it?” Flip on your laser comms and manually track the intercepting Saberfish, talk to their pilots. How they respond might clue you into their intentions.
>Reach out across the void of space and try to feel the intent of the pilots and bridge crew - are they merely posturing, or actually dumb enough to try something?
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>>5984268
>Just focus on your flying and keep your Worker’s cameras trained on points of interest - swing low, as planned, and take a look at the new point defenses and expanded hangar. There’s no chance these Feddies will try something.
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>>5984268
>Just focus on your flying and keep your Worker’s cameras trained on points of interest - swing low, as planned, and take a look at the new point defenses and expanded hangar. There’s no chance these Feddies will try something.
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>>5984268
>Just focus on your flying and keep your Worker’s cameras trained on points of interest - swing low, as planned, and take a look at the new point defenses and expanded hangar. There’s no chance these Feddies will try something.
>“Howdy! Lovely day for flight, isn’t it?” Flip on your laser comms and manually track the intercepting Saberfish, talk to their pilots. How they respond might clue you into their intentions.


The Salamis minovsky count is increasing, Oh? thats a neat little suprise.
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One hour until voting closes.
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>>5984268
>>“Howdy! Lovely day for flight, isn’t it?” Flip on your laser comms and manually track the intercepting Saberfish, talk to their pilots. How they respond might clue you into their intentions.
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>>5984268
>“Howdy! Lovely day for flight, isn’t it?” Flip on your laser comms and manually track the intercepting Saberfish, talk to their pilots. How they respond might clue you into their intentions.
>Reach out across the void of space and try to feel the intent of the pilots and bridge crew - are they merely posturing, or actually dumb enough to try something?
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>>5984269
Reach out.

>>5984274
>>5984279
>>5984350
>>5984431 (late but I'll take it since I was busy)
Howdy+Reach out. Wins, writing.

>>5984288
>>5984298
Focus.

>>5984398
Howdy.
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Toggling on your laser comms with the flip of a switch, you coax the Worker-converted Zaku’s annoyingly touchy broadcast laser into position. Minovsky particles still distort visible light enough to baffle optical targeting systems and laser receivers, especially as densities get very high, but carefully directed line of sight based laser communication is mostly reliable at short to medium ranges. After a moment of fiddling with the control you get a steady track on the slowly approaching Saberfish, and auto-tracking takes over after another second. If they were moving at full speed then the computer couldn’t auto-track them like this, especially not two targets with micro debris all around and an increasing Minovsky count from the Salamis.

“Howdy! Lovely day for a flight, isn’t it?” You greet them cheerily - no one else can hear your conversation. Even before you get a response, you’re extending your awareness out beyond the confines of your Mobile Worker’s cockpit and into the void of space, the colors of human thought flowing distorted and difficult to interpret across the dark.

“Republic of Zeon Mobile Worker, alter your flight path…” Blah blah blah, that one’s no fun. There’s very little in the way of color in the space around his Saberfish either, very little or no newtype potential. You mute him and try the other pilot instead, letting Casval and Garma bicker with Mr. No-Nonsense and the Athens bridge crew. The other Saberfish is the flight leader anyway, you’re likely to get a better feel from them.

“Howdy!” You greet again, “Partner there’s a bit of a stick in the mud, isn’t he? We’re just trying to fly through here, clean up this mess.”

“And you thought buzzing a cruiser was the best path to debris? Idiot.” A woman’s voice snaps back immediately, haughty and a bit annoyed.

“It was the quickest route. We’re on the same side here, aren’t we?’ You ask innocently, able to feel at once that there’s something more about this pilot - far from a newtype, but still leaving faint streaks of color you can begin to perceive in the void of space. Odd reds and blues, all cold.

She doesn’t buy it, and the Saberfish are now nearly on top of you, “Don’t kid yourself. Change course immediately.”

“You’re not here for disaster relief? What else would the Federation be doing here?” You question, not making no attempt to hide that you’re messing with her. This interception is probably nothing more than an intimidation display, meant to send you cowering away.

“Of course we are, and you’re interfering.” Her response is immediate, voice raising slightly - still at a level speaking voice though. The Saberfish pass overhead now, and then flip about with puffs of their maneuvering thrusters and burn hard to reverse course and follow alongside Casval, Garma, and you.
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>>5984493

“By cleaning up debris?” You poke again, know it’s not what the Salamis are doing at all. They’re not equipped to handle anything like this scale of a cleanup operation, only useful for battlefield recoveries of crew and supplies from other damaged ships, not gigantic pieces of metal debris.

“By flying within the self-protection radius of a warship!” As she speaks you feel the space around you grow colder, an icy chill radiating out as you perceive a blue so dark it begins to fade into the black of space, red flickering about it in a malevolent aura, “We’re authorized to use force if you don’t divert immediately. And yeah, I know who you spoiled brats are - stop screwing around and go clean up somewhere closer to the colony, or I’ll turn you into debris.”

Some people just don’t know when to stop running their mouth… And sometimes you’re one of them.

>”Sorry, I think the signal is breaking up, I’m getting a lot of bullshit from your end.” Cut the comms and just keep flying, she’s angry but there’s no way the Feddies are dumb enough to fire on the three of you.
>”Force? Well now, if it’s going to be like that, then don’t miss - you won’t get a second burst.” These pilots don’t seem to understand that by flying alongside they’ve put themselves well within range of getting clawed in half. These Workers are converted Zakus, but they’re still armored to resist light autocannon fire and have all the usual thrusters and verniers.
>”What’s your name, pilot? If you know mine, it’s only fair.” Nah, you’re not going to accept the escalation. You’re flying forward, and you’ll be cordial but stubborn.
>Write-in.
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>>5984495
>”Sorry, I think the signal is breaking up, I’m getting a lot of bullshit from your end.” Cut the comms and just keep flying, she’s angry but there’s no way the Feddies are dumb enough to fire on the three of you.
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>>5984495
>”What’s your name, pilot? If you know mine, it’s only fair.” Nah, you’re not going to accept the escalation. You’re flying forward, and you’ll be cordial but stubborn.
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>>5984495
>>”What’s your name, pilot? If you know mine, it’s only fair.” Nah, you’re not going to accept the escalation. You’re flying forward, and you’ll be cordial but stubborn.

Can we angle a laser at the reporters craft so we can stream the voice data to them.

Just keep her talking.
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>>5984506
You can, though it wouldn't be a great link. They're much further away, so the debris and Minovsky particles have more time to screw with the beam. It still would probably get most of it through though.
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>>5984522
Lets do it. And visually signal to our fellows we're going on air.
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>>5984495
>”Force? Well now, if it’s going to be like that, then don’t miss - you won’t get a second burst.” These pilots don’t seem to understand that by flying alongside they’ve put themselves well within range of getting clawed in half. These Workers are converted Zakus, but they’re still armored to resist light autocannon fire and have all the usual thrusters and verniers.
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>>5984495
>>”What’s your name, pilot? If you know mine, it’s only fair.” Nah, you’re not going to accept the escalation. You’re flying forward, and you’ll be cordial but stubborn.
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>>5984506
I'll support this

Yes I know I am playing right into the Zabis hands.
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>>5984495
>”What’s your name, pilot? If you know mine, it’s only fair.” Nah, you’re not going to accept the escalation. You’re flying forward, and you’ll be cordial but stubborn.
But I'd rather not stream it or go on air since it's what the Zabis would want.
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Voting will remain open until the morning.
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>>5984495
>”What’s your name, pilot? If you know mine, it’s only fair.” Nah, you’re not going to accept the escalation. You’re flying forward, and you’ll be cordial but stubborn.
>>5984506
Supporting the laser to the news crew.

I do not like that Felix convinced Revil to tryhard in office politics. The vote might have just made the OYW harder on us. So better to avoid the second vote, if we win a fight here it might just cause the feddies to take zeon more seriosly as a military threat and prepare more.
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One hour until voting closes.
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>>5984495
>>5984674
+1
Don't escalate the situation, don't do a Gihren when we're not ready for it.
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>>5984497
Bullshit beam.

>>5984551
This pilot clearly doesn't realize they're within clawing and (Casval's) kicking range.

>>5984505
>>5984506
>>5984629
>>5984656
>>5984779
>>5984674
>>5984922
Ask for their name, keep flying. Wins, but I won't start writing yet.

Mini-vote: Will you also try to broadcast the conversation to nearby news vessels? The beam connection will be spotty, but a lot of it would get through still.
>Yes.
>No.
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>>5984950
>Yes.
It's good insurance
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>>5984950
>No.
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>>5984950
>No.
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I'll give the mini-vote another hour.
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>>5984950
>No.
Let's not escalate this too far, that plays into Gihren's hands.
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>>5984960
>>5984968
>>5985236
No broadcast then, I'll get to writing.
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The update is coming along nicely, should have time to finish it up later tonight.
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“What’s your name, pilot? If you know mine then it’s only fair I know yours.” You keep your cool, choosing not to meet aggression with any more than you’re already showing - flying right past their ship is aggressive, harsher words would just add gas to an already lit flame.

“Pahlavi.” The female pilot replies at once, ”Captain Pahlavi. Which one are you?”

“Which one?” You almost feel a little offended being talked about like that, but you understand the question nonetheless - and you’re still moving forward, closer and closer to the cruiser. Soon it will be too late to meaningfully divert you, all this Federation posturing will amount to nothing and you’ll get a nice long look at the modified underside of the Athens, “My, that’s a way to ask, isn’t it?”

Pahlavi’s response comes back a bit amused, but increasingly annoyed, “One of the Deikuns, or the Zabi?”

“Felix Zos Deikun.” You answer with a smirk, not that she can see it, and decide to engage in a bit of banter. Just a few more seconds… “Do you have a first name, Captain Pahlavi? Pahlavi’s a very regal surname for a fighter pilot - Any relation?”

The answer you receive is a derisive snort, as if you’d asked her if she was part unicorn or something equally absurd, “Hah, maybe a long, long time ago - You’re not going to distract me with talk, cowboy, or get my name. Divert immediately.”

“Ah, hell. Can’t blame a guy for trying, can you?” You’ve got her now, you’re almost under the cruiser and none of its guns nor the fighters have opened up - this really must just by a bluff. There is anger in the space around you, but moreso a boiling frustration - no killing intent… it’s difficult to be sure though, your newtype awareness isn’t just some mind reading radar, far from it, and even after years you still struggle to use it willfully. There are no creeping feelings or flashes of warning insight though, so you’re confident - and the bottom of the ship is ever closer.

“No, but I can shoot you down for it.” Pahlavi growls back, and laser warning receivers begin to beep frantically in your ear as the Worker’s remaining defensive sensors pick up that you’re being targeted - normally even a beam riding weapon would suffer terrible inaccuracy in this level of Minovsky interference, but the Saberfish is at most a few dozen meters away, practically in spitting distance, and there’s no need for the laser besides intimidation, “Divert immediately, this is your final warning!”

“Now that’s a very serious threat, Captain Pahlavi.” Your voice grows a touch colder, harsh experience bleeding through, memories of burning guntanks and showers of flame high above Von Braun playing in your mind’s eye - the faces of soldiers in the villa, of the assassins at the announcement, all the men you’ve killed, “Have you ever shot down another pilot before?”
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>>5985515

Silence fills the air for a full second, and Pahlavi’s missed her chance - if she fires now she’ll be strafing the more vulnerable underside of the Salamis, you’re coming right up under it while Garma and Casval are splitting off to go above, pursued by the other fighter.

“Because I don’t think you’re going to cross that line today - not with us.” You continue, certain she won’t be trying a damned thing. Shifting the camera controls, you light up the Worker’s primary sensor to begin gathering as much footage of the Salamis’ converted underside as possible.

“I have a lock on you.”

“I heard the receivers.” You laugh.

Pahlavi scoffs, “That peacock of a pod has warning receivers?”

Peacock of a pod? Damn, Federation pilots really don’t understand mobile suits, Worker or not, if she’s thinking of it as just a pod with arms and legs - they’re fundamentally different from the ground up, AMBAC is a hell of a game changer, and it’s simply more intuitive than a pod could ever be, “...If you were going to shoot, you’d have done it by now.”

A burst of autocannon tracer streams off to the side of your left peripheral screen’s view, the bright shells slipping silently off into space. You laugh harder, now you know for certain there’s no teeth to any of this - Pahlavi’s bolder than the average Feddie, so you keep a little wary of her, but if she must have orders to not fire on you. That many warnings and then a warning shot? No, that’s just not how an intercept like this works when it’s serious, the rear of your Worker should be thoroughly dented up - or ventilated - with autocannon fire now.

>”Mind if I take some photos? You can pull up in front and wave if you want.” Take your time, get a nice full picture of all these modifications.
>”So how do you like the Saberfish? I flew one of the old stealth variants of it a few years back, handled like a dream. Kind of a shame all those angles and black paint don’t mean anything anymore, isn’t it?” Not only do you not take this interception seriously, you’re going to make small talk while you gather your footage of the ship.
>Nah, you’re done talking now - the yapping worked as a distraction and you’re not sensing anything worse coming, just do the job and then go clear debris in the next field.
>Write-in.
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>>5985518
>”So how do you like the Saberfish? I flew one of the old stealth variants of it a few years back, handled like a dream. Kind of a shame all those angles and black paint don’t mean anything anymore, isn’t it?” Not only do you not take this interception seriously, you’re going to make small talk while you gather your footage of the ship.
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>>5985518
>”So how do you like the Saberfish? I flew one of the old stealth variants of it a few years back, handled like a dream. Kind of a shame all those angles and black paint don’t mean anything anymore, isn’t it?” Not only do you not take this interception seriously, you’re going to make small talk while you gather your footage of the ship.
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>>5985518
>”So how do you like the Saberfish? I flew one of the old stealth variants of it a few years back, handled like a dream. Kind of a shame all those angles and black paint don’t mean anything anymore, isn’t it?” Not only do you not take this interception seriously, you’re going to make small talk while you gather your footage of the ship.
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>>5985518
>>”So how do you like the Saberfish? I flew one of the old stealth variants of it a few years back, handled like a dream. Kind of a shame all those angles and black paint don’t mean anything anymore, isn’t it?” Not only do you not take this interception seriously, you’re going to make small talk while you gather your footage of the ship.
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>>5985518
>”So how do you like the Saberfish? I flew one of the old stealth variants of it a few years back, handled like a dream. Kind of a shame all those angles and black paint don’t mean anything anymore, isn’t it?” Not only do you not take this interception seriously, you’re going to make small talk while you gather your footage of the ship.
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Two more hours to vote.
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>>5985535
>>5985541
>>5985544
>>5985613
>>5985641
Writing.
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“So how do you like the Saberfish?” You ask casually, Pahlavi’s warning burst failing to ruffle your feathers, “I flew one of the old stealth variants of it a few years back, handled like a dream. Shame all those angles and black paint don’t mean anything anymore, isn’t it?”

“Divert immediately!” Pahlavi gives out a final exasperated warning, but you both know it’s far too late now.

“I’m already under the ship.” You chuckle while keeping the converted Zaku’s main camera trained on the expanded hangar bay as you pass by it, glimpsing the cramped interior for a few seconds - there are four more Saberfish in there, two more than you’d expected, someone figured out a pretty ingenious way to stack their catapults but it looks like a nightmare to rearm with all that junk in the way. “Come on, you’ve got to have an opinion about the bird you’re flying.”

“How do you feel about that flying forklift?” Pahlavi’s angry, which just makes you laugh harder - you don’t transmit that though, goading a furious woman with an autocannon isn’t the smartest thing you’ve ever done, and everyone has their limits.

“Think it’s pretty swell for a conversion, the claws throw it off balance slightly but it’s manageable. Come on, thoughts on your fighter; how’d you rate it?”

“...It’s fine.” Pahlavi’s saberfish flares its main engines for a moment and thrusts forward to block your view of the Salamis’ underside and new defenses, but it’s mostly too late for that kind of direct obstruction - the video won’t untake itself, you’ve got what you wanted.

Fine? Just fine? Flown something else besides the trainer version?” You ask, now on the far side of the cruiser and quite pleased with the footage you’ve made off with before getting blocked.

“...I fly racers usually.” She sounds defeated, and you can feel the resignation emanating across space from her fighter, that cold blues and angry red both guttering out, “You flew a Saberfish a few years ago? Aren’t you only like… seventeen, or something?”

“Eighteen, and it was in Von Braun City, on Luna.” You see no reason not to tell the truth, censored slightly, especially since you doubt she’ll believe it for a second, “The Federation sold it to be scrapped, but Spacenoids are used to working with scraps from earth; we got it flying in no time.”
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>>5985979

“Cut it with the Spacenoid ingenuity spiel. You really buy into that Gihrenist crap?” Pahlavi’s saberfish emits more maneuvering puffs and spins about, ending up beside your Worker as Casval and Garma rejoin the flight path from the top side of the Athens, the other Saberfish flying alongside them, “...Command said we’re to escort you out to your next debris field.”

“I appreciate the gesture.” You try not to laugh further, and take the pilot’s question about ‘Gihrenism’ as seriously as you always do - it’s a despicable perversion of your father's legacy, but one you’re having to learn to work around to get things done. For now. “I’m traveling the path my father foresaw, nothing less.”

“What, to some age of ‘Newtypes’ that solves everyone’s problems?” Pahlavi scoffs. That’s precisely what your intentions are, though stating it so bluntly does make it sound ridiculous - but any idea can be made to sound absurd with the right, or rather wrong, rhetoric.

“Have you ever read any of my father’s books, Captain Pahlavi, or have you only heard about his ideas second hand?” You ask while making the long burn toward the far off debris field - It was the best one to get a path past the pair of cruisers, but it puts you about a quarter of the way out to the nearest undamaged Banchi.

“No, why waste my time with some dead guy’s books?”

…You choose to ignore your father being addressed as ‘some dead guy’, and ask a simple question instead, “Do you love flying, Captain? What led you to be a pilot?”

There’s a delay before the response comes through over your helmet’s speaker, “...I do. There’s nothing quite like open space and a lot of zeroes of delta-v to burn off.”

“Then I think if you approach my father’s books with an open mind, you might find something of interest in them. They aren’t just for Spacenoids, he addressed all of mankind…”
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>>5985980

The next few minutes pass by quickly, Pahlavi proving to be more receptive to your words than you’d expected, though you doubt you’ve really convinced her of anything. People tend to convince themselves, but maybe you’ve given her the nudge she’ll need to look into things herself. Once you’ve reached the debris fields, the two ‘escorting’ Saberfish peel off and head back to the Salamis, where you suspect Pahlavi is either going to get chewed out for firing her Saberfish’s guns while in view of news cameras, ro a pat on the back - really depends on the commander and their outlook.

Setting back to cleaning up debris, time passes quickly, and soon Garma’s pod is fully loaded again. The pair of Salamis have moved, and the debris field was drifting regardless, so you won’t be going past the ships again on the way back. What you will be going past is a Federation troop transport that is… you run a course calculation quickly… heading for Zum.

“I don’t like the look of that, it’s coming from Guardian.” Casval’s voice crackles through over the radio, most of the Minovsky interference having cleared now that the two cruisers aren’t dumping the gremlin-esque particles all over nearby space, “...And heading to Zum.”

“More Federation soldiers?” Garma asks, flipping his pod about slowly to get a better view of the bulbous ship. It’s a converted cargo vessel with a reinforced hull, one of the Federations countless support vessels of various types that have accumulated over the long decades - you don’t know the class name, but you know what it is.

“That’s a heavy transport. Tanks, guntanks, APCs - nothing good for riot control.” You set your Zaku’s monoeye to track the vessel, the main screen of your cockpit suddenly filled with the vessel as it zooms in upon it. Bendigo. The name means nothing to you, probably some place on Earth barely anyone knows exists. “There’s going to be more blood in the streets. Hundreds dead with that kind of firepower, thousands if they keep sending more - I don’t think anyone is going to back down, they’re going to turn half of Zum into a battlefield at this rate.”
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>>5985981

“...We can’t let them keep getting away with it.” Casval’s voice is chillingly calm, you’ve heard him like this before when he’s talking about the Zabis, but rarely the Federation, “Something has to be done.”

“My father and Gihren are handling it.” Garma replies nervously - he’s been around Casval for long enough, and in enough field exercises, to recognize that tone as well, “What else can we do?”

“We can act, we’ll follow through with the plan we discussed at the academy.” Casval replies immediately, “The Federation is sending those tanks to kill our people - they’re defenseless if the Federation is giving up on peace entirely. We have to remind them that we’re not weak anymore.”

“They think we’re just here for decoration.” You find yourself feeling quite a lot like Pahlavi must have earlier when you ignored her interception - The Federation thinks of the entire Zeon Defense Force like that, they must. Or at least enough of the generals do; you have reason to believe Revil knows better, he left quite the impression even with a brief meeting. “What are you proposing?”

“We finish this cleanup today,” Casval answers, “And request Dozle deactivate our unit. Once the order goes through and we’re cadets again, we raid the armories and motor pool at the academy - at dawn, we take the space port and capture the Federation officers there.”

…Things were bound to come to a choice like this someday.

>[COMMENCE THE DAWN REBELLION]. There will be a brief planning step, adjustments can be made.
>[TRY TO STOP CASVAL]. Through talk, or an alternative plan.
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>>5985983
Oof, this is gonna be a hard one. Feddies are already mobilized and suppressing the riot but the students are also already prepped for a fight. On one had it'll help galvanize our people against the federation, on the other it could spiral out of control and kick off the OYW before we're really ready. And I doubt it'll be strictly
>[COMMENCE THE DAWN REBELLION].
Fuck it, game time boys.
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>>5985983
>[TRY TO STOP CASVAL]
>Suggest that instead of taking the offensive, we put ourselves in a self-defense situation. Something that's truly damning to the Federation as a whole and gives us reason to demand more Spacenoid freedom.
Given how Feddies like Pahlavi are around, I don't think it's impossible to find something or have the Federation overstep.
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>>5985983
>[TRY TO STOP CASVAL].
Talk to him, it's still too early and we're trying to stay out of Gihren's way specifically. Doing this would both be seen as stepping on his toes and it might even piss off Degwin if he thinks that this runs counter to his interests.
And I might be jumping the gun or thinking too far forward/too pessimistically but one of the non-Gihren Zabis might have to die at some point in the future to get Degwin demoralized.
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>>5986034
>one of the non-Gihren Zabis might have to die at some point in the future to get Degwin demoralized.
>only one
Total Zabi death.
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>>5985983
>[TRY TO STOP CASVAL]
We’re not ready for a war the mobile armor isn’t done beam weapons aren’t fully figured out training isn’t fully finished etc it’s too early
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>>5985983
Also we should imply about how an immediate war will help the Zabis' image.
Can we use our newtype powers to communicate with Cas more in detail? Since Garma is still around and such.
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>>5986040
I agree, fellow Deikunist, I'm just trying to get inside Felix's head to keep him in character. To Eart- I mean Sieg Zeon!
>>5986051
>Also we should imply about how an immediate war will help the Zabis' image.
Maybe this is the way to go to dissuade Casval, either use this or getting in Degwin's way as the initial argument, and the other one as a back up. We know he doesn't care if Gihren alone looks bad.
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>>5985983
>[COMMENCE THE DAWN REBELLION].

