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Honest thoughts on the manosphere, redpill and blackpill?

>women aren't capable of loyal love
>women have nigh-destroyed the institution of family and marriage, abandoned their husbands, refused to have kids, and forced employers to hire them at gun point
>women are evil succubus that trap the weak-willed man
>white women intentionally trying to spread HIV/STD
>women's accountability (whatever that means coz no man has explained it coherently)
>she's not yours. it's just your turn
>women want the abusive guy. they hate the nice guy.
>basically an incel/porn addict echo chamber that has nothing good come out of it
>genuine burning desire is the only thing that matters. the ONLY thing that guides female behavior is sexual attraction. they are obsessed with sex. if she wants to fuck you, she will literally do anything for you, agree with your opinions, and love you. if she doesn't... you're not even a man in her eyes
>self-proclaimed alpha white males who lost competition in his home nation goes to SE Asia to cope
>younger girls (18-22) really like older guys (35-45), it is not just cope
>don't get married or have kids because you'll get divorce-raped, taken to court, accused of rape, and cheated on regardless or not if you begin a relationship with a woman. they're all evil bro
>a bunch of black grifters and ugly pickme women like pearl saying they hate women and most of what they say is hyper exaggerated bullshit

Is RP and BP content is for bitter men who want to cope?
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>blah blah blah
Kill yourself.
Take whatever pill you want, but if you start niggering under some faggot dad-substitute, you're a nigger subhuman.
Die today for making this worthless thread.
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Fuck the manosphere. And the rogansphere too.
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>>82710797
They're both retarded faggot shit intended to brainwash retarded faggots (you) into buying their other ideologies.
It's called belief anchoring. They sell you an idea that is convenient and easy for you to believe.
For example, if you've had a bunch of bad experiences with women, they tell you "it's because women are evil!!"
You buy into this belief because it's easy for you to believe, you don't want it to be your fault that your experiences were bad. Which gives them the ability to plant new beliefs into your brain with this anchor as the foundation. Then they slowly add on new beliefs for you to buy into.

This is how cults work. It's brainwashing. We've entered the age of brainwashing.
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>>82710797
It's a response to the paranoia and revenge mania that 3rd and 4th wave feminism are. Women more than anything feel unsafe and will do anything to make themselves feel safe again. Men cannot process this irrational behavior, because they are the more logical and long term strategizing gender whereas women are better at pointing out problems now. This causes more and more embitterment which is then exploited by governments and corporations for profit.
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>>82710797
I don't follow it and the spokespeople for it (like Tate) are shit human beings themselves. But from what I've seen (one of my coworkers is into Tate), I partially agree and see proof for some of the ideas they are spreading.
I don't know any married men who seem happy about their marriages. From my POV as a former incel and now volcel, I no longer feel like I am missing out on anything and instead I've started to see benefits to my situation when I compare myself to normies.
In most cases, women seem to be like anchors on a man's financial development and freedom. Relationships and marriage can be great for you if you find a non-retarded, non-boring, non-promiscuous, non-parasitic woman...but how many women like that do you see? They are extremely rare.
I see married women at work openly flirting with younger Chads, discussing about boring bullshit among themselves, being very marterialistic. Pretty much all of them are like that. Why would I want something like that in my life? To get sex maybe once a week or less? No thanks, I can masturbate.
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>>82710797
>Honest thoughts on the manosphere, redpill and blackpill?

I think TRP says a lot of true things. And they make sure that they source those claims in studies. But then they make too wide extrapolations or use poor sources for other claims. So it's a lot of truth mixed with a lot of bullshit. I appreciate it overall, because the truths it talks about are often times the uncomfortable ones that people on the outside would deny exist. But they make an effort to have a culture of debate, where they bring in people to challenge them, so often times you can see where they fall short. I also like this mentality of removing your rose-tinted glasses when it comes to the way you view women. Plus it doesn't demonize your preferences: whatever you want in a partner is okay. It makes it more adapted to the modern dating landscape.

TBP is too inaccurate when it comes to its portrayal of reality. They do source their claims with studies (famously there's the scientific blackpill communities), but when you look at those studies, a lot of them have tiny sample sizes, or aren't even published and are just preprints. They also commonly make the mistake that the redpillers oftentimes make, which is that they extrapolate too widely from what their sources claim. Plus it's a nihilistic ideology that promotes giving up and inaction, which just isn't good. Additionally, they don't harbor much in terms of a debate culture. There were some people who were wiling to debate with redpillers, but those debates never went well for them. Generally the community is very insular and promotes subscribing to the ideological orthodoxy and excommunicating those who step out of line. Which just further harms their credibility.

The manosphere is a silly term. It encompasses so many widely different groups, many of which have nothing in common with each other, are about completely unrelated things, or openly hate each other. I really don't have any opinions about the manosphere in general.
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Red pill is a crock of shit.
Black pill in 2025 is just part and parcel of living as a sub 8/10 non-rich, non-powerful, non-famous man. You don't need to listen to e-daddies to have an epiphany.



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