i dont know where to post this i dont know who to talk to.i have found out that i was kicked from my local artist sphere not by those annoying fuckers, but because someone in my family decided to fuck me over.I feel so betrayed, my own blood stabbed me in the back and they ate at the same table as me.What the fuck do i even do, how do i process this? who the fuck do i even talk to?For years i have been trying to at least get funds for a low-budget one-man project. I could never even land a return email. I always thought it was because of those stupid fuckers.I'm so fucking destroyed right now man currently all i want to do is drink away my sorrows.The past three years have been nothing but sorrows. All for nothing.I just wanted my voice to be heard. I didn't think my own blood would ever do this to me. I'm so fucking tired of this shit. What the fuck do i even do i at least thought i could publish my work somewhere when its done off my own hard earned money. I guess even that is off the table. I just want to be someone. I just want to be my own. Is that really too much to ask?
/2...the worst part is ive been noticing MY original ideas in others' work. Completely missing the point but i KNOW they could have only gotten something so specific from ME.Completely bastardized for some retarded agenda.
What did they do to fuck you over?
>>82672131blacklisted me from everything official.stole my ideas and gave them to others.can you read bro?
>>82672147I can lol, I mean what did they do to blacklist you. Did they spread some rumour about you or smth?
>>82672091>kicked from my local artist sphereI noticed that you didn't actually say WHY you were kicked. You conveniently left that portion of the story out. The fuck did you do?
>>82672157They work in those institutions.>>82672161because i didn't bastardize my ideas to let them continue riding their "youthful nostalgia" I could give less of a fuck about the informality, i am offended that i was fucked over because family is in the system.it's complicated euroid family politics. I did my best to be familial, only to get fucked because i am a "stain" to them.
>>82672170Omg you are such a fag why do you even post in an anonymous board if you are gonna leave out the details that mean shit.
>>82672170Dude, quit being a faggot and obfuscating. WHAT DID YOU DO?
Did you just want people to pity you or smth?
>>82672178I didn't do anything. It's because my parents are in constant argument with their siblings. It's because those siblings are in control and want to fuck over my side as much as possible. It's because i refused to betray my own mother. It's because i don't use my art to spreas commie-nostalgia. It's because family hates me.>>82672177there i said it any more and i am doxxing myself
>>82672190Lmfao there it is. You can see something rearing it's head. What do you mean "commie-nostalgia" and did your ideas directly contradict it?
>>82672091>The past three years have been nothing but sorrows. All for nothing.good, your art or whatever probably suck dick thus why you never got a response for your project, you should get a job and work like a normal person and stop living of your folks and the tax payer money you fucking hippie
>>82672199It means the cohort of 50-year-old-boomers who like to party and pretend like they're 20.My ideas didn't directly contradict anything, i just didn't keep on pushing their ideas. It's pretending like the former system was hunky-dory-perfect. It's pretending like i should hate my country because it's the style in the world. It's because i wanted to make something that is my own.>>82672202i have been working my ass off. it's how i barely funded myself. You can read bro.you should see the literal garbage they make, puts banana tape to shame.
>>82672190I don't buy the "I did nothing and I'm just a victim" narrative. You're clearly leaving something big out. You're leaving out what you specifically did, and it's extremely obviously not "refusing to betray your mother". And even if that were the case, what the fuck did SHE do that made her the bad guy in this story?
>>82672220Does it fucking matter what SHE did?am i not my own person? do i not get to stand on my own two legs? Why do i have to publicly betray the woman who gave birth to me?
>>82672202Also this. Getting to be an artist is a privilege. Everyone has ideas. Everyone would love to live off of ideas. Few can. Getting into it is like gambling
>>82672228Oh my god you are in an anonymous forum. Here people talk about how they want to rape their crush and shit. You don't need to be coy about your family drama. It's annoying
>>82672232They won't let anyone but themselves have that. It is a neverending circlejerk.Because they are garbage artists, they suck, it's just a fact. They don't like it when someone does something with effort in it.Look, i can just give up and forever stay in the underground circle. I just wanted to be more than that.
>>82672228>do i not get to stand on my own two legs?Humorous coming from a person who is trying to piggyback off their family power in the artistic sphere.But, yes. It does matter. Just like it matters what you specifically did to get yourself kicked out. You did SOMETHING, you probably did SOMETHING a lot. And the fact that you're so vehemently refusing to acknowledge it means you KNOW that what you did was wrong on some level.