Fuck it, We ball.
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Just as a reminder, since I know some anons aren't as familiar with the setting as others: In the Origin timeline, the Dawn Rebellion (in late 0077) does not actually trigger the One Year War. It is called the start of the war, but this is not meant literally - the war did not properly begin until slightly over one year after it the 'rebellion' occured, instead beginning with the massive fleet actions and nuclear/gas/colony exchanges of the one week battle in January of 0079. That's when the mutual multi-billion civilian kill counts get racked up by both sides, wiping out half the human population of the Earth Sphere.
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>>5985983
>[TRY TO STOP CASVAL]
We want to try our hardest to NOT follow the train of events that leads to the OYW as much as possible. This won't be the spark that launches the war early, but the Dawn Rebellion is a critical stepping stone to it.
>>5986025
>Suggest that instead of taking the offensive, we put ourselves in a self-defense situation. Something that's truly damning to the Federation as a whole and gives us reason to demand more Spacenoid freedom.
And I'll put my vote behind this idea here. We need to engineer a scenario that places maximum blame against the Federation, and ensure we come out with a stronger footing than just having military forces removed from Guardian Banchi, something that allows us to increase our personal popularity with the people of Zeon without being a "glorious offensive action" that Gihren can use.
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>>5985983
>[COMMENCE THE DAWN REBELLION].
C'mon lads it'll be fun.
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>>5986062
>spoiler
based?
>Maybe this is the way to go to dissuade Casval, either use this or getting in Degwin's way as the initial argument, and the other one as a back up. We know he doesn't care if Gihren alone looks bad.
I'm not really sure if he cares about what Degwin or the rest of the Zabis think, other than in how it can help him kill them. I feel like mentioning about how this could go against Degwin's interests will dissuade Garma more than Casval, which could probably (hopefully) help.

>>5986080
I agree. And while doing something separate from the Gihren's and/or Kycillia's influence might be almost impossible, we could hopefully be able to pull something off if we play our cards right.

>>5985983
>>5986025
Also to add a bit more on what I was saying, we can't make it seem like we're disagreeing with Casval here if we're trying to dissuade him. Arguing with him won't get us anywhere.
Basically I think we should agree with Casval's end goal in this situation.
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>>5986140
The key is that we, the Deikun side of the family and to a lesser extent our affiliated Zabi allies like Garma and Dozle, come out as the stars of a defensive action, as opposed to playing into Gihren's rhetoric by engaging in a preemptive offensive action.
I'm thinking we need to go to the defense of the rioters, and stand in the firing line for a while. If we can provoke the Federation into attacking us directly and forcefully, we'll give our little student rebellion a strong casus belli while also appearing as a more moderate, caring bloc in contrast to the warhawks.
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>>5986169
>I'm thinking we need to go to the defense of the rioters, and stand in the firing line for a while. If we can provoke the Federation into attacking us directly and forcefully, we'll give our little student rebellion a strong casus belli while also appearing as a more moderate, caring bloc in contrast to the warhawks.
That's actually a really good idea.
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>>5986169
>>5986170
We can still use parts of Casval's plan if we do this. I mean we could even have it done as soon as the Dawn Rebellion was meant to happen.
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>>5986169
Yea, thats probably a good idea. A line of cadets to hold back the tide.
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>>5986140
>I'm not really sure if he cares about what Degwin or the rest of the Zabis think
It's not about caring what Degwin thinks, it's about getting in the way of Degwin's plans when (we suspect) he's more than willing to snuff out a Deikun who gets in his way.
Speaking of family, it's been a bit since I read the other threads but Zenna is in our class right? >>5986169
This is a good idea for if this is going down.

I wonder what the real Quattro Bajeena is up to.
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>>5985983
>[TRY TO STOP CASVAL].

>>5986080
>>5986169
+1, this plan may eventually lead to the revival of the Deikuns as a unique force in the public eye. If not precisely that, then this is still definitely a good step towards that in any case.
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>>5985983
>>[TRY TO STOP CASVAL]. Through talk, or an alternative plan.

With this plan >>5986169
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I'll leave voting open until the morning.

Just so you know, because Felix would be painfully aware of it: forcing yourself into a defensive fight is inviting MUCH greater risk to himself and the other cadets (and his siblings+newtype pilot candidates) since it would gives Federation forces time to prepare. A surprise attack gives your forces the initiative and would likely result in many Federation soldiers not even being awake or armed - forcing their hand is MUCH likelier to turn very bloody, wherever it is done. The optics of a defiant stand to protect civilians with the Federation as the (mostly) undisputed aggressor vs. pre-emptive defense of civilians (on another colony) is up for anons to debate.
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I appreciate y'alls support of my idea, but as Contolist said : >>5986243
We could be sacrificing a lot with this plan. If we do decide to go for it, we're going to need to find some way to spring a trap on the Federation, or its going to be bloodbath. And as politically advantageous as it could be for us, its a moot point if we get too many of the cadet force killed.
Building on my idea of tricking the Federation into striking first, we need to find a way to bring some kind of force onto the Federation's flanks, or ideally, their rear, in order to hit them from behind before they savage our frontline too badly.
We should hold Casval back for now, and try to find a way to position some kind of heavy firepower, preferably mobile suits, somewhere out of the Federation's sights, so they can jump them once they fire the first shot. If that isn't possible, we'll have to rethink the plan.
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>>5985983
>>[COMMENCE THE DAWN REBELLION].
The time for being peace loving fags has gone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuVnZZ1sFIc
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>>5985983
Fuck it. This vote is brought to you by contolists lore clarification. I would love to create more support for zeon, but we are already improving our situation compared to canon by massively increasing BEAMU development with Gil, more streamlined war gear procurement and (potentially) more importantly curbing some of Garmas wunderwaffen autism. Wasting time chasing the Gundam gave feddies precious time to mass produce more gyms, instead now we might have him focused on crushing more important strategic targets. Gundam rampaging would be painful for our side but the damn thing can only be in one place at one time. And faster beam development combined with the fact that we low key have 2 chars AND an improved newtype core of pilots means we could get a chance to destroy it before Amuro gets enough time to grind XP for piloting without over investing man hours into chasing the white whale.
And risking a blood for our side sounds like massively increasing the chances for our fellow cadets dying. This is the worst because the best OYW result is zeon victory+Zabi death. And to achieve the latter we need a powerful inner circle to not only survive the OYW but also have the competence to ice the zabis when given the chance. So we need our team to get war XP and a good chunk of material improvement is already under way.
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>>5986480
>>5985983
[COMMENCE THE DAWN REBELLION]
I forgot to paste the vote like a tard.
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>>5985983
>>[COMMENCE THE DAWN REBELLION].
LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
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>>5985983
After sleeping on my idea and considering this >>5986480
I've decided to rescind my previous >>5986080
and instead vote for >[COMMENCE THE DAWN REBELLION].
If we can adjust the Dawn Rebellion to be more heroic (and focused on ourselves instead of Garma), that would probably be a wiser choice than attempting my riskier plan from last night.
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>>5986043
Since this won’t start the war and since our plan may put the cadets in to much danger I’ll change my vote to
>[COMMENCE THE DAWN REBELLION].
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One more hour to vote.

You did ask to do more things with Casval. This is what you meant - right?
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>>5986526
Based monkeys paw QM. The only thing i do not like here is the fact that after the rebellion there eill be a bunch of time spent moping about muh tragedy snd muh waste of human life in front of the press/normies for good boy points.
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>>5986514
>>5986508
>>5986492
>>5986481
>>5986469
>>5986090
>>5986065
>>5986017
Commence! Wins, writing.

>>5986034
>>5986211
>>5986214
Stop!
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>>5985983
>>5986025
>>5986169
+1
Caution? Never heard of it.

>>5986526
>spoiler
YES!
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>>5986570
Kek
Not like my vote changed the outcome lol
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>>5986526
I like Casval if for no other reason than him helping us not be so scared of taking chances.
I still regret we didn't have a psychic detective episode on Luna.
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>>5986612
It would have been very fun, but at least some spy stuff got to happen on Side Seven. And might happen again.
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21:20, 10th December UC 0077
Zeon Military Academy on Guardian Banchi, Side Three (Republic of Zeon)


In the dark of one of the normally unused briefing rooms, freshly liberated from the clutches of a Federation instructor - who is on vacation, of all things - you have gathered the most leading cadets of all three class years. The only ones of import though are already well known to you, entirely from your own year and family - Yourself, Casval, Artesia, Vivima, and Garma. No one else will question a word of the plan that is being devised, if you speak it together. Standing around a table displaying a digital map of Guardian colony’s spaceport and the surrounding landscape, you have helped to draw up a battle plan over the last few hours - with some assistance from Blare.

In the broad strokes it is very simple. Weapons and equipment, including what heavy vehicles the academy possesses, will be seized from the armory and motor pool in a few hours. All cadets will form into their usual squads and platoons from field exercises, though the companies of each class year will be somewhat mixed - the first years are going to be predominantly manning crew served weapons and artillery, while the more experienced second and third years will press the attack into the spaceport. There are five targets within the spaceport city that must be seized or damaged beyond use; the spaceport itself, the Federation headquarters, the barracks, the armories, and the motor pool. Scouts observing the city right now are still confirming that there are few armed soldiers, despite the increased patrols and presence. Most of the Feddies are not expecting a fight, and are asleep already - they still should be when the attack is launched at dawn. Outside of the city, three more targets have been discussed but no firm plan has been agreed upon yet. If there are no convincing objections, they will be part of the plan.
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>>5986668

The first is a Federation controlled communications station out in the countryside of the colony, Guardian colony’s most important radio and television broadcasting center. Vivima has proposed that a small team seize the station so that a message can be broadcast throughout the colony and hopefully beyond - something to let the colony, if not the wider Earth Sphere, know what is happening and to remain calm and indoors until control of the spaceport and city have been established. Casval and the others agreed this was prudent to help prevent widespread chaos across the colony when battle commences.

The second is the Federation Salamis-class cruiser Sybota, which is currently both jamming and physically blocking most communications to and from Guardian colony. This was also Vivima’s idea. Artesia was not fond of it, but Casval and then eventually Garma came around to the idea. Viv has proposed that a single pilot, or a pair, take a pod out to your unarmed and disguised Musai-class cruisers which are still near the colony, and sortie with your Zakus to engage the cruiser and any other ships that interfere. The intent is to force the ship away from the colony’s communications hub, not destroy it outright, so that the message from the seized communications station can reach out across the Earth Sphere, and footage of the fighting can be broadcast as well.

Third and finally, there is the matter of Dozle. He’s not a part of this plan - all of your family, Garma and Vivimia included, agreed that he would not approve of the plan. Though he deactivated the cadet units less than a day after pressing them into service to clear the debris, he has been too busy to ask in much detail as to why the request was made. High command is still abuzz with information about Federation movements and trying to organize a response. Dozle will still need to be distracted before and during the plan, his authority is great enough to risk dissuading the other cadets, and it is best that he is surprised. A high ranking officer in Zeon’s self defense force cannot be suspected of organizing this act of rebellion, he must be caught as unaware as the Federation instructors and officers surely will be.

Preparations for treatment of the wounded, Zeon, Federation, and civilians, are already being made by Artesia and the other cadets undergoing medical training. Many casualties are expected, on the Federation side especially, but she has made sure there is a commitment to halting egregious waste of life. You know even this doesn’t sit well with her, but she’ll go along with things.
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>>5986669

But where will you be, Felix Zos Deikun, at this dawn of a new age for the Sides? And do you have any amendments to suggest to the plan?

Your place in the plan:
>You will fight beside Casval, leading other experienced cadets equipped with flight packs - your goal is nothing less than storming the Federation HQ and forcing a surrender. Fighting will be intense, you trust no one but yourself to watch his back.
>You will help seize the radio station, and make sure that whatever broadcast Vivima has concocted isn’t pure Gihrenism.
>You will make the arduous journey out to your ship in a normal suit with a flight pack, possibly with another pilot, sortie in the Zaku(s), and force the Sybota and any other Federation vessels out of position or destroy them if you absolutely must.
>Write-in. Is there some other way you would like to aid the plan?

Objections to parts of the plan:
>No, this is acceptable - get to it.
>Write-in. This will lead to discussion with other characters. Felix may not be successful in altering the plan.

Suggestions to add to the plan:
>No, this is acceptable - get to it.
>Write-in. This will lead to discussion with other characters. Felix may not be successful in altering the plan.
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>>5986670
1st Preference
>You will make the arduous journey out to your ship in a normal suit with a flight pack, possibly with another pilot, sortie in the Zaku(s), and force the Sybota and any other Federation vessels out of position or destroy them if you absolutely must.
2nd Preference
>You will help seize the radio station, and make sure that whatever broadcast Vivima has concocted isn’t pure Gihrenism.

I'm not especially thrilled about using Zakus here as the feddies will probably take more interest in them but dealing with the cruiser is pretty important. Might as well go out ourselves and do it right.
Objections:
>No, this is acceptable - get to it.
Suggestions:
Whoever our own biggest kool-aid drinker is should be the one to do the broadcast. Doing it ourselves isn't preferential as it'll paint a target on our back from Girhen and Kycilia.
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>>5986670
>You will help seize the radio station, and make sure that whatever broadcast Vivima has concocted isn’t pure Gihrenism. (1)
Something tells me that it's pure Gihrenism.

>You will make the arduous journey out to your ship in a normal suit with a flight pack, possibly with another pilot, sortie in the Zaku(s), and force the Sybota and any other Federation vessels out of position or destroy them if you absolutely must. (2)
Putting this one second because, besides Casval and Vivima, not sure what other pilots would be able to pull this off without being fried by the Salamis' mega particle battery.

Objections:
>No, this is acceptable - get to it.

Suggestions:
>Suggest Vivima be the one to sortie against the Sybota.
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>>5986670
>You will fight beside Casval, leading other experienced cadets equipped with flight packs - your goal is nothing less than storming the Federation HQ and forcing a surrender. Fighting will be intense, you trust no one but yourself to watch his back.
>>Write-in. Send Garma and Artesia to the broadcast station and Vivima to sortie against the Sybota.
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>>5986670
>>5986684
+1
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>>5986679
>other pilots.
Anavel or Izumi are the obvious non Deikun/Zabi choices and ridiculously talented. Tiff, Zenna, or Tryphosa could also probably do it, with wildly varying degrees TOTAL FEDDIE DEATH.

>>5986674
>biggest kool-aid drinker
Who do you think that would be? I'm curious to hear who players would trust (even if it doesn't happen).
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A good way to persuade Viv to be flying instead of sitting on the radio is make the argument that's she's one of the best pilots around. Finally prove that a Zabi woman is just as capable to fight as any man.

>>5986759
>Who do you think that would be? I'm curious to hear who players would trust (even if it doesn't happen).
If it was just one person then maybe Blare? But Garma and Artesia would probably be good enough to cancel each other out and not let things get too Gihren-y, even if Artesia would like to be doing nurse work instead.
I might be forgetting someone.
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>>5986670
1)
>You will fight beside Casval, leading other experienced cadets equipped with flight packs - your goal is nothing less than storming the Federation HQ and forcing a surrender. Fighting will be intense, you trust no one but yourself to watch his back.
2)
>You will help seize the radio station, and make sure that whatever broadcast Vivima has concocted isn’t pure Gihrenism.
Difficult to choose my preference with these two options.

Suggestions:
>Write-in:
>Suggest Vivima be the one to sortie against the Sybota.

>>5986759
Probably Blare. Maybe Rix as a co-host, sounds like fun.

>>5986778
>A good way to persuade Viv to be flying instead of sitting on the radio is make the argument that's she's one of the best pilots around. Finally prove that a Zabi woman is just as capable to fight as any man.
I was about to say that seizing the radio would also involve fighting, but compared to doing a sortie that's nothing. Honestly we could easily say Vivima would be putting herself as a 'support' role by just sitting on her ass in front of the radios when her flying leadership skills could help the Spacenoids more.
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>>5986670
1)
>You will help seize the radio station, and make sure that whatever broadcast Vivima has concocted isn’t pure Gihrenism
2)
>You will make the arduous journey out to your ship in a normal suit with a flight pack, possibly with another pilot, sortie in the Zaku(s), and force the Sybota and any other Federation vessels out of position or destroy them if you absolutely must.
Suggestions
>Suggest Vivima be the one to sortie against the Sybota.
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>>5986670
>>5986778
I'll change my vote to
1)
>You will fight beside Casval, leading other experienced cadets equipped with flight packs - your goal is nothing less than storming the Federation HQ and forcing a surrender. Fighting will be intense, you trust no one but yourself to watch his back.
2)
>You will help seize the radio station, and make sure that whatever broadcast Vivima has concocted isn’t pure Gihrenism.
-Suggestions
>Suggest Vivima be the one to sortie against the Sybota.
>Whoever our own biggest kool-aid drinker (or drinkers) is should be the one to do the broadcast.

>>5986793
Yeah, this is a big event and we need to make sure we don't bungle it up. She's honestly one of the best suited to do the sortie against the Sybota. I mean it was also her idea.
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>>5986670
>>5986811
Dammit, didn't link the proper vote. I'm changing from >>5986695 to >>5986811
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>>5986670
>You will help seize the radio station, and make sure that whatever broadcast Vivima has concocted isn’t pure Gihrenism.

>Send Vivima and whoever else is our best pilots that aren't Tryphosa. Taking the Sybota out of the picture was her idea, and she's one of the best pilots here (and too Gihren-y to be manning the radio)
>Bring along Tryphosa and possibly Blare and Tif to the Radio Station, if they can be spared. Tryphosa is very convincing even when you don't hear her in person after all, and she has perfect knowledge of our plans and goals, and what should and should not be said.
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>>5986759
>Who do you think that would be? I'm curious to hear who players would trust (even if it doesn't happen).
I'd absolutely trust Izumi or Blare to do it properly if we asked and I'm sure Tiff and Rix would at least give it their best shot. I just don't remember if we have any genuine Deikun ideologues in our camp or not.
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>>5986670
>>5986793
Support.
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>>5986832
Sorry to double post this but I'll clarify that the other pilot besides Vivima should be Izumi, or barring that, Anavel.
Also, suggestions:
>Taking the Sybota hostage should be priority. That means not blowing its bridge to pieces. A cruiser detonating next to the colony would be bad news bears. Retreating would be preferable.
>Under absolutely no circumstances should the enlisted Federation soldiers be mistreated in any capacity. Our beef has to be with their officers, not the rank and file.
>Can the worker zakus be commandeered?
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>>5986670
>>You will help seize the radio station, and make sure that whatever broadcast Vivima has concocted isn’t pure Gihrenism.


Suggestions to add to the plan:
>Write-in. This will lead to discussion with other characters. Felix may not be successful in altering the plan.

Suggest Viv to lead the fight against the Salamis vessel. Let her know that trying to conceal the capabilities of the zaku is a pirority so direct action versus the ship should be a bad idea. Fortunately, we have been busy collect megatons of scrap from the collection recently. A big ball of scrap flying directly at them, either thrown with momentum or pushed by zakus from behind to keep it on target and get the ship to actually move should be sufficient for our purpose.
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Voting will be open until tomorrow morning. THE DAWN OF ZEON.

I'll try to make sense of everything then. Seems like almost everyone wants to push Viv towards direct violence so far. Not the choice I expected, but she's definitely more than qualified to fly the mission.
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>>5986759
>Anavel
Oh yeah he's here too. Living in the Delaz Fleet aged that guy like milk, jeez. Speaking of Char-style aces I'm surprised Johnny Ridden hasn't shown up at one of the many Zabi-Deikun Family Picnics we've participated in yet. Once he gets on the simp grind we'll have four out of five top Zeon aces from the OYW... Then it's just a matter of pulling Shin Matsunaga out of the continuity paradox he lives in, I imagine it's agony.
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>>5986946
Shin is around, the opportunity to have him be one of Felix's pilot bodyguards was passed up in thread five. Oguz even recommended him, though Felix had no idea who he was either. Johnny is already around and simping for Kycilia, Felix hasn't ever interacted with him.

Felix has a thing for redheads, and Kycilia likes younger blondes - absolute DISASTER was barely avoided in the early threads.
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>>5986974
Interacted with him directly.* He is vaguely aware of his existence thanks to Viv.
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>>5986974
Especially after the attempted flirtings. lmao.
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>>5986980
>attempted
It was successful, she was amused but into it.
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>>5987050
I thought the stuff like her lying on the bed was to fuck with us.

Guess our actions to quickly prove to be a useful asset put a bullet into that pretty quickly.
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>>5986935
Maybe she will be fried by the salami and a second pilot would get the kill.
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>>5986674 (2nd option)
>>5986679
>>5986798
>>5986832
>>5986893
Radio.

>>5986684
>>5986695
>>5986793 (Radio)
>>5986811 (Radio)
>>5986836 (Radio)
Casval.

We have a tie, I will give it two hours for a tie breaker.

>>5987056
It definitely was also that.
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>>5986935
>>5987151
Really making me second guess myself here Contolist. How about we bring Vivima and Tryph to the radio station and send Blare&Tif/Izumi&Anavel to the Sybota instead? Not encouraging her violent tendencies is probably smart, but I really don't want her on the radio.
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>>5987151
Just put my vote for the Radio then, with the suggestion to have Vivi go and take out Sybota and either Garma and Artesia or Blare and someone else join us.

>>5987157
>Really making me second guess myself here Contolist.
He tends to like doing that. Just look at the secret weakness.
Also please lets not have Viv anywhere near the radio to influence, she's unironically one of the most influential Zabis (I think she called herself the people's Zabi at one point?) when it comes to propaganda she probably got that from her big brother.
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>>5986674 (2nd option)
>>5986679
>>5986798
>>5986832
>>5986893
>>5987179
>>5986836 (2nd option)
>>5986793 (2nd option)
Radio station wins, writing. There will be an attempt to persuade Viv to handle the Sybota, that'll be its own conversation.

>>5987179
Vivima was (is?) a colony pop idol in her spare time for awhile, she is immensely popular though mostly for innocuous reasons. She openly and proudly espouses Gihrenism as well, but she's been too busy establishing her proto united maintenance plan and herding the cats that are Zeon's military industry to be touring with Gihren for well over a year now. The rest of her time is eaten up with the academy, mobile suit training, and Tryph/attempting newtype stuff. Spice in a bit of Kycilia shenanigans and you have a good idea of her schedule. Casval is the one going around to speeches with Gihren now, though of course it is purely with the intent of establishing his own power base politically while pretending to be a 'useful tool'. Gihren's arrogant enough that it is working so far, but it's a delicate dance - it doesn't take much to be perceived as a threat again.
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>>5986670
>You will help seize the radio station, and make sure that whatever broadcast Vivima has concocted isn’t pure Gihrenism.

>No, this is acceptable - get to it.
>No, this is acceptable - get to it.

Sorry was hospitlzed so couldn't vote sooner.
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>>5987198
>Casval is the one going around to speeches with Gihren now
Huh, I actually would've never guessed.

>>5987203
Don't die anon.
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“...I’ll lead the team seizing the radio station.” You say while examining the digital map, pointing with a finger toward the green forested hills where the broadcast compound lies before looking up to the others assembled in the briefing room. Blue eyes meet violet, Viv tilting her head slightly as she considers the idea, a small grin already beginning to spread, “Vivima, I believe you’re the most qualified to sortie and handle the Sybota.”

Her smile grows very proud, and she laughs warmly as she replies, “Am I now? I’ll take that as an admission that I'm the better pilot… But I was hoping we could both take the broadcast compound, and one of the pilots you’ve been training can handle forcing the ship. Anavel would be my pick.”

