Do any other anons have basically zero romantic experience? Like, none at all?Before anons come and attack me and call my retarded for asking this on the "designated incel board", it seems a lot of anons here are actually fakecels and or have had romantic experience, even if it was mild.In my experience I've never experienced this. Never had a romantic partner, held hands with, hugged, or kissed, someone in a romantic sense, never had sex, I never even had a little kiddy type puppy love when I was young, my first crush was in middle school, I've never had someone like me back or even talk to me unless it's to get close to someone else I know, and I legit didn't even know that any of these were normal experiences until I became a teenager.
>>82698405>Do any other anons have basically zero romantic experience? Like, none at all?hi
i almost kissed a girl in a nightclub but then mentioned world of warcraft and then she started making out with a tranny (and may have been a very convincing tranny herself) what level of fakecel am i?
>>82698405>Do any other anons have basically zero romantic experience? Like, none at all?Yes, that's probably one of the most common demographics on this entire site. Why do you retards wake up and think to yourselves "HeY leT mE gO oN cHaN aNd AsK DuMbAsS qUeStiOn HeEe HoO hEe HoE, I sO FuNnE," No you're not "funny," you're a balding middle aged man who lives in his mom's basement who needs to get a fucking job instead of posting this retarded shit on 4Chan.You people act like you have a mental problem, and hey, I'm not even trying to shame you for being mentally ill all I'm saying is that you should start looking for help instead of being a retard on the internet all day, autistic faggot.
>>82698449I've been waitlisted for therapy since january though.
>>82698449wanna talk about it champ?
>>82698405i'm khhv and my only irl crushes were when i was super young (like 8-10)l. i e-dated and it didn't go very well. she said she loved me though
have you got, like, buddies irl? did you seek romantic experiences? they won't come to you if you wait passively (assuming you're male)it's hard to say how normal your situation is. some people are legit mentally disabled, so it's not surprising that they have no serious romantic relationships. but you seem to at least write coherently. maybe you are just very young
>>82698460Then try going to another therapist or trying to your parents about your problems. There's no excuse for you to be asking retarded questions like this one this site 24/7 when we all know damn well that YOU (yes I'm talking to you op) have bigger problems in your life that need to be resolved. Your problems will not resolve themselves and if you keep postponing solving these issue's then your life will only get worse until the point where there's no recovery.
>>82698516you could just go to a different board
>>82698539You could also stop spamming bullshit on this board all the fucking time.
>>82698564how is it bullshit?
>>82698412Hi anon>>82698441Wow anon get out>>82698449Because a lot of anons here are actually normies despite what you might believe;-;>>82698467>e-datedOUT
>>82698628>losing a romantic rivalry to a tranny makes you a fakecelaw man i really dont fit in anywhere huh
>>82698628>OUTshe was from here and replaced me with an irl bf within a week
>>82698405Still a fair amount yes. High school was only men and I was trained to be le studious kid so that cut out my outside time and by extension, my chance of developing socially or meeting people to have a romantic experience with.By the time I was at uni I could chat with girls here and there for uni purposes but it wasn't often and nothing romantic ever happened, at that point I was too far gone with porn anyway I suppose. First and only crush happened on early 20s at work with my manager, and a lot of it was for pragmatic terms so to speak. More than lacking romantic experience what I "resent" to call it that way is feeling that I'm unable to love.
>>82698628>Hi anonwanna be frens?
>>82698405I have "basically zero" but you'd probably call me a fakecel because I had an IRL hookup and a halfassed discord relationship. honestly it IS substantially more than zero, but pretty much the least possible amount you could have that might meet the bar for more than "basically zero".
>>82698449>>82698516you're not very good at emulating your abusive bootstraps father, probably leave it to somebody else
>>82698868discord doesn't count but the hookup does
>>82698405romantic experience as in some degree of bonding with a girl?maybe? i've talked to two girls online but neither has lasted long
>>82698883the discord experience meant more to me and matured me a lot more but okay
>>82698405I have never had a romantic experience. I help my family and work, but I do not go out much otherwise. I live in the middle of nowhere, I dream of maybe meeting an American or European who might be more similar to me (I spend a lot of time online. Sometimes feeling very different from those around me) but I live very far from anywhere where that would be realistic. One day I might try learn some kind of trade skill and move to somewhere where people are more like me. Not out of the county, but somewhere more bustling and stuff.