>>82672219So you made something completely apolitical, no ounce of politics that might anger the commies. And they just blacklisted you for it? Again feels like something is missing
>>82672240Look man they disagree over superficial shit. My aunt in the system openly wants to destroy the country and culture, it's what she says when she drinks one too many glasses of wine. She despises me because i think she blames me for "corrupting" her son (who i barely interact with, if he turned out like that it's called "teenage rebellion") She despises me because i refuse to say anything bad about my parents.
>>82672257>look man they disagree with superficial shit.Come on, you can do it. Superficial shit like what
>>82672250the "political" part of it is that i *didn't* make it overtly politibrained. That i didn't use my work to push their shit. I see it all the time. Everything public is overtly political, there is a clear bias. I knew it would be hard under normal circumstance, i didn't expect to be roped into the sister rivalry>>82672248i didn't expect favors, i especially didnt expect to be actively hindered and pushed down.>>82672271superficial shit like "is it right to want to destroy the country"I've been all over the world, my only takeaway is that my little corner is all i want. I write and make with that in mind.
Also, something that just occurred to me:Why would you join a group of people who are pushing an agenda that you do not agree with?Could it be.... that you're trying to take advantage of their power for your own benefit without contributing back to the organization? Could it be that your mother also did this same thing and took advantage of other people's power for her own gain? Could it be that your family sniffed this out and didn't want you in their association because you were nothing more than a leech?Because that's what it seems like.
>>82672282No i was in that group because i grew up in it. I am prosocial and hate being lonely.
>>82672278Idk it feels like you don't want to tell us for some reason lol. Like, what's the point
>commies bar you from artist's groupIt'd be so fucking easy to get people here in your side but you are being secretive for no reason
>>82672287I get the same sense, anon. He's obviously hiding something. It's a real case of the missing missing reason. Shit's just not adding up. Too many oddly convenient holes with abscond him of responsibility.
>>82672287dude i fucking told you. I make things about how great your own is, they make things about how they hate themselves and their own. They refuse to pass on the torch to us the young people because we might not sing their song which started a war. They make things about how they "miss the good old days" i don't because that simply isn't my time. i won't pretend to like something i don't know.
>>82672305I'm posting in r9k do i need to spell out that i am a chud.
>>82672311dude i fucking told you. I make things about how great your own is, they make things about how they hate themselves and their own. JAJAJAJJAJAJA>>82672278>>82672219>My ideas didn't directly contradict anything, i just didn't keep on pushing their ideas.I don't get it man why would you try to hide this shit?
>>82672311Holy shit anon. THEN WHY THE FUCK DID YOU EVEN JOIN THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE???How long are you going to dance around this? You clearly do this SO OFTEN. Just dance around things and pretend like you don't know what's going on.>LADEDAAAA I'M SO INNOCENT AND NAIVE AND IGNORANT!>I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S GOING ON!!!>OH THAT EVIL THING MY MOTHER DID....>WHOOPS I DIDN'T SEE THAT LAAADEEDAAA>*innocent smile*
>>82672315No, that's the point, why try to hide it from us? Its fucking annoying that we had to pull it out of you like getting a child to eat veggies.How bad was it? Just patriotism or did we get into racial stuff
I feel you anon, it's tough out there for a chuddy artist.Fags tried to get me banned from shit in my hometown but I have proven too powerful for them.
"Missing, missing reasons" refers to the phenomenon in estranged family relationships where a parent claims to not know why their child is estranged, despite the child having communicated those reasons to them, often due to denial, lack of accountability, or genuine difficulty processing the information in a non-defensive way. This is not about genuinely not knowing, but about a refusal to acknowledge or accept the reasons provided by the adult child, which are often related to toxic behavior or abuse.It's just missing missing reasons. He's just going to continue to pretend like he doesn't know what went wrong. That's the narrative he's spun for himself. He won't contradict his own narrative.
>>82672375Makes sense. Its just so annoying
>>82672389I know. Shits frustrating as hell. What's the point of even bringing up the story if he's not going to talk about the details of it????>I've got this story!Oh yeah? What's the deets>uh hhhh uhhh uhhhh uhhh uhhh *mumble mumble* communism!!Wow great story, anon!!
>>82672410That is the thing you fucking idiot. Do i need to make up spicy details?