“I appreciate the vote of confidence, but Federation defenses are always lax, it won’t be hard. I doubt they even have their point defense systems powered on.” Anavel remarks from off to the side of the room, arms crossed and his face a mask of total confidence - you have no doubts that the silver haired cadet is good for it as well, he’s bested you a number of times in the sims and is overall one of the top pilots you’ve found. No newtype potential you’ve felt yet though; he’s just that good, similar to Izumi.

“It wouldn’t help them if they were, but I agree with my brother that Vivima is the most qualified - A Federation captain is less likely to open fire on a Zabi, I've seen it firsthand.” Casval chuckles before looking back down to the map, examining the broadcast compound just as you have been, “We’re going to need as many rifles as we can take to the city, the radio team should be small.”

“Agreed.” Vivima replies, you and a number of the others in the room echoing the sentiment in similar ways. It only makes sense, there aren’t likely to be more than a handful of guards. Viv continues on as the chorus of agreement dies down, “A show of unity is paramount though, and I'm confident the Sybota won't be an issue for our better pilots. Both halves of our family should be part of the radii broadcast to show Zeon’s growing strength, and also cadets from each Side, as well as Luna… Do we have any Earthnoids or Martians?”

You don’t miss that she’s just elevated the Zabi(-Deikun) family to the same level or even above the Sides.

“...We do, and one from the Mars colonies.” Blare replies, looking away from a notepad he’s been writing on during the meeting and adjusting his glasses slightly, “I’ll find them… if that’s the plan.”

Ah, good old Blare - he takes orders from you, not Viv.
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>>5987241

“Make sure you do, they’ll be needed. I’d like to get a representative from as many parts of the Earth Sphere and beyond as possible, we already have our Jovian.” Vivima takes Tryphosa’s hand in her own as she speaks, and through your bond with Tryphosa you can feel the turbulent clouds of Vivima’s mind part; her words are in earnest, “At dawn, we’ll be creating a symbol for all who seek freedom from the Federation’s grip. Felix, come with me, I’d have my closest friend by my side for this. Garma and Casval will be the faces for the cameras, but we will be the voices… Artesia, I suppose that leaves you as the heart?”

Your sister rolls her eyes at that, but still smiles - she refrains from commenting. You can readily sense that she’s satisfied with her role in the operation. The public seeing her as a healer rather than a soldier would be beneficial, both to soften your family’s image somewhat after staging an armed revolt and also just for Artesia’s own sake - not due to any weakness, but simply because you care for her.

>”Garma and Artesia could go, perhaps that would be a stronger message.” They’re together - Want a message of unity? There’s one.
>”...I like the sound of that plan, Viv. We’ll go together then. I’ve already got a representative for Riah in mind.” …Maybe Viv is changing? Tryph has been working on her for months now, but it’s been awhile since you’ve been to do much with her besides sim training and factory tours.
>Write-in. (Anything to stop her?)
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>>5987242
>”...I like the sound of that plan, Viv. We’ll go together then. I’ve already got a representative for Riah in mind.” …Maybe Viv is changing? Tryph has been working on her for months now, but it’s been awhile since you’ve been to do much with her besides sim training and factory tours.
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>>5987242
>”Garma and Artesia could go, perhaps that would be a stronger message.” They’re together - Want a message of unity? There’s one.
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>>5987242
>”...I like the sound of that plan, Viv. We’ll go together then. I’ve already got a representative for Riah in mind.” …Maybe Viv is changing? Tryph has been working on her for months now, but it’s been awhile since you’ve been to do much with her besides sim training and factory tours.
I think this'll be better for the future war effort in the long run.
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>>5987242
>”...I like the sound of that plan, Viv. We’ll go together then. I’ve already got a representative for Riah in mind.” …Maybe Viv is changing? Tryph has been working on her for months now, but it’s been awhile since you’ve been to do much with her besides sim training and factory tours.
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>>5987242
>”Garma and Artesia could go, perhaps that would be a stronger message.” They’re together - Want a message of unity? There’s one.
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>>5987242
>”...I like the sound of that plan, Viv. We’ll go together then. I’ve already got a representative for Riah in mind.” …Maybe Viv is changing? Tryph has been working on her for months now, but it’s been awhile since you’ve been to do much with her besides sim training and factory tours.
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>>5987277
>I think this'll be better for the future war effort in the long run.
Unironically speaking fully becoming a Zabi would be better for Zeon's war effort.
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>>5987242
1)
>Ask for Blare and Tiff to come with instead.
2)
>”Garma and Artesia could go, perhaps that would be a stronger message.” They’re together - Want a message of unity? There’s one.
Saying that, however, I like this idea more.
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>>5987242
Damn this girl, she's got a real silver tongue. We should've pushed her off that mountain when we had the chance. I don't believe for one second that she's changed, or ever will, regardless of what Tryph says.
Unfortunately, I can't think of a good rebuttal, and none of the options appeal, so I'll abstain. If we're lucky, we might have a chance to get her killed or injured in the fighting. Anything to keep her off the radio.
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>>5987242
>”Garma and Artesia could go, perhaps that would be a stronger message.” They’re together - Want a message of unity? There’s one.
I like Vivima's plan more, but the whole "maybe she's changed" mentality without showing any concrete actions to support it is a deal breaker.
Also to hopefully keep her off the radio.
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>>5987242
>”Garma and Artesia could go, perhaps that would be a stronger message.” They’re together - Want a message of unity? There’s one.
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>>5987307
>She's got a real silver tongue
For us and our Newtype lover.
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>>5987331
The only thing that concerns me about killing her off is that Tryph won't be able to accept it. Unfortunately, I rate Vivima as far more dangerous to us right now than Gihren or Kycilia.
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>>5987336
>Tryph won't be able to accept it.
She'll come around eventually. Especially if Viv makes it to the OYW and Tryph gets to see how fucked up the Zabis really are.
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>>5987336
>>5987341
if people didn't fucking betray Tryph, and went with a DISGUSTING earthnoid woman we wouldmn't need to worry about that,.
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>>5987341
The problem is that frankly it looks like Vivima is going to need to die within the next few hours and not mid-OYW after she's gotten her war crime on. Hopefully Tryph will understand that Vivima and her mental influence are too dangerous and can't be allowed to continue, but I'm not hopeful about that.
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>>5987307
>>5987347
I can understand being wary of viv especially with her newtype awaking on the horizon but what in the last post made it a priority to kill her right now? I feel like this is jumping the gun especially since we don’t know how tryph will react and we’ll be the last know person with her a fact garma would know(information that would get to Gihren and Kycilia) it’s way to messy and rash to do something now
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>>5987363
It's just my own opinion, but the reason is that I think it would be a truly horrible idea for her to be the one on the radio, spreading her Gihrenist garbage using us and the cadets as set pieces. It would be an enormous detriment to our attempts to position ourselves as a bloc separate from the Zabis. On a more prosaic level, Vivima is a dangerously influential newtype, capable of of manipulating Felix mentally with frightening ease, and if she fully awakens it will only get worse.
Ultimately, we're walking into a warzone. If a grenade happens to fall into Vivima's cover, that just bad luck.
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>>5987376
>If a grenade happens to fall into Vivima's cover, that just bad luck.
Oh look, martyr Vivima Zabi for the whole of spacenoid kind to rally behind. Thank you Zabis for leading us in glorious revolution.
>>5987347
What's worse, viv having a small portion in a large group of reps talking over the radio or her becoming the martyr of Zeon as a whole? She's the favored younger sibling, getting her killed 'accidentally' by feddie soldiers will be a wonderful way to have the entire Zabi family unite.
>>5987345
A set back for sure but not an insurmountable one to get upset about. This is Gundam, both are equally likely to die during the war.
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>>5987400
The one bonus of her dying now is that we would be first to know, and thus could use her death for our purposes during the broadcast. If we shape the dialogue around her death right it can play right into our hands. This glorious daughter of Zeon, dying for Deikun's cause of lifting humanity up from Earth.
Meanwhile, if we let her on that radio she's going to completely steal the show. The unfortunate fact of the matter is that she is far more charismatic than Felix is, and that damn newtype mindfuck power of hers means she'll be mentally manipulating us into playing directly into her ideology. We'll be cast into the role of supporting her and Gihren across the entire Earth Sphere, the death knell of all of our work so far.
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>>5987425
>We'll be cast into the role of supporting her and Gihren across the entire Earth Sphere, the death knell of all of our work so far.
You're too focused on establishing a competing power dynamic with substantially fewer political resources. We should be subverting the existing power structure for our own benefit. In other words, we should be a Stalin and not a Lenin.
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>>5987400
>Oh look, martyr Vivima Zabi for the whole of spacenoid kind to rally behind. Thank you Zabis for leading us in glorious revolution.
Cas martyred Garma in canon and it didn't make the Zabis unite enough to stop killing each other. If anything Viv is their linchpin.
I bet there will be less infighting between the Zabis as long as Viv's around, which is very bad. I don't see her wanting to betray her family in any circumstance.

>>5987242
>”Garma and Artesia could go, perhaps that would be a stronger message.” They’re together - Want a message of unity? There’s one.
I agree with subverting their structure.
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>>5987434
Allowing the existing power structure to continue unchallenged is whats going to make the OYW the slaughter that it is in canon. It's entirely too dangerous to continue playing the long game when we're already this close to the war.
And did you forget about how powerful of a newtype she is? Her mental manipulation is an existential threat far beyond Kycilia or Gihren's terrestrial efforts. She is simply too dangerous to be allowed to live any longer, especially during a major political turning point like this.
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I have serious doubts we could kill her without earrings suppisions from The rest of the family and we haven’t discussed this with Artesia or casval I’m pretty sure they would want to be consulted before taking a serious step like this
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>>5987446
I'm sure both of them will understand when we explain.
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>>5987440
>Allowing the existing power structure to continue unchallenged is whats going to make the OYW the slaughter that it is in canon
It's going to be a slaughter one way or another if we don't kill ALL the Zabis before it kicks off.
>It's entirely too dangerous to continue playing the long game when we're already this close to the war.
I disagree. The war is the best opportunity to make moves and take over the existing power structure. If we do anything major before hand it'll leave Zeon too weak to make any meaningful advances against the Federation. And yeah, shitloads of people are going to die. Best way to stop that is to not let Zeon gas or nuke everything that moves in the first week of the war.
>And did you forget about how powerful of a newtype she is?
Forget? We barely interact with her enough to know she has potential. Your kneejerk reactions aren't proof of some existential threat.
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>>5987446
As long as she dies in a sufficiently believable way, and we use her death to establish the maximum amount of political capital that we can for ourselves, it won't matter. Garma and Dozle will never suspect anything, and Gihren and Kycilia won't be able to simply off us. Degwin is simply irrelevant.
Unfortunately, we no longer have the luxury of time. The discussions can happen after the fact.
>>5987450
>It's going to be a slaughter one way or another if we don't kill ALL the Zabis before it kicks off.
Removing Vivima before the war occurs means that she can't play a part in making that slaughter worse.
>If we do anything major before hand it'll leave Zeon too weak to make any meaningful advances against the Federation.
And if we go into the war without having enough of a political foothold we'll be easily swept aside by Gihren once he reaches the pinnacle of power he has during it.
>Forget? We barely interact with her enough to know she has potential.
Are you an idiot? We don't interact with her because everytime we have she's nearly mindfucked us into going along with her every whim. She's the most powerful newtype in Zeon that isn't Felix or Tryph, the only thing holding her back is that she hasn't awakened properly yet.
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>>5987452
>Removing Vivima before the war occurs means that she can't play a part in making that slaughter worse.
Man if we can find a way to make that happen without her becoming a martyr I'm all for it. But we're on the verge of a massively public event. Killing her here is only going to add fuel on the fire.
>And if we go into the war without having enough of a political foothold we'll be easily swept aside by Gihren once he reaches the pinnacle of power he has during it.
And how do you suggest we gain our own political support? I'm sure Casval has been doing what he can but how do you expect us to rival Gihren's political power without first subverting it?
>We don't interact with her because everytime we have she's nearly mindfucked us into going along with her every whim
Please explain how reasonable suggestions and a genuine attitude are mindfucking? And here's a suggestion, we can just space her when the entire world isn't about to have their eyes on us.
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Something also tells me that Felix is going to be incredibly resistant to the idea of killing Vivima, given his past thoughts on it, so if he's going to do that, then he'll need a very good compelling reason to go that far. I'm not sure this broadcast is going to be strong enough in Felix's mind to make him consider taking such an action seriously.
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>>5987455
Having her go missing isn't a half bad idea actually. If she just vanishes during the fighting, that would solve most of our problems right there. Rix and Tif should easily be able to overwhelm her as long as she's separated from the group.
Stick her body in a dumpster, throw in a couple grenades, set whats left on fire and nobody will be any the wiser.
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>>5987460
Already better than just accidenting her in the coming fight. Plus we've got a whole ass year to figure it out before the war starts. Lots of things can happen in that amount of time.
>>5987459
>I'm not sure this broadcast is going to be strong enough in Felix's mind to make him consider taking such an action seriously.
Yeah we do have to stay in character about it. Cas, on the other hand, could be nudged in a certain direction pretty easily.
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>>5987460
While Rix and Tif are our friends I wouldn’t trust them to be apart of something like this I doubt they would follow through if we finally have to do this the less that know about it the better plus as >>5987459 said Felix isn’t cas he probably wouldn’t have the resolve to go that far based off the broadcast alone
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>>5987461
Ultimately what I see here is that we agree she's going to have to die. Personally, I believe eliminating her sooner rather than later, lest those newtype powers awaken is just the safer option. This is surely as good a time for her to disappear as any.
>>5987463
Then we do it all ourselves. We have a gun, and we're a man. Dumping one girls body into a dumpster and destroying it should be within our capacity to pull off. As to if it's in character or not, I'll let Contolist be the judge of that.
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>>5987464
>Ultimately what I see here is that we agree she's going to have to die.
Absolutely. I think the closer to the OYW we get the better, and best if it happens during. That way the other Zabis will have a harder time reconciling her projects and connections before we can do it for ourselves.
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>>5987242
>”Garma and Artesia could go, perhaps that would be a stronger message.” They’re together - Want a message of unity? There’s one.
I decided to vote for this anyway, even if I don't like it. Anything is better than letting Vivima be on that mic.
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>>5987478
But doesn't this option basically solidify the Deikuns and the Zabi's as being intertwined in the public eye? Wouldn't this severely cripple any attempts at further distinguishing our family?
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>>5987480
As long as Vivima is kept out of the public eye, we remain distanced from her, and the Dawn Rebellion isn't used as a vehicle for Gihrenism, that's a price I'd be willing to pay.
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>>5987247
>>5987277
>>5987281
>>5987298
Agree.

>>5987271
>>5987290
>>5987300 (2nd)
>>5987315
>>5987322
>>5987478
Garma+Artesia. Wins, writing.
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“Garma and Artesia could go, perhaps that would be a stronger message.” You suggest before giving Garma and your sister a quick look. Garma smiles nervously at the suggestion, which is confusing; why? “If the goal is to show unity, they’re the best match we have.”

“You’re a very good match,” Vivima addresses the two of them warmly, and she clues into Garma’s nervous look at once, focusing more of her gaze upon him, “But neither of you are singers.”

“Singing?” Artesia questions, tilting her head slightly, blue eyes narrowing a touch, “What does that have to do with the broadcast?”

“I’m planning to sing, what else?” Vivima shrugs, lifting her hands palm up, “We all have our part to play. Garma has command of the operation once it’s underway, Casval is leading the assault on the Federation headquarters, and you are organizing medical treatment and emergency services during and after. Felix and I will handle the radio.”

Artesia nods at that, and you struggle to think of an objection that won’t draw immediate suspicion - It’s hard to find something unreasonable in what she’s saying, but a large part of you fears she’s going to use this as a vehicle to push Gihrenism… But a song? That’s not very Gihren, that’s just Viv being herself - her real self, she doesn't show that side much after taking on so many state responsibilities. There’s some angle to it, there must be, but you don’t feel any ill intent - that might be the issue though, Vivima truly believes she’s doing the right thing. But what if she’s right in this case? She's always shared your instinct to unite people, usually your own families...

“And you’ll sing? This doesn’t seem like the time or place for that.” Anavel comments, always a bit of a bolder cadet than the others and daring to butt back into the Zabi-Deikun discussion.

“The right song can lift a soul from gravity’s reach. People need to hear it.” Tryphosa speaks quietly, but her words carry across the room; for a moment you feel the strength of your bond deepen, that all too familiar timeless sensation returning once again - you think of her song so many months ago, when you all snuck off from the Flanagan institute to sing karaoke… It’s a fond memory, and with Tryph on board you’re finding it even harder to argue against the idea. What can you say?
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>>5987572

“Which song?” You finally ask, a few other cadets in the room quietly discussing things among themselves.

Viv meets your gaze before replying, some faint connection sparking across unseen spaces once more, the impression of something that could have been, and perhaps still could be, or perhaps already is but beyond this time, “Memories of Earth.

“That sappy old love song?” Tiff asks hoarsely from behind Blare; she’s been smoking this whole time, as have a few other cadets, and lights up another as she ask her question, “Trying to make everyone cry? We’re gonna be plugging Feddies full of lead, not asking them to dance.”

…Tiff might not get it, but you do. It’s a song about a colonist waiting on their love back on Earth to join them in the Sides, an old song from the first generation of colonization when many people in the Sides were forcibly selected to be moved from Earth through lotteries run by the Federation. Closing your eyes for a few heartbeats, you consider the song. Everyone across the Sides has experienced that longing, you have, or even if they’re too young they know many family members or friends who have. The Federation is cast in a bad light, but it isn’t calling for their deaths, just for loved ones - everyone, in fact - to leave the earth and live in space, but to still cherish memories of the time they spent there. Even Elena, who normally doesn’t listen to that kind of music, is very fond of it. Plenty of Earthnoids understand - lots of families have been broken up by the distance to the Sides and beyond.

Dammit, it’s perfect. You open your eyes, words failing to form into an objection. Of course Viv wants to sing it herself instead of using a recording, and you know she can pull it off well, but besides some self promotion it’s… neutral, or leaning Deikun even. Hell, it might be more peaceful than your father’s words, he could get very fired up at times and you’ve seen the text of his final speech…

>”...That’s very fitting, Viv. I believe it’s time we speak publicly about Newtypes as well, that should put people in the right mindset to think beyond Earth’s old ways.” An old song to herald a new dawn for mankind. Vivima must understand this is not a time for factionalism, she chose a song from even before your father’s writings let alone Gihren's. [Commence]
>”That could work… Can we speak in private for a few minutes, Vivima? Tryphosa, you should come as well.” …There’s nothing you can think of to say here in front of so many other cadets, but perhaps you can corner Vivima and learn more of her intentions? Change things, perhaps, if she’s still planning to spread Gihrenism.
>Write-in.
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>>5987575
>”That could work… Can we speak in private for a few minutes, Vivima? Tryphosa, you should come as well.” …There’s nothing you can think of to say here in front of so many other cadets, but perhaps you can corner Vivima and learn more of her intentions? Change things, perhaps, if she’s still planning to spread Gihrenism.
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>>5987575
>”That could work… Can we speak in private for a few minutes, Vivima? Tryphosa, you should come as well.” …There’s nothing you can think of to say here in front of so many other cadets, but perhaps you can corner Vivima and learn more of her intentions? Change things, perhaps, if she’s still planning to spread Gihrenism.
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>>5987575
>”That could work… Can we speak in private for a few minutes, Vivima? Tryphosa, you should come as well.” …There’s nothing you can think of to say here in front of so many other cadets, but perhaps you can corner Vivima and learn more of her intentions? Change things, perhaps, if she’s still planning to spread Gihrenism.
I didn't realize she was this slippery with her words and so stubborn in her desires. Christ, maybe she is the biggest threat like some anons have been saying.
Hell I bet this could be an attempt to 'wholesome' her way into making us part of the Zabis and (knowingly by her or not) turn our backs on Casval. I can see Felix getting cornered himself and falling for her words deeply, he's neither ruthless nor driven enough to resist.
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>>5987575
>”That could work… Can we speak in private for a few minutes, Vivima? Tryphosa, you should come as well.” …There’s nothing you can think of to say here in front of so many other cadets, but perhaps you can corner Vivima and learn more of her intentions? Change things, perhaps, if she’s still planning to spread Gihrenism.
I hope Admiral Coliny or General Gopp stuff Viv in a space cum jar a la Hilda Bidan sooner rather than later.
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>>5987575
>"Why sing it yourself?"
She is going to fuck with Felix's head with that song isn't she.
Will we even be able to do anything about it?
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>>5987575
>”That could work… Can we speak in private for a few minutes, Vivima? Tryphosa, you should come as well.” …There’s nothing you can think of to say here in front of so many other cadets, but perhaps you can corner Vivima and learn more of her intentions? Change things, perhaps, if she’s still planning to spread Gihrenism.
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>>5987601
>Felix getting cornered himself and falling for her words deeply
If Vivima doesn't convince him Tryph will. There's really no winning here.
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Voting will be open until the morning.
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>>5987575
>”That could work… Can we speak in private for a few minutes, Vivima? Tryphosa, you should come as well.” …There’s nothing you can think of to say here in front of so many other cadets, but perhaps you can corner Vivima and learn more of her intentions? Change things, perhaps, if she’s still planning to spread Gihrenism.
She really just has us dead to rights here. How I wish we'd shoved her off that mountain.
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Two more hours for voting, got some errands to run but I should have time around lunch.

>>5987601
This must be another step in her master plan. Next thing you know she might trick you into doing karaoke again, the horror!
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>>5987998
>>5987621
>>5987606
>>5987601
>>5987587
>>5987578
Cornering Viv, writing.
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“That would work very well…” You admit, the idea working almost too well really; she’s knocked it out of the park with this one. Managing her image from afar has always been something you were aware she does well, but every since you came to Zeon there hasn’t been much need for it - and you know the real Vivima, flaws and all. She’s a very different person to what she projects publicly. This will work, and it will work well - you feel in your bones, you feel it in your bond, and that… that might not be a good thing, if she twists the message. “Can we speak in private for a few minutes, Vivima? Tryphosa, could you come as well?”

“Of course, Felix.” Vivima agrees at once before addressing the room of cadets, though mostly Casval and Garma, “We’ll be back, keep working on the plan.”

A minute or so later, down the hall a ways and in another room, you find yourself alone with Vivima and Tryhosa. Viv takes a seat atop a desk, legs crossed and arms folded, ignoring the chair beside it - she’s taller than you when sitting atop it. Tryphosa remains standing, as do you.

“What’s the matter, Felix?” Vivima questions, a quizzical look taking her.

>”I wanted to discuss what we’re going to say tomorrow at the radio station. What are you planning to say in your message before the song? We should make sure our words complement one another’s.” Just do a bit of a GIhrenism check, it’s been awhile since you’ve discussed politics outside of newtypes and preparation for the war.

>”I don’t think you should sing, Viv, playing a recording would work too - this should be bigger than any one person.” She seems to understand that already with asking for cadets from across settled space, but maybe you can press home the point?

>”Tryphosa should sing, she was awakened before either of us.” She will be the herald of a new dawn for mankind.

>Write-in.
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>>5988402
>”Tryphosa should sing, she was awakened before either of us.” She will be the herald of a new dawn for mankind.

