Why do people discuss abortion?No amount of evidence will change the mind of someone that wants to kill their own children. They don't actually care if the baby is sentient, if he feels pain, when life starts, etc. It's all a smokescreen to excuse their behavior
Why do you care? Less existence is a good thing. Not only should people stop reproducing, but women who get abortion arent going to propagate according to your values either. And no, a fetus isnt sentient, less sentient than cattle actually. Nor does it have pain reception until third trimester. Take it to pol. Also you are a faggot
>>82633680>Less existence is a good thingPeople that support abortion are all antinatalist, nihilist or some kind of depressed fag that hates the world and they try to convince you that's a good thing I don't care much about abortion, but anyone that supports it shouldn't be taken seriously. They're all mentally ill people that hate themselves
>>82633625Because both sides want to make their worldview and values dominant. I personally don't care either way, have an abortion or don't, just don't try to say yours is the correct worldview or that you are somehow a better person for doing or not doing it
>>82633735So? Sorry chud, but apart of the world is the negative, and you need to learn to accept that. This also includes negative people. Any pro life person should be happy that people with mental or ideological disturbances have the choice to not spread those tendencies onto new lives.
>>82633756>just don't try to say yours is the correct worldview or that you are somehow a better person for doing or not doing itThat's so retarded. Imagine the same discussion for murder>What, you think murder is bad? Okay, but don't push your ideals to everyone else. You aren't a better person for thinking that's bad
>>82633758Then kill yourself faggot instead of being a nigger nihilist online. You provide zero value please do it
>>82633784Why would I kill myself? That statement isnt pro life of you. What Im saying is that abortion is a good way to have political / value selection in your favor. But alas, you take this as a personal attack for whatever reason. Youll be okay. Maybe instead of moralfagging you should try being more optimistic and looking at the bright side of things
>>82633758>Any pro life person should be happy that people with mental or ideological disturbances have the choice to not spread those tendencies onto new livesThey won't have kids, but they shove their worldview on other's people's children. That's even worse. Just look at the academy, most propagate those ideas even if they're childless That's like saying that gay people won't propagate because they can't have kids
>>82633807What is being shoved down their throats? That there should be a choice not to give birth in case of pregnancy? Thats just simply a perfectly reasonable right I fear
>>82633803>but apart of the world is the negative, and you need to learn to accept that>Maybe instead of moralfagging you should try being more optimistic and looking at the bright side of thingsSee, there's no point in talking with those creatures, they don't even follow logic, just contradict themselves at every corner
>>82633813>rightAbortion isn't a right. You faggots obsession with human rights is laughable, you don't even know what that is
>>82633819There is no contradiction. The fact that there is bad in the world is an objective fact. Looking at the bright side of things is an optimistic solution
>>82633625If you kill someone you go to jail, therefore if you do an abortion you should go to jail too. It's just logic, but simps and whores do a thousand mental gymnastics
>life is created at conception>killing an innocent is bad>therefore killing babies is badSuper simple logic. People that are against that either are massive retards or malicious people, both should be purged
>>82633625People that want to force a woman who wants an abortion to be a mother are insane and no amount of moralfagging will change that. They don't give a flying fuck about the unborn fetus it's just about dictating other people's behavior. All that'll happen is you make one more miserable psycho single mother and yet another unhinged criminal or whore. Chistcucks will never win this debate because their position is retarded and just creates more problems not solutions. If some slut doesn't want to be a mother she shouldn't raise a child. We got enough fucked up spergs running around causing shit as it is. All the trannys, faggots and jeets that shit up this board should have been aborted.
>>82633869Infanticide is not morally equivalent to eliminating a womb parasite
>>82633625I agree.Abortion should be buy one get one for free.If you get an abortion you get a free hysterectomy. So the problem solves itself.
>>82633869>muh black and white over simplified thinking.You have a room temperature IQ and should never be around children.
>>82633884>>life is created at conceptionAll the others arguments are just cope. Le nervous system, le heart, le sentience, le parasite that can't survive outsideLife is created at conception. Simple as that, all the others arguments is just pointing at a tree instead of the whole forest
>>82633901It's called logic, sorry you cannot understand such a simple concept. No, emotions, culture, socioeconomics, etc. doesn't change the logical conclusion of statements
>>82633913All life is equivalent so if I step on your neck and kill you it's no different than stomping an ant or a fly. That's your logic and you wonder why nobody listens to you control freak faggots.
