Occasionally it hits me that I constantly eat the product of agony and animal abuse and I feel horribly guilty. Pigs are just as intelligent as dogs, and it pains me to imagine my sweet dog in a situation like picrel.Eating meat isn't necessarily evil, but fuck, the meat industry really is. And considering how processed everything is, their suffering is totally wasted. I genuinely believe that the only reason people are "okay" with this is because they're helpless to stop it and manage to ignore it most of the time. I know that's why I am. But sometimes the dissonance hits me.
i'm broke so i can only afford chicken and fish, which are much dumber creatures. it makes me feel slightly better.
>>82670014I don't eat pig.
A few days ago I heard an audio of a bunch of screaming pigs together and it shook me to my core
I stopped eating pig, and only buy range free eggs. Trying to think about how profoundly evil the world and human society is will break your brain, the earth is literally screaming in pain every second and you have to ignore it or or you will be miserable 24/7
>>82670014>>82670039>>82670054I would eat a fucking dog if it were on the menu. I would eat a human as long as it wasnt their brain. We are apex predators not some beta orangutang. We conquered the planet you are goddamn right I will eat the spoils of our victory
>>82670088Pig is a filthy animal it will make you sick.
>>82670088>We are apex predators not some beta orangutangThere's a big difference between hunting down and killing an animal yourself and buying a plastic-wrapped package of bacon at the grocery store that was made from rape and synthetic hormones you fucking retard
>>82670107I do not give a fuck. Chickens eat shit and cannabilize themselves too. The only thing I would not eat is shrimp due to an allergy and a fresh tomato. Everything else is fair game
>>82670014Funny I had this exact thought yesterday while cooking and cutting up meat. It's upsetting. But I'm not gonna give up meat so it's why I support research into lab grown alternatives.It's the piggies and cows that get me. Pigs as you said are very intelligent, in some ways even more than dogs. Cows aren't as intelligent but they can be very cuddly. Cutting red meat out of your diet is actually a healthy move, perhaps you could go 100% poultry and fish. Those creatures are dumb as shit.
>>82670117I dont buy cheap meat, asshole. Only the good organic shit. All my beef is grass fed grass finished all my chicken is free range and my pork is farm fresh. My wife doesnt like fish so i get it in the can
i always feel a little guilty in the back of my mind. not just for pigs, but for cows, and chickens, and fish. but im a coward and manage to ignore it like 90% of the time. as >>82670077 said, thinking of how profoundly evil the world is will drive you to suicide.>>82670088faggots who use this retarded "we are natural predators" argument would never eat an animal they raised and killed themselves because then they'd feel bad. youre only comfortable saying this because you don't think about the process.
>>82670122You wouldn't eat the blob fish
>>82670150Lmfao you are dead wrong. Growing up we raised turkeys, chickens, and goats and ate all three
>>82670149If you don't buy ultraprocessed factory farm shit, why are you replying to a thread about ultraprocessed factory farm shit? The OP literally said "eating meat isn't necessarily evil".
>>82670154Yeah i would eat that fucker and you would too if you were hungry enough. Google says it tastes like butter poached lobster, sounds really tasty
>>82670088You did not just talk shit about orangutans, you little bitch
>>82670163Because I enjoy causing discord on the internet>>82670182Fuck all plantoids. Meatoids rise up
All this talk about meat is making me hungry and I have a couple of rib eyes in the freezer.
Guilt is a learned behavior. Do not feel guilty for doing natural things. Humans are carnivores, and we need animal meat and fat or we suffer from disease. Don't let people take advantage of your kindness and make you feel bad for simply wanting to be healthy. All life must consume life to live.
>>82670264>factory farming is healthy and natural
>>82670279Without factory farming there would be more diseases like covid and ebola spreading around.
>>82670300Is disease not as natural as eating meat? I thought following nature's course was good.
>>82670014Shut up centar
>>82670279I never said that. I don't eat factory farmed animals.
>>82670014If it makes you feel any better, meat kills you so meat eaters are eventually punished for their sins.
>>82670014Not really, I grew up on a farm and worked in a meat processing factory and all the animals do is eat grass all day and then get stunned before they are killed. It's not like there is much sophisticated thoughts going on inside the average cows head.
>>82670700They should be allowed to eat grass all day *and* live a full life. There is no ethical justification for killing a happy, healthy, peaceful animal. Humans should stop breeding livestock and should let those currently alive spend the rest of their lives being cared for, not prepared for slaughter.
>>82670014Death is never pretty, champ, but all of our food requires animal deaths
we were given dominion over the beasts of the field but your shekels belong to yhwh
>>82671000I guess so if you consider zombies to be animals
>>82671029zombies are the product of necromancy they are undead not animals, cannibalism is a sin.What a cute image, I hope the plants win.
>>82671016you know, if i think about god giving dominion of animals to humans, what sort of ideas do you have as to how god would like humans to treat aniamls?do you think god would prefer that humans genocided hundred of millions of these innocent animals? that doesnt exactly ring me as true
>>82670014so go vegan, opyou feel bad and you SHOULD feel bad, because its morally wrong to eat meat, and you should feel bad whenever you do something morally wrong>I genuinely believe that the only reason people are "okay" with this is because they're helpless to stop it and manage to ignore it most of the time. I know that's why I am. you're not helpless to stop your own contribution towards animal suffering. i dont think anyone is expecting you to end all animal exploitation, but i do think you can be held morally accountable for your own actions, so you should go vegan
>>82670014What are you babbling about retard? Meat comes from the supermarket there is no suffering.