Put the Jupiter CBT in-charge.
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>>5988402
1)
>”I don’t think you should sing, Viv, playing a recording would work too - this should be bigger than any one person.” She seems to understand that already with asking for cadets from across settled space, but maybe you can press home the point?
2)
>”I wanted to discuss what we’re going to say tomorrow at the radio station. What are you planning to say in your message before the song? We should make sure our words complement one another’s.” Just do a bit of a GIhrenism check, it’s been awhile since you’ve discussed politics outside of newtypes and preparation for the war.
3)
>”I don’t think you should sing, Viv, playing a recording would work too - this should be bigger than any one person.” She seems to understand that already with asking for cadets from across settled space, but maybe you can press home the point?
>”Tryphosa should sing, she was awakened before either of us.” She will be the herald of a new dawn for mankind.
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>>5988402
>”I wanted to discuss what we’re going to say tomorrow at the radio station. What are you planning to say in your message before the song? We should make sure our words complement one another’s.” Just do a bit of a GIhrenism check, it’s been awhile since you’ve discussed politics outside of newtypes and preparation for the war.
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>>5988402
1)
>”I wanted to discuss what we’re going to say tomorrow at the radio station. What are you planning to say in your message before the song? We should make sure our words complement one another’s.” Just do a bit of a GIhrenism check, it’s been awhile since you’ve discussed politics outside of newtypes and preparation for the war.
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>”Tryphosa should sing, she was awakened before either of us.” She will be the herald of a new dawn for mankind.
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>>5988402
1)
>”I don’t think you should sing, Viv, playing a recording would work too - this should be bigger than any one person.” She seems to understand that already with asking for cadets from across settled space, but maybe you can press home the point?
>”Tryphosa should sing, she was awakened before either of us.” She will be the herald of a new dawn for mankind.
2)
>”I don’t think you should sing, Viv, playing a recording would work too - this should be bigger than any one person.” She seems to understand that already with asking for cadets from across settled space, but maybe you can press home the point?
3)
>”I wanted to discuss what we’re going to say tomorrow at the radio station. What are you planning to say in your message before the song? We should make sure our words complement one another’s.” Just do a bit of a GIhrenism check, it’s been awhile since you’ve discussed politics outside of newtypes and preparation for the war.
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>>5988402
>”I wanted to discuss what we’re going to say tomorrow at the radio station. What are you planning to say in your message before the song? We should make sure our words complement one another’s.” Just do a bit of a GIhrenism check, it’s been awhile since you’ve discussed politics outside of newtypes and preparation for the war.
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>>5988402
>”I don’t think you should sing, Viv, playing a recording would work too - this should be bigger than any one person.” She seems to understand that already with asking for cadets from across settled space, but maybe you can press home the point? (1)

>”Tryphosa should sing, she was awakened before either of us.” She will be the herald of a new dawn for mankind. (2)

I can't comb through the other threads right now but Tryph's "dad" has some connection to Scirocco, right? I almost don't want her to do it, not because of that, but because it seems to lean very close to Contolism, which Gihren and/or Degwin might see as a threat.
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Suggesting using a recording and that Tryphosa sing are mutually exclusive options, anons. The first option is a statement that no one should sing because this should be a symbol larger than the people who are a part of it; Tryphosa is a person despite what her father might think.

>>5988430
Allow me to retrieve the one and only reference from the archive, from when Tryphosa was briefly the POV character in thread two:
Artesia laughs, but you barely hear her over the low roar of rain, focusing instead upon the strangeness of the water soaked hike. Deep shadows surround you, reflected light peeking through dark clouds and high tree branches. A cold wind sends a shudder through you, instinctive fear. Wind means a leak or breach, or… it would on the fleet, but these colony cylinders are so vast compared to a ship’s interior, even the Jupitris. You move closer to Felix, and he puts his arm around you, pulling you closer still - Gravity vanishes, any closer and you’ll float. You pull tighter to test the theory, but remain firmly on the ground. You smile anyways, but a flash of anxiety from Felix turns it quickly into a frown. Enough stalling. They need to be ready. You need to be ready. Can you… can you even prepare for this? What if you react like the others to commands… it never happened before but…

Tryph and Artesia are available as alternate characters at times, if the right circumstances are met. Tryph is much easier to meet the requirements for.
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Its more important that we figure out once and for all where her political allegiance lies.
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>>5988442
>Suggesting using a recording and that Tryphosa sing are mutually exclusive options, anons. The first option is a statement that no one should sing because this should be a symbol larger than the people who are a part of it
Whoops, sorry QM.

>>5988402
>>5988405
I'll amend this vote to being
1)
>”I don’t think you should sing, Viv, playing a recording would work too - this should be bigger than any one person.” She seems to understand that already with asking for cadets from across settled space, but maybe you can press home the point?
2)
>”I wanted to discuss what we’re going to say tomorrow at the radio station. What are you planning to say in your message before the song? We should make sure our words complement one another’s.” Just do a bit of a GIhrenism check, it’s been awhile since you’ve discussed politics outside of newtypes and preparation for the war.
>”Tryphosa should sing, she was awakened before either of us.” She will be the herald of a new dawn for mankind.
3)
>”Tryphosa should sing, she was awakened before either of us.” She will be the herald of a new dawn for mankind.
4)
>”I wanted to discuss what we’re going to say tomorrow at the radio station. What are you planning to say in your message before the song? We should make sure our words complement one another’s.” Just do a bit of a GIhrenism check, it’s been awhile since you’ve discussed politics outside of newtypes and preparation for the war.
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>>5988402
>”I wanted to discuss what we’re going to say tomorrow at the radio station. What are you planning to say in your message before the song? We should make sure our words complement one another’s.
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>>5988403
>>5988430 (2nd)
>>5988459 (3rd)
Tryph.

>>5988409
>>5988410
>>5988422
>>5988478
>>5988413 (2nd)
Discuss. Wins, writing.
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“I wanted to discuss what we’re going to say tomorrow at the radio station.” You answer her easily, taking a seat atop another desk to speak more as the equals you are - the room has many such large desks, usually being used for more complicated exams, “What are you planning to say in your message before the song? We should make sure our words complement one another’s.”

“Oh, I see, so we’re here to iron out the details then? Finally resolve all the differences in our views?” A hint of a smile plays across Vivima’s lips, just enough to tease, “I’m glad you spoke up then. Tryphosa, what do you think should be said? You’ll be speaking as well.”

“It is something I have pondered with care, our words will carry great weight tomorrow.” Tryph takes a seat as well, beside you rather than atop a separate desk; it’s pleasant to be so close, both in body and soul, but you both understand to never push much further than this. Tryphosa’s jealousy of Elena remains, it likely always will, but you’ve both mostly come to terms with the situation and Elena and Tryph get along well enough now, despite Elena’s continued lack of anything like newtype potential. They both care for you too much to throw all of your lives into chaos, but you feel the tension beneath the surface. “I believe my words will be short, I have my sisters to think on, and this message will surely carry out to the fleet and far beyond to even our most remote outposts - If we do it well, it will be an expression of a dream, an ideal given words but I hope not limited by them. A chrysalis in which the dreams of many will be united, even before they fly off to join the rest across time.”

You find yourself almost entranced listening to your bond’s words, feeling her intent at the deepest levels of your soul - when she gets like this, mystical and misty eyed, you cannot help but feel the greatest affection.

“A vessel to escape the Earth’s gravity.” You say, understanding entirely, finding Tryphosa’s hand held in your own, fingers intertwined, despite never willing the the action. A physical imitation of the far deeper connection you share, a bond beyond space or time itself. “...We need to be careful in its making. It will come into being in the minds of others, of the rest of humanity, but we lay down the first planks of that ship.”

“...What is it like?” Vivima watches the two of you, violet eyes twinkling in something like awe, a look of profound curiosity softening her features, “To be bonded?”

“You know that is a question we cannot answer.” Tryphosa replies perfectly for the both of you, “And yet you always ask. You desire a bond, as you desire me.”
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>>5988750

…Well, there is that. Viv’s cheeks redden, but she doesn’t deny the truth of the words. You’ve known what’s been going on between them for many months now but just try not to think about it regularly; Tryph has essentially been stringing Vivima along, not quite romantically involved but skirting tantalizingly close to being so, just out of reach. And if there is anything Vivima cannot stand, something she will obsess over, it is a person that is beyond her she wishes to draw closer - she is still like that with you, always trying to draw you into her plots and plans, though business keep you apart more often than not recently.

In many ways, what you have asked Tryphosa to do, to manage Vivima, is cruel both to Tryph and Viv. Tryphosa was hardly innocent, but she strove to be good, stained by the hardships and realities of her father’s abuse but consciously choosing to remove herself from it as much as she could without forsaking her sisters. Tryphosa has always been manipulative and jealous, especially with her guards who she often resents, but she knew it was wrong on some level. Now though you have purposefully cast her as a manipulator, a temptation she has always felt but resisted, causing her to abuse her powers little by little. She teaches Vivima of newtypes, but has shepherded her away from an awakening, restrained her potential with little distractions, the right words here, a whisper in the ear or a kiss there…

“I do.” Vivima replies quietly, looking down to the ground in a way you haven’t seen her do since… well, probably since she was pretending to be Mink. This is genuine though, you’re certain of it. “And far more. But I know it isn’t safe, not with your sister. When it happens, I hope we’ll understand one another better - that is true for you too, Felix. What are you planning to say?”

…She still hasn’t answered the question yourself. Slippery Viv, she must speak like this without even realizing what she’s doing - A Zabi’s upbringing, but she in a way it is no different than yourself. With Tryphosa’s help you have realized something profound.

You are mirrors held up to one another, Vivima could have been your bond. She still could be.

That familiar timeless feeling is in the space all about you once more, and the time and distance that separates you from what could have been does not exist for a moment. Somewhere, many years ago, she pressed against a large door and listened to Degwin, Gihren, and Sasro discuss your father's heart attack.

>”You first, Viv. I’m the one who asked.” Come on, spit it out, Viv. She’s worse than trying to get information out of Casval sometimes.
>”...I’m going to speak about newtypes, and my father’s predictions.”
>Write-in. (What are you planning to say?)
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>>5988764
>>”You first, Viv. I’m the one who asked.” Come on, spit it out, Viv. She’s worse than trying to get information out of Casval sometimes.

>You are mirrors held up to one another, Vivima could have been your bond. She still could be.
Huh, I remember Tryphosa basically saying (don't remember if it was bluntly stated or not) the opportunity to bond with Viv had passed. Or was that just for flying, and now we have other bonding opportunities?
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>>5988764
>"I don't think I will say anything."
>”You first, Viv. I’m the one who asked.” Come on, spit it out, Viv. She’s worse than trying to get information out of Casval sometimes.
Damn gotta watch out for her. We're literally just casually talking and we're bonding more with Viv.
Also we should tell Tryph she doesn't have to look after Vivi. It's bad for everyone involved.
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>>5988764
>”You first, Viv. I’m the one who asked.” Come on, spit it out, Viv. She’s worse than trying to get information out of Casval sometimes.
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>>5988776
Thread six:
“She will bond with someone, if fate allows it.” Tryphosa lowers her red hood with her free hand, the other still holding loosely to your own, rain slick fingers entwined. Her hair is lovely, kept short but still managing to suit her well - Her cheeks redden, but she stays focused upon your inquiry. It’s best if neither of you linger in such fleeting thoughts. “It is not the same feeling, Felix…”

You nod, a peculiar familiarity has long accompanied Vivima, but never that timeless and unearthly feeling you often sense when near Tryphosa - Your bond. A connection beyond even time itself.

If such a connection was possible I believe the chance has passed us by… Passed you by. She thinks very highly of you.” Tryphosa’s words… Gladden you? Or do they? There’s a sting to them, being admired by a Zabi is nearly an insult. ”Perhaps in another life you could have bonded.”

“Can a person not have more than one?” You ask.

“We’re not truly newtypes.” The words hurt, but she’s right.

“...No, not fully realized ones.” You understand at once. Father’s predictions were never for something as limited as individual bonds, however deep they might be, and even Tryphosa is still far from his ideal vision. For now. “You don’t think I can bond with anyone else?”

“I cannot know.” Tryphosa replies hesitantly, treading across very uncertain ground. Another door swishes open ahead of you, and for a moment you’re back outside and passing through the rain storm on another platform. Soon you will be inside again. “There are many mysteries of our nature that I have yet to even begin to explore, even with my sisters. …Mysteries I’ve barely even begun to dream of. I share a deep connection with them, but it is nothing compared to our own.”

“...I’d really prefer a yes or a no.” You reply, but she’s answering as well as she can. A faint smile plays across her face as you reenter the institute and head downward now, toward the ‘older’ sections of the honestly still quite new facility. “There’s something off about her that I can’t place.”

“Perhaps it’s because she looks like your assistant?” Tryphosa offers out, and instantly you feel silly. Of course that must be some of it, you’ve very briefly toyed with the idea before but Vivima’s long unnoticed similarity to Mink still baffles you. It’s almost as if it was being blocked from your perception somehow, and that of your family as well. Everything is more confusing around Vivima.

“I missed it too at the announcement.” Tryphosa continues, sensing your inner thoughts, “I was focused on Elena, and she was focused on you… Vivima has yet to awaken, but I don’t believe it will be much longer. It would only take a small push. Do you love her?”
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>>5988764
>…Well, there is that
This dumb lesbian needs G3 gas correction NOW.
>”You first, Viv. I’m the one who asked.” Come on, spit it out, Viv. She’s worse than trying to get information out of Casval sometimes.
I'm starting to think Zeon Zum Deikun willed himself to die solely to escape the Zabi family.
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>>5988764
>”You first, Viv. I’m the one who asked.” Come on, spit it out, Viv. She’s worse than trying to get information out of Casval sometimes.

Though I will say that the urge to just cut the bullshit and directly attack the newtype elephant in the room with
>"Your family has been doing its best to destroy my father's ideals. You think Gihren and Kycilia won't do the same to me when I try to fulfill them?"
is growing stronger. In fact, count that as a vote for just that. Fuckin' Zabis man.
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>>5988764
>”You first, Viv. I’m the one who asked.” Come on, spit it out, Viv. She’s worse than trying to get information out of Casval sometimes
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>>5988802
Huh, interesting. So it's mostly vague, but Tryph thought it wasn't possible anymore. Yet the newtype-text in this update is leaning more on the side that there's still a chance.
Thank you QM for posting this, it's much appreciated. Do you manually look for past snippets of lore in the threads using ctrl+f or do you have someplace you put all potentially important stuff that might come up again?
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>>5988764
>>”You first, Viv. I’m the one who asked.” Come on, spit it out, Viv. She’s worse than trying to get information out of Casval sometimes.
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>>5988854
Ctrf+f and having a pretty good memory mostly, though I take physical notes sometimes too.
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>>5988764
>”...I’m going to speak about newtypes, and my father’s predictions.”
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>>5988776
>>5988798
>>5988813
>>5988834
>>5988974
Viv first. Wins, writing.

>>5989027
Newtypes and Deikun.

>>5988781
Viv+Nothing.

>>5988817
Reeeeee ZABIS GET OUT!
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>>5989175
damn, missed the vote
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“You first, Viv. I’m the one who asked.” You turn the question back on Vivima, holding out one hand to gesture toward her as you try to keep the conversation on track, “I’m the one who asked.”

“I suppose you were.” She gives a slight grin, hints of red still fading from her cheeks but growing again as she looks to Tryphosa; there’s something uncertain in her violet eyes, hints of indecision you see even if her cloudy mind conceals them. Her voice is sweet as honey, but unsteady, as if she was struggling against a great weight bearing down on her. “...I was planning to call for resistance against the Federation across the Sides, to reject their control by any means and follow Zeon’s example… But it doesn’t feel right. I think I will speak on newtypes instead.”

“It doesn’t?” You ask half in surprise, unused to hearing such hesitation from Vivima. She gets like this sometimes when she drinks, she confesses things, but you know her to be entirely sober now - hours of planning an operation don’t leave much time for drinking, and it isn’t her usual way regardless, “Isn’t that what we’ll be doing though, rejecting the Federation’s influence?”

“...Maybe it is. That’s what my brother will see,” She is speaking of Gihren rather than Dozle, you’re sure of that, “But as much foresight as he has, I’ve found his thoughts are very limited to Zeon. Everything is for Zeon, to expand Zeon, to gain allies for Zeon, to crush the enemies of Zeon, to extend Zeon’s control… his control. There is a better message to send than that, even if it is necessary for now. That isn’t the final step. Not for Zeon, not for our family.”

You exchange a glance with Tryphosa, her blue eyes filled with pride and guilt at what she’s done; many things are unforeseen, even to her far seeing gaze. Sometimes when a dream is shared, it gains a life of its own, beyond those who dreamt it.
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>>5989309

“He doesn’t understand newtypes, Felix, I have tried to speak with him on the matter - to tell him what Tryphosa has shown me, but he doesn’t grasp it.” Vivima struggles to get the words out at first, but they begin to come to her more and more easily, a fire growing in her voice, her gaze cast off on some distant time and place; for a moment you could swear you see a green light reflected in them, space and time distorting, white and yellow and pink lights flashing in the dark of space, the briefest glimpse of a thousand flapping wings, “He’s an oldtype, a visionary but not one of us, and even Kycilia only grasps at the truth to use it as a curious tool, however noble her intentions are. They cannot lead forever, their time is limited - they will destroy us if they continue on like this forever. I have to protect them from themselves. Of the Zabi bloodline, only I truly understand what must be done for our family, and our people. Perhaps Mineva will as well after me, or another. There is a narrow path before us, Felix.”

>”...I had not realized you saw things so clearly yet. What do you intend for Gihren then, when these first steps have finished?” You must be careful with your words, but it almost sounds as if Vivima is seeking control for herself.

>”...I was planning to speak on newtypes as well. I think we should do it together, Viv. A Deikun and a Zabi spreading the truth together for the first time in years - it’s been too long since that was really the case.” Fortune favors the bold, go right in for it. This must be an offer.

>”I have seen the path as well, Vivima. We must navigate it with care, and remain our own masters until the others see.” The path forward for newtypes is treacherous, there are already many trying to control you.

>Write-in.
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>>5989311
Hitting us hard with these choices, Contolist.
>>”I have seen the path as well, Vivima. We must navigate it with care, and remain our own masters until the others see.” The path forward for newtypes is treacherous, there are already many trying to control you.
I'll tentatively vote for this but I'd like to see other anons opinions. Any of the choices seem like a good point to wedge between her and her family.
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>>5989311
>”I have seen the path as well, Vivima. We must navigate it with care, and remain our own masters until the others see.” The path forward for newtypes is treacherous, there are already many trying to control you.
Interesting.
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>>5989311
>>5989342
>”...I had not realized you saw things so clearly yet. What do you intend for Gihren then, when these first steps have finished?” You must be careful with your words, but it almost sounds as if Vivima is seeking control for herself.
Actually I'll change to this. It might be more dangerous to talk about but I'm curious to see what her plans for her family are, since I doubt she'll help us with Casval's plans on killing them.
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>>5989311
>Write in
All of these choices have merit, so I will propose say all of them. Still, probably better to lead with
>”I have seen the path as well, Vivima. We must navigate it with care, and remain our own masters until the others see.” The path forward for newtypes is treacherous, there are already many trying to control you.
Followed by
>”...I was planning to speak on newtypes as well. I think we should do it together, Viv. A Deikun and a Zabi spreading the truth together for the first time in years - it’s been too long since that was really the case.” Fortune favors the bold, go right in for it. This must be an offer.
>”...I had not realized you saw things so clearly yet. What do you intend for Gihren then, when these first steps have finished?” You must be careful with your words, but it almost sounds as if Vivima is seeking control for herself.
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>>5989311
>”...I was planning to speak on newtypes as well. I think we should do it together, Viv. A Deikun and a Zabi spreading the truth together for the first time in years - it’s been too long since that was really the case.” Fortune favors the bold, go right in for it. This must be an offer.
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>>5989311
1)
>”I have seen the path as well, Vivima. We must navigate it with care, and remain our own masters until the others see.” The path forward for newtypes is treacherous, there are already many trying to control you.
>”...I had not realized you saw things so clearly yet. What do you intend for Gihren then, when these first steps have finished?” You must be careful with your words, but it almost sounds as if Vivima is seeking control for herself.
2)
>”...I had not realized you saw things so clearly yet. What do you intend for Gihren then, when these first steps have finished?” You must be careful with your words, but it almost sounds as if Vivima is seeking control for herself.
3)
>”I have seen the path as well, Vivima. We must navigate it with care, and remain our own masters until the others see.” The path forward for newtypes is treacherous, there are already many trying to control you.
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>>5989311
1)
>>5989382
Support
2)
>”I have seen the path as well, Vivima. We must navigate it with care, and remain our own masters until the others see.” The path forward for newtypes is treacherous, there are already many trying to control you.
>”...I had not realized you saw things so clearly yet. What do you intend for Gihren then, when these first steps have finished?” You must be careful with your words, but it almost sounds as if Vivima is seeking control for herself.
3)
>”I have seen the path as well, Vivima. We must navigate it with care, and remain our own masters until the others see.” The path forward for newtypes is treacherous, there are already many trying to control you.
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>>5989311
>>”...I had not realized you saw things so clearly yet. What do you intend for Gihren then, when these first steps have finished?” You must be careful with your words, but it almost sounds as if Vivima is seeking control for herself.
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>Kycilia only grasps at the truth to use it as a curious tool, however noble her intentions are.
>Kycilia's noble intentions
lol
whatever you say Viv

>>5989311
>”I have seen the path as well, Vivima. We must navigate it with care, and remain our own masters until the others see.” The path forward for newtypes is treacherous, there are already many trying to control you.
Be your own master. Something Felix has a hard time doing as is...
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>>5989311
This is better than I expected, but she still has that megalomania in her.
>"You talk about their noble intentions, but how noble are they? Dozle and Garma are honorable men, but Gihren and Kycilia have no qualms about how many people are hurt by their actions. That callousness is useful in a ruler in small doses, but there is nothing small about either of them." This is as close as she's come so far to admitting how deranged her brother and sister are. Strike at that crack and see what breaks.

Otherwise,
>”...I had not realized you saw things so clearly yet. What do you intend for Gihren then, when these first steps have finished?” You must be careful with your words, but it almost sounds as if Vivima is seeking control for herself.
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>>5989342
>>5989463
Path.

>>5989354
>>5989452
>>5989387 (2nd)
>>5989558 (2nd) Was tallying the votes as this one came in, good timing anon.
See clearly. Wins, writing.

>>5989382
>>5989417
All three.

>>5989384
Newtypes.
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“...I had not realized you saw things so clearly yet.” You choose your words carefully, wary of seizing too greatly on Vivima’s doubts about her older siblings roles in the future, but this is an opportunity you cannot allow to slip by - you have to ask, “What do you intend for Gihren and Kycilia then, when these first steps have finished?”

“...I” The question takes Viv off guard, her expression slightly shocked for a moment before recovering somewhat, violet eyes filling with worry, “I had not thought much on it yet. …I don’t like to think about it. Gihren’s too strong of a man to ever step down willingly.”

Strong? The word she’s looking for is stubborn, or maybe insane. But perhaps only the mad have the strength to prosper in the kind of world Gihren plans to usher in, the war the Earth Sphere is careening toward will be apocalyptic. …Of course you are planning to use the situation to your advantage as well, but you’re not ecstatic about it as Gihren is. It will be the single worst event in human history, dwarfing every other tragedy which has ever occurred all combined into one. In many ways, you will be made a villain by it, even if there is nothing which can be done to prevent it in one form or another now. There’s a small chance mankind may not even walk out of the other side intact enough to continue, civilizational collapse is unlikely thanks to protective measures that are being constructed by both sides, but it cannot be dismissed as a possibility.

