so i am an ugly woman (which woman who browses this website isn't amirite XD). my genetics are already unfortunate but on top of that, i shower once or twice a month, my body is completely out of shape, my hair is always tangled and greasy, my brows are always unkempt, my body hair is like a hirsute's because i hate shaving, my skin is covered in blackheads and acne, i never wear makeup or use feminine products, i only wear dark oversized comfy clothes. basically i don't follow a single beauty routine. why? because they are so fucking uncomfortable! beauty is pain. feminine self care is literally the worst thing ever and i would rather die than do it. i never liked doing girly shit and envied moids for having to do it. so it is baffling that a man who doesn't have to do these things would go out of his way to wax his entire body, do makeup, dress in uncomfortable skimpy clothes. i honestly just don't get it. is it for male attention? i look the horrible way i do and i can still get it. you don't have to bimbomax to get dick so why do it? are you just a masochist?
Make a voca reading any two sentences from your OP. Thank you, sir.
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>>82571836kill yourself whore gtfo
>>82571836I am blackpilled but it does feel pretty good not having to do any of that shit as a guy
>>82571836it's their fetish. The pain and discomfort are exciting to them.
>>82571841https://voca.ro/1aZXHoqW8T38
>>82571856oh my science her voice is so affirming :transheart:
>>82571862https://voca.ro/12mswm0p1SBG
>>82571836most troons don't really go that far, whether it's the online social media one or the irls i assume the high effort ones you're thinking of are a fraction of a fraction of their group
>>82571841no>>82571849it is so relaxing living without following retarded beauty routines but people comment on the fact that you don't do them constantly, if i was a man they wouldn't.>>82571855it has to be the masochism, i cannot make sense of it otherwise.>>82571855literally me fr
>>82571836Why don't you ask this question about other women?
>>82571856I can hear your vent
>>82571900fan**The mechanical object spinning.
>>82571900https://voca.ro/1apeLz9vrUa4
>>82571871i don't know any irl but the ones i see online are always eager to follow painful and uncomfortable beauty practices which is insanity to me, like you literally don't have to do any of that, you're a man, you don't need to look like a bimbo to get dick.>>82571890because they are pressured by society into doing these things, men are not. however i also think real women should stop following these retarded routines too. men aren't so why should we?
>>82571836>I don't conform to beauty standards because they're uncomfortableValid. But half the shit you don't "conform" to are health standards.Makeup can be fun (as an expectation its stupid though). Fashion is interesting, I wear cool clothed mainly to make friends. I shave because it stops me from smelling and I find body hair uncomfortable. Oh and I'm a straight cis male before someone calls me trans.Most beauty standards aren't that bad really. It's only when they're actually unhealthy that it impacts regular people.
>>82571936ok but i do not have any health problems. modern society is too obsessed with perfection. like showering every day is absolutely nuts. in no point of human history, people did the stuff i listed with the obsession we do them now. if not doing them was unhealthy we all would have died a long time ago.
>>82571836I know it can be hard but there are still some things you can change.
>>82571836> i look the horrible way i do and i can still get it. you don't have to bimbomax to get dick so why do it? are you just a masochist?This is a reason why. You can be loved even when you aren't putting in the effort.
>>82571969You wash as often as a medieval peasant, who notoriously didn't live long. You're out of shape, which is the biggest indicator for health problems (diabetes, cancer and heart failure). Achne and greasy hair is quite literally bad skin and scalp health.You might be problem free now but you won't be when you hit 40+.>we all would have died a long time agoNo because people have children from 15-30, before their unhealthy lifestyles catch up with them.
>>82571836It feels good to be pretty, and it's really not that painful or time-consuming.
>>82571985why fix something that isn't broken?>>82572018eh i am sure i will live long but even if i don't, at least i lived comfortably. none of these things are necessary for health, our ancestors weren't doing them every day.>>82572047no it is absolutely that painful and time consuming. i cannot overstate how much of a pain in the ass beauty is.
>>82571836>shower a lot more>shampoo your hair and use conditioner>pluck your eyebrows>shaving takes like 30 minutes every few days, what the hell woman?>use skincare products and cleansersDude, I look like an asian version of Bukowski and I still pull
>>82572100>no it is absolutely that painful and time consuming. i cannot overstate how much of a pain in the ass beauty is.It's like 2 hours a week max and the benefit to my psyche is immense.
