Now that Im 30 I can see why young people arent taken seriously, and they honestly shouldnt be. Itd genuinely be wise I think to raise the voting age to atleast in the 30s. Theres just some information and wisdom that you need life experience to attain. Theres literally no other way. Its that way and not some tother way
>>82499385Now democracies think letting children vote is the future. Not even satire.
>>8249938525 sounds about right, it should also have a cut off age, cause you wont live to see the results of your shitty decisions. 18 made more sense in the past cause you could go to war and shit so it made sense you get to have a say in where the country is heading
>>82499385>im gonna voooooootlmao
>>82499385Voting should not be tied to age, should be tied to1) have a job contributing to society, either an active VAT or a wagie2) have a family, wife/husband and children3) you own land in the country, that means you have a stake in it, and no apartments aren't a stake, you need to own a plot of land with a business or house on it. You should be allowed to vote only if you have these three fulfilled.
>>82499554>you must be Jewish slave to have voteCome on Mosch, this is pathetic even for you
>>82499554jewish kike nonsense>>82499385black and white thinking; he's an invalid, opinion discarded>>82499396"muh democrats!!!!" miga seether>>82499515>It's ROOOOOOGED! IM GONNA THROW AWAY THE ONE THING I CAN ACTUALLY DO!>>82499564basedYeah I'm thinking democracy is cooked and it's time for AI-based socialism. Fuck it boys, you've had too much PFAS.
>>82499564>>82499576>moshe>JewishYou both are retarded, what i described is literally any person with a stake in the future of a country and its nation.Tell me if there's a better way to define someone with their future tied to that nation if not with a job or business, children and property?This is how democracy used to work centuries ago, and this is how it would return.Feel free to explain why I'm wrong, and why retarded teenagers and pensioners should vote.
>>82499385Boomers and old people are worse. My dad forced me to vote for Trump when, originally, I didn't wanted to vote for anyone. He told me that If I didn't vote for Trump he was going to kick me out :(
>>82499385everyone that pay taxes should have the right to vote and that's the end of it
>>82499613It's not like he can read your ballot. You can vote for whoever you want.
>>82499385>there's something, I just can't explain Oh, so like astrology
>>82499564>>82499576Fucking retarded he's genuinely rightWhy should people who are nothing but a drain on systems, have no stake in them working well, and have zero clue what it takes to keep them stable be allowed to vote?Frankly i think democracy is a complete fucking farce to begin with and that only a national syndicalist government can address the concerns of workers and the nations in any way that HOPES to represent people.
>>82499598>Feel free to explain why I'm wrong, and why retarded teenagers and pensioners should vote.Because you still think we should have ANY general democracy lmoaJOSE ANTONIO PRESENTE
>>82499905Holy samefag, shut the fuck up >Im genuinely right
>>82499923Not samefagging I just genuinely fucking hate democracy and people who defend universal suffrage >FUK YEA MAAANG WE NEEDS MO PEEPO VOTIN FO FREE SHIT O ALGO MAAANG>meanwhile all regulation that matters is completely non-democratic
>>82499982the issue with taking peoples vote away is that you are thinking the gov should be ran like a business where people who are "shareholders" have a vote, that's not what a country should be.a country is a community of people, you can't "leech" it, it should just exist and be taken from what you need (not to excess)
>>82499989and jewish money worshiping is EXACTLY what created this fucking problem in the first placemoney does not make you noble
>>82499385>Now that Im 30After you turn 40, you will start saying we need to raise the voter's age to 40.You are a self-absorbed narcissist.
>>82500011>money does not make you nobleYet it makes you rich, and that's what matters.Actually, money per se doesn't even make you rich because inflation is a secret hidden tax that destroys your purchasing power.Assets make you rich. Except that even assets can depreciate, and rather suddenly.So what truly makes you rich is knowing when to buy and when to sell certain assets to maximize your profits and reinvest them into different assets.In other words, insider trading makes you rich.
Politics in every country is rigged by the same group of people lol. They also carry out the political assasinations themselves. Its all theatre. And not only that, but, the politicians themselves are actually aliens. Its pretty scary I guess, I often struggling with comprehending whats going on. This world seems to have been conquered by demonic alien slavers who rape human girls. But, another interpretation is that they have created a fake world designed to torture individual souls. As you can guess, theres not really any good explanation for the aliens presence in the White House. Its all going to be bad, because they are bad aliens.
>>82500026yeah and that's fucking retarded and should be destroyed and the people who do it executed obviously what the fuck?
>>82499989I don't think a government should be ran like a "business", it should be run functionally with ACTUAL representation. Voting doesn't give "representation", it's giving millions of people, many of which who either don't know or DON'T CARE about what it takes to maintain or keep a system stable, voting for general policy.Meanwhile democracy only gives a farce of fairness when most regulation and most state departments aren't democratic at all and are completely infiltrated.Also>a country is a community of people, you can't "leech" it, it should just exist and be taken from what you need (not to excess)Lol. Lmao. Fucking rofl. A lot of people DO take in excess, whether it's welfare queens or the bigger problem of massive banks and capital taking public funds en masse and convincing people to vote for even more to be taken.For the former, at least old fraternal societies made it so that you had to be a part of the community and try to get a job to get benefits unlike Shaquisha who won't ever strive for anything more than the bare minimumMeanwhile people support businesses and banks getting infinite subsidies and bailouts because "well, we just need more regulation to stop them!!" While they are the ones controlling the regulation. Fuck you.
>>82499385Lol. They were pushing that Kirk was a young father that spoke for the youth of right wing america. He guy was 31. You'll always be a young idiot to someone.
>>82500134Representation is a farce. The people who are voted to "represent" constituents have no legal obligation to vote one way or the other: they vote how THEY want.Funny, however, that so many people clamor for democracy, but I don't recall the average person getting a say in Israel having billions guaranteed to them annually; or other such massive spending/measures that have zero say by the voter. This goes for state voting, as well: policies pushed through without a vote by the commoner but are voted on amongst a board."Why, yes, the government is corrupt and inefficient and crony, which is why I think... it should be given MORE money!" This is the thinking I see too often. People claim to think otherwise, but even suggest a hint of wanting to reduce the government and its budget, and the aforementioned sentiment will immediately surface.
>>82500203FUCKING THANK YOU. >Representation is a farce. The people who are voted to "represent" constituents have no legal obligation to vote one way or the other: they vote how THEY want.Yeah that's why when I say it, I mean it less as representation from political figures, I want representation for voter INTERESTS, which can't be achieved under the current system.I agree with all the shit you're saying and it's why Mises Libertarians are genuinely the most correct of all and why Hans Hermann-Hoppe was entirely correct about democracy. I don't think ancap shit is ever really tenable though, since most people can only comprehend rule through a central state, which is why I think National Syndicalism is the best path forward since unions have a far better shot at actually representing the interests of both workers and their industry.
>>82499564>owning land and having a family makes you a goyYeah you're getting compressed into oil to grease train parts when we take over
>>82499989>a country is a community of people, you can't "leech" itAssuming everyone is a rational well-meaning actor is a fatal flaw in a democracy. Every political philosopher has know this for over a thousand years.