“Then you would need to set him aside.” You say, trying to use softer words than something like ‘eliminate’ or ‘force him out’, she’ll understand though - cutthroat politics are, quite frankly, more her family’s area of expertise than your own. You’re more of an infiltrator, an accruer, not one to seize things suddenly. Not yet anyways. Perhaps you can seize Vivima, right now. “Kycilia as well. I know Degwin has doubts about the direction they’ve been leading Zeon.”

You guess, mostly, but it is an educated guess - mother speaks with him often, and you’ve seen how he interacts with his eldest children. There’s a stark lack of affection there, even if he remains bound by love and a growing apathy not to stop them. Degwin has almost entirely retired now, a very distant second fiddle to Gihren and with little energy of his own left to rule - Mineva has brought some measure of new life to the old prune of a man, and in his old age you suspect he regrets many of the things he has done. A realization a decade too late.
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>>5989649

“Father does… He called Gihren a monster once, under his breath, but I heard it clearly enough. I thought he was just being weak, he lost his strength after my mother died, from what Gihren says…” Viv violet eyes shut for a moment, the beginning of tears beginning to appear, her confident tone from moments before dissolving away into hesitation and a tremulous weakness, “...I’m very glad yours didn’t, Felix. You’re lucky to have her. …So is Dozle. I know she did that to try to protect you, but I think they’re good for each other.”

“They are,” You admit, still finding their marriage somewhat strange but having come around to accept the large Zabi as something of an uncle - never a father though, the Zabis killed the only man who could ever hold that title. “But we are speaking of your other older siblings. Dozle will accept a peaceful world.”

“He will. He’s a big softie.” Vivima sniffles a bit, trying to to break down entirely, a faint smile returning to her lips, “Garma too. Kycilia could be convinced, if… Well, you don’t understand her.”

“She’s a complicated woman.” Tryphosa says, not quite agreeing, but perhaps Vivima sees it as such, “It’s mostly Gihren’s fault, isn’t it?

“He…” Vivima swallows hard and looks away, arms crossed and looking miserable - those tears are flowing freely now, her face a mask of pain, “Yes. And father, and Sasro… even Dozle some. She needed a sister earlier. She isn’t like she was years ago though, trying to be like them. She’s learned.”

Kycilia learning? Ridiculous, she’s almost as power hungry as Gihren is, and just as cruel in her own way. Viv’s views aren’t just tinted by her affection for family, they’re drowning in several buckets of paint.

Viv continues unsteadily, “I think she would stop if we have won, and… and I ask her to. She loves France, after the remaining population has been moved to the Sides, maybe she could… retire there. In one of the historical settlements. Be it’s governor, maybe.”

You have strong doubts, this sounds more like Vivima trying to desperately cope with a far harsher likelihood. The ‘historical settlements’ are something you’ve heard discussed among Gihrenists before, but it was actually your father’s idea originally, that some of mankind’s historical legacy on earth should be preserved even if the species as a whole has moved far beyond it. The earth will not be entirely depopulated. Only enough will remain to remember the past, not to repeat it, a small enough footprint that the world can begin to truly heal from the destruction wrought by centuries of industry. …Kycilia living in some remote cultural village is difficult to imagine. What’s she going to do, find some man and just settle down in a castle out in the middle of nowhere? It’s almost silly, a childish hope. She's a snake, she'd die without her plots. Right?
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>>5989651

“And Gihren?” You ask, setting aside issues with Kycilia’s ‘retirement’ for now.

“...I don’t know, Felix.” Vivima looks defeated, she isn’t able to face what you know will have to be done. “A war is needed, he is our war leader… but I don’t know what comes after that for him, when I lead.”

Ah, so she’s said it directly now. There’s not escaping that Zabi megalomania, is there?

“When we lead.” Vivima emphasizes the plural.

Your eyes widen.

>”That’s a bridge we can cross when we get there. He has a role to play consolidating Zeon for now, as you say.” …Gah, disgusting! Vile! You can barely stomach saying it, but Gihren is useful for consolidating Zeon’s powerbase in the short term. War is coming, and coming quickly.
>”...We?” Uh oh, what has Tryphosa done? You can feel Tyrph's guilt and jealousy welling up in equal measure.
>”You know Gihren won’t accept it. You can't ignore the truth of that, Viv, or you won't be ready when the time comes.” No, don’t let it slip away, push now - she acknowledges the issue, force her to really face it down. Damn the risks, flank speed!
>Write-in.
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>>5989653
Tryph's*
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>>5989653
1)
>”That’s a bridge we can cross when we get there. He has a role to play consolidating Zeon for now, as you say.” …Gah, disgusting! Vile! You can barely stomach saying it, but Gihren is useful for consolidating Zeon’s powerbase in the short term. War is coming, and coming quickly.
2)
>”...We?” Uh oh, what has Tryphosa done? You can feel Tyrph's guilt and jealousy welling up in equal measure.
That third option feels too good to be true. My shadowrunning senses are tingling.
I sense a trap, or at least some huge consequence that'll bite us later if Vivi's heart softens to Gihren at all. I mean he saved her life and took a bullet for her.
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>>5989653
>”You know Gihren won’t accept it. You can't ignore the truth of that, Viv, or you won't be ready when the time comes.” No, don’t let it slip away, push now - she acknowledges the issue, force her to really face it down. Damn the risks, flank speed!

Or

>>5989653
>”...We?” Uh oh, what has Tryphosa done? You can feel Tyrph's guilt and jealousy welling up in equal measure.
>”You know Gihren won’t accept it. You can't ignore the truth of that, Viv, or you won't be ready when the time comes.” No, don’t let it slip away, push now - she acknowledges the issue, force her to really face it down. Damn the risks, flank speed!

DOWN THE THROAT WE GO.
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>>5989653
>”...We?” Uh oh, what has Tryphosa done? You can feel Tyrph's guilt and jealousy welling up in equal measure.
>”That’s a bridge we can cross when we get there. He has a role to play consolidating Zeon for now, as you say.” …Gah, disgusting! Vile! You can barely stomach saying it, but Gihren is useful for consolidating Zeon’s powerbase in the short term. War is coming, and coming quickly.
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>>5989653
1)
>”...We?” Uh oh, what has Tryphosa done? You can feel Tyrph's guilt and jealousy welling up in equal measure.
>”That’s a bridge we can cross when we get there. He has a role to play consolidating Zeon for now, as you say.” …Gah, disgusting! Vile! You can barely stomach saying it, but Gihren is useful for consolidating Zeon’s powerbase in the short term. War is coming, and coming quickly.
2)
>”...We?” Uh oh, what has Tryphosa done? You can feel Tyrph's guilt and jealousy welling up in equal measure.
3)
>”That’s a bridge we can cross when we get there. He has a role to play consolidating Zeon for now, as you say.” …Gah, disgusting! Vile! You can barely stomach saying it, but Gihren is useful for consolidating Zeon’s powerbase in the short term. War is coming, and coming quickly.
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>>5989653
1)
>”...We?” Uh oh, what has Tryphosa done? You can feel Tyrph's guilt and jealousy welling up in equal measure.
>”That’s a bridge we can cross when we get there. He has a role to play consolidating Zeon for now, as you say.” …Gah, disgusting! Vile! You can barely stomach saying it, but Gihren is useful for consolidating Zeon’s powerbase in the short term. War is coming, and coming quickly.
2)
>”That’s a bridge we can cross when we get there. He has a role to play consolidating Zeon for now, as you say.” …Gah, disgusting! Vile! You can barely stomach saying it, but Gihren is useful for consolidating Zeon’s powerbase in the short term. War is coming, and coming quickly.
I agree >>5989657 vivi may have a change of heart third option is too dangerous
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>>5989653
>>5989657
I'll change my vote to:
1)
>”That’s a bridge we can cross when we get there. He has a role to play consolidating Zeon for now, as you say.” …Gah, disgusting! Vile! You can barely stomach saying it, but Gihren is useful for consolidating Zeon’s powerbase in the short term. War is coming, and coming quickly.
>”...We?” Uh oh, what has Tryphosa done? You can feel Tyrph's guilt and jealousy welling up in equal measure.
2)
>”That’s a bridge we can cross when we get there. He has a role to play consolidating Zeon for now, as you say.” …Gah, disgusting! Vile! You can barely stomach saying it, but Gihren is useful for consolidating Zeon’s powerbase in the short term. War is coming, and coming quickly.
3)
>”...We?” Uh oh, what has Tryphosa done? You can feel Tyrph's guilt and jealousy welling up in equal measure.

>>5989664
Anon do you have a preference for either of your votes?
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>>5989653
>”...We?” Uh oh, what has Tryphosa done? You can feel Tyrph's guilt and jealousy welling up in equal measure.
>”That’s a bridge we can cross when we get there. He has a role to play consolidating Zeon for now, as you say.” …Gah, disgusting! Vile! You can barely stomach saying it, but Gihren is useful for consolidating Zeon’s powerbase in the short term. War is coming, and coming quickly.
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>>5989679
My preference is in order.

I have no need for numbers made by Earthnoids.
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>>5989685
>I have no need for numbers made by Earthnoids.
Based.
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>>5989664 (We+Flank speed)
Flank speed!

>>5989668
>>5989674
>>5989678
>>5989679
>>5989682
We?+Bridge to cross later. Writing.
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Kill Zabis. Behead Zabis. Roundhouse kick a Zabi into the concrete. Slam dunk Mineva into the trashcan. Crucify Vivima. Defecate in Kycillia's food. Hit Degwin with the solar ray. Stir fry Dozle in a wok. Toss Garma into an active volcano. Urinate into a Zabi's Zaku cockpit. Judo throw Glemy into a wood chipper. Twist Zabi followers' heads off. Report Zabis to the Titans. Karate chop Axis in half. Curb stomp pregnant Zenna. Target Mars Zeon with the Gryps 2 Laser. Crush spacenoids in the true gravity of Earth. Liquefy Zabis with a vat of acid. Eat spacenoids. Dissect newtypes. Exterminate space colonies with G3 gas. Stomp Zabi skulls with steel toed boots. Lobotomize Kycillia. Mandatory abortions for Zenna. Grind Mineva's fetus in the garbage disposal. Drown Zabis in Minovsky particles. Vaporize Solomon with the Solar System. Kick Degwin down the stairs. Feed Vivima to the Blue Destiny. Slice Zabis with a beam saber.
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“That’s a bridge we can cross when we get there, he has a role to play consolidating Zeon for now, as you say. ...But what do you mean by we?” You question, the plural drawing more of your attention than it normally would. It takes Vivima a few moments to recover, and you’re left to soak up pangs of guilt and a brooding jealousy from Tryphosa. Thoughts of Elena flicker through your mind for some reason.

When Viv has finally composed herself enough to speak again, wiping away one last tear wit the side of her hand, she meets your gaze steadily - those violet eyes of hers can pierce nearly as deeply as Tryphosa’s at times, they stare right through you, “Yes, Felix, we. I… I still hope that Garma might show signs of being a newtype.”

“I don’t understand.” You furrow your brow and try to think things through; why mention that at all? “Why bring up your brother? You don’t think he could rule?”

“No. No more oldtypes. Never again, once this is done.” Vivima shakes her head, swiping away the idea with the wave of a hand, “Artesia could do it, but Garma cannot, and Casval is… Not going to accept what I am about to propose. Not really, I know he would only ever resent me.”

“...What are you about to propose?” You ask, a growing sense of dread filling you as suspicions begin to mount.

“Marriage.” Vivima replies solemnly, her eyes closing for a moment as if she were expecting to take a lash to the back, “...A political one. I know you love Elena, that’s okay. I don’t want to split you.”

You start to laugh for a moment, but that dies almost immediately; this isn’t a joke at all, not some strange Zabi prank - The offer is sincere, even if the marriage would be for show. You aren't actually married to Elena yet, even if you're about as close as you can be without crossing that line yet. You already think of her as your wife, and your wedding isn't far off... it will be mostly in secret of course, you keep her and your children out of the public eye as much as you can.

>”...Marriage? To each other? I… I don’t know, but maybe? Damn, Viv, that’s not where I was expecting talking about tomorrow to lead…” The politics make sense, but talk about a bombshell to drop. You need time to think.
>”...I can’t do that to Elena, Viv, even if it’s just for show.” …What will she do if you say no though? That’s almost as alarming as the idea itself, she sounded out of options. Maybe she would go to Casval anyways, what a horror show that would be.
>”...I’ll have to talk with Elena, but if it’s for the future then… I think she’ll understand.” She won’t like it, but pulling Vivima further away from Gihren means the eventual coup stands a great chance of success - and less risk to you son and daughter. Mother will understand at least.
>Write-in.
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>>5989809
>”...Marriage? To each other? I… I don’t know, but maybe? Damn, Viv, that’s not where I was expecting talking about tomorrow to lead…” The politics make sense, but talk about a bombshell to drop. You need time to think.
That threw me for a loop. I was expecting her to suggest marrying Tryph or some shit
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>>5989809
1)
>”...I can’t do that to Elena, Viv, even if it’s just for show.” …What will she do if you say no though? That’s almost as alarming as the idea itself, she sounded out of options. Maybe she would go to Casval anyways, what a horror show that would be.
2)
>”...Marriage? To each other? I… I don’t know, but maybe? Damn, Viv, that’s not where I was expecting talking about tomorrow to lead…” The politics make sense, but talk about a bombshell to drop. You need time to think.
However I can't help but feel like a marriage to Viv, even a political one, is going to be a bad idea.
I can't think of a funny quip to make. Incestuous royal family tree becomes the family wreath.

>>5989792
Based?
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>>5989809
>”...I can’t do that to Elena, Viv, even if it’s just for show.” …What will she do if you say no though? That’s almost as alarming as the idea itself, she sounded out of options. Maybe she would go to Casval anyways, what a horror show that would be.
huh
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>>5989809
>”...Marriage? To each other? I… I don’t know, but maybe? Damn, Viv, that’s not where I was expecting talking about tomorrow to lead…” The politics make sense, but talk about a bombshell to drop. You need time to think.
IIRC, our father also did his fair share of unscrupulous shit in order to get his political career underway-- not the least of which included leading on a rich, lonely old woman while pursuing his own goals. I think it's worth thinking about, even if it's abhorrent. Outright dismissal is only likely to make Viv more desperate. What other options do we have in turning her and stopping Ghiren and Kycilia?
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>>5989809
>>”...I can’t do that to Elena, Viv, even if it’s just for show.” …What will she do if you say no though? That’s almost as alarming as the idea itself, she sounded out of options. Maybe she would go to Casval anyways, what a horror show that would be.
I am very fucking angry.
>Make our anger and betrayal known to Tryph
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>>5989809
>>5989861
+1
But let's have it be with newtype empathy and not actually say anything.

Fuckin politics man. Glad we had Cas deal with political stuff instead of us.
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>>5989809
1)
>”...Marriage? To each other? I… I don’t know, but maybe? Damn, Viv, that’s not where I was expecting talking about tomorrow to lead…” The politics make sense, but talk about a bombshell to drop. You need time to think.

2)
>”...I’ll have to talk with Elena, but if it’s for the future then… I think she’ll understand.” She won’t like it, but pulling Vivima further away from Gihren means the eventual coup stands a great chance of success - and less risk to you son and daughter. Mother will understand at least.

>>5989792
No love for Gihren?
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>>5989809
>”...Marriage? To each other? I… I don’t know, but maybe? Damn, Viv, that’s not where I was expecting talking about tomorrow to lead…” The politics make sense, but talk about a bombshell to drop. You need time to think.
I struggle to understand what this would even do politically anyways Artesia and garma will eventually marry Dozle and our mother are a thing the family is already going to be linked in the public eye what does a third marriage do?
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>>5989809
>>5989812
Just make mine
>”...I can’t do that to Elena, Viv, even if it’s just for show.” …What will she do if you say no though? That’s almost as alarming as the idea itself, she sounded out of options. Maybe she would go to Casval anyways, what a horror show that would be.
The other anon brings up a good point. Why would this be necessary?
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>>5989809
>”...Marriage? To each other? I… I don’t know, but maybe? Damn, Viv, that’s not where I was expecting talking about tomorrow to lead…” The politics make sense, but talk about a bombshell to drop. You need time to think.

With a splash of
>”...I’ll have to talk with Elena, but if it’s for the future then… I think she’ll understand.” She won’t like it, but pulling Vivima further away from Gihren means the eventual coup stands a great chance of success - and less risk to you son and daughter. Mother will understand at least.

Could be a way to tear the Zabis apart, especially as they all reach for the crown.
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>>5989883
I’m honestly on the fence on this I’m sure Elena is not going to like this one bit but I’m kind of worried what viv might do if we decline
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>>5989809
>Marriage.” Vivima replies solemnly, her eyes closing for a moment as if she were expecting to take a lash to the back, “...A political one. I know you love Elena, that’s okay. I don’t want to split you.”
After this shit
>>5989792
This is double based.

>”...I can’t do that to Elena, Viv, even if it’s just for show.” …What will she do if you say no though? That’s almost as alarming as the idea itself, she sounded out of options. Maybe she would go to Casval anyways, what a horror show that would be.
>>5989896
>I’m honestly on the fence on this I’m sure Elena is not going to like this one bit but I’m kind of worried what viv might do if we decline
>what viv might do
Get killed by Casval for(if) fucking with the only family he has left?
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>>5989809

>”...Marriage? To each other? I… I don’t know, but maybe? Damn, Viv, that’s not where I was expecting talking about tomorrow to lead…” The politics make sense, but talk about a bombshell to drop. You need time to think.

>”...I’ll have to talk with Elena, but if it’s for the future then… I think she’ll understand.” She won’t like it, but pulling Vivima further away from Gihren means the eventual coup stands a great chance of success - and less risk to you son and daughter. Mother will understand at least.

Anon's really out here wanting total Zabi death and victory but not willing to do what is required for such a thing. Even though we've gaslight typ and our sister to do it.
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>>5989809
>”...I’ll have to talk with Elena, but if it’s for the future then… I think she’ll understand.” She won’t like it, but pulling Vivima further away from Gihren means the eventual coup stands a great chance of success - and less risk to you son and daughter. Mother will understand at least.

It's going to make the reality that we're still quite likely to have to kill her even worse, but we have to drag Vivima away from the Gihren bloc if we can. The good of humanity is far more important than Felix and Elena's personal happiness.
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>>5989811
>>5989845
>>5989874
>>5989883
>>5989886
>>5989970
Marriage? Maybe. Wins, writing.

>>5989814
>>5989861
>>5989867
>>5989885
>>5989954
Can't.

>>5989988
Talk with Elena, tentative yes.
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>>5990009
Contolist just a question, why are combinations like >>5989970 and >>5989886 considered part of the Maybe option? The latter two are basically just agreeing with the proposal, while the option itself is about an uncertain answer.
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>>5990009
Disloyal cucks lot of ya
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>>5990009
Contolist I’m a bit confused to what viv hopes to accomplish with the marriage given that Artesia and garma and dozle and our mother already exist
>>5990020
I’m mostly trying to talk with elena about it I’m expecting her to say no anyways
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>>5990024
>I’m mostly trying to talk with elena about it I’m expecting her to say no anyways
She'll probably say something along the lines of "if it makes you happy, I'll let it happen" or something like that. I'm not really expecting much resistance from her, I'd be surprised if she does show some spine with how friendly Vivi has been towards her.
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Happiness has very little to do with this arrangement. We need to undermine Gihren and Kycilia's hold on Zeon, and if marrying Vivima is what gets us that goal, then that's worth the pain.
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>>5990028
Ends justify the means, and all of that.
We shouldn't of let Glemy participate in that public family affair, it made Gihren extremely mad. I doubt he's forgiven the Deikun side of the family for that misstep.
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>>5990020
I never wanted the Earthnoid whore anyway. Also she wants total Zabi death as well.

>>5990024

The marriage is between 2 new-types and ontop of that, Viv has more lean in the crazy ladies camp of New-types. I think
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>>5990018
I assumed the hard spacing indicated alternate choices, some anons have been kind of sloppy with the alternate voting rules and it's the first thread in eight months so I'm not being too much of a stickler abour it. For the love of god please use numbers though anons, or at least an 'or'. As for the splash, it's the same reason I grouped the can't+angry newtype communication together with the other votes can't votes, it's all close enough. I read it as a slightly stronger maybe rather than a yes, since the maybe option was the primary pick and the other only a 'splash'.

If I separated them all out more strictly it doesn't change the outcome, maybe would still win.

>>5990024
Read what Viv has said in the last two updates more closely. >>5990032 Gets some of it, but it goes further than that.
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>>5990040
You mean >>5989861 and >>5989867 ? I'd argue that it's less of a passing feeling than an actual meaningful part of the decision like combining two of the votes are.
But since it's counting those two votes as 'Maybe' instead of 'Tentative Yes', and not just swerving the vote into giving the least voted option the win, I can deal with it.
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>>5990040
You'll never get me to use numbers, Letters and Numbers don't belong in the same community Teach!
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>>5990044
>less of a
*more of a
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>>5990044
Yes, those two.

>>5990046
Please use an 'or' then, or some other way to indicate alternatives more clearly. I take it that I understood your intent correctly this time?
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>>5990051
You always do boss and I always put the more important on first.
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“...Marriage? To each other?” The proposal is a complete shock, leaving you dumbfounded and blinking for a few moments, unsure of how to further respond - too many thoughts are racing through your head. The politics of it make some sense, it could even help to bring Vivima to your side, but what will Elena think? “I… I don’t know, but maybe? Damn, Viv, that’s not where I was expecting talking about tomorrow to lead. I thought we’d line up our speeches, or… Not this.”

“I know it’s a lot to ask all at once, I wasn’t planning to do it this way either….” Vivima replies hesitantly, dropping down from the tall desk, putting her at a lower height than you now. Her lips form a very nervous smile, violet eyes wide and hopeful but expecting failure. For a moment you see Mink, but it’s just a trick of the lighting. “But I’ve been considering it for months now. It’s the only way forward I can see, and… and you asked. If you need time to think it over and talk with Elena, that’s okay. I don't want to hurt her, she's a friend.”

“It’s going to take more than just some time to think, Viv,” You reply, looking down at her and then glancing at Tryphosa. You understand that this isn’t where Tryph intended this to go, she didn’t give Viv the idea, but a very small, very jealous part of her wants to spite Elena. She’s ashamed of it. “There are many things that need to be discussed. Why us?”

“We’re the only ones who fit what is needed, if there was another way I would choose it.” Vivima begins to explain more clearly, some of the megalomaniacal air about her dissipating now that she’s no longer sitting atop the desk like some odd throne, “Only newtypes have a place at the highest levels of leadership in the future we’ll create. Artesia is a newtype and I trust she will do very well, but Garma… isn’t. I hope I am mistaken, but I have never seen any indication he is. Casval… You know your brother, Felix. We’d be a disaster together, and reaching entirely beyond our family, risking splitting it apart again, would only invite worse disaster…"

Vivima takes a moment before continuing, slowly collecting herself more and more but still speaking from the heart, “Everything which has divided Zeon for the last decade was because different factions tried to lead. The purges, the assassinations, everything was because of factionalism. I want to end that prevent it from returning. We must be united, for the sake of our people and shared family. Dozle and your mother were a first step, they made us one, and Garma and Artesia may be another step, but if they have newtype children it will take years for them to come into their own and be ready to lead. Mineva, Max, Luna, Glemy - I have high hopes for them, but our people need leadership after the war. No one but us can do that... I trust you. You’re my best friend, Felix, we can save Zeon together.”
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>>5990102

She’s said it again. Are you really her best friend? That’s almost sad, but you know she struggles to connect with anyone but her biological family - everyone is either a sycophant or an enemy. Her ‘friends’ you’ve encountered before were really just acquaintances, and excluding family the closest thing she’s had to a friend otherwise would be Mink… which is very complicated to say the least, or Tryphosa, or even Artesia or your mother. You would have expected Tryphosa, with how infatuated Viv has been, but that Zabi girl has never been an easy one to read.