>>82572108of course an asian would have no clue how inconvenient shaving is, it's because you can't grow any fucking body hair.
>>82572124I've got a fucking snail trail, foidI'm not those "oh i rove eating frogs and dogs ^_^" kinda asianI'm "my men work less than min wage and my women are cum dumpsters for tourists" kinda asianpic related is literally me with longer, shoulder-length hair, acne scars, and a goatee
>>82572047OP is male so it is a lot more time consuming for them to pass
>>82572120umm 2 hours a week? you are clearly a man or a woman who does not practice the beauty routines as often as its expected from women so why are you speaking like you are?>>82572161well you lucked out in the body hair genes area because i grow more than you do as a woman so it is easier for you to manage it. asians usually don't struggle with that. they have other difficult beauty routines though so feminine self care expectations are still brutal there. the entire world is like that. i feel like a rebel.
>>82572100Thought you wanted to change and be like other girls?
>>82572176i am just an ugly woman but you are obviously a moid because you have no fucking idea how time consuming beauty truly is for women. not just ugly ones for me but the average woman. just shut the fuck up when it comes to topics you know nothing about maybe.>>82572195where did i say i want to change? i repeatedly said all these beauty expectations are uncomfortable, inconvenient, painful.
>>82572184You just need a willing moid to shave it for youI could be the guy
>>82571836It's a fetish, they are masochists who view being a woman as the ultimate humiliation. It's why you can't shame them because they jerk off to it later. The only solution to the tranny problem is to boil industrial bleach with jolly ranchers and throw it on them
>>82572213You dont have to follow them. No one will force you
>>82572184>umm 2 hours a week? you are clearly a man or a woman who does not practice the beauty routines as often as its expected from women so why are you speaking like you are?Well I'm not including showers or getting dressed or any of the other things I did before transitioning (and enjoy anyway). Hair removal cream once a week + makeup daily comes to less than 2 hours a week. Accessories and perfumes are negligible.>>82572228You're completely wrong.
"You're completely wrong." he says while jerking his cock.
>>82572224wow that's one way to completely ruin a man's attraction.>>82572228i really cannot think of another reason why anyone bimbofies themselves if it's not social pressure, it is nothing but physical and mental pain.>>82572269like you would know as a moid.>>82572315oh you are a trans. i don't know any trannies irl but the ones i see online look like they take hours and i just don't get it. feminine beauty routines are inconveniently time consuming and for real women, it is expected for you to follow them every day or you get negged. for what? like i said, you don't need to do these things to attract men, i am such a slob and even i can get it.
>>82572351>like you would know as a moid.Im not a man. So I kind of understand what you mean.
>>82572351>wow that's one way to completely ruin a man's attraction.You really want someone that accepts you for you huh? No compromise whatsoever?
>>82572351I'm not trying to attract men, I'm trying to be beautiful.
>>82572381i 100% support women not following beauty standards but you cannot argue society doesn't pressure us to perform them>>82572411i want someone that takes me as i am but what i meant was you should not involve a man in your self care routines if you do them, it would ruin his attraction to you.>>82572416i always thought that's a massive cope, everyone is doing that for other people imo. if you were stranded alone on an island you wouldn't even think to put on makeup.
>>82572315I am not wrong at all. AGP factors for nearly every single case of trans women because they are gay men with a deeply wrong fetish. Pooners tend to romanticize gay relationships either due to pornography or trauma (usually both) and destroy their bodies as a result because being gay means having shit on your dick.
>>82572351To the Troon, bimbos are all that women are. They are just a hot body and being fucked. Never mistake that, they are not the friends of women. They hate women more than anyone else
>>82572481>because they are gay menThose would be HSTS though. AGPs are not really attracted to men, just the sissification process. That can include the humilation of submitting to other men but it's not necessary.
>>82572481AGP has nothing to do with humiliation and barely anything to do with masochism.
>>82572512Wrong. AGP is just the polite and clinical term for sissification fetish.
