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How do you find a sugar mommy?

Let's say you're an 8/10+ man and you don't care about getting the hottest girl, even though you stand a realistic chance. Let's say your primary concern is money and the quality of life that comes from it.

I know from actual personal experience that, as long as you're not always socially isolated, that you will occasionally come across women with money who show interest in you. (At the very least, you can live in their nice, big house, and she'll cover the utilities and food.)

It seems like this is the only way to meet sugar mommies. The way I met that woman who showed interest in having me stay over at her nice place was through a craigslist ad I posted for feet massage. I guess you could also do it through other websites like fetlife. (I've never even used that site, so I don't know.) Are there any places on the internet where you can meet sugar mommies, or is it really a numbers game, where even if you're a very attractive man, you just have to go out and meet people and socialize enough until you get lucky and find one?

Also, how often are sugar mommies actually younger than you? I've had one or two anons on here tell me stories about getting spoiled by women who were a few years younger than them. I had a friend tell me a few days ago about a man who was dating a woman around 7 or 8 years younger than him (I think she was 23 and he was 31.) who was essentially his sugar mommy. She was somehow making a few hundreds of thousands of dollars a year and had a really nice house and would take care of all the guy's financial needs. Crazy shit like this happens sometimes.
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>>82583611
>Let's say your primary concern is money and the quality of life that comes from it.
>inb4 just figure out how to make tons of money
Some of us are mentally ill. I should've been more specific.
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>>82583611
You could pimp out your gf on OF. An ex and I considered making her a e-celeb kinda of like ciara 10 years ago but monetizing it more like belle delphine. Otherwise find a 40's something high income cougar and make sure you keep yourself in shape.
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>>82583611
can it still be considered a sugar mommy if i live with my parents and am jobless but use my auti neetbuxx to pay for some guy to spend time with me, fly out to me, go on vacations with me, and give the guy gifts? and getting nothing in return (no sex, touching, or anything)? im thinking of doing this if i make it to 21 as a single khhv (because when i turn 21 ill get $2300-$3500 monthly)
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>>82583683
>because when i turn 21 ill get $2300-$3500 monthly
How?
I'm based in the US, and I receive NEETbux, but I only get a bit less than $1000 in cash each month directly deposited into my bank account. I also get I believe $240 for food each month through my health insurance. I don't count the free dental and health insurance I receive.

I'm OP, and I started this thread because, as a very neurotic mentally ill person with chronic insomnia since I was at least 13 (I'm 25 now.), getting in shape (I'm already jacked; I just need to lose some more fat.) and getting a wealthy woman seems like my most realistic bet at securing a future that isn't poverty. I depend on my boomer dad for housing and other expenses, and if something happens to him, I'm fucked.
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>>82583811
im not from the US and we have way better government assistance for disabilities here

i wish you luck in that endavour. hopefully life doesnt screw you over, you should try make some sorta plan for yourself if you cant get a rich woman
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>>82583881
>im not from the US and we have way better government assistance for disabilities here
That still seems like a ton of cash. People in the US get pissed that the most disabled people here get a bit less than $1000 in cash each month. They view that as too much.
>i wish you luck in that endavour.
Thank you.
>you should try make some sorta plan for yourself if you cant get a rich woman
I don't really have much of a plan. I'd like to go to college to get a degree in STEM, like engineering or mathematics. I believe I could get such a degree, but I feel like finding a job for it with my disabilities and the accommodations they would need to make for me would be very difficult, and I would just end up with a ton of student loan debt. This makes pursuing any degree very risky. I could also lose my NEETbux as a consequence. I'm still trying to improve myself in various other aspects of life, though. I'm going to start a workout pretty soon and get some things done on my to do list.
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>>82584092
its supposed to be enough to live (tho it isnt really here when you live alone, and i cant live alone or with strangers, so my plan is to die when my mother does). the US doesnt care whether a disabled person lives or dies, youre burdens on the system to that shithole lmao

still better to try so you at least have something rather than nothing at all, maybe you should try for something thats wfh and casual so you have wiggle room for your disabilities rather than stem where youd have to go in and do shit a lot. just give it some thought, no need to decide on those things yet
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>>82584156
>the US doesnt care whether a disabled person lives or dies, youre burdens on the system to that shithole lmao
You are absolutely right.

>rather than stem where youd have to go in and do shit a lot
I legitimately enjoy learning STEM. I've done various DIY projects that involve STEM knowledge, self-education, and experimentation. I feel like it would also be very fulfilling to have a career in STEM as long as it wouldn't be a job where I have to show up from X time to Y time or show up for too many meetings. These two things would be intolerable for my insomnia.

Finding a wealthy woman seems like it would be super comfy by comparison, especially with the financial stability. Even if I were successful in this endeavor, it wouldn't be wise to just count on her for everything. If something bad happened in the relationship, I would be at risk for homelessness.