“...You see a very narrow path forward then, to reach a time when the next generation can take over.” In your mind the plan which Vivima has laid out is slowly growing clearer. It is a kind of newtype supremacy, softer than Gihren’s spacenoid supremacy she formerly subscribed to, though you haven’t yet heard enough to know if it is different only in degree or in kind. A royal rule to safeguard the new era. Part of you hates that, father thought the very idea of nobility was despicable... but you cannot deny that you are a more capable leader than most. Even father was almost a dictator, so strong was his cult of personality. He made many compromises to bring about the future he foresaw.... Like never marrying your mother.

“The transition of power won’t be safe for years after the war.” Vivima confirms your understanding to be correct, “The Federation isn’t the last enemy we’ll have to subdue.”

“Who else after the Federation?” You question, already guessing from the feelings emanating from your bond with Tryphosa.

“The cabal controlling the Jovians.” Your bond speaks aloud, but you can feel the pain behind her words, this isn’t easy for Tryphosa to speak on. It never has been, conflict remains deeply wedged within her heart. “My father, and Dogatie, and all the others. They want to twist the future to their whims, not guide others to it - my father still tries to call his bond back from her dreams… He may even have succeeded. Everything will be corrupted if they are not stopped.”

>”The energy fleet isn’t something to play games with, we’ll need to handle them with finesse. …We can discuss this all more tomorrow after the dust has settled, I need time to think.” [COMMENCE THE REBELLION]
>Discuss things further. ALL write-in dialogue suggestions will be considered a vote for further discussion, though only winning options will be written up. There might be a need for a run off vote to pick. Support other anons if you see something you like.
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>>5990106
>”The energy fleet isn’t something to play games with, we’ll need to handle them with finesse. …We can discuss this all more tomorrow after the dust has settled, I need time to think.” [COMMENCE THE REBELLION]
That's a can to kick if I've ever seen one.
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>Casval… You know your brother, Felix. We’d be a disaster together, and reaching entirely beyond our family, risking splitting it apart again, would only invite worse disaster…"
You know what, that's actually not such a bad idea Viv.

>>5990106
>"...I don't think Casval would be fully opposed to the idea of marrying you, even if it's just a political marriage. You've both very driven and have similar ideas about Contolism."
I want to also tell Tryphosa that she doesn't need to 'babysit' Vivima anymore, but I don't know if this is the right moment to do so. We could use newtype mindreading, but that might be risky in front of Vivi.
Reposting the vote because I did the greentext wrong.
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>>5990116
>You know what, that's actually not such a bad idea Viv.
Only problem with that is that we've already told Cas not to do something like that. Otherwise yeah, it wouldn't be a bad plan.
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>>5990106
>”The energy fleet isn’t something to play games with, we’ll need to handle them with finesse. …We can discuss this all more tomorrow after the dust has settled, I need time to think.” [COMMENCE THE REBELLION]

>>5990117
Well we already have Elena and Tryphosa, Casval didn't have anyone like that at the time.
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>>5990120
>Casval didn't have anyone like that at the time.
Felix knows Lalah exists and is Cas's potential bond, just not where and who she is specifically. We had a premonition of her in one of the scenes before the dance.
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>>5990106
>”The energy fleet isn’t something to play games with, we’ll need to handle them with finesse. …We can discuss this all more tomorrow after the dust has settled, I need time to think.” [COMMENCE THE REBELLION]

Ponderous thoughts to ponder.
Who knows, depending on how events kick off will determine things.
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>>5990106
>>5990116
+1
Fuck it, we ball.
Felix would be terrible at separating her from Gihren or at least Kycilia. This is more a job for Casval.
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>>5990122
Of course, but having knowledge of someone and having a relationship with them is completely different, and as far as we know, Cas has neither at the moment in regards to Lalah.
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>>5990126
>Cas has neither at the moment in regards to Lalah.
True, just saying that we actively told him not to do it before hand.
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>>5990117
>Only problem with that is that we've already told Cas not to do something like that.
>Hey Cas, you shouldn't marry for political reasons but I will even though you're way more committed to the plan than me
If anyone marries Vivima it should be Casval. He won't let feelings get in the way while Felix might actually become soft enough to spare Kycilia and Gihren. Killing his wife's family is something I just don't see Felix doing.
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>>5990129
>If anyone marries Vivima it should be Casval.
I 100% agree, I just don't like going back on something we've already told him.
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>>5990131
But we'd be a hypocrite if we married Vivima for politics. Which let's be real Felix will likely start developing feelings for Vivima if they do get married, he has too many doubts to not at least think about it.
And Vivima literally just gave us the reason why we should marry her, to unite the families more. Like another anon said aren't going to move her from her ideas, she'll move us.
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>>5990133
>But we'd be a hypocrite if we married Vivima for politics.
You misunderstand me then, I don't think Felix should marry her even for solid political reasons. I prefer her as a desperate femcel.
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>>5990106
>Why can't Tryphosa sing instead?
This is something I'm personally curious about.
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>>5990106
>”The energy fleet isn’t something to play games with, we’ll need to handle them with finesse. …We can discuss this all more tomorrow after the dust has settled, I need time to think.” [COMMENCE THE REBELLION]

>>5990131
>>5990129
Cas wants to KILL almost every Zabi, If the Zabi's get killed off and his 'wife' is the last one who then dies, you end up just repeating the cycle guys. We need to break the cycles. or atleast let Cas be able to act while the Viv is kept isolated and then we can easily kill her.
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>>5990145
Who says he won't kill her first?
>spoiler
No chance Felix will be able to have what it takes to kill her outright, especially if her 'marries' her.
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>>5990148
We as in royal, not we as in Felix.

Also, You kill her first and the REST of the Zabi's are gonna be asking alot of pointed questions.
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>>5990149
Honestly this makes the justification of suggesting Casval as a suitor much better, since this is something "we" can do to have her die.
>Also, You kill her first and the REST of the Zabi's are gonna be asking alot of pointed questions.
Casval got away with it when killing Garma, he can get away with it if he kills Vivima. I have to agree with the other anon here, Felix doesn't have what it takes and will do his best to protect her if she 'marries' him.
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>>5990152
you mean in canon, when they are in the middle of the war and the 2 sides of factionlism are already on fire? When they random/well known ACE/hero?

The death of Garma is vastly different in canon then this shit.
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>>5990154
I mean Cas is far more dangerous and clever than Felix. He will find the perfect situation to have her die and will likely be able to divide the family more than Felix ever could hope of doing.
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>>5990155
Cas is only that way because Anon's gimped him in certain ways, WAY earlier in threads and we are this weird middle-management thing.

no i'm not salty, Just find it funny.
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You know, now I'm not so sure what the problem is here, Felix has already made a committment with Casval and Artesia to get rid of anyone who was related to their father's death, the only real contention was from Cas about killing the rest of them, which Felix and Artesia both don't want to happen. Marrying Vivima strengthens a newtype future more than anything else, since she's already seeming to be reflective on her family's actual actions now, and with Tryph there helping along, there's no reason she can't be brought further to see more of Kycilia's issues than she currently does.
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>>5990162
I think people just don’t want to hurt Elena
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>>5990157
I'm glad we agree that Cas is the best one to trust with Zabi killing (unless I'm misunderstanding and you want Casval to be softer or something lmao).
We have to be 100% behind Casval's plans right now against the Zabis, so we can help him change in the future. And unfortunately Vivima is deeply rooted in trying to unify the families, even going so far as asking for Felix to marry her to accomplish that end. The part that I think is plausible is that Felix might buy into it if he keeps being around her, he's not as stubborn in his beliefs or plans.

>>5990162
Kycilia is far more closer to Vivima than Gihren is, this has been said many times in the past threads. And even then, we don't know if she'd go through with killing Gihren, since he did save her life.
The main issue here is the fact that Vivima is a darker mirror to Felix. Can we say that Felix would be able to kill Casval for Vivima's sake, if it came down to it? How can we expect her to do the same for us?
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>>5990165
I disagree with you saying Felix isn't sturbbon enough to stick with his Bliefs, Considering the shit his put Type and his sister through. we are just more in-line with how Kycilia operates.

I do believe Cas is the best one to kill Zabi's, I do want total Zabi death. I also have a few others i want dead, but anon's would riot

>>5990164
Nah Fuck her, She can die.

>>5990162
Most people don't want to hurt the Earthnoid lower lifeform more or less, But they also don't trust Viv very much or her attenment towards Kycilia even though its starting to sway.
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>>5990165
That scenario isn't quite what's being put forth by Vivima here, the actual question would be more like: Would Felix be able to kill Casval for the sake of a better tomorrow for humanity? Which is a much harder question to answer for Felix I'd think. I don't think it would just be a simple yes or no for him, and going down that line, Vivima either, which is why taking any opportunity to have any influence, even if it ends up both ways, can nudge the needle further the way that we want.
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>>5990164
Don't forget Felix's kids too.
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>>5990166
Are you actually serious about this Elena hateboner or is it a bit
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>>5990174
Oh i'm 100% on team fuck Elena. Its really not a bit, and I've been since we ran into her all the threads ago. I wanted Cursed CNT/NT insanity. All the others have either never came back or refuse to be vocal anymore.
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>>5990166
>we are just more in-line with how Kycilia operates.
>Felix is becoming more like a Zabi
Ah fuck, now that's something we need to change as soon as possible.
>I also have a few others i want dead, but anon's would riot
>Nah Fuck her, She can die.
Yes, well that's pretty clear who you're talking about lmao

>>5990167
>even if it ends up both ways, can nudge the needle further the way that we want.
I don't think that's a scenario which is worth it in the end. If we keep doing things for the greater good then we are no different than the Zabis, and Felix is already too much of a Zabi as is.
And to think that Felix's influence on Vivima is even comparable to the influence she'll have on Felix is something we'll have to disagree on.
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>>5990177
True lmao.

Also, We are doing this for the greater whole of spacenoids. The Zabi's are doing it for the "greater good" of the spacenoids under THEM.

Also Felix is less swayed by women I think now that he had his kids, or atleast until booze is involved.
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>>5990177
>for the greater good
I'm not saying that it would be true, but if Vivima can be made to think that her brother and sister are actively holding back the progress of humanity, and by extention herself as well, then such a scenario can be made to appear true to her, regardless of whether it's really the case or not.
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>>5990177
>If we keep doing things for the greater good then we are no different than the Zabis,
What are you smoking, that's the exact opposite of the Zabis. They're a bunch of megalomaniacal cunts. Gihren manages to rile up Zeon so much he starts an actual nuclear holocaust and gasses like half the spacenoid population in a week.
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>>5990183
Hold on now, Its like half of the ENTIRE human race and its not just Gihren. The EFF joins in on the war crimes.
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>>5990184
Correct, I'm talking specifically about how Gihren gasses feddie allied space colonies in the first week of the OYW. The nuclear exchange is what killed most of the earthnoids.
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>>5990179
>A royal rule to safeguard the new era. Part of you hates that, father thought the very idea of nobility was despicable... but you cannot deny that you are a more capable leader than most.
And Felix isn't heading in that direction? He's already starting to entertain those ideas.

>>5990180
I think you're underestimating Vivima's love for her family, as well as overestimating Felix's commitment to Casval's plan (and his father's ideas as well, since I think it's being implied he's slowly slipping away from them).

>>5990183
I probably said it in an incorrect way, but what I'm referring to is how Gihren would throw a space colony and do war crimes to secure power, while Char would throw a space colony and do war crimes because it's something he believes in. In the end the actions are pretty much identical, but the meaning behind them changes.
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>>5990193
You can have a safeguard in place, and guard against stuff without Nobility tho?
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>>5990193
>In the end the actions are pretty much identical, but the meaning behind them changes.
Ah, a horseshoe guy. How about we just don't gas and drop colonies? Kinda hard to be 'just like the Zabis' if we don't try and genocide everything that moves.
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>>5990193
I don't think it's an underestimation though. That's the point of chipping away at that love until it's fragile enough for her to at least not actively fight the deaths of Gihren and Kycilia.
I don't see any sign of Felix not committing to the plan that was agreed upon, now whether that's the same as the plan you're referring to is a different matter.
Felix still goes around quoting his father and is painfully aware of his writings, temperament, and beliefs. Simply considering a measure that would go against something his dad didn't like doesn't mean he's coming apart at the seams cause Zabi influence.
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>>5990164
I am ambivalent about hurting Elena, especially if marrying eventually neutralizes (yes also a very ambivalent way of putting that) Vivima. It could ultimately protect her and the kids if they are out of the Deikun crossfire and away from the war.

>>5990167
Felix would not be able to currently. He is susceptible to influence which is a worrying trend, especially if he did go through with marrying Vivima, but I am unsure about what activities we could put him through to reinforce his willpower.
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>>5990162
I can only think about how the Zabis will react to their precious Vivima being the side woman in a relationship lol
It'll probably be a death sentence to Elena and maybe even the half-earthnoid kids, which I'm sure at least on anon will be happy to hear.
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>>5990194
He'd be an actual prince that's married to the Zabi royal dynasty. You think Felix will be able to resist it? He's become a bit fond of the Zabi palace and generally lives in luxury with servants and political power and stuff. It reminds me of when people were shocked that Felix was starting to seriously doubt everything he believed while in the ballroom. He doesn't even object to Elena calling him a prince. Now all we need is a royal wedding to cement the two dynasties.
Tryphosa warned us that we'd slip into being a snob, and I'm inclined to believe her.

>>5990197
I agree on that.

>>5990200
I think we'll have to disagree on that front then.

>>5990201
Hang out with Casval more? Remind ourselves of how evil the Zabis are? Not exactly things we can realistically do when married to one and having to act like a loving couple in public lmao
I'm almost tempted to vote to marry Viv, just to see the new doubts that will come into Felix's mind.
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>>5990201
One of the best ways to build willpower is to actually resist things when there's not much harm in agreeing. Being fearful of being influenced can easily lead to the exact same path that being easily influenced can, so I personally don't have as much resistance to putting Felix through such trials, since that's how growth happens.
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>>5990203
This is something to be worried about too
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>>5990204
by all accounts, We are a prince. However when/how do we act a prince? Thats the key thing.

People can dress you up, But we haven't given into being one.
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>>5990028
It's this kind of thinking that ruined Char in canon.
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>>5990224
If a peasant looks like a prince, thinks like a prince, acts like a prince, is treated like a prince, marries a princess, then that peasant has become a prince. So I agree, Felix is by all accounts a prince. All that's left is the supremacist nature to start seeping in.
I have to emphasize on the warning Tryphosa gave us, Felix will eventually give in to becoming something darker and more bloodthirsty than now. All we can do is try our best to fight it and reject opportunities that push us in a more Zabi direction.
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>>5990230
Nah, thats paranoy and at the same time. She is still a juniper plant.

If you fight directly against an Oracles vision you end up uniroically in it. We will do fine as is.

Also I can't see Felix ever letting the Supremancy in.
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>>5990232
>If you fight directly against an Oracles vision you end up uniroically in it. We will do fine as is.
She offered to help in fighting it by being with her, although didn't finish her sentence because she was ashamed of entertaining those thoughts.
>I can't see Felix ever letting the Supremancy in.
Not if he actively notices it. But it'll likely be a subconscious form of thought that slowly becomes a conscious one without him realizing it.
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>>5990235
Very unlikely, and just paranoia and doomposting until proven otherwise.

Next you'll tell me Gihren is a good guy.
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>>5990242
>gihren is a good guy
Okay, now hear me out-

Don't take this seriously. Great discussion so far anons.
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>>5990242
Maybe Tryph is wrong and we'll become a blue collar worker or a space pirate, who knows.

>>5990245
Jimba was right all along!
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>>5990254
Too many tropes have people try to avoid fate and then stumble into it BY avoiding it.

So ya, I believe she was wrong.

>>5990245
I love this Gihren Zabi guy! His giving me gas for our next door neighborhood, But man it makes me super sleepy!
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>>5990255
I'm more willing to trust Tryphosa in this regard since she's more in tune with newtype mind stuff than any of us are.
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>>5990110
>>5990120
>>5990123
>>5990145
Commence! Wins, writing.

>>5990116
>>5990124
Inflict an even greater living hell on your brother.

>>5990140
I'm not sure if this is a vote, but I guess I'll tally it.

If there are some votes I missed in this giant discussion please bring them to my attention.
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>>5990205
>One of the best ways to build willpower is to actually resist things when there's not much harm in agreeing.
Because this marriage won't cause any harm to us personally (or to our family), and Felix is a mentally strong man who has never second guessed his loyalty ever.
Also the Zabis will be completely fine with this, it's not like we're ruining the life of their favourite little girl by agreeing to a loveless marriage (or at best having our heart be divided between two(three?) women).
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>>5990298
> Also the Zabis will be completely fine with this, it's not like we're ruining the life of their favourite little girl by agreeing to a loveless marriage
Yeah the more I think about this the more I’m in the no camp there’s no telling how Kycilia or gihren will respond to this and when the war kicks off we can’t really watch over Elena
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>>5990306
There was an agreement to send Elena and the kids to Solomon if it looked like a war was likely, she's only at Zeonic until then. Dozle, Astraia, Mineva, and Glemy will likely be there as well. All of that is subject to change of course, but it's what Felix expects currently.
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>>5990312
Be weird if Dozle of all people broke his promise to us.
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>>5990312
Isn't Axis already thing too?

>>5990317
Dozle likely won't kill Elena, but Kycilia and Gihren might try it. Who knows if things have changed enough for their reach to extend to Solomon.
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>>5990323
Axis is a mining place from what I'm aware.

And also Dozle wouldn't, his a good man and his married/in love with our mother. So he'd def make sure whereever she is, Shes properly guarded. hell I could see Vivi do the same shit. until we start clipping Zabi's
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>>5990323
>>5990335
You're both saying this like Kycilia doesn't have spies and bugs around the place. Dozle would happily entrust Elena and the kids to his siblings because he trusts them that much.
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>>5990337
So do you not read earlier in the thread or..? The Schism and ground-work is being laid for Dozel to not trust them and is starting to format in his brain.

Also, Kycilia won't go against her new Brother-in law.
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>>5990338
Look I love the guy but he isn't exactly the smartest.
And while he'd maybe start to not trust Gihren, there's no indication he doesn't trust Kycilia. And he will absolutely trust Vivima, which is another factor we will have to juggle with.
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>>5990323
>>5990335
Axis is fully constructed and currently churning out mobile suits, warships, and any other war material that can be made out in the asteroid belt. It was originally being mined for resources, and there are many mining operations on other asteroid outposts it manages, but other than some continue expansions of its facilities it there isn't much mining happening on Axis itself anymore. It was one of the places that was considered for sending Elena before, the vote ended up favoring Solomon.

There are also Zeon military facilities on Mars, but I don't think you want to send Elena or the kids there.

>>5990340
>no indication
They don't get along very well, how much you want to read into that or not is up to you.
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>>5990337
That is a fair point. Kycilia will likely have spies either way even if Dozle isn't aware of it.

>>5990338
>spoiler
She would absolutely kill Elena to make sure her little sis isn't miserable or has to share a love life.
Also
>won't go against her new brother-in law
>implying she'd never kill or hurt her family

>>5990346
>They don't get along very well, how much you want to read into that or not is up to you.
Interesting way of putting it Contolist, since it doesn't necessarily indicate a lack of trust.
For example I don't get along with my brother, but I'd trust him with my life.
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>>5990346
>Mars Zeon

Can't wait to see if we ever interact with that whole mess in the future, or if we prevent the cival war (on Mars) somehow.
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“The energy fleet isn’t something to play games with,” You aren’t even sure where to begin with all of this, even considering insisting on having Casval take the bullet of marrying Vivima for a moment before thinking better of that - it’s something to consider later, perhaps, but your first instinct matches Viv’s; it’s asking for a disaster for both of them, and you still remember that feeling you got before the academy dance. There’s someone else out there waiting for Casval, someone he must meet. “We’ll need to handle them with finesse… We can discuss this all tomorrow after the dust has settled, I need time to think.”

“That’s for the best.” Viv nods in agreement, and gives an apologetic look, “I’m sorry to have dropped so much on you at once, it just started flowing-”

“I know how it is.” You hold out a hand to stop her, and Viv falls silent quickly. Getting down from the desk, Tryphosa follows suit and you are all standing once more, walking toward the testing room’s door, “...We didn’t settle on what I’m going to talk about tomorrow, did we?”

“I trust you’ll choose them well, Felix. Surprise me.” Vivima’s smile is warm, very familiar, a different light in her eyes than even just a few minutes ago - She’s looking at you differently, even without having accepted her offer. There’s something softer about her. Vulnerable. Tryphosa stands between the two of you as you walk down the hall, you and Viv each holding one of her hands. This arrangement still doesn't sit well with you, thoughts of Elena's reaction to even the offer weighing on your soul. She won't like it, but she will probably accept if only to help protect your children during the war. The war is always close in her mind, a nightmare that can only be survived and never escaped.

5:45, 11th December UC 0077
Zeon Military Academy on Guardian Banchi, Side Three (Republic of Zeon)


Wind blows through your hair as you look out from the commander’s hatch of your armored personnel carrier, the dark forests and hills of Guardian colony bobbing up and down with every slight bump the heavy wheeled vehicle takes along the road. Surveying the landscape with night vision binoculars, you have a very shaky view of the path and terrain ahead, but it still looks clear of Federation vehicles. That’s good, your one concern was catching an unexpected resupply convoy on the way in, but Blare’s intel has proven accurate so far. No Federation patrols this morning, no resupplies, just open roads and the occasional street lamp as you pass by remote charging stations. Behind you, within the troop compartment, are the cadets who have been gathered to represent the Earth Sphere and beyond.
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>>5990362

For Riah, of your three good choices, you picked:
>Izumi. She’s got a killer voice and is a national sports champion in Riah, though for a slightly obscure sport. She’s an enigma, but you get along very well.
>Rix. A solid man, though often not remarkable for more than his strength and steady mind during a fight. You trust him.
>Tiff. She’s a newtype, and unquestionably loyal to only you (and Blare). Her voice is not exactly easy listening, even if you’ve grown to really like her.

And for Loum, you chose:
>Char Aznable, of course! It’s almost like Casval is here with you, he’s a friend though a bit Gihren-y. You’ve worn some of that down over time, and you've known him for years.
>Lino Fernandez. One of Char’s friends more than your own, you don’t know him as well but he’s always been quicker to criticize Gihrenism than Char has been. You’re pretty sure he’s a Deikunist.

And from Moore, you chose Zenna Mia. She hasn’t awakened, but she’s a newtype and one of your pilots - there wasn’t much competition from the other cadets of Side 4, she was the clear pick. You’d considered leaving her to be the one to keep an eye on Dozle and distract him, but that duty fell on whoever you don’t pick from Riah. Vivima chose the cadets from the other sides, and there was only a single Earthnoid, Martian, and Jovian, so there wasn’t a choice to be made there - Tryph of course isn’t a problem, and the other two eagerly agreed. You and Vivima will jointly represent Zeon.