>>82571836if you dont take care of yourself even as a man youd end up even more unlikableguess how much time any male model spends doing his hair? how much time gigachad spends in the gym? how much time kpoop guys spend on perfecting their face?even from a evolutionary standpoint>greasy hairlice and bacteria in it>out of shapedie from predators>no showerdirty and carrier of bacteria (even though it probably wont affect you)>acneshit diet>body hairthis is the only valid complain, i recommend lasering it off
>>82572445Yes I agree it can be hard not to follow them. Thats why I dont follow everything only things I like
>>82572525yeah but do men get negged for not doing makeup or having body hair? i don't see what beauty trends have to do with evolution since they change all the time.>>82572526i have never found joy in it personally so i still don't get it but you expressed your perspective respectfully so whatever floats your boat i guess, it is still fucked up of society to force these things on women since like you mentioned, they are painful and tedious.
>>82572525Yea i'm a guy and when I was at my lowest and not taking care of myself (greasy hair, huge unkempt neckbeard, showering 1-2 times a week) I was avoided like the plague. Now that I've been taking care of myself people are a hell of a lot more pleasant. I don't know why fembots think we don't have to do any self care, like sure we don't need to spend an hour doing makeup or doing our hair but neither do they, as long as you do the basics everything is fine.
>>82572653no we dont do makeup but does the average girl spend 10 hours each week running and gymming?also alot of men do skincare including me. it takes like 3min max to apply some jewcream and get better skinself maintenence is not a beauty trend, in the past youll get kicked out of your tribe for being a disease carrier with no ability to work/produce healthy children
>>82572445>you should not involve a man in your self care routines if you do them, it would ruin his attraction to you.Christ, you really are an honest-to-God femcel
>>82572772self maintenance is absolutely a trend, humans were not doing these things 100, 500, 1000 years ago. their self care habits were either non existent or different. yet we are still here. our modern understanding of beauty is artificial and these standards are not necessary. they are not healthy, they are the opposite of it.
>>82571836i don't do any of those beauty routines, i just shower in the morning and brush my teeth and i have a loving bf. all the makeup and clothes is really to one-up other women, which i have no interest in doing
>>82571836its painful to see ourselves as the masculine way we were bornwe kinda have to go out of our way to releave that pain by what ever means necessaryXD
>>8257210830 minutes??? In a 10 minute shower i manage to wash hair, soap and shave (armpits!+arms+ legs) the first time might take a long time cz long hair gets trapped in thr razor but 30nminutes??? That's only for beards probably
>>82571922>men aren't so why should we?Because women are valued for their looks and men are valued for their status and charisma (rizz).It's honestly way easier to lookmaxx than it is to statusmaxx (unless you are born rich), that's why men say women live on easy mode
Kys you false flag faggotYou can't assemble an army of me to kill myself,I know you're hostile
>>82574018I have long hair, I need the time for my special shampoo to set in, then I have to use conditioner to make it fluffy and then let that set in tooI do my skincare at the same time so I save some time with that; cleanser, face wash, moisturizer
>>82574056In the shower? Your a retard. That's such a waste of money.
>>82574080>Your a retardI get that a lotWhere else do you reccommend doing it then?
>>82574088its a shower not a spa. do the stuff ended and then step out. also, its face wash and then cleanser
>>82574115I'm a moid, anonI can use jet fuel on my face and it'll still look goodAh, the wonders of being the superior gender!
>>82574127And you probably use motor oil as toothpaste and dry your face with sandpaper ;)
>>82574127bitch, i had to wash my face with dawn the other say while fishing and i broke out bc it wasnt my normal soap. men are such lucky bitches. but anyways, your cleanser isnt doing shit if your washing it off right after, so much for the superior gender. use your brain retard
>>82574144I use basic colgate for that and I dry my face with the same towel I use to dry my ballsI smoke cigarettes and drink tons of booze, girls still talk to me for whatever reason
>>82574164Use different towels or something because why would you want that on your face.
>>82571836Can we swap? I'm an ugly balding incel. If you were in my shoes I'd give you about a month before you kill yourself. Personally I'd be happy to do my makeup if I were a woman. I'd be thankful that society encourages me to use makeup to hide my physical flaws. Men are seen as feminine and deranged if they use makeup, you don't know how lucky you are to have this crutch.
Majority of Transwomen are 'lesbians' (aka straight men) so it's mostly to attract women.
>>82574185and you would kill yourself if you had to follow all this painful shit i listed that everyone expects women to follow. it's not a competition.
