i'm only 30 and my back starting to fucking hurt, must be from bad posture while sitting on the computer, it's all i do all day is sit on the computer so that has to be it. FUUUUUUUCKwhat the hell is going on?what do i do?
lose weight (if any)do crunches
>>82354728you get back pain from being a lard ass?i did gain weight recently...
>>82354721push ups and barbell squats
>>82354721You still here OP?I have arthritis, the autoimmune disease kind, and I'm almost 30 and I'm wondering if my back pain is arthritis levels or just 30 year old pain levels. Can you still sit all day long? Walk as long as you want for the most part, just with pain? I can only sit up for about 2 hours at a time before it becomes agony and I need to lay down for about an hour to recuperate. And walking I can only do like 10 - 15 minutes before I end up hunched over and it feels like there's a bunch of knives in my back. Surely that's not how bad your back feels, right? Not to belittle your pain, but I just feel a faker when I talk about how bad it is for me, so I'd like someone to compare to.
>>82354739Yes. Lose weight and strengthen your core with crunches, squats, or deadlifts.
>>82355012This plus lat pulldowns or chinups to prevent or heal tight shoulders / upper back. Barbell squat is the main one to keep your back strong and pain free. Just don't go crazy and also, make sure to stay hydrated while taking creatine. I used to tweak muscles all the time BC I was constantly dehydrated. Get yourself a large isolated flask or cup, put ice cubes in it to make plain water more delicious and refreshing.>t.40yo with no back pain whatsoever
>>82354721Back pain can have a ton of different causes...and different causes depending if its upper or lower back. Trying to find the root cause isn't always simple, its easier just to strengthen and stretch everything. Don't start off too hard, ease into it. If you sit a lot you probably have a weak core and weak glutes. Probably weak upper back muscles too like rhomboids and traps and rotator cuffs. You want to do pushing and pulling exercises but do more pulling exercises. Don't worry necessarily about having a straight back all the time, focus on strengthening the muscles that make it hard for you to naturally be straight, and make sure you move around a lot during the day and don't sit or stay in the same position too long. If you don't know where to start a good physio can do strength assessments and give you some exercises to do. Dry needling and massage are good complements to an exercise regime. Consistency over time is better than straining yourself too hard.
>>82354721im mid thirtiesi have absolutely zero back pain. i havent had back pain in well over 5 yearswhen i was 20 i used to have a lot of back painfor me what changed was i just stopped eating meat and dairy. i used to eat lot of fried chicken (popeyes and chesters), pizza's, icecreams, chinese foods, etcapparently dietary cholesterol can block arteries in the back, which causes a reduced bloodflow and painim not joking when i say i havent had pack pain in well over 5+ years. not even any, honest to godthese are just my anecdotes, but there is some evidence to suggest this isnt just a isolated anecdote from mehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vG44nMXpTrQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ndqn2cQ1t5wwhat i would recommend is just try not to eat any dietary fat and cholesterol for a month or two maybe, and see if it gets better or worse. if it gets better quite probably dietary>you get back pain from being a lard ass?yes obesity also causes back painhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V2KWMsVooAi understand you probably arent very keen on hearing pro-vegan propaganda (hehe), but the links i posted do have scientific references on the website of the same nameand since you made a thread on the subject, i figured id chime in from the plant-based perspective
>>82355665no my back "pain" is a very mild discomfort if i try to sit straight and like accidentally arch my back, like if i overdo it when sitting up straight i feel the discomfort, so i'm assuming it's the start of something more serious manifesting.really sucks that you have so many health problems anon, that really sucks man. hopefully someday soon they figure out a way to cure ya.
