why are men fetishizing loserdom
>>82795394Because it sells well. With more people being lonely, they want to feel affirmed watching content like this. Which in turn makes those people money.
>>82795394What's funny about blackpill 'tube is that you got fucking everyone in there. Millionaire finance bros in their Teslas bitching about the same shit as DBDR. It's kind of mirthful and humorous. Too bad Thinking Ape seems to have disappeared >why are men fetishizing loserdomIt's slightly amusing that just simply discussing our collective weltschmerz and angst by ourselves manages gay niggas to convulse in spams and conniptions. It must gall them that none of the insults and mob-mentality tactics they would ratio us anywhere else work on our own terrain. You know why the word "gay" is an insult? It's not just because of homosexuals. The mouth-agape basedjak types whose entire life is about manufacturing gaity in order to not get hospitalized or kill themselves are really fucking gay, you know that? Can't even be honest and admit coldly, tacitly, that some aspects of life are just truly over for this generation.
>>82795394Narcissism isn't necessarly about thinking you are great, it's about being attached to a certain image of yourself.The only way some have of maintaining their egos when they realise they failed to be what is expected of them is to identify themselves with that failure.That way they can keep think of themselves as special and unique by how much of a loser they are, turning shame into pride. That's why people complaining about how they are a 30 years old virgin and such often come across as if they are bragging.
>>82795394Men like this are perpetual sad puppy routine losers. They weaponize their incompetence and try to get some sympathetic sap of a woman to do the work for them like their mothers do. It extends beyond dating and sex, they are like this with everything if they can get away with it and will rob you of your emotional energy and goodwill do not fall for it. It is a trap.
>>82795588This is very true they try to make themselves out to be these suffering martyrs who are just SUCH ROMANTICS that they can't get find a real connection when in reality they the validation they receive via pity from others or when people are scathing, they can have yet another notch to add to their tragic mythologies they've built up for themselves. They are just male attention whores who try to capitalize on their lameness. The biggest insult to their brains is being ignored though because they feed off of people reacting to them because they are internally hollow and know if they don't have an audience they might have to do the work of making something of themselves.
>>82795394>>82795589>>82795654foids will look at a small sad puppy and immediately think of killing it with a coathanger, it's in their nature i'm afraid
>>82795394HIGH THUMOS!
>>82795754I don't wish to harm a sad puppy, but if I have to care for something it is a child/animal/ lesser being and therefore not something I can respect as an equal. Without equal respect I cannot form a relationship or attraction to another being and would never desire to. That is precisely why these men are alone.
>>82795654This could be true for some of them. But I think it could also be the case that they need an emotional outlet. Speaking from experience, it's very unfun being a loser, and as soon as you meet somebody who's nice to you there's a very strong urge to emotionally dump everything on to them. These guys are dumping onto a youtube audience instead.
>>82795767This is how a man that gets women looks at a woman yet women arent alone
>>82795781Some of these men will find low self esteem women who will suffer the burden of being with them just like women do. Men are just desperate and morally cowardly so they will do it more and then form emotional connections with other men in the same boat, bound together via bonding over "god I hate my bitch wife". Not the life I would pick but I'm not in the business of telling strangers what to do.
>>82795796A sexually successful man will see all women as >something it is a child/animal/ lesser being and therefore not something I can respect as an equalNot just low confidence women. There is a gender difference.
>>82795767nigga no man has ever respected you as an equal lol
>>82795588>>82795654This is some of the worst, and gayest, samefagging I have ever seen in my life. You should be fucking ashamed to try to foist this word salad gayitude on us while pretending it's two people.Next time at least get Chat to write one side of your gay little Platonic dialogue, you stupid nigger.
>>82795843You're whiny and mad and I didn't even need to bait you for it
Human beings adapt well to systems but then often repeat patterns of behaviour even when those routines no longer serve them. A whole generation has chosen the path of least resistance in part because of the push and pull factors of modern life. Push factors of current social dynamism combined with pull factors of technology with it's infinite distractions. The perceptions of these people keep them forever trapped unable to escape. So of course people fetishize this place, it feels cathartic to do so and it attracts attention from other people going through the same thing. And it's all much easier than trying.