>>82574180Eh, I'm too lazy to go out and buy another towelIf it works, it works>>82574152>cleanser isnt doing shit if your washing it off right afterI'm taking notesAny more tips, bby?Every few days I put on a charcoal face mask too, a twink friend of mine reccomended it to me
>>82571856Kek the nanny on r9k
>>82574217Just be careful because it can go wrong.+ charcoal masks are not that good for the face and can make thing worse (depending on the person)
>>82574217>bby*_* But yea, charcoal as in you peel it? Masks shoukd be creamy qnd you wash them with water. The peeling ones that hurt only irritate your skin. Dont use any products if they have alcohol in the list of ingredients and most woman stay away from skin care with fragrances because they can be irritating. Idk about your superior race masculine skin though
>>82574235Bitch I was talking to him, kys nigger. I hate it when people do that, dont awnser for me. I'll find your house and send you shit on a box.
>>82574203>and you would kill yourself if you had to follow all this painful shit i listedNo, I wouldn't. I would revel in all the positive reinforcement and attention I get for being born with a vagina. I'd be happy to be seen as a pretty girl instead of the subhuman goblin that I am right now. You have no idea how badly people treat you when you're an ugly man. Imagine your very existence being the butt of all jokes and everyone making fun of you wherever you go. Imagine being expected to ask women out when you're so ugly you can barely look at yourself in the mirror. Try to imagine all that just for a second.
>>82574235>>82574249>taking notesThanks, anons'ppreciate itY'know, I first got into this whole thing to impress someone, but things didn't work out and since it's been part of my routine for like 3 months now, I said "might as well"I'll try to keep it lowkey with the mask then>Idk about your superior race masculine skin thoughpeep >>82572161Idk, I just feel good when I look good imo
>>82574373Ha your brown
>>82574429part-chinese (un)fortunately
>>82574453So like if the Chinese become our overlords, do you benefit?
>>82574595https://youtu.be/mN9f5Y1tjco?si=T9PcSYczLWCGfp4Wone step above the natives but one step below the Chinese
>>82574696Im judging your music taste. Your in Asia right? Tell me how to stop idolizing the japanse girls in my pintrest. Im envious of their silky black hair and petiteness
>>82574731You know the answer already, different folks have different hair types and different body compositionI'm asian, I know I won't ever look good in cornrows so I'm not gonna do thatand being a stocky guy myself, I'm not gonna wear stuff that's made for twinks Just do you, anonPlay the cards you're dealt with, your body is your own
>>82574925im jealous of them
>>82574942and that's okay, that's validBut they have their strengths and you, I'm assuming you're a white woman, have yours Each of us are beautiful in our own way
>>82574971i blame too much anime at a young age. my nose its too tall and has heavy visual weight.
>>82575015Seems like we're the only ones hereYou wanna continue this convo over on Discord? Drop your tag, nonny
>>82575329no you ill get spamed cz im a woman
>>82575367@anonfromtheseatime difference'll fuck us over eventually but we'll see eh?
The little effort I put in is simply to feel better about myself. Doing so makes me feel like I'm not worthless and rotting away slowly (which I am)
>>82571836how old are you?are you fat?also go take a shower ew
>>82571836> i look the horrible way i do and i can still get itfemceldom is a fiction
>>82575811> i can still get itholy fuckits over
>>82571836Being male is a humiliation ritual if you are not alpha.Think of how gross the average short out of shape man is to you. The beard, hairiness and receding hairline.I get why trannies do what they do. It's delusional and taking hormones does not make you a woman but I get why you would not want to stay male.All those beauty routines you talk about you even admit doesn't matter.It's not men that enforce them. Most of them don't give a shit. As a man you are expected to be strong and fit though unless you were born lucky you have to toil away at the gym to achieve an adequate physique that both women and other men will respect.
>>82571836lolto be free sis, we choose to be free...
>>82571836im not trans either but i love the way female clothing feels. pantyhose and girdles and shapewear feels heavenly on your skin, do you wear any legwear fembot?women have no idea how lucky they are to have as many clothing choices as they have, as a man youre restricted to>jeans>shirt>jacket>boxers, briefs
>>82571836You're making me so curious, I wish I could see your visage.
>>82571836Why do trannies love making threads where they LARP as "fembots"?
>>82571836Spergs troon out because even being a hilarious mockery of a female is better than being their true selves