>>82354721just do some pull ups. your back hurts because you have weak muscles that are straining to support you
>>82358541it's crunches that will strengthen the muscles that strain to support you, but pull ups help with restoring proper ROM/reducing resting tightness in your shoulders. I have a pull up bar that I like to just hang from and twist and swing around and every single time it feels like I'm fixing something
>>82354728>>82355672>>82358569Sit ups, not crunches. OP keep your back straight when you do sit ups. And make sure you do leg raises as well
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>>82358636he should get a cold plate or ideally an ashtray
>>82355012those don't train your back retardgo do rowsflexion rows specifically
OP hereguys i can't afford a gym membership, i'm a NEET with no income and all my money from when i did have an income is in crypto so i have no money for a gym membership.so you're saying pull ups will work? i have a gazebo i can hang from and do pull ups from, is that all i gotta do? i can't do any of the equipment exercises
>>82358751if you're untrained you will not be able to do even one pullup so it's uselessbuy some adjustable dumbbells / barbell and do exercises at home.bent over rows is all you need, then do pullups when you can do them properly
>>82354721if the issue really is from sitting. Then look up solutions onlines because there are lots of good and easy physical therapy exercises you can do at home for the lowerback that will provide almost instant relief.
>>82354721>what do i do?my back and neck pain went away from low intensity cardio where your body gets really warm, that usually helps
>>82358751>>82358883bar hangs are just as good if you can't do a full pull-up
>>82358883would calisthenics work?like i said i have zero money.
>>82358883>>82358751you don't need to be able to do one pull up. you can just jump up and then reverse negative or whatever it's called. Basically just jump up and slowly lower yourself as slow as you can. it will train your muscles to be able to do it
>>82358916calisthenics still needs gear to progress. like rings or a bar that hangs low so you can do inverse rows that get progressively harder>>82358922if you start from zero this is shit advice because you won't be able to hold on for even 5 seconds. if you're already strong but not good at pullups then sure. but you need to actually move your muscles in full range of motion to stimulate growth
>>82358894idk brofor me changing my diet workedi literally have the worst posture of all time. pic related, this is how i sit like 8-10 hours a day (when im not gaming) and im just shitposting on 4chanmy head is level with the bottom of my monitori have the absolute worst posture of all time and had it for many years and not a moment of backpain the entire time because of my diet changesi drew a picture to try to illustrate it. ai image models couldnt get it right so i had to do it myselfi didnt know it could get that bad. at my worst at like 20 id have painful spams lying in bed or moving about too much
>>82354721OP I'm struggling with the exact same issue. L4/L5/S1 herniated disc plus tear plus arthritis. Apparently all caused my decades of bad posture at the computer.Here's the protocol I'm using to try to help it:1. Cobra Pose 30 minutes each night minimum - lay in your bed in this pose and browse 4chan on your phone. Basically, we fucked our back by curving it forward, so you'll need to curve it the opposite direction aka Cobra Pose. Think about it, our spine curves forward for hours on end each day, so you need to curve it backwards hours as well (but it's uncomfortable so just start with 15 minutes at a time.) use a pillow for extra height on the curve.2. Cissus and Glucosamine - two excellent supplements shown in studies to help the spine.3. I probably need to buy an inversion chair to decompress the spine4. Go to chiropractor weekly (not sure how much this helps though)
>>82358718they do? when doing push ups your belly shouldn't be resting on the floor and if you didn't use your back when carrying stuff on your shoulders you would fold like a card housealso think about who you are talking to instead of mindlessly regurgitating factoids kiddo
>>82358751do body weight stuff>>82358883>i can't afford to spend money>LOL BRO BUY SOMETHINGretard
>>82358646Karl?
>constant headaches>numbness and soreness in left arm>chest pains>trouble breathing >pain in back of head>always tiredBros I feel like Im breaking down at mid 30s
>>82360096Brother I would start taking Coq10 and magnesium daily. It sounds like a heart issue.Also OP I apologize for not seeing the "I have no money" comment before posting, in that case definitely do Cobra Pose twice a day 30 minutes each (or as long as you can tolerate, in the beginning it might only be five minutes, that's ok, be gentle) and then hang from your pullup bar as many times a day as you can (hanging will decompress your spine.)If you get a little money you can buy Glocasmine from Dollar Tree but otherwise those stretches will definitely help.