>>82698405I never even had an egf. I fundamentally don't know how to flirt or court women. my sister had a friend who would come over from college, and apparently she had a crush on me or something. at least my sister said so. I didn't even know. I just acted awkwardly around her whenever she would talk to me.
>>82699538>I fundamentally don't know how to flirt or court women. my sister had a friend who would come over from collegeWhat country are you from? I know most people here are Americans, but if you are from a more traditional country that has it's own customs surrounding marriage, you might be able to have an easier time. Like they can "guide rail" you to courting a woman. I like the idea of starting out as friends, maybe focus on learning how to make friends first. Then if you develop a strong relationship with a woman, you could go from there.
>>82699554I'm from america. I live in a mediumish town. I am not racist or anything but most of the women here are black, and they are all extremely extroverted and outgoing. I don't click well at all with them. then there are conservative white women, but at my age, they want you to be put together. I've accepted long ago it probably won't ever happen. I've been able to talk to women fine and get along with them, but I just don't pick up on signs and don't know when to try to push or flirt.
>>82698405A black girl called me cute in high school but I didn't do anything because all I cared about was video games and porn. It's more or less the same now, switch video games for drinking and cut the porn back to 3 or 4 times a week. I've always wondered how I can feel sexual attraction and beat my dick relentlessly yet want nothing to do with real people. I guess it's simply the animal instinct like eating and I have some sort of metal illness that makes me fatigued and angry when near people. Never had a friend, never liked any member of my family, don't know what "love" means.
>>82699594Maybe you could find an introverted woman online? Someone who's maybe similar to yourself and doesn't expect a rich husband. I know you might fear a long distance relationship, but you're from America. You're actually very lucky, a lot of women online are from your country. So hopefully you could maybe find someone who's not on the other side of the county, I don't know.
>>82699627I'm pretty avoidant so honestly every online relationship I form ends with me just kinda fading away. I lost all my online friends because of it. it's been ten years, and I still feel like shit about that and think about them every day. it would probably be the same way with an online gf.
>>82699627meeting people online demotivates from meeting people at allpeople who don't like socialising tend to be terrible at it
>>82698405Why? I really don't care that much at this point. Spent most of my life without sex. Had a gf 8 years ago and haven't done anything notable since then. Spent a lot of time drinking alone and working. Now I'm unemployed and sober. I'm really hoping to get my life straight again. Fuck. I'm live alone now in an apartment watching my life savings dwindling away, wondering what I could have done differently. Really doubt a woman would change my life so drastically. Go ahead call me a normie or whatever for not being a virgin, but I'm just fucked as 90% of you guys.
>>82698405Nobody ever had a crush on me my entire life. In fact nobody actually liked me or wanted to be my friend either. Nobody really bullied me either besides occasionally getting teased. I was mostly just non-verbally excluded from everything.I kinda get why though. I'm mentally not right and i think people can somewhat sense that inside of me. I don't act normal. I'm not even trying to be edgy; I don't think I'm autistic because I can easily emulate social norms and make smalltalk but people just sense something "off" about me.
>>82700137People can sense it, just that "off" feeling. It's completely normal even if you're not a complete autist.
>>82698405I've been on a handful of dates, but never more than that.
>>82700148It just gets tiring being so lonely though. I spend 24/7 of my life in complete isolation nowadays. I don't even talk to people online outside of this website.
>>82700133I'm in a similar state. I've had a few long term relationships and some casual hookups which yeah, definitely not robot tier, but I'm about as ugly as it comes and it was through sheer force of will and a lot of shame that I managed to accomplish those things. Now? I live alone, have basically nothing to my name and am watching my health, money and any semblance of status rot away at light speed. I don't want to deal with anyone else ever again, I'd gladly die alone in my apartment and not be found for months. There's nothing left for me on Earth, frankly, and no amount of hard work and self improvement or even love from tHe OnE would fix it.
>>82700226Yeah, tiring is an understatement. So used to it at this point. I obviously I need a job soon. Not because I'm going broke, but just so I could get a sense of forced socialization no matter how uncomfortable and outright pain it can be. Fuck I'm almost a year unemployed, how bad is that shit on resume? Money really is just a tool to get somewhere it isn't everything, but where would I even start with a woman in general? Like, I feel like I've given up a long time ago. Yeah, idfk, I'm definitely interested in women, and if a girl would ever magically fall into my lap, that would be great, likely? no. What do I even say? Yeah, I'm trying to fill my basic needs first before finding the love of my life and starting a family or whatever.