Up ahead, you can just barely begin to make out the hazy form of the chain link gate of the broadcast compound, a sliding gate worked into the earthwork wall and trenches that surround it. It’s difficult to see with the grainy night vision binoculars, but quickly grows clearer as the distance shrinks. The compound is fortified but barely manned, you’re not too worried about resistance, the plan is…

Third vote:
>To slam the APC through the gate and rush out, capture the guards non-lethally if possible, and try to force a surrender. There is more risk this way, but you’d rather minimize bloodshed.
>To shoot a few of the soldiers and demand the surrender of the rest, storm the compound violently but try not to kill them all - the APC is outfitted to handle casualties, so treatment of the wounded should be manageable if their wounds aren’t too horrific. It can shuttle the worst cases to Artesia’s field hospital.
>To kill all the guards, unless they surrender on their own or cease resistance after being wounded. No risks, you’re taking them as unawares as possible and securing the area by overwhelming force. The survivors will still be treated and sent to Artesia.
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>>5990365
>Izumi. She’s got a killer voice and is a national sports champion in Riah, though for a slightly obscure sport. She’s an enigma, but you get along very well.

>Char Aznable, of course! It’s almost like Casval is here with you, he’s a friend though a bit Gihren-y. You’ve worn some of that down over time, and you've known him for years.

>To slam the APC through the gate and rush out, capture the guards non-lethally if possible, and try to force a surrender. There is more risk this way, but you’d rather minimize bloodshed.
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>>5990365
-First vote
>Rix. A solid man, though often not remarkable for more than his strength and steady mind during a fight. You trust him.
Probably the least Gihren-y of the three.

-Second vote
1)
>Lino Fernandez. One of Char’s friends more than your own, you don’t know him as well but he’s always been quicker to criticize Gihrenism than Char has been. You’re pretty sure he’s a Deikunist.
2)
>Char Aznable, of course! It’s almost like Casval is here with you, he’s a friend though a bit Gihren-y. You’ve worn some of that down over time, and you've known him for years.

-Third vote
1)
>To shoot a few of the soldiers and demand the surrender of the rest, storm the compound violently but try not to kill them all - the APC is outfitted to handle casualties, so treatment of the wounded should be manageable if their wounds aren’t too horrific. It can shuttle the worst cases to Artesia’s field hospital.
2)
>To slam the APC through the gate and rush out, capture the guards non-lethally if possible, and try to force a surrender. There is more risk this way, but you’d rather minimize bloodshed.
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>>5990365
1)
>Rix
2)
>Izumi

>Lino Fernandez
Mofuggin Lino 'ride or die' Fernandez. Cas did him dirty in Origins. Not here.

>To slam the APC through the gate and rush out, capture the guards non-lethally if possible, and try to force a surrender. There is more risk this way, but you’d rather minimize bloodshed.
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>>5990365
>>5990382
+1
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>>5990387
I appreciate you going with my selection but please link back to your previous ID.
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>>5990365
>>Izumi. She’s got a killer voice and is a national sports champion in Riah, though for a slightly obscure sport. She’s an enigma, but you get along very well.
>Lino Fernandez. One of Char’s friends more than your own, you don’t know him as well but he’s always been quicker to criticize Gihrenism than Char has been. You’re pretty sure he’s a Deikunist.
>To shoot a few of the soldiers and demand the surrender of the rest, storm the compound violently but try not to kill them all - the APC is outfitted to handle casualties, so treatment of the wounded should be manageable if their wounds aren’t too horrific. It can shuttle the worst cases to Artesia’s field hospital.

wtf guys i come back and we are cheating on our wife?
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>>5990393
>cheating
Who said we're having kids with her, Do you know how political marriages work in any fashion?

or how common that shit is both IRL and older times?
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>>5990389
This >>5990340 is me. I'm on mobile, sorry!
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>>5990396
If we marry her we should have kids. It would cement her loyalty to us and distance her from Gihren and Kycilia.
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>>5990393
>wtf guys i come back and we are cheating on our wife?
Hey it ain't cheating if we aren't married.
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>>5990365
>Izumi. She’s got a killer voice and is a national sports champion in Riah, though for a slightly obscure sport. She’s an enigma, but you get along very well.
>Lino Fernandez. One of Char’s friends more than your own, you don’t know him as well but he’s always been quicker to criticize Gihrenism than Char has been. You’re pretty sure he’s a Deikunist.
inb4 he's a full on Sideist (Contolism without the Elseim) and talks about TED
>To shoot a few of the soldiers and demand the surrender of the rest, storm the compound violently but try not to kill them all - the APC is outfitted to handle casualties, so treatment of the wounded should be manageable if their wounds aren’t too horrific. It can shuttle the worst cases to Artesia’s field hospital.
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>>5990393
We haven’t decided anything definite yet and with the potential of Kycilia doing something to Elena I’m thinking we shouldn’t
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>>5990407
No worries, just wanted to make sure.
>>5990423
Kycilia might do something to Elena on her own regardless. Damned if we do damned if we don't.
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>>5990365
>Izumi. She’s got a killer voice and is a national sports champion in Riah, though for a slightly obscure sport. She’s an enigma, but you get along very well.
>Lino Fernandez. One of Char’s friends more than your own, you don’t know him as well but he’s always been quicker to criticize Gihrenism than Char has been. You’re pretty sure he’s a Deikunist
1)>To shoot a few of the soldiers and demand the surrender of the rest, storm the compound violently but try not to kill them all - the APC is outfitted to handle casualties, so treatment of the wounded should be manageable if their wounds aren’t too horrific. It can shuttle the worst cases to Artesia’s field hospital.
2)
>To slam the APC through the gate and rush out, capture the guards non-lethally if possible, and try to force a surrender. There is more risk this way, but you’d rather minimize bloodshed
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>>5990428
Kycilia seemed pretty happy for Elena and Felix when he proposed to Elena when they were all celebrating Christmas. I don't think she has a real reason for wanting Elena to die, at least not yet.
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>>5990365
>Tiff. She’s a newtype, and unquestionably loyal to only you (and Blare). Her voice is not exactly easy listening, even if you’ve grown to really like her.
>Char Aznable, of course! It’s almost like Casval is here with you, he’s a friend though a bit Gihren-y. You’ve worn some of that down over time, and you've known him for years.
>To slam the APC through the gate and rush out, capture the guards non-lethally if possible, and try to force a surrender. There is more risk this way, but you’d rather minimize bloodshed.

Tough choices. Tif has the spirit if not the verbosity, while Rix has an accent like a blender and Izumi's mentality is kinda concerning for something like this.
Lino is a bit too much of a firebrand. Good odds he'd say something over the line. Char might be a little Gihren-y but hes been around us long enough he should know to stick to our script.
The last one I'm really not sure about. Here's hoping it works out with as few casualties as possible whatever wins.
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Vote one
>>5990374
>>5990393
>>5990422
>>5990433
>>5990382 (2nd)
Izumi.

>>5990379
>>5990387
Rix.

>>5990456
Tiff.

Vote two
>>5990374
>>5990456
Char.

>>5990379 (Char)
>>5990382
>>5990387
>>5990393
>>5990422
>>5990433
Lino.

Vote three
>>5990374
>>5990382
>>5990387
>>5990433
>>5990456
Non-lethal attempt. Wins.

>>5990379 (Non-lethal)
>>5990393
>>5990422
Shoot a few

Izumi, Lino, non-lethal is the overall outcome.
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>>5990515
Should've moved >>5990379 to join the other non-lethal votes but it doesn't change anything.
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“We’re going right through the gate!” You shout down to Vivima, who insisted on driving the APC in. Tryphosa is beside her. “Dead ahead - Floor it!”

“Sieg Zeon!” Viv shouts from below in the driving compartment, and the APC’s engine roars into new life. Jolting under the force of the acceleration, you nearly lose your grip on the binoculars and let out a sieg zeon of your own before ducking down to safety - as does the entire troop compartment. A single spotlight turns on ahead of you near the gate, just as you’re about to smash through it and into the compound beyond - too late. With a metallic clanging racket, the gate is smashed open and off its sliding track, giving way easily under the weight of multiple tons of steel. Tires screech and squeal on pavement as Vivima hits the brakes, another jolt nearly slamming you into the edge of the open hatch, but you catch yourself just in time and begin shouting orders at once.

“Disembark! Go, go, go!” You shout to the troop compartment before drawing one of your revolvers and sticking your head back out of the hatch. Everyone knows what they’re tasked with, you all memorized the complex hours ago, and even as you scan over the surroundings and spot the first shocked Federation guard there are already cadets streaming from the back doors of the APC.

Snatching up the handset for the vehicle’s loudspeaker, you make your demands known in a thundering amplified voice as the men and women under your command take the compound, “Soldiers of the Earth Federation, surrender and disarm yourselves immediately! This station is being seized in the name of all the people of Earth Sphere. Surrender and disarm, and you will receive fair treatment. Our fight is not with you, but with the Federation - we are your brothers and sisters, lay down your arms! There is no need for violence, surrender and disarm immediately!”

And so it your calls of surrender continue as the cadets you’ve brought with you fan out across the electric lit base, a few tackling down Federation soldiers here and there under the lights of the prefab buildings, others holding some at rifle point near doorways as the surprised tan uniformed Feddies rush outside to see the source of the commotion. A single gunshot rings out, and then another three almost immediately, spaced so tightly as to be almost one cracking report.

“Medic!” Izumi shouts from just out of sight within the radio station itself, “Medic!”

“Shit,” You curse quietly under your breath and click the loudspeaker to replay the last half minute or so of warnings, your own voice continuing to demand the surrender of the Federation outpost as you clamber fully out of the APC and hop down onto the hard concrete below. Rushing to the radio station’s doorway, you find Zenna has already made it there with a medic bag.
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>>5990578

Lino has been shot in the neck, one bloody hand pressed tightly against the wound, and a Federation captain lies dead on the ground floor nearby in a rapidly spreading pool of gore. Dark red spread across the dead man’s torso from two holes in his uniform, right through the heart, and another has punched through his forehead and made an awful mess of the back of his head. Other Federation soldiers in the building are already down on their knees, weapons tossed away - just a couple of pistols. It looks like Lino got shot with one the captain had, and you recognize the type; years ago you used a very similar one at the villa.

“What the hell happened?” You demand an answer from Izumi as Zenna sees to Lino’s nasty looking wound.

“Perfidy, sir.” Izumi spits on the captain’s corpse, brushing back a lock of her over regulation length hair with one hand, the stray strand having fallen loose from the bun under her helmet, “He lied he was surrendering, I saw the look in his eye a moment too late. The rest have surrendered.”

“Secure the rest of the prisoners.” You shake your head, heart sinking at the scene before you - what a mess, you know something like this was likely, even with disoriented Federation defenders half awake, “Zenna, how is Lino?”

“I’m… I’m doing fine, sir!” Lino winces terribly and struggles to speak as Zenna is packing all kinds of hemostatics into his wound in preparation to wrap it, “S-sieg zeon, ha!”

“He’ll make it,” Zenna answers, “Isn’t that right, Lino? You’re going to be fine.”

“Y-yeah, got to send my message.” He replies, but he’s looking at you now, and taps at one of the pockets of his webgear, “Got it in there, in case I… Could you read it, Felix?”

>”You’re going to read it yourself, Lino. Hold on, we’ll get you patched up - Izumi, how are the others?.” It looks like Zenna has things under control, and there is blood in the APC for a transfusion - he’ll make it, it’s going to be a rough time for him.
>”...I’ll try to do it justice. You’re getting evacuated with the first load of prisoners.” The man’s been shot in the damned neck, send him to Artesia and the others for something closer to proper care - he’s done his duty.
>Write-in.

Also:
>What will Felix say when he speaks on the radio? Submit your write-ins now, there will be another vote next update.
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>>5990579
>”...I’ll try to do it justice. You’re getting evacuated with the first load of prisoners.” The man’s been shot in the damned neck, send him to Artesia and the others for something closer to proper care - he’s done his duty.

>Read Lino's message.
>"People of Zeon, here we stand before you. Today we are united at the precipice of a new era, one that was forged by the myriad injustices and great upheavals of a corrupt regime. Indeed, we stand at the edge of a new dawn for the justice of spacenoids amongst our fellow humans."
>"Let us disavow the ancient concepts and ways of life, and instead embrace something greater. For today we come here not as military men and women, but as comrades that have suffered alongside you. The actions that have come about are not done hastily or in fury, but as a last resort to the overbearing corruption and incompetence of the ancient regime, shackling us down to the ground. We ask today for the end of injustice against spacenoids, and for peace to return to the Sides."
Probably a bit wordy and doesn't hit all the Contolist notes I would've liked, but it's the best I can come up with before going to bed.
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>>5990579
>”You’re going to read it yourself, Lino. Hold on, we’ll get you patched up - Izumi, how are the others?.” It looks like Zenna has things under control, and there is blood in the APC for a transfusion - he’ll make it, it’s going to be a rough time for him.

>My fellow brother and sisters of Space. I am Felix deiki and with me are representatives youths of both space and her colonies and earth. We come not as warriors but children of the same family seeking an end to the violence that strikes at each and every one of our homes. This doubling down and cycle of violence will get us no-where but more death members of humanity. I say enough! We must rise above the violence and hate of the past and embark on a new understanding future!

I'm on phone, doped up and hopeful this can be made better by others.
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>>5990579
>”...I’ll try to do it justice. You’re getting evacuated with the first load of prisoners.” The man’s been shot in the damned neck, send him to Artesia and the others for something closer to proper care - he’s done his duty.
Fine by me, I didn't particularly want him here anyway. Hopefully he doesn't mind if we accidently leave out his more inflammatory rhetoric.

>"Brothers and Sisters of the universe, my name is Felix Zos Deikun. Many years ago my father spoke about mankind's destiny, and but for the cruel hands of fate he would be here to speak again. In his place I have a simple message to share: We must stand together! The Earth Federation, founded upon good intentions, has failed to live up to its great potential. After finally unifying ourselves as one people, we immediately divided ourselves again, as Earthnoids, Spacenoids, Jovians, and Martians. We must cast off these shackles! We were all born to take to the stars, to see the vast beauty of the universe! We must dispose of our old prejudices and grasp this future of ours together, not as Earthnoids and Spacenoids, but as the people of the universe! We must no longer allow our hearts, minds, and souls to be held down by the gravity of hatred and division!"
Something along those lines yeah?
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>>5990579
>”...I’ll try to do it justice. You’re getting evacuated with the first load of prisoners.” The man’s been shot in the damned neck, send him to Artesia and the others for something closer to proper care - he’s done his duty.
Damn it, Leno. At least he isn't dead this time around. I don't got shit for a write in.
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>>5990579
>”...I’ll try to do it justice. You’re getting evacuated with the first load of prisoners.” The man’s been shot in the damned neck, send him to Artesia and the others for something closer to proper care - he’s done his duty.
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>>5990830
>>5990755
>>5990722
>>5990590
Read it yourself. Wins, writing.

>>5990672
Keep Lino here.
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“...I’ll try to do it justice. You’re getting evacuated with the first load of prisoners.” You promise him, crouching down beside him and taking one of his hands in yours and squeezing it tight; a wounded brother in arms deserves no less, “We’re not losing anyone today, Lino, you’ll get patched up in no time.”

Wincing in pain as Zenna continues to treat his wound, Lino nods and taps at the pouch on his gear again. You open the pouch and pull the note inside out with your clean hand, if Lino or Zenna did it the blood would’ve left it unreadable. Flipping the folded paper open, you scan over the text… It’s a excerpt from one of your father’s old speeches, word for word. Well, that confirms that at least, Lino’s definitely not a Gihrenist - or he’s so mild of one that the difference hardly matters, your father and Gihren did work together for years, there’s some overlap before the Zabis really went off the rails.

“This is good.” You force a smile, though there’s nothing pleasant about the state your loyal supporter is in. Lino’s not just an acquaintance or another cadet, he took a bullet for your cause; the man deserves a medal, though you know there’s likely to only be punishments handed out after this rebellion is finished - the goal isn’t to spark a war with the Federation, and they’ll still have a great sway over things as the dust begins to settle. “This is very good. Word for word.”

“Word for word.” Lino repeats, “I… I think I’m gonna stop talking now, sir.”

“Thought I was going to have to order you to. Zenna, I’ll get a stretcher.” You then stand and head out to the APC, surveying the scene - there were more Federation soldiers here than you’d expected, but most of them have already been lined up in rows near the APC. A stack of small arms is piled up some twenty yards away, a single cadet standing watch over the weapons and another the prisoners. They won’t try anything, this wasn’t some glorious last stand, they probably just want to go home - you can feel a terrible fear behind their eyes, despite the message still repeating from the APC’s loudspeakers some of them must fear they’re about to be executed by terrorists.

Working with Vivima and Tryphosa, you’re able to get one of the field stretchers out from it, and then relieve the prison and weapon guards for long enough that they can go and retrieve Lino. He’s loaded up in the APC without too much fuss, and Zenna gets a transfusion started. Things are going smoothly now, you barely even have to give orders, and it’s easy to direct the few cadets in need of guidance as issues come up; Viv handles a lot of it, truth be told. She’s inside the radio station now with Tryphosa, working together to get the broadcast ready to send once communications are not being jammed.
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>>5990978

Looking up across the twinkling lights of Guardian colony’s dark wrapping interior, you cast your gaze toward where you know the Sybota must be keeping station. Somewhere out there beyond the hull of the colony, past the crafted landscapes and metal superstructure, a battle has commenced already. Checking your watch, you are certain it has. Anavel left for your ship hours before any of the other cadets set out, even with the long solo space walk and flight pack journey to your ship he must’ve made it there - you have no doubt about his capabilities. The fight at the spaceport has begun as well. Casval is right in the thick of things, you can feel the slight change to the tension of the air around you. You cannot see it, but you know.

Eventually Vivima leans out from the doorway of the radio station and shouts, “Felix, we’re all set over here! Gato's run the Sybota off, we just got the go ahead! Do you want to speak first?”

You begin heading over at once, signaling for another cadet to stand guard over the prisoners - the first batch are being loaded up for transport now, the driver and crew are the few spare cadets you brought with you, essentially all Vivima’s lackeys.

>”Gladly, Viv.” Of course you won’t pass on the chance to frame the whole broadcast!
>”You should speak first, I’ll go after.” More out of concern for Gihren or Kycilia’s reaction if you speak first. Vivima leading would shield you from that.
>”We should do it together, it doesn’t matter who has the first word.” Viv can say the first few words, and you’ll take the next - You’re sure you can begin the message together without issue, you’ve lived together for years now. The reaction of the other Zabis is… uncertain.
>Write-in.

I'll continue to take write-in suggestions on what to say.
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>>5990980
>”Gladly, Viv.” Of course you won’t pass on the chance to frame the whole broadcast!
Well whoever ran with the Titans quest idea have fun with it. It doesn't look like it has legs, but enjoy.
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>>5990980
>”We should do it together, it doesn’t matter who has the first word.” Viv can say the first few words, and you’ll take the next - You’re sure you can begin the message together without issue, you’ve lived together for years now. The reaction of the other Zabis is… uncertain.

Together now. From spacenoid to spacenoid. Let it be free and flow.
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>>5990980
>”Gladly, Viv.” Of course you won’t pass on the chance to frame the whole broadcast!
We shouldn't pass up this opportunity.
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>>5990980
1)
>”You should speak first, I’ll go after.” More out of concern for Gihren or Kycilia’s reaction if you speak first. Vivima leading would shield you from that.
2)
>”Gladly, Viv.” Of course you won’t pass on the chance to frame the whole broadcast!
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>>5990980
>”Gladly, Viv.” Of course you won’t pass on the chance to frame the whole broadcast!
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>>5990980
>”Gladly, Viv.” Of course you won’t pass on the chance to frame the whole broadcast!
Can't be afraid of Gihren and Kycilia forever.
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>>5990980
>”Gladly, Viv.” Of course you won’t pass on the chance to frame the whole broadcast!
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>>5990980
>”We should do it together, it doesn’t matter who has the first word.” Viv can say the first few words, and you’ll take the next - You’re sure you can begin the message together without issue, you’ve lived together for years now. The reaction of the other Zabis is… uncertain.
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>>5990980
>>”Gladly, Viv.” Of course you won’t pass on the chance to frame the whole broadcast!

Let them hear the gentle thunder of a Deikun once more.

Although incidentally Contolist if this hasn't been asked before, what does Felix sound like? Close to Casval? And if so which VA?
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>>5991201
>spoiler
Silverstein probably, he also played a Char Clone so it fits.
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>>5990984
>>5991007
>>5991008 (2nd)
>>5991011
>>5991013
>>5991049
>>5991201
Gladly! Wins, writing.

>>5991052
>>5991000
Together.

>>5991201
In English? Probably Silverstein doing a slightly different voice since this is mostly The Origin stuff, but I need to think on that more. I've always imagined Felix being softer spoken than Casval, they have very different dispositions.
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“Gladly, Viv!” You shout back to her while striding toward the radio station, every step feeling a little heavier than the last - the weight of history is bearing down on you, the importance of this moment becoming more real within your mind. Of course you’ll speak first, you must. Viv waves you inside, smiling confidently and her violet eyes alight with passion; she understands the importance of this as well, you can see it written plainly across her face.

“I already sent out the intracolony broadcast, it couldn’t wait.” Vivima says as you both head deeper into the station’s interior, passing the blood stain on the tiled floor where Izumi slew the Federation captain and heading through another door and down another sparsely decorated hall green hall.

“Good, the people here should know what’s going on at the spaceport.” You have no issues with Viv sending out what is essentially a safety warning to the public of Guardian colony - there isn’t a large population here compared to most, a great deal of the colony is given over entirely to empty terrain for biome training, but the civilians who are present need to know to stay indoors while fighting is ongoing. Entering into a room with a number of terminals and microphones, you take a seat at a chair indicated to you by Tryphosa - she has gotten everything sorted out.

“You need only press the button to broadcast, Felix.” Tryph explains, pointing with a delicate finger toward a small silver button at the base of the microphone in front of you, “And wear this headset.”

“Right.” You put it on and adjust the fit, satisfied with it a moment later - you can hear Vivima’s intracolony broadcast playing; it is terse and to the point.

”This is an emergency safety broadcast! Citizens of Guardian Colony, we - the sons and daughters of Zeon - are currently engaging Federation forces in battle in and around the spaceport. Remain calm and seek shelter immediately, remain off the streets until fighting has ceased. We fight for your safety, please do not endanger your lives unnecessarily. When fighting has ceased, a new message will be broadcast. This message will repeat.”

…Yeah, pretty neutral all things considered. There isn’t much else to say to the public here, they’ll be able to hear the new broadcast as well but it’s more important that they’re safe first.

Pressing down on the button, you begin the broadcast…

>What do you say to the entire Earth Sphere? (Write-in!)