>>82795819>>82795829Again you're just proving my point that men are moral cowards who will do anything for pussy. Not really my problemo
>>82795394idk, but it's comforting knowing that I am not suffering alone. Of course I don't want to suffer, nor do I wish these random guys to suffer either. one struggle with these anons.
"men should talk about their feelings">men talk about their feelings"NOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT LIKE THAT"
No matter how much of a loser I am, women are not equal
>>82795869>men will pretend they respect someone in order to get pussy>this makes them moral cowardsthe foids aren't sending their best
>>82795869No you are just proving that women are more in line with >>82795754Women see someone lower than them and want nothing to do with them, men see someone lower on the totempole than them (women) and will still hang around.
>>82795903>Women see someone lower than them and want nothing to do with them, men see someone lower on the totempole than them (women) and will still hang around.They will hang around just long enough to get pussy out of it yeah. They don't like or respect those women, they actively hate them and seek to use and discard them.
>>82795917>They don't respect those womenI know, I said that already >>82795819
>>82795776>very strong urge to emotionally dump everything on to themOver sharers are often doing a process of building artificial trust. Telling someone a secret implies you trust that person which implies connection with them. Over sharers however believe that in sharing vulnerable moments they are building connection, even though there isn't groundwork for someone to accept that vulnerability. It's not that normal people hate that vulnerability, it's that the vulnerability needs some context and work.In my experience, while people feel like it is cathartic to do, it never actually helps them in the long run. Not just that people are turned off by over sharing, but that it doesn't seem to help. More often than not I've found talking about normal stuff or getting people's mind off of their problems re-contextualises the issues, which in the long run helps then overcome them, more than constantly dissecting them from the same position.
>>82795922Yeah surprise to no one the average sexually promiscuous man got there by lying to women in order to get access to pussy that's not a novel concept and I don't have the misguided belief that women are supernaturally gifted at detecting good men. I have been around plenty of gullible women and watched them get burned it's just women are generally less likely to fake liking a man for sex
>>82795957Idk what this is about now lol, im just saying that women are never alone despite being seen as unequal. >Without equal respect I cannot form a relationship or attraction to another being and would never desire to. That is precisely why these men are alone.Tldr; Women need to feel respect for someone to like the opposite gender lest they dehumanize/infantilize them (like a child or animal or houseplant), men dont need to feel respect for a woman.
>>82795978Men should only sleep with women they respect but I can't prevent them from being liars other than simply avoiding sex until he has been properly vetted. In an ideal world this would not be necessary but we live in reality
>>82796017>Men should only sleep with women they respectThey respect them as women but not as equals. Attractive men dont even need to lie, they just dont see you as an equal.
>>82796017>Men should only sleep with women they respectthen every single man would be celibate except for the stupid ones and the weird jimmy stewart "actual nice guy" types
>>82795500post too high iq for this insane asylum of a board
>>82796066Yeah that's why I don't really care for conventionally attractive men and just avoid them. Some women delude themselves into thinking they can fix or change them and for those women they just have to learn by touching the stove and getting burnt sometimes. Same with men who let conventionally attractive women use them for money. It's not great but there's not much that can be done about it. The core problem has always been lookism and superficial people always reap what they sow so I'm not too concerned. These men aren't particularly unattractive or attractive, but being desperate losers doesn't magically make one respect women nor does it make them honest. They could probably go for women who are also losers who are draining and reliant on others but the two groups are always repulsed by that concept.
>>82796017What does any of this have to do with having no gf in your 30s? The guys in the OP are clearly too socially retarded to manipulate a woman into doing....anything for them. Do you know where we are?