>>82700309I've kinda preferred dying alone. I just want to be at peace and left alone. It's depressing, but it's something I feel like is just right for a guy like myself.
>>82700345Better us than someone that doesn't deserve to live a life like that, or who couldn't take it. I can take it, it's fine. Suffering is my bread and butter, what's a few more short years on the shitheap.
>>82700362Depressing, isn't it? Yeah, I'm thinking about what my "plan" is, but time passing me by. I really don't think I'll figure it out anytime soon. Dicking around for a couple years if fine but it's been a decade and nothing has gotten better. So what, then?
>>82700400I'm literally just waiting for my mum to pass. I've been slowly distancing myself from my associates as unnoticeably as possible so that there's less collateral damage from my actions. It's a long road but I don't feel like I really have any other choice. As for actual methods tho? I don't know, hanging has always seemed romantic to me but the pain, not great. It's fucking death though lol, what's five minutes, 10, 30, an hour or two of excruciating pain compared to the rest of my life. It'll go by in the blink of an eye, surely.
>>82698405Hi, yes me. Women do not like me
>>82698405>Do any other anons have basically zero romantic experience? Like, none at all?A drunk 40 year old woman kissed me on the cheek once when I was 19. Does that count?
>>82698628NTA but does it count if it's "e-dated" but never voice called, sent pictures, met up, etc. Like I can't even confirm their gender?
>>82698405>Before anons come and attack me and call my retarded for asking this on the "designated incel board", it seems a lot of anons here are actually fakecels and or have had romantic experience, even if it was mild.This was a robot board before it was ever an incel board.You can have a gf and not fit into normie society, and you can fit into normie society without having a gf.That said, as an oldfag (and I mean gray old), >only ever had a crush in middle schoolThat counts as "puppy love", so you had that going for you.
>>82698405I relate to a lot of what you said. Yes, I am one such person. I have no romantic or sexual experience whatsoever. That's why I'm on this board, because I feel like that's the only place where I can be honest about how much it weighs on me, and be among individuals in a similar situation.
>>82698405>it's to get close to someone else I knowmy retarded ass fell for this
>>82698405I have had a "situationship" before but she was just using me for my money. It hurts way more when you actually fall in love once in your life. I'm the truestcel here.
>>82698405>Do any other anons have basically zero romantic experience? Like, none at all?Had a gf. Had sex. Had bad breakup. BAD.I genuinely wish it never happened.Grass is greener I suppose.
>>82698449i'm not balding nor middle aged
>>82701245I have to agree with this. There's ignorance is bliss type inceldom, and got a glimpse of love type inceldom. Of course, I don't know your story, if you did get sex at some point you're not even a cel
>>82701295Don't worry, I remain pure. I do definitely prefer my life when I remained ignorant thoughbeit.
>>82701318I had a bit of a mental crisis when I realised what I was missing out on but I'm slowly getting back to my shell again. People insult the black pill, but honestly it's a nice coping mechanism. Knowing that I am truly undesirable by literally everyone is a nice of knowing that I didn't miss out on anything because it was never in the cards
>>82701245>It hurts way more when you actually fall in love once in your life.If your romantic/sexual life (or lack thereof) didn't make you self-harm, attempt suicide, and be sent to the hospital, then you're wrong, you had it better than me: an incel. Stop speaking authoritatively on other people's experiences. It's all subjective anyway.
>>82701336NTA, weird thing is that I had absolutely nothing on in my life and I never did or needed those things. I'm not even a schizoid, just realised that I'll never have this.
>>82701335Yes same except I avoid the blackpill. I know I prob won't get a good woman but I try to focus on other stuff instead.>>82701336>Stop speaking authoritatively on other people's experiencesYou might want to read the OP again. Also I was an incel with zero experience for 25 years of my life, now I am an incel with sugar daddy experience. Think I've got every right to compare the two, for myself at least.
>>82701353>for myself at least.Yes, for yourself. So shut the fuck up talking about how you actually have it worse than incels. Whiny normalfag faggot.
>>82701367I have experience with the two, you have not. It's worse when I had no experience. You have no argument against it btw.
>>82701376>. It's better* when I had no experienceSelf-own moment
>>82701353Good man. Once you're aware of the blackpill it's not really worth engaging more. Ragefuel is not fun and a lot of incels are just failed normies with body dysmorphia, they ended up pushing out the true ugly dudes. Honestly a shame.