I've actually been considering doing something risky like drug dealing to at least just build up some cash in the short term that I could use to invest later. Literally buying a house and having it paid for would eliminate a ton of my anxiety. Maybe I could become a gunsmith or somebody who actually builds guns from parts kits and sells them online. You actually need a house that you or a close friend or family member owns in order to get an FFL. Having a decent amount of money would give me way more flexibility when it comes to finding ways to make money. A ton of my mental issues would seriously be alleviated if someone technically gave me around $3,000,000 in cash. That would be the best medication for my neuroticism. I'm sure my childhood trauma would stick fuck me over to some extent when it comes to neuroticism in general, though.
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>>82583683
can you just do this with me now? pretty pretty please?
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>>82584265
just make sure theres career paths that can work for you then. dont get into shit like drug and arms dealing tho, youre begging for a bad time thinking of doing shit like that. dont be stupid

>>82584306
i dont get paid as much neetbuxx now as i would at 21, besides:
>if im sugaring i want the dude to at least be decently attractive as to show off a bit
>i still have hope ill get into a real relationship
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>>82584373
>dont get into shit like drug and arms dealing tho
I wouldn't do arms dealing, just drug dealing. I want to do gun stuff legally in the US with a license. It's just that so many options for making money already require you to have some money to begin with, and I don't really have any. I'm grateful for my NEETbux, but it would take me an entire year just to save up a few thousands of dollars to invest. Tons of people get into illegal shit, especially drugs, just to make a decent amount of money in the short-term, then get out of the business, and do something legal that makes decent money. My dad and I know somebody whom we suspect did just this. He's in his 50s and makes 7 figures through real estate investment now.
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>>82584514
i mean hey its your life dude just be careful
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>>82584373
>dude to at least be decently attractive
if you like skinny hairy, budget Jesus looking guys that could word
>i still have hope ill get into a real relationship
can i get a bookmark or reserved seat if fails?
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>>82584373
>>82584514
Also, as for the drug dealing, the reason why it's so appealing to me is because I know how to get drugs for really cheap through the dark net. It's a skill that almost nobody has. Tons of people don't even believe buying drugs through the dark net is a real thing. They'll think you're full of shit if you tell them. I've done a bit of research, and the potential profit margins are really high. I would just need to be careful with whom I'm dealing with and the way I find clients. I've already done some research and asked around, and I'm going to do quite a bit more before I even go out to attempt anything. There's also a few things I need to get in order beforehand.
>>82584543
>i mean hey its your life dude just be careful
Don't worry. You're nice, anon.
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>>82584566
ehhh idk man im more of a muscly, not super hairy type of person but id put it into consideration ig. my type doesnt matter as long as the guy is conventionally above average because like i said if im paying i want people to be jealous

youre gonna be waiting til end of next year, are you really that desperate for cash
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>>82584573
thanks man

do people really not believe that buying drugs online is a real thing? thought everyone knew about it, just not many can actually do it
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>>82584586
not cash, desperate for love :^)
im a dirty neet autist so no girl wants me
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>>82584595
>do people really not believe that buying drugs online is a real thing?
Yes. There are people who refuse to believe others when they tell them stories that seem like they're from a movie, whether criminal or sexual.
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i would a neet chad bf but i'd probably lock him inside with cameras every inch of my house otherwise i'd be afraid he'd cheat on me. i make ~600k tc.
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>>82584624
a sugar situation wouldnt be love at all. thered be no love or physical affection. id pretty much be paying you to hang out with me and make me not look like a loser and make it look like i was going on dates. itll totally be a status and monetary thing
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>>82584670
I would love to be the sugar baby of such a woman. That would be so hot.
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>>82584657
yeah, i guess that makes sense
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>>82584682
A lot of people have heard of dark net markets, but they might think they used to be a thing of the past or that it's a common fictional thing that people talk about, since they can't imagine how such a system would work.
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>>82584670
>i make ~600k tc.
what does tc mean?
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>>82584712
total compensation, i.e. salary+bonuses+equity
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>>82583611
Find a new, large cookie-cutter home neightborhood which has a local "watering hole" on site (a bar or restaurant) and go there during happy hour. It's guaranteed to have divorcee women looking to validate themselves with a younger man. Just show up and talk to them, that's it. If you're what they're looking for they will make it obvious they are intersteed. Take it from there.
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>>82584734
Only problem is I'm 34 and there is no happy hour in my state.
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>>82584675
what if paid, but with physical affection?
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>>82584734
>>82584771
What is happy hour? I've never been to a bar before. I'm 25, but I was an alcoholic in my early 20s getting my alcohol from the liquor store, grocery store, and gas station. Covid damaged me.
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>>82584792
i want to stay a khhv. if im paying, i call the shots
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>>82584816
A set time where things are cheaper, which usually means more people.
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>>82584821
sure id be fine with that
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>>82584847
well like i said, need.to wait til im 21 to do this shit so come back in a year and make sure youre physically 7/10+
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>>82584670
Why not a chad bf who earns as much as you do? Are you fat?
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>>82584670
>chad again
le sigh
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>>82584941
if people are paying for it they may as well be paying for someone attractive, right?
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>>82584898
then i have no power over him, but also i'm pretty ugly
>>82584941
why would you get a top .01%er life if you're mid. should've studied in school.
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>>82583683
>sugaring
>no sex
Sweaty...
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>>82584997
whats the issue? im paying someone to look like theyre dating me. i asked if it was sugaring or not lmao

if sugaring requires actual intimacy then it isnt
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>>82584670
>>82584718
How old are you, anon? I'm 25.
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>>82583683
What is the point of this if you aren't going to make them fuck you?
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>>82585034
Sugar relationships are sexual by nature. If there is no sex it's not sugaring.



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