>>82795500You forgot the word besmirch tryhard spasm
>>82796170groid tier post
>>82795588>>82795654Horns effect. You only interpret them as "narcissists" aka bad because theyre ugly losers.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horn_effect
>>82796146>These men aren't particularly unattractive or attractive, but being desperate losers doesn't magically make one respect women nor does it make them honestFew men would respect women like they would respect men, but if they are not attractive they have to indulge some pleasantries in line with what they deem appropriate treatment of a woman. They're not liars, they dont see you as a male equal, never ever, but they are not as crude as hot guys who can get away with that treatment (because women respect them more).>They could probably go for women who are also losers who are draining and reliant on others but the two groups are always repulsed by that concept.The female side yes, the male side wouldnt because of what I mentioned already. A man does not need to feel respect for a woman. He doesnt care if she works at mcdonalds. Vice versa is not the case.
>>82796197Women are probably just better off dating other women then I suppose? Since you can't love them the way they actually want to be loved. Maybe you guys should just go for mtfs instead?
>>82795394Fetishizing loserdom is a way to cope with not attempting self-improvement which itself is borne out of laziness and cowardice.It is much easier to romanticize and glorify being a loser than it is to strive to become a winner.Revaluation of values.
>>82795877Not the point of OP's thread at all.
>>82795885At the end of the day other men will still value women over you.
>>82796222This is a weird post hinting at frustration with me personally.But sure, I always encourage female separatism if women want it. If women want to be seen as equals with the respect and responsibilities necessary for such treatment(since respect based desire is earned and not inherent) but cant find it then they should do what they feel best.
>>82795500>Too bad Thinking Ape seems to have disappearedHis channel literally received an upload yesterday. You genuinely just wait for YouTube to spoonfeed you content on the homepage.
>>82796261Would you rather be a homeless person, or a billionaire's dog?
>>82796243>self-improvementI love buzzwords!
>>82795843There is a clear tone difference between the two post I (>>82795588) was only describing what I though caused the phenomenon, while >>82795654 brought morality into it to make a more successful bait post.
>>82795394the alternative is introspection and to realise that the problem is in who they have chosen to bethe average perma online is fifty layers of ego and a hundred layers of insecurity. the very idea that theyre at fault because they're mentally lazy and regressive dipshits who fucked themselves by falling for manosphere propaganda is not a reality they are strong enough to facetheyd rather wallow in self pity forever
>>82796402>the average perma onlinethe only people who say this are terminally online themselves
>>82795394they probably all lifemog me
>>82796415Not just that but everyone is a perma online. Normies still mostly use 4 apps but they all have billions of users
>>82796402>falling for manosphere propaganda"Manosphere propaganda" like Andrew Tate explicitly tells you you're a fucking loser who deserves nothing, not even sympathy. You're a Redditurd libshit who doesn't know what you're talking about.The Redpill has embraced self-improvement. Blackpill loser incel "communities" tell you le game was rigged from le start and that you should just lie down and die while everyone else pours out flowers over you.
>>82796310Would you rather be a fruit fly or an amoeba xdkys
>>82796415oh i am, but i avoided falling down the traps that most do, which is why i said "average">>82796471taint tells you to win by doing the exact thing that makes you a loser. he tells you to improve by being a worse and more selfish version of the you that adults all hate (with good reason)congrats on trying though, it is very impressive for a person with your, shall we say, capacities
>>82796505>but i avoided falling down the traps that most donigga youre on r9k, get some self awareness
>>82796591yeah, to make fun of people who choose to be incels, and to cheer on the people who want to changewhat else am i supposed for breaks when i work?
>>82795588>>82795589>hey my life sucks and I hate it>normies: FUCKING NARCISISTIC PSYCHOPATHSThey're really just evil huh
>>82796505selfishness is goodloserdom as a deeply ingrained psychological condition comes precisely from caring too much about how other people would feel if you did this or that thing, like exactly becoming extremely better than them
>>82796261>At the end of the day other men will still value women over you.They would never value her opinion more over mine in professional matters.
>>82796655Your opinion isn't valued. Your results are.