>>82701376Experience is subjective. You may have felt somewhat bad being an incel and now feel somewhat worse having had a sexual relationship. Another person will feel completely different, and being an incel will feel debilitating to them, and having any form of sexual relationship would make them feel much better. But you think the way you emotionally process things is how everybody does, which just speaks to your lack of emotional intelligence..
>>82701388>Ragefuel is not fun and a lot of incels are just failed normies with body dysmorphia, they ended up pushing out the true ugly dudesYeah trvke. This place especially is bad at that. Maybe it's not the case on the incel forum but never went there.>>82701389>having had a sexual relationshipI didn't have a sexual relationship.Also you keep talking about subjectivity but the OP clearly was objective too, and I don't see you complaining about that. And you're comparing your own experience to mine and calling me a normalfag in a way that is no way objective. So don't say I lack emotional intelligence when you're just being annoying for no reason.
>>82701400>but the OP clearly was not* objectiveFucking shit
>>82698405I'm in the same boat except a couple girls had big crushes on me in high school and I was too retarded to do anything about it. Also had a couple close lesbian friends but then got understandably friendzoned.
>>82701400I frequented the forum and to be honest, I just found it kind of exclusive, like you had to prove yourself to them. It just reminded me of high school cliques and how I could never fit into any of them.
>>82701400>Also you keep talking about subjectivity but the OP clearly was (not) objective tooOP made no claims about the universality of the way they emotionally process their experience. They just asked "hey, I had such lack of experiences, does anyone here relate?" And you barged in telling everybody how actually you have it the worst, which is doing the opposite.>And you're comparing your own experience to mine and calling me a normalfag in a way that is no way objective.Normalfag is a descriptive label for people with experience. You have experience, you're a normalfag. It doesn't assert anything about the way normalfags emotionally process their experiences. And I compared my experience to yours to illustrate how your experience doesn't generalize to others, so you have no leg to stand on when speaking on it.>So don't say I lack emotional intelligence when you're just being annoying for no reason.You absolutely do lack emotional intelligence. Your reason for claiming you have it worse than incels is how YOU emotionally process things. Which demonstrates a complete lack of understanding of how feelings work.
Are you ugly? Maybe thats why
>>82701449Yeah I heard about that. You apparently have to send the mods an essay about how you deserve to be on it or something. It seems like trying to wiggle your way into a group of friends. Also nice image I'm saving it.>>82701461OP implied that anybody not in the same situation as him is a fakecel or not supposed to be part of the "designated incel board". It cannot be read any other way unless you're trying to be pedantic:>Before anons come and attack me and call my retarded for asking this on the "designated incel board", it seems a lot of anons here are actually fakecels and or have had romantic experience, even if it was mild.>Normalfag is a descriptive label for people with experience. You have experience, you're a normalfag.Don't start talking about how normalfag is a totally objective term and you attached no animosity to it, it's almost belittling. You used that term to exclude me from the group you are part in to feel better about yourself. Normalfag does not, in no way, mean somebody who was never wanted by any girl in his entire life.>You absolutely do lack emotional intelligence. Your reason for claiming you have it worse than incels is how YOU emotionally process things. Which demonstrates a complete lack of understanding of how feelings work.Says the guy calling me a whiny normalfag (derogatory), and then backtracks and says he was always trying to be as objective as possible or something. You're placing yourself above me in the "woe is me" category, then blaming me for it (and I did do that to some extent, but the difference is I don't start endless arguments over it)I didn't mention it since it would seem like backtracking, but I said I was the truestcel in jest (and as it always happens, somebody gets upset). I wish I could go back to how I was before but I don't actually think I'm the biggest incel in the world, I'm not 95 yet.