>>82633933You're just a simpleton and I can tell your obese just from your statements. Thank god people like you die early.
>>82633882>They don't give a flying fuck about the unborn fetus That doesn't matter. You don't need to donate to charity or be a missionary to say that murder is objectively wrongYou people are so retarded that it's funny. Just cope after cope
>>82633954>and I can tell your obese just from your statementsSweet projectionI'm 185 lbs and 6'1
>>82633951If assuming that human life is equal to animal you're right, but that's not the case>control freak faggotsJust another buzzword. Throwing murderers in prison is also a form of control, but I doubt you oppose that
>>82633951>control freak faggotsLiterally every law is controlling what you can and can't do. Unless you're an absolute anarchist, you also are a "control freak"
>>82633625How doesabortion effect me who was already born?I don't fucking get it
>>82633882It's funny how anti abortion people are expected to provide housing, family, etc. to unborn fetuses. It's such a random standard that has no logic whatsoever That's like saying that anti murder people should be vigilantes, anti homeless people should open their house to the homeless, anti drugs people should form a militia and destroy the cartels, etc.
>>82633625All that I care is if they will push using taxpayer money to escape their sleeping around whoredom mistakes, as long as I dont indirectly pay for it dont give a shit
Every openly pro-abortion, anti-natalist who's ever spewed their shit in person I've seen has been some middle aged faggot with happy, healthy adult childrenAlso one was a literal rabbiThe vast majority of people support abortion for (you), rest are gullible freaks who weren't going to reproduce anywaysNo one wants to share any resources to support your bastard spawn but they just have an acceptable way to say it nowMost people aren't going to think about how if no one is having kids now in 40 years everyone in the civilized world will be old poor and about to be eaten by niggersIf you just slap the Animal Planet logo onto whatever these faggots say you don't even have to question it anymore
>>82633735You can't argue against nihilism because nihilism is correct.
>>82633933If the doctor told you that your child was gonna be retarded and a burden on you forever, would you abort? Not arguing genuinely interested because personally I would.
>>82633625I support abortions because I believe it's better for some people to never be born, if that requires killing them as babies so be it.
>>82633951>nobody listens to you control freak faggots.>you called me sir? b-but im a they/them maam you will call me what I want!
>>82635473The only correct nihilists are the ones that already killed themselves. Go ahead
>>82636004I recognize that I evolved with an instinct for survival and a fear of death through billions of years of evolution. That does not mean there is a purpose to our lives.
>>82633680>less sentient than cattleThis. I don't take anti-abortionists seriously unless they're vegan.
>>82633680>bringing animals suddenlyI don't think killing animals is good, but it's a necessity. There's no necessity in killing a fetus>muh moneyYou need to try really hard to be that broke. It's basically impossible to starve to death in a developed country unless you're a crack head homeless dude
>>82636041>I recognize that I evolved with an instinct for survival and a fear of death through billions of years of evolution. That does not mean there is a purpose to our lives.You contradicted yourself. Surviving is a purpose. If you fear death that means you want to live, and wanting to live is a purpose that all beings share. It being intrinsic doesn't change that
>>82636513>it's a necessityIt's not. All essential or conditionally essential nutrients are available from plants or synthetic supplements.
>>82636629You need to be extremely disciplined and know which fruits/vegetables give which vitamins for you to not have a diet that lacks vital vitamins. That's why most vegans look ill, it can be done, but it isn't for everyone You're doing the "actually" meme. Many things TECHNICALLY aren't necessarily, but we all know they're kinda are, like supermarkets. Technically everyone can grow their own stuff and trade with neighbors, but we know that won't happen
>>82636057as a vegan, i think abortion is wrong and i also think killing animals is wrong
>>82633625It's all about quality of life, people should use contraceptives, if pregnancy isn't expected it's actually more pro life to abort a child that wasn't planned.Abortion shouldn't be the standard and it usually isn't but aborting an accident or a possible baby with deficits should absolutely be aborted.There's too many niggers breeding too many kids same for white trash inbreds. Life shouldmbe about quality not quantity
>>82637756Quality of life doesn't necessarily mean happiness. Beaners in poor south american are happier than rich european countries