>>82670039beans, lentils, tofu are viable replacements for meat, and they are very cheap. cheaper than chicken and fish, calorie for calorie, gram for gram of whatever macronutrient>>82670074https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVR7NjnMkIcthis is pigs dying in a gas chamber. gas chambers are used to kill most pigs in britan and are common throughout most of the world. their lungs burn inside out and they die horrifically>>82670077>buy range free eggs.this is how they treat male chickens in free range eggsthis is free range eggs btwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uw5c5kSVr4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkphooryVyQyou should go vegan if you think its wrong to do that
YeahIt's all so fucked up. But it's profitable (currently/kinda)
>>82670088i don't agree with eating people but i do think most people are massive fags about what animals are/aren't food.
if it makes you feel any better, if you passed out in a pig pen they'd eat you alive
>>82671118>but i do think you can be held morally accountable for your own actionsSo why is your moral accountability conveniently limited to just not eating meat and you get a free pass for destroying other forms of life (plants) or the destruction of animal habitats to fuel your comforts like Internet and electricity?You just draw an arbitrary line and say "this is moral enuff". You could just as well draw that line differently to include eating meat.
>>82671691>and you get a free pass for destroying other forms of life (plants)well, usually the only time ive ever heard of anyone arguing about how plants can feel is when they are butthurt meateaters who are coping in vegan debates. i have never heard of anyone seriously take plant sentience as a subject outside of that. so its hard for me to take you seriouslyand the reason why we dont think plants can feel pain is because they have no brain or nervous systemyou know it takes 13 kilos of corn to make 1 kilo of a steak. very inneficient. cows and pigs eat a lot
>>82671749>so its hard for me to take you seriouslyThe feeling is mutual, particularly when you don't engage with the substance of my argument.
>>82671787>plants have feelingsno they dont. this is a pseudoscience. i did engage with your argument; i pointed out they have no brains or nervous system. you ignored that parttheres plenty of evidence to show that animals are sentient. theres zero evidence to show plants are sentientand a vegan diet for the same amount of calories requires less plants and land to grow said plants than a meat based one
>>82670014this post makes me hungry for meat, im going to go and buy some now.
>>82671808You are not engaging with the substance of my argument, which I'll repeat: you drew the line of what's moral and what isn't in an arbitrary way that's convenient.You opted out of some animal suffering (without decreasing it in reality) by deciding not to buy certain products, but you're ignoring other animal, human and plant destruction your lifestyle results in. There are a lot of other things you could at least opt out of (if not actively fight) and you choose not to.It's difficult for me to see the morality of your stance. To me you're like a bandit who shoots 5 people but spares a child, and you expect the other bandit who would shoot the child too to think better of you.
>>82670088based. food is food. i fail to understand why people like op have to make such a big deal about it. if you dont "the heckin animal suffring of za warudo" just go kill yourself already
>>82670014I eat meat but I don't feel great about it
>>82670014Thankfully my empathy has been mostly sanded off. Why should l care about animal suffering if l'm mostly indifferent to human suffering?
The greater evil is human overpopulation. God's plan was for us to improve our technology to the point where we could live in a new Eden alongside nature. We'd feed ourselves from ranches and farms and there would be no need for industrial slaughter.But once we reached that point certain demographics just used the technological efficiency to make even more babies which we now have to house and care for by raping the earth at an even greater scale.This iteration of human civilization will collapse within 1000 years and the survivors will have to remember our mistakes as they rebuild.
currently eating a sausage sandwich, not trying to be edgy but bad timing lol
>>82670014Do you think the animals there get it any worse than in the wild? Eaten slowly while still alive by predators, starving to death, freezing to death etc.I remember seeing some thing about a bunch of farm animals released into the wild from some bankrupt farm. They all died excruciating deaths. They starved, got infections and died in agony, eat by wolves. Some got stuck in mud and slowly starved to death. It is either a shitty life in a farm or a shitty life in the wild. Either way, something WILL eat them eventually.
>>82670014Animals would do the same to us if the roles were reversed so I don't care. Do you think a dog feels pity when it bites you?
>>82670014i don't think the pigs really careplus they'll eat each other if given the chance
>>82670014>waaaaa waaaa i m a basedboy
ok, just become vegan.It isn't impossible to be vegan. Just make sure to take Creatine and other supplements.
>>82673595are you saying we should act like animals?
>>82675345NTA but we are animals you fucking mongoloid
>>82670014What agony and animal abuse? We're not jews with kosher practices with consists of slashing animal's throats and leaving them to thrash around for a while.
>>82670088Humans are gross. But then again so are pigs which is why I avoid it. Dogs, cats, I wouldn't touch neither. But this is all if there is food available. In a life or death situation of course I'd eat them all.
>>82670014People generally aren't psycho who get off on putting an animal through pain, we made animal rights laws for that reason. It's just not practical to feed a population through completly ethical means unless 90% went complete basedboy. Obviosly farmers are going to get frustrated and cause a farm animal pain like when moving livestock around, all psycho's caught torturing animals deserve prison. Hopefully 'synthetic meat' which is biolocally identical to a farm animal will become viable soon.