>>82701524(1/2)>OP implied that anybody not in the same situation as him is a fakecel or not supposed to be part of the "designated incel board".Those are objective statements. You're assessing something with respect to a binary metric which is independent of the observer. I don't even understand why you're bringing it up. Let me ask you point blank: did OP make claims about the universality of the way they emotionally process their experience, yes or no? Because if it's "no", then this talking point is a red herring and completely irrelevant, as OP isn't guilty of what I'm criticizing you for. That's a clear symmetry breaker. And even if he was guilty of it, I don't see how it makes you not guilty. Whether you are or not is independent of whether someone else is or isn't.>Don't start talking about how normalfag is a totally objective term and you attached no animosity to it, it's almost belittling.I didn't say that. It carries a negative connotation around these parts, but the connotation is separate from the definition. "Incel" is also an objective label, but carries a very negative connotation. The connotation has no bearing on whether the label is applicable.>You used that term to exclude me from the group you are part in to feel better about yourself.I did use the term to exclude you, yes. I wanted to shit on you for being retarded, and I stand by that.>Normalfag does not, in no way, mean somebody who was never wanted by any girl in his entire life.Whether you were or weren't wanted is irrelevant by itself, as you can't read people's minds. It's possible there was a woman who found an incel alright, but he'll never know about it, because he only passed her on the street ten years ago. What matters to the applicability of the label is having experience that affirms the presence of that desire. If you have that experience, you're a normalfag.
>>82701720(2/2)>Says the guy calling me a whiny normalfag (derogatory)I don't see how that contradicts anything. What, insult people means they lack emotional intelligence? I don't see the connection.>and then backtracks and says he was always trying to be as objective as possible or something.What did I backtrack on? On calling you a whiny normalfag? I'll do it right now: you're a whiny normalfag. I also like how you're equivocating with the use of the term "objective". My criticism of you wasn't that you expressed something subjective. My criticism of you was that you made a statement that the way you emotionally process your experience is universal. Pay attention.>You're placing yourself above me in the "woe is me" categoryYou're not listening. I've already explained, that my purpose for bringing up that example was to disprove your claim that the way you emotionally process your experience is universal. I won't repeat myself on this again, so get it through your head.>I didn't mention it since it would seem like backtracking, but I said I was the truestcel in jest (and as it always happens, somebody gets upset). I wish I could go back to how I was before but I don't actually think I'm the biggest incel in the world, I'm not 95 yet.You clearly weren't joking when you expressed that you thought the way you emotionally process your experience is universal. It's clear, because later you posted this: >>82701376. So don't try to obfuscate now. But hey, if you now recognize that what you thought back then was wrong, then we agree, and we have nothing to argue about. I can even extend an olive branch to you and say it was insensitive of me to call you names. But it's contingent on whether you actually recognize that what you did was wrong.
>>82701720Alright, listen man, I appreciate the fact that you spent the last 35 minutes of your life writing this, but I just don't care anymore, I never did. I never claimed I wasn't guilty of what you accuse me of, I claimed you were guilty of it too. I never cared about trying to be objective, as opposed to you who belittled me. If you don't agree that's fine but holy fuck man who gives a shit about any of it. You win this internet argument omedetou.Have a nice day.
>>82701768You don't even know what I accused you of. You didn't listen at all. No, my criticism of you wasn't that you weren't being objective. I don't give a shit that someone wants to relay their subjective experience. That's completely fine. I criticized you expressing that the way you emotionally process your experience is universal. Which you then used to get up on your high horse and to tell people you know better than them how they feel about things. That's what I took issue with.
>>82701818>I criticized you expressing that the way you emotionally process your experience is universalHow is that not looking at things through an objective lense though? It's what I mean by that. I said that because I thought OP did the same thing (and then I thought you did the same). He swung and hit the ball, and I hit it back.Now, maybe I completely misunderstood everything, maybe you did, maybe we're both smart or both retarded, but either way doesn't matter. Have a nice day anon, let's both forget about this and go on with our day. I hope you get out of the hole you are in. Anyways, shall read your next post (if you do respond) but won't respond.
>>82701881>How is that not looking at things through an objective lense though?Because you tried to portray my criticism as broader than it actually was, and then tried to sneak in comparisons to mine and other people's statements that maybe could fit under that much broader umbrella to accuse me of hypocrisy, when those other statements were completely irrelevant to my actual criticism of you. But whatever. I said my piece. Have a good day.
>>82698405yes but I dont mind the idea of ever being with some dude in a romantic kind of way makes me feel uncomfortable and feels strange.
>>82698405>Do any other anons have basically zero romantic experience? Like, none at all?Yes, zero experience. It makes it hard to try to form a romantic relationship because I don't know how to plan dates or where people go.>Before anons come and attack me and call my retarded for asking this on the "designated incel board", it seems a lot of anons here are actually fakecels and or have had romantic experience, even if it was mild.I get the same impression lol
Yes. Nothing, not even a romantic handholding or a date. Whats the worst that I have to deal turbonormies every day at my work. They probably know about me being a wizard.