Vivima will speak next, and then it will cycle through the other cadets in this order: Earthnoid > Lunarian > Side 1, 2, 3 (a brief acknowledgement since you and Viv spoke already), 4 (you again with the note), 5, 6. There is no one from 7. Mars is next, then Tryphosa for the Jovians, and finally Vivima will sing. The message and song will repeat.
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>>5991539
"A new message signaling that it is safe to leave shelter will be broadcast"*

Lost that bit in editing somehow.
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>>5991539
>Read Lino's message, if we haven't already.
>"Brothers and Sisters of the universe, my name is Felix Zos Deikun, and here we stand. Many years ago my father spoke about mankind's destiny, and but for the cruel hands of fate he would be here to speak again. In his place I have a simple message to share: We must stand together! We speak to you not as warriors or military men and women, but as children of the same family seeking an end to the violence that has plagued us. The Earth Federation, founded upon good intentions, has failed to live up to its great potential. After finally unifying ourselves as one people, we immediately divided ourselves again, as Earthnoids, Spacenoids, Jovians, and Martians. We must cast off these shackles! All of us were born to take to the stars, to see the vast beauty of the universe! We must dispose of our old prejudices and grasp this future of ours together, not as Earthnoids and Spacenoids, but as the people of the universe! We must no longer allow our hearts, minds, and souls to be held down by the gravity of hatred and division!"
I'm mostly using the write-in of >>5990722 while mixing a bit of the other two in it.
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>>5991539
I won't have time to vote most of today so I'll just throw in my support for whatever gets the most popular.
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>>5991555
I feel like there should be something about newtypes in here somewhere, but I don't know how it would be phrased.
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>>5991555
I agree we should probably add something more about newtypes
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>>5991555
>>5991629
>>5990722
I was the writer of this one. Lemme make an adjustment and sprinkle in a touch of newtype

>"Brothers and Sisters of the universe, my name is Felix Zos Deikun, and I come to you today from Side 3's Guardian Banchi. Many years ago my father spoke about mankind's newtype destiny, and but for the cruel hands of fate he would be here to speak to you again. In his place I have a simple message to share: We must stand together! We speak to you not as warriors or military men and women, but as children of the same family seeking an end to the violence that has plagued us. The Earth Federation, founded upon good intentions, has failed to live up to its great potential! After finally unifying ourselves as one people, we immediately divided ourselves again, as Earthnoids, Spacenoids, Jovians, and Martians. We must cast off these shackles! All of us were born to take to the stars, to see the vast beauty of the universe! We must dispose of our old prejudices and grasp this future of ours together, not as Earthnoids and Spacenoids, but as the people of the universe! We must no longer allow our hearts, minds, and souls to be held down by the gravity of hatred and division! Ending that violence between us is the only way that we will rise to truly become the newtypes my father knew that we would become, and are already becoming! Stand with us on this path, so that a day comes when mankind no longer wars against itself!
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>>5991697
>if not for the cruel hands of fate
I’m willing to support this
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Voting will be open until later tonight.

>>5991697
Looking pretty good so far with that one desu, don't forget that you need to tell the Earth Sphere why the message is being sent/reasons for what is going on. Cadets at the spaceport, field hospital, radio station, and Gato out in the Zaku all have cameras so there will be accompanying footage edited by others. Blare and some other cadets Vivima and Casval picked are handling the editing, they have stock footage of the Earth/Luna/all the Sides/Energy Fleet/Mars ready to go as well so it isn't just going to be war footage.
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>>5991819
That was something I was struggling with, since I don't know how long you want it to be. But here's another adjustment.

>"Brothers and Sisters of the universe, my name is Felix Zos Deikun, and I come to you today from Side 3's Guardian Banchi. Today is an unfortunate day, for today we, the Zeon Defense Forces Cadet Corps, are forced to raise our hands against our counterparts in the EFF. While we bear no ill will towards the fine men and women of the EFGF and EFSF, we could no longer stand by and watch them carry out the orders of the corrupt Earth Federation leadership! The wanton abuse of protestors, the casual disregard for the rights of all who live across the Side, can no longer be simply endured! The Earth Federation captain whose pigheaded desire to stamp on the neck of spacenoids by refusing to follow basic right of way was the final straw. While I mourn the loss of life aboard the <insert name of feddie cruiser that smashed into the agro-ring here>, no longer can we tolerate this aggression against us. Therefore, we have decided to act against the EFF forces currently occupying our Banchi. While I am happy to say that the station I speak to you from was taken with only minimal bloodshed, I cannot deny that there will be death in Side 3 this morning. But I do not want today to be about division. Division is why this violence rages across the Earth Sphere and beyond, and there is but one way it can be snuffed out. Many years ago my father spoke about mankind's newtype destiny, and but for the cruel hands of fate he would be here to speak to you again. In his place I have a simple message to share: We must stand together! We speak to you not as warriors or military men and women, but as children of the same family seeking an end to the violence that has plagued us. The Earth Federation, founded upon good intentions, has failed to live up to its great potential! After finally unifying ourselves as one people, we immediately divided ourselves again, as Earthnoids, Spacenoids, Jovians, and Martians. We must cast off these shackles! All of us were born to take to the stars, to see the vast beauty of the universe! We must dispose of our old prejudices and grasp this future of ours together, not as Earthnoids and Spacenoids, but as the people of the universe! We must no longer allow our hearts, minds, and souls to be held down by the gravity of hatred and division! Ending that violence between us is the only way that we will rise to truly become the newtypes my father knew that we would become, and are already becoming! Stand with us on this path, so that a day comes when mankind no longer wars against itself!

...it's getting pretty long now.
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>>5991858
Still only a couple of minutes worth of speaking at a reasonable pace. That isn't all that long, especially for the start of the broadcast. The whole thing will probably be less than twenty minutes, including Vivima's song. Should have a chance to repeat at least a few times since you'll be using the Federation's own emergency alert channels to send it, notably one of the few things that isn't being jammed all to hell (aside from Minovsky interference, but that isn't happening around all colonies).
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>>5991877
Well if anybody wants to make it longer, or wants me to make it longer, I'll do so. Otherwise, I leave that ball in your hands, Cont.
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>>5991858
We should mention the Bendigo full of tanks and heavy weapons coming to the sides, a clear sign of emanate escalation and civilian death that could not be tolerate. It was the direct spark that lead to this action.
We should have photos and such of those.
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>>5991539
>>5991858
>>5991919
Here, I tried making minor tweaks
>"Brothers and Sisters of the universe, my name is Felix Zos Deikun, and I come to you today from Side 3's Guardian Banchi. Today is an unfortunate day, for today we, the Zeon Defense Forces Cadet Corps, are forced to raise our hands against our counterparts in the EFF. While we bear no ill will towards the fine men and women of the EFGF and EFSF, we can no longer stand by and watch them carry out the orders of the corrupt Earth Federation leadership! The wanton abuse of protestors, the casual disregard for the rights of all who live across the Side, can no longer be endured! The Earth Federation captain whose pigheaded desire to stamp on the neck of spacenoids by refusing to follow basic right of way was the final straw for I have seen firsthand the lengths to which the Federation is willing to go to quash dissenters. We have seen the tanks, guntanks, and APCs the Federation were planning to bring to bear upon the citizenry of Zum, to all the Sides. While I mourn the loss of life aboard the <insert name of feddie cruiser that smashed into the agro-ring here>, no longer can we tolerate this aggression against us nor allow any further escalation of violence against our civilian neighbors, friends, and loved ones. Therefore, we have decided to take matters into our own hands and act against the EFF forces currently occupying our Banchi. While I am happy to say that the station I speak to you from was taken with only one unfortunate and unintended death, I cannot deny that there will be death in Side 3 this morning. But I do not want today to be about division. Division is why this violence rages across the Earth Sphere and beyond, and there is but one way it can be snuffed out. Many years ago my father spoke about mankind's newtype destiny, and but for the cruel hands of fate he would be here to speak to you again. In his place I have a simple message to share: We must stand together! We speak to you not as warriors or military men and women, but as children of the same family seeking an end to the violence that has plagued us. The Earth Federation, founded upon good intentions, has failed to live up to its great potential! After finally unifying ourselves as one people, we immediately divided ourselves again, as Earthnoids, Spacenoids, Jovians, and Martians. We must cast off these shackles! All of us were born to take to the stars, to see the vast beauty of the universe! We must dispose of our old prejudices and grasp this future of ours together, not as Earthnoids and Spacenoids, but as the people of the universe! We must no longer allow our hearts, minds, and souls to be held down by the gravity of hatred and division! Ending that violence between us is the only way that we will rise to truly become the newtypes my father knew that we would become, and are already becoming! Stand with us on this path, so that a day comes when mankind no longer wars against itself!
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>>5992019
This seems like a pretty good basis to work from, I might make some minor tweaks here and there.

Any objections/additions/whatever for this, anons? You have until the morning to let me know, I'll start writing then.
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>>5992019
>>5992050

I don't like the "children of the universe" bit. Imagine if there was a war between two countries and some one opened up with "AYO BRUDDAS OF THE UNIVERSE! TAKE OUR SIDE N'SHIET!" you would think some nepo baby was spending too much time on social media. They are in space but for them the conflict would be much more local than the universe or even the galaxy. Maybe a reference to earth or the sides would be better since that is what would be closer to the peoples concerns.
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>>5992211
Blame Zeon Deikun for that particular style of phrasing, anon, but it's an acknowledged way to address all of mankind within the setting though admittedly tends to lean more toward Spacenoids.
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Going to start writing now, it'll probably take awhile compared to normal since there's a bunch of stuff to cover. If you have any questions now is a good time to ask them too.
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>>5992292
How fucked are we?
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>>5992211
Yeah as Cont said I borrowed that directly from Zeon's speechs. Callbacks like that are a speechwriting must for this kind of ideological warfare.

>>5992292
What's your favorite aquatic mobile suit, and why is/isn't it the Zock?
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>>5992019
Also, I just realized that I had Felix say Deikun, and not Deikun-Zabi. Now I'm wondering if that might have been a step too far
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Pressing down on the button, you begin the broadcast. Closing your eyes and allowing the awareness to expand beyond yourself, to fill all the space about you and to be cast even out toward the space port and beyond, you begin to speak in a solemn tone.

"Brothers and Sisters of the universe, my name is Felix Zos Deikun, and today I speak to you from the Republic of Zeon’s Guardian Banchi.” You start, choosing the words with great care as you feel the tragedy of the spaceport battle unfolding; men and women are dying, buildings are burning, shells fall from the sky, “Today is a tragic day. We, the Zeon Defense Forces Cadet Corps, have been forced to raise our hands against our counterparts in the Earth Federation’s military. Yesterday while performing disaster relief work for the people of Zeon, we Cadets bore witness to the Federation’s shipment of heavy weaponry and thousands of soldiers to Zum city and other colonies in Side Three.

If all is going well, Blare and the others should not be splicing in footage taken by the mobile workers yesterday, and over Federation forces gathering at Guardian’s spaceport base, “These shipments bore only one goal: to crush and kill our people, to wreak havoc among civilians and terrify them into meek submissiveness. Women and children, whole families - we plainly saw the Federation’s intentions to sweep them all away in fire, and so this morning at dawn we have chosen to act in the people’s defense! We have seen the tanks, the guntanks, and the personnel carriers which the Federation intended to use against the citizenry of Zum, against the good people of all the Sides. There is no need for such weapons to control people if a government is just, if it cares for its people, but the Federation does not! Ask yourself, what has stirred the people of Zeon into such unrest to begin with? This very same heavy handed oppression!”

Moving on, you continue to establish the stakes of the ongoing uprising, “The colony our academy resides upon, Guardian Banchi, has been used as a hub for this onslaught against human dignity - as I speak, my comrades are putting an end this madness, fighting to defend the people of the Earth Sphere by seizing control of the Federation’s stockpile of weapons here, and capturing troops and transport ships before they are sent to oppress our people! While I mourn the loss of life on both sides, and the tragic loss of the Federation cruiser two days ago, no longer can we tolerate the pig-headed aggression which led to these circumstances to begin with, nor will we allow any further escalation of violence against our civilians, friends, and loved ones!”
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>>5992409

Raising your voice, you speak with greater passion, the words coming more easily now, naturally, “The wanton abuse of protestors, the casual disregard for the rights of all who live across the Sides and beyond, can no longer be endured! We bear no ill will towards the common soldiers of the Federation, who often joined out of a desire to protect their fellow man or a simple need to survive, but we can no longer stand by and watch them carry out the orders of the corrupt Earth Federation leadership!”

“Therefore, we have decided to take matters into our own hands and act militarily against the Federation forces currently occupying our Banchi.” You declare clearly at last, though with a profound regret, knowing that footage of the ongoing fighting is likely to be shown now, the distance scenes of battle which you can feel at the edges of your consciousness even if you do not see them clearly, “...I cannot deny that there will be death in Zeon this morning, but we act not to further existing division but to beseech all the people of the Earth Sphere to come together as one and cast off the narrowmindedness of the Federation! Division is why this violence rages across the Earth Sphere and beyond, and there is but one way it can be snuffed out: We must set aside the old ways of mankind, and embrace our true place as the people of the universe. We share a common fate, and a common responsibility to defend one another against such brutality.”
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“...Many years ago my father often spoke of mankind's newtype destiny, and but for the cruel hands of fate he would be here today to speak to you again. In his place I have a simple message to share: We must stand together!” You reiterate, filled with passion as you head toward the end of your speech, “Though we take up arms to defend others, today we speak to you not as soldiers but as children of the same family, we seek an end to the violence and strife that plague us all. The Earth Federation, founded upon good intentions at the start of this Universal Century, has failed to live up to its great potential and promises! After finally unifying ourselves as one people, we immediately divided ourselves again, as Earthnoids, Spacenoids, Jovians, and Martians. We must cast off these shackles one day if we are to ever prosper!”

Finally you reach the end of your message, lowering your voice once again, allowing the words to settle upon the minds of all who listen within Guardian Colony and far, far beyond its shell, “All of us were born to take to the stars, to see the vast beauty of the universe! We must dispose of our old prejudices and grasp this future of ours together, not as Earthnoids and Spacenoids, but as the people of the universe! We must no longer allow our hearts, minds, and souls to be held down by the gravity of hatred and division! Ending that violence between us is the only way that we will rise to truly become the newtypes my father knew that we would become, and are already becoming! Stand with us on this path, so that a day comes when mankind no longer wars against itself!”
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“That was beautiful.” Vivima assures you with a sincere smile, taking the headset from you and taking your place in the seat as you stand up. It’s her turn now. Brushing her dark purple hair back with both hands, she takes a deep breath and then reaches out to press the broadcast button. Leaning toward the microphone, she speaks in a velvet tone, lovely and soft… no one will tune away from this broadcast.

“People of the Earth Sphere, I am Vivima Zabi. I speak as one with Felix Zos Deikun today, as our families are now one, and all our fellow cadets who will speak after us.” Vivima begins amicably, turning to you for a moment with a kind smile, “Here with us we have assembled cadet representatives from Earth, Luna, nearly every Side, and even the Jupiter and Martian colonies. Though our peoples have so often seen ourselves as divided, even now we have begun to act as one - not in name only, as the Federation does, but in truth!. We are united as cadets at this academy, but we were all brought here by a common belief: That together we can create a brighter future for all mankind, within the Earth Sphere and beyond.”

As she continues speaking, you begin to realize that she is not just talking about newtypes or Contolism, but Ereism as well - a surprisingly kindred spirit, “This precious solar system of ours, the greatest gift given to us by providence, is bountiful beyond imagination! It holds limitless potential, far beyond what even mankind’s sacred cradle, Earth, once held before she was ravaged by industry and stripped of so much of her natural beauty. If we strive together as one, there is wealth and plenty among the stars. If the shackles of gravity and the old ways of thinking can be cast off then we need never again be driven by fears of overpopulation or scarcity! Look to the colonies and Luna today, even upon the surface of Mars, and see the prosperity we have forged from adversity! Though great struggles persist, every year we work together to improve the conditions in which we live, even as the Federation continues to use us as a dumping ground for its excess population and a crutch to hold up its inefficient industry - We welcome those cast aside by the Earth with open arms. New colonies are constructed every year so you might live with us as one.”
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“Though our mining of the asteroid belt and harvesting of fuel from Jupiter has accessed less than a thirtieth of the resource potential the earth still holds, we have created a common standard of living which surpasses that of those still living on our once green homeworld!” She proclaims this fact proudly, and even you can’t help but swell with pride at the truth of it as well; you have seen the squalor of so much of Earth first hand, the camps and slums, and there are only a few colonies with such poor conditions these days, “To our brothers and sisters still upon the earth, to all Earthnoids who have yet to join us among the stars, ask yourselves a simple question: How could this be the case? How could the Federation have allowed the Earth’s bounty to be squandered so terribly while so much of its beauty is forever lost? How can the unwanted cast-offs of the Federation have created such prosperity after being forced from their old home?”

“The answer is simple!” Vivima sounds almost like Gihren now, her tone more fiery with every word despite the surface of peacefulness born by the message, “Those who lead the Federation are mired in the past, weighed down by gravity! They and all who see as they do are driven only by a thoughtless greed and lust for power, they care nothing for you or the value of your life. Their arrogance and selfish desires would see mankind forever cling to the earth like parasites, so long as they remained at the top of the growing garbage heap! People of the Earth, reject this fate! The Sides have faced this same oppression and indifference, and we have begun to overcome it by coming together as a people - we have developed a new consciousness, one which looks beyond the self and to the other, an awareness of life, and time, and space as a single flowing existence. If you are skeptical of my words, or do not grasp them, look at our works and cooperation and you will understand. Seethe unity we have forged even when so many still whisper and spread lies of disharmony - the proof is plain to see.”
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“This cooperation is but the first step upon the long road to mankind’s true newtype destiny, as Zeon Deikun and my dearest brother Gihren Zabi have long spoken of. Already there are those among us who have developed new abilities of perception and empathy, far beyond those ever witnessed in mankind’s past - these are the first newtypes, the first people of a new age; every year, more and more people are found to have developed these gifts. It is mankind’s fate that all someday will.”

“You too, even born on the Earth, can partake in this common destiny of mankind. Just as our ancestors did when the Federation first forced them from their homes, your children can become Spacenoids, and newtypes after that! You can cast off the gravity of the Earth and live among the stars with us as one! I invite all the people of the Earth to come to the Sides, and Luna, and far beyond - join us in the heavens, and together we may finally move past the division and oppression which we have all suffered under for so long… And to the soldiers of the Federation’s military, wherever you hail from, and to anyone else in the Federation government who feel uncertainty or guilt in their heart, I ask you to lay down your arms and cease any support for the heinous actions of the Federation now taking place within Zeon and Riah! Do not participate in this brutality toward the helpless, do not allow the orders of your superiors to turn you into the same monsters they are!”

There is a long pause before Vivima continues, her back straightening as she prepares for something beyond even what she has said so far, “...Some may see it as merely the cry of a new nation, but the words I will soon speak are for all of mankind. They herald the coming of a new dawn for all of humanity, the time of newtypes and peace among the stars: Cast off the yoke of the Federation, people of the universe! SIEG ZEON!

Though no one but you and Tryphosa can see her, she salutes, and you find your own arm rising as well - a reflex developed at the academy, but this time…

Vote One:
>You mean it wholeheartedly. Let your father’s name be a rallying cry not just within Zeon, but across all of space.
>You only repeat her shout by reflex, still seeing it as an abuse of your father’s legacy.
>Write-in.

Vote two:
>Hear more messages from the other cadets? This won’t be ALL of them, but will include Izumi, Lino, and Zenna’s messages.
>Nah, that’s enough, move along to Tryphosa, the song, and the beginning of the aftermath of the Dawn Rebellion.
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>>5992346
I really like the Hygogg and Juaggu, the first for being sleek as hell and the second for being a big derpy over armored motherfucker that can even shrug off some beam weapons. The Zock wins points for being a giant death chicken though.
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>>5992415
>You only repeat her shout by reflex, still seeing it as an abuse of your father’s legacy.
Lest we forget.

>Hear more messages from the other cadets? This won’t be ALL of them, but will include Izumi, Lino, and Zenna’s messages.
Mostly out of curiosity. I like how Contolist writes speeches.
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>>5992415

Vote One
>There is a twinge of pain in your heart still, but at least this is a message your father would be happy to have tied to his name, bittersweet as it is

Vote two
>Hear more messages

I want some insight into Izumi's head for sure. Maybe even what the earthnoid has to say, if you actually have something for them Cont.

>>5992418
Based elephant appreciator. The goofiness is why aquatic MS are so great in the first place.
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>>5992415
>>5992428
Supporting.
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>>5992415
Supporting >>5992429. We may never forget what the Zabis took from us, but this is bigger than them, and us. This is for the future of all humanity, and all its people.
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>>5992415
>You only repeat her shout by reflex, still seeing it as an abuse of your father’s legacy.
I don't really have an opinion on if we should hear the rest of the speeches. I mean it sounds nice, but I'll leave it up to the other anons to decide.
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>>5992415
Vote One
>You only repeat her shout by reflex, still seeing it as an abuse of your father’s legacy.

Vote Two
>Hear more messages from the other cadets?
Maybe more of a summary of each, doesn't have to be word for word
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>>5992415
>You only repeat her shout by reflex, still seeing it as an abuse of your father’s legacy.
I don't think he'd like his name to be turned into a 'Sieg Heil' analogy.

1)
>Hear more messages from the other cadets? This won’t be ALL of them, but will include Izumi, Lino, and Zenna’s messages.
2)
>Nah, that’s enough, move along to Tryphosa, the song, and the beginning of the aftermath of the Dawn Rebellion.
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>>5992415
>You only repeat her shout by reflex, still seeing it as an abuse of your father’s legacy

>Hear more messages from the other cadets? This won’t be ALL of them, but will include Izumi, Lino, and Zenna’s messages
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>>5992415
>>5992429
Support.
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>>5992415
>You mean it wholeheartedly. Let your father’s name be a rallying cry not just within Zeon, but across all of space.

>Hear more messages from the other cadets? This won’t be ALL of them, but will include Izumi, Lino, and Zenna’s messages.
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>>5992415
>You mean it wholeheartedly. Let your father’s name be a rallying cry not just within Zeon, but across all of space.
Time to show the Earth Sphere what a follower of Hitler can do.
>Hear more messages from the other cadets? This won’t be ALL of them, but will include Izumi, Lino, and Zenna’s messages.
The Tryphosa song better either be you singing in a falsetto Contolist, or sunoai.
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>>5992415
1)
Support >>5992429
2)
>You mean it wholeheartedly. Let your father’s name be a rallying cry not just within Zeon, but across all of space.

>Hear more messages from the other cadets
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>>5992415
>You only repeat her shout by reflex, still seeing it as an abuse of your father’s legacy

>Hear more messages from the other cadets? This won’t be ALL of them, but will include Izumi, Lino, and Zenna’s messages
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>>5990374
This is me

>>5992486
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>>5992415
>>5992480
Swapping to:

Vote One
1)
>There is a twinge of pain in your heart still, but at least this is a message your father would be happy to have tied to his name, bittersweet as it is

2)
>You mean it wholeheartedly. Let your father’s name be a rallying cry not just within Zeon, but across all of space.

Vote Two
>Hear more messages from the other cadets
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>>5992415
>You mean it wholeheartedly. Let your father’s name be a rallying cry not just within Zeon, but across all of space.
>Hear more messages from the other cadets? This won’t be ALL of them, but will include Izumi, Lino, and Zenna’s messages.

Good speeches.
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>>5992475
Changing too
1)
>You only repeat her shout by reflex, still seeing it as an abuse of your father’s legacy
2)
>There is a twinge of pain in your heart still, but at least this is a message your father would be happy to have tied to his name, bittersweet as it is

>Hear more messages from the other cadets? This won’t be ALL of them, but will include Izumi, Lino, and Zenna’s messages



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