>>82672414It's not spicy details retard. It's literally the reason why you got kicked.>hey anons i got sent to jail for no reason life is do unfair>actually it's because i did something but it was nothing>actually i diddled some kids but the judge was a commie
>>82672414THEN.WHY.THE.FUCK.DID.YOU.JOIN.THEM.IN.THE.FIRST.PLACE????!!!!YOU KNEW THEY WERE COMMIES AND STILL JOINED THEM?????????????????????????????????????? EVEN KNOWING YOU DID NOT AGREE WITH ANYTHING THEY'RE SAYING??????????????????????????????IT.DOES.NOT.ADD.UP.
>>82672351yes in a way it is a "racial" thing is it really that complex of a concept? it's tribal rivalry and i happen to have been born on the wrong side.
>>82672219As we all know. Nostalgic communists make the best art. Sorry anon. Get mogged.
>>82672435IGREWUPWITHTHEMIJUSTWANTEDTOSTAYWITHTHEPEOPLEIALWAYSKNEWBUTIDIDN'TWANTTOCOMPROMISEMYSELFANDMYIDEALS.THEYAREN'TEVENTHEPROBLEM.THEPROBLEMISSOMEBULLSHITFAMILIALRIVALRYTHATIKNOWHOWITWILLBESETTLEDANDIT'SINNEITHER'SFAVOR
>>82672432Lmao absolutely perfect image for what's happening.
>>82672437Jajajja jajajja jajajjaHow did you go from.>They kicked me for no reasonTo>they kicked me for superficial reasonsTo>I submitted some racist shit to my commie auntAnon you are a retard
>>82672450when i said it is a "racial" thing i meant it is something that can only really happen in a small country like mine you fucking idiot.
>>82672457Come on. How chuddie was it. What did you make
>>82672441>Just continues doing the same thingSTOP. ALREADY. Jesus FUCKING Christ.WHY WOULD YOU JOIN THEM IF YOU WEREN'T GOING TO COMPROMISE YOUR IDEALS, AND YOU KNEW THEY'D WANT YOU TO COMPROMISE YOUR IDEALS.WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO BE WITH THEM IF YOU KNEW THEY HATED YOU AND THE WAY YOU THINK AND YOUR MOTHER AND YOUR SIDE OF THE FAMILY??????????WHY.WHY.WHY.IT'S JUST NOTHING BUT WHY QUESTIONS OVER AND OVER THAT YOU REFUSE TO ANSWER.Literally NOTHING you say makes any sense at all. I'd almost be tempted to think you're just rage baiting.
>>82672464i made a series of illustrations about a boy who joins an army to get revenge on his own and in the end realises he lost all he had for judas' gold.My godfather helped me put it up in public and it moved people and they really hated that i was able to do something they couldn't.
>>82672472HOLY SHITHE FINALLY SAID SOMETHING OF VALUEPRAISE JEEZUZ
>>82672472>My godfather helped me put it up in public and it moved people and they really hated that i was able to do something they couldn't.God you artists are such self aggrandising whores. Shit I'm happy you got blocked. Can't be benefitting from nepotism like that and be completely lacking in humility
>>82672484it was a small thing. two meters total. I wanted to make it into a whole story and i applied the official way and then the sorrow started. you happy? cunt
>>82672472What army, where do you live
Perfectly highlighted why he got kicked out too. >who joins an army to get revenge on his ownIt's funny how you kept painting it as your family hating you. But that image paints it clearly who is seeking to do harm, and exactly why they wanted you out.>>82672491Yes. Fucking yes. You actually told us WHY you got kicked out. You joined a group, then published art that specifically spat on their beliefs and said "HAHAH FUCK YOU AUNTIE!!" in your art. You deserved to get kicked out.
>>82672496it's a fictional thing with fictional symbols. I didn't reference real things at all.
>>82672501It wasn't displayed within that group. By that point i was already out of it.
>>82672490sometimes it really is just up to jealousy, anon. Their things barely get attendance, they only exist because they captured the official system.
>>82672504The thing is, you don't have to reference real things. Everyone knows what you meant. If you're in a community of artists, they know how to read art. They know what you're implying.>>82672512I can imagine you did things like that a lot. It wasn't just one isolated instance. That was just the piece de la resistance, as it were. Seeing as you come from an arty family, your mother probably also did similar things, and basically spat in the face of your aunt. The whole story makes sense now.
>>82672548Too bad, don't care. Time to get a real job. Go work at the shit factory like the rest of us.
>>82672562i have a job you fucking retard
It clearly isn't an issue of jealousy. Trying to paint it as such is just disingenuous.
>>82672573no it just so happens people were moved by my thing and when they host things fucking nobody outside of the circle shows up
>>82672577No, it just so happens that you were spitting in their face by making art contrary to their beliefs. It's like if I were hosting an art group for religious pieces, we're specifically Christian, and want to promote the word of Jesus.Then you come along and want to join my group, and since you're family, I let you in, even though I know you're a Satanist and the son of a Satanist, who happens to be my sister. But I hope, maybe you'll drop your Satanist ways and come to our side, that's why I let you join.But it turns out, you're not interested in doing that. You just want to use my platform to speak out against my message. You want to use my power and status to push your own contrary message, and promote images of Satan. You want to spit in the face of not only me and my beliefs, but my entire organization. You want to disrespect me IN MY OWN HOUSE, as it were.Instead of making your own group with your own ideologies, you come to mine and try to tear it down. Then play the victim when it bites you in the ass and I kick you out.THAT is the issue. (This is a metaphor, I don't think communism is equal to Christianity, or "good". I actually hate communism.)If you cannot see the problem with your actions, and want to play the victim like you did nothing wrong, I don't know what to say for you. You partook in a war with your own family and then tried to make it like you didn't do anything wrong at all. Shits weird. You're weird.
>>82672559they were perfectly content with keeping me there until people started resonating with my words.
>>82672091Don't worry op, everyone hating you is a disingenuous wokie who's trying to cope that woke and their communist beliefs are dead. They're trying to cope with EA and all the woke propaganda they propagate being suddenly scrubbed clean off by Sadia Arabia and Trump's son-in-law. I'm sorry they made you the target, it's sad how much hate they hold for the common man
>>82672625Wokie here who even cares about EA lol. I just hate OP cause he is a faggot who kept lying. If you are gonna come here begging for pity least you can do is tell what the fuck happened
>>82672616I understand that. It's still wrong that she went to her system friends and told them to keep me out because she doesn't like me.
>>82672644>I just hate OP cause he is a faggot who kept lying.Based catposter. Legit why couldn't he just say "I basically shit on the dining room table, as it were, with my art by disrespecting their beliefs and promoting the opposing point of view and painting them as the evil people in the story"Like, OBVIOUSLY that's going to get you kicked out.>>82672649What did you expect to happen? You literally started a fight with them. You did that. Did you think they were just going to sit idly by and let you shit on them?
>>82672649/2 it's one thing to kick me out of that circle.it's another to make my life difficult. For that reason and familial ones.
>>82672678Do you not understand the fact that you removed yourself from the familial circle? You made yourself an enemy. Actually, more accurately, you made THEM the enemy. They were (seemingly) willing to play nice, and even let you join their fucking art group.AND YOU SHIT ON IT. (maybe rightfully so because fuck commies)But the point still stands.YOU'RE the one who shat on the family. You HAVE to understand that.
>>82672672I didn't start that fight.They ended everything i ever lived for and i told them to shove it, wouldn't you?I'm sorry for being coy about it bro can't a man be distressed in the moment?
>>82672694and yet i will be the sole heir of the family.funny how life plays out when you're (the only) honest and responsible one.
>>82672695Not after acting like a stuck up retard afterwards. First few replies and already telling people that they don't know how to read. Damn no wonder your family can't stand you. Also you be proved yourself a very unreliable narrator. Who the fuck knows what you actually did
>>82672438just to say:they are communist anti-country anarchist libtards who JUST SO HAPPEN to be suckling off the teat of the state. I was right to shit on them. They are evil hypocrites and i'm frankly sick of tolerating this degrading life, this degrading life for everyone else but them. Those same people wrote that game. I quit half-way because i felt that hypocrisy in it.
>>82672713anon what artist isn't a stuck-up retard
>>82672738>Those same people wrote that game. I quit half-way because i felt that hypocrisy in it.>Disco ElysiumFiltered by a masterpiece. You will never make true meaningful art.
>>82672695The art you were making whilst you were still in the group, that was being promoted by the group, or that was in some way attached to the group; did that art promote a counter position to the groups ideology in any way, shape, or form?That is to say, were you opposing communism with your art? Were you CHUDDING it up in your art and being a contrarian?Probably.I would bet you were.>I'm sorry for being coy about it bro can't a man be distressed in the moment?I get it man, but you don't have to be gay about it. Just own up to your shit in the future. >>82672702Honestly, what you should do is just go make your own group for like minded people. I'm sure there's a lot of people who feel the same way, that they can't have their voices heard because the narrative is being controlled and suppressed.