>>82796648nobody said psychopath, great strawman though. very honest in way that doesnt at all play into your victim mentality>>82796650no, it's not. its the excuse of narcissists to be lazy themselves while being pieces of shit to others. its a negative on everyone around you, and its the reason the world is so fucked.
>>82795394Simple reasonPosts like this.Endless reminders I will always suffer because Im not chad or chadlite. Fuck world and fuck this site.
>>82796676>Your opinion isn't valued. Your results are.Yeah, well they would still value a man's voice and results over a woman's since we are both men and aren't needed for DEI purposes.
>>82796686the reason the world is fucked is because of weak losersweak men create hard times
>>82796739yes, im well aware of that dumbass line of thinking that's parrotted by bif strong geniuses like elon fucking muskits not because of your selfish capitalist masters fucking over the world so they can gain everything at the expense of everyone else, no sir.it's also not them pushing a culture war that idiots like you buy into so you can fight their war for them against your fellow man, while they laugh at you for being a good little slave
>>82796650A lot of the black pilled autist types I know are ridiculously selfish, very pls respond, can only ever talk about themselves etc. The thing about modern loserdom is that it often exists in extreme positions, even positions that may seem to conflict of contradict. People who can be ridiculously selfish, whilst at the same time constantly worried about what others think. The simple truth is it comes from the absence of real life experiences or exposure and other stuff fills the gaps.
>>82796686Accusing someone of doing a routine / manipulation / weaponization is calling them a psycho pretty much, yeah
>>82796771you're a deranged leftshit, end of storygb2r
>>82796784self-absorbed =/= "selfish" = self-interest-focused
>>82796812No, I'm saying that plenty of these people are selfish, not just self absorbed, whilst also being the opposite. The epitome of modern society is people often living in complete extremes, without any consistency. The internet is full of such examples. People flick between two states rather easily these days. It gives you whiplash to see it.
>>82796695isnt posting this twice a bit obsessive ^_^
>>82796796no, its not. stop playing the victim.>>82796806and youre kicking the boots of people stepping on your neck, congrats. youre a tool, that is the totality of your mental accomplishment. enjoy elon's sloppy cum
>>82796620>to make fun of people who choose to be incelskeep seething goofy goober
>>82796648TRVKE>>82796686You're perceive these people as "narcissists" just because theyre ugly losers, and your pea brain assigns badness to them for that reason. Horns effect.
>>82795394Because it makes them money and gives them positive validation and attention they wouldn't get in real life. It's not even an exclusively male thing, just go go at all the multitudes of 2000s era inspired video blog slop on youtube.
>>82796850yes, making fun of miserable losers who choose to be miserable losers is me being mad. youre very smart>>82796868no, i dont. i know you have problems with critical thinking, but work on your comprehension skills please. theyre bad because they choose to hurt others rather than introspect, and then they make this the problem of everyone else by making the world a worse place instead of just questioning themselvesthis is where your eyes glaze over and your brain is again completely unable to understand anything that contradicts your victim mentality worldview
>>82796840hey my life sucks and I hate it>normies: FUCKING NARCISISTIC lol, lmao even, you normies never fell to make me laugh
>>82796887>getting this butthurt over people on youtubewhy are you so sad or narcissistic? genuine question
>>82796894hoo boy, remember when i said this:>i know you have problems with critical thinking, but work on your comprehension skills pleaseand this:>this is where your eyes glaze over and your brain is again completely unable to understand anything that contradicts your victim mentality worldviewnever said that being miserable made you narcissistic, i clearly talked about people who use their unhappiness to use others. shocking you missed that.>>82796923lol thats not geniune, you can do better than that
>>82796887>youre very smartI know, I know>theyre bad because they choose to hurt othersMaking a youtube video isnt violence. Your schizophrenic delusions arise from the fact that you perceive these men as bad merely because theyre low staus, so your lizard brain assigns "narcissism" to them to cope.See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horn_effect>An example of the horn effect may be that an observer is more likely to assume a physically unattractive person