On any post with an attractive woman on social media you see dozens of comments from male profiles saying things like "mommy" or "step on me", or they're drooling over features that have traditionally been considered unattractive in women; stretch marks, muscles, big bellies, "goth" aesthetics, etc.This is so far removed from traditional male horniness and it's a total turn-off. I think that young men feel more comfortable expressing lust this way because traditional male expressions of sexuality have been framed as predatory in the last 15-20 years. The Zoomer method of flirting bypasses this by presenting yourself as the prey. But that doesn't turn women on. Most men (I think?) already know this but they continue anyways. Why?
How would the posts be under the traditional male horniness
have you considered that the unprecedented explosion in the numbers of single mothers who are shit parents could be a factor
You thinking this deeply about submissive men makes you a faggot
>>82632908Idk I come from a functional family with both parents and wasn't groomed or bullied during developmental years and I am still submissive (though not in the 'step on me mommy' way, that is admittedly a bit cringe).Maybe it's just that people today are allowed to express their preferences more freely than say 50 years ago so you see it as being more prominent
>>82632898>because traditional male expressions of sexuality have been framed as predatory in the last 15-20 years.For non Chad's.95% zoomers men can't compete with Chad and they know it so they seek alternative styling to avoid direct Chad competition.
>>82632898They have to be memeing or really alienated from reality and encouraged by the clout farmers.
>>82632898Its kind of true tho, culture shifted to where women hold all the cards, they want guys who are hot and pose no risk, so this is the result. An entire generation of mentally raped men
>>82632898>This is so far removed from traditional male horniness and it's a total turn-off.Exactly why they're so bold. Zoomzoomies are not looking to get into your panties. They're admitting defeat before they even say any of those stuff. They're well aware they have no chance so why not have fun. On the offchance that you do give them a chance, they instantly fold under pressure. They want the idea not the actual thing.
>>82632898Another modern weirdness is guys into>feet>armpits>smelly>unkempt>mentally ill>"chubby"They're all fucking insane
>>82632947pornography breeds more and more intense fetishization, leading zoomers to stranger and stranger fetishes. I don't really think the first 2 and last one are really that bad, but the desire for a mentally ill gf is fucking retarded. it's always bpd and it always ends horribly.
>>82633032>not that badyou're being part of the problem anon and I'm not saying that in the meme "be the whole problem" sense
>>82633040the fetishization of chubby women has always been a thing, footfags are weird and same with pitfags, but that is nothing in comparison to mentally ill women.
are girls in cute clothes a weird fetish to have?
>>82632898>male expressions of sexuality have been framed as predatory in the last 15-20 yearsThat has been going on since 1970s. Seriously, watch jurassic park 1993, and listen to the woman yap about how sexist it is to attempt to protect wahmen.>>82632923>I come from a functional family with both parentsIf you ended up here, they didnt raise/parent you. I am similar.
>>82632898it's just safe horny, most of them probably aren't that into femdom
>>82632898Noone born after 1980 knows "traditional male horniness". All you have is millennial cucks and zoomer puppyboys
>>82633489i'm more of a zoomer abused dog
>>82633496*pats head* *throws tennis ball*
>>82632898>but they continue anyways. Why?Because it's the only way non Chads can express their sexuality nowadays. It doesn't work but neither does anything else they could do and because they're all low test and don't want to make anyone uncomfortable they stick to what they perceive as their best choice to get female attention
>>82633273Meh I am mostly a functional adult other than having not having a gf and having trouble making deep friendships (I am good with people it's always shallow)
>>82632898>but they continue anyways. Why?Because no one cares what women think
I think it got to the point that they don't care about persuing anybody now They like the idea not the reality It's pretty much porn addiction from what I see This sort of people would NEVER survive a real committed relationship lmao
>>82632898im submissive because women like this exist. No further explanation needed.
>>82632898A lot of it is just pure desperation, as they are automatically incel now. They play into the girlboss shit just to get a crumb of pussy, and it never works.I'd say that MILFs have been a mainstream fetish since American Pie, so it's natural that it also ties into a hopeless belief of unconditional love from a foid.
>>82633574>>82633604I think it really depends on the kind of 'femdom' they have in mind. Most of what you see online is very cringe indeed: dommy mommy stuff, bitchy bratty girlboss stuff, porn-brained latex bitch stuff etc.However, there is also kinds of such relationships where it can be nice. Like personally, when I say I want a dominant gf, I mean it in the sense that I want her to be assertive, to occasionally initiate stuff, be a bit possessive, likes teasing you in a haughty way etc. Essentially, don't be a vapid starfish that only reacts to outside stimuli. But also don't be some bratty girlboss that pegs you every night or a dommy mommy that babies you.