>>82672757And they took it away from us
>>82672758>The art you were making whilst you were still in the group, that was being promoted by the group, or that was in some way attached to the group; did that art promote a counter position to the groups ideology in any way, shape, or form?yes, in fact, it was even less coy than the public thing. Overtly offensive symbolism n all. they all saw it as critiquing it from their positiion because i dont spell out my point. I let the observer observe whatever they want because i base it off my lived experience, which happens to have savoury and unsavoury elements. They were perfectly content with keeping me because they thought i was unpopular.>Honestly, what you should do is just go make your own group for like minded people. I'm sure there's a lot of people who feel the same way, that they can't have their voices heard because the narrative is being controlled and suppressed.me and some others already got the ball rolling this year. We just need to figure out a way to fund ourselves as a group.>I get it man, but you don't have to be gay about it. Just own up to your shit in the future.look you have to understand that i am more hurt by the fact that it's clearly way more about the familial rivalry than the things i make. It's clearly just bitter boomers desparately trying to continue their personal blood feuds.>>82672757sorry it also just happens to be an annoying game to play, sorry for expecting a VIDEO GAME to be more than a disguised novel.
>>82672796...keep in mind a lot of them still keep relations with me "in secret" and that pisses me off the most.If you think i'm respectable, and it's well over half of the group, why are you letting the tyrants rule over you?
>>82672796>plays rpg game about reading>readingYou should know what you get into anon. Like, it's fair that you don't like games like that but it's not the games fault that you didn't read up on what it is about
>>82672813well i'm going to blame the game because it's made by hypocrites.
>>82672831Once again mogged by the commies.
>>82672835look, i played it years ago so i dont remember much, but i played down the path i found to be close to mine and i didnt like it because the writers clearly didnt get it.
>those thinly-veiled angry commies ITTwow, not even gonna read 1/3rd of this thread. Good luck to you, OP. Go check out the Sora app that just came out or w/e. Try directing AI shorts (and movies, later down the line), unironically, trying to hang onto institutions and cliques for support is intrinsically miserable.
>>82672846i'm perfectly capable of consuming what i like i just don't like it when they are some isolated readfags who don't actually know shit. I went through life the hard way and that's my position, not some stupid shit i read about.Maybe i should give the game another chance but i really don't care about some stupid foreign baltic faggots
>>82672898>*consuming what i DON'T agree with sorry freudian slip
>>82672796>yes, in fact, it was even less coy than the public thing.THIS is why you got kicked out. >it's clearly way more about the familial rivalry than the things i makeBut it CLEARLY isn't. I could tell from the beginning of the thread that what you're claiming here isn't true. Before you even gave up the details. That's why I want pushing so much for oyu to say what you did to get kicked out.They let you stick around because you weren't causing problems. You weren't causing waves. Once you start causing waves, you're outta there. If you disrespect your family behind closed doors, they're not really gonna care too much. But if you do it in the public eye, you're going to get punished. It's just how it works.
>>82672929she disrespects family in public, directly, by name.
>>82672937i was mainly being coy because i'm pretty certain cousins are on here guess thats fucked now hi cousin
>>82672950I'd murder suicide if I found my cousins on r9k
>>82672937Yeah, and she's probably been doing that since before your little stunts in her group. Which begs the question, why in the fuck would you join her group?
>anon comes in bitching, sounds like a teenager>refuses to say anything>expects updudesgo fuck yourself
>>82673004how many times do i need to tell you that i grew up in it for you to understand you daft fucking retard?
>>82673078Honestly I'm impressed you are still here lmfao.
>>82673116it's only been 3 hours
>>82673119Lmfao. Where are you from. this is vital context for me to judge the commies
>>82673078I guess you're just immune to seeing the folly of your own ways.Anyways, have fun.
>>82673121balkan.Here commies are nostalgic boomers who have captured the cultural sphere and are riding their "youth" wave until they fucking die, refusing to hand us the ACTUAL youth our scepter.You get nostalgia-"youth"-events hosted by 60+ year olds, attended almost exclusively by 50+ year olds
>>82673125i saw the folly of my own ways it was me making a point about it that was the last straw for them. seriously, can you read?
>>82673135Oh, yeah no shit they are nostalgic. Yugoslavia was the best thing to happen to y'all
>>82673147No.it was the beset thing for THEM and only THEM
>>82673163useless parasites, thieves and butchers.I have no idea why someone in my family would EVER want to asociate with a "partisan" who grew up in a stolen villa while my grandparents HAD TO WORK