>>82633653I always liked MILFs, and also GILFs, and want one for myself.Not the dominating thing, but I'd appreciate an assertive woman who made it clear that she wanted to fuck me.Sadly, I am 39 and still incel as fuck. Even the over 50s I occasionally match with refuse to speak, or be direct about sex.
>>82633538No I get that. What I meant is that your peers have raised you (and maybe the internet) And your social skills have suffered as a result.
>>82632947>feet>armpits>smelly>chubbyThese are not "modern" and have existed since humans are a thing.
>>82632898What ''traditional'' period are you even talking about?
>>82634210This. There are writings on the erotic nature of feet going back to the Greeks. The idea that humans all of a sudden became degenerates is nonsense. The internet has just exposed the depravity for all the see.
>>82632898You are blaming a symptom as though it is the source of the problem. The problem is that technology made men too comfortable and it stopped the weak ones from being killed off. Now generations of wimps have compounded. If this did not happen then men would not have tolerated the pussification.
>>82634371European civilisation was build on culling aggressive males and promoting reproduction of the meek. This is regarding plebs.Among aristocracy it was opposite but aristocracy was 2-3% of euro population.
>>82634476I've said this a good 10 or 20 times but you're the first one to even reply. But I think we have another problem, pic related.
>>82632898Then date millenial, Beanie. I'll make proper mother out of you.
>>82632898We need cheap legal prostitution to return so all these guys can get some head and pussy like men instead of grovelling to e-girls on all facets of the internet, especially how they orbit discord women. It is so fucking disgraceful. >>82634476This
>>82632898>think that young men feel more comfortable expressing lust this way because traditional male expressions of sexuality have been framed as predatory in the last 15-20 years. The Zoomer method of flirting bypasses this by presenting yourself as the prey. But that doesn't turn women onI think this is true where it applies but not enough for it to be a generality. You'll notice higher status zoomer men don't flirt this way. And I don't think any of them unironically post in a public comment section "step on me mommy" and expect there to be reciprocation, it's ironic faggotry.Ultimately it boils down to the same thing everyone on this board has been talking about for more than a decade. Are you attractive or not? This determines your game plan
Interesting thread with plausible theories, all within reason. I think another factor is actual, biological changes from both pollutants and soil nutrient depletion so you not only you have women that look like men and men that look like women, but the attractive features of these got switched.>>82634371>>82634476These 2 specially, good points. Though I have my doubts about such a big change happening in a mere what? 50 years? No doubt the direction things are taking tho
>>82633653A good femdom is fairly normal most of the time but sexually aggressive and possibly a bit violent in bed or when initiating. She'd also be attracted to your pleasure.I think it must be very very rare.
>>82632898My father died when I was young and my mother is a manipulative narcissistic cunt. My whole life everything I've ever done was wrong. Even if I set the table and put the napkins down a certain way I was yelled at for doing it wrong. The trauma is crazy and I didn't learn how to handle my anxieties until the age of 30. It was fixed by kicking my mom out of my life, quitting alcohol, reading philosophy (jung/watts/dostoevsky) and daily exercise/lifting. I was a train wreck for majority of my life because of my mother
>>82632908I like it when women remind me of my abusive single mom.
>>82632908You're not supposed to notice or point that one out, especially not in relation to one's likeliness to commit crimes.
>>82632898>I think that young men feel more comfortable expressing lust this way because traditional male expressions of sexuality have been framed as predatory in the last 15-20 years.It has nothing to do with that. You have entire generations of boys raised on the bottle, thrown in a daycare, and put in front of an ipad 24/7 who have never bonded with their mothers a day in their lives. Basically every young guy now has mommy issues because of feminism.
>>82632898>I want the man to do all the work because I am a princess and I deserve allGrow up, you're an adult now.
>>82635855Pretty much. Such a relationship for the most part should be like any 'vanilla' relationship except your gf would be more assertive and maybe tease you a bit when she wants to have some fun. And then on ocassions, she will pin you against a wall, leave a bit mark on your neck and demand you go lick her pussy.However, being a sub doesn't mean being a cowardly doormat nor does being a dom entitle one to behave abusively and make relationships decidions on their own. And it's cringy when people think that or think they want that. It sounds like it would get annoying very fast.
>>82632947"Home in three days. Don't bathe." - Napoleon Bonaparte to Josephine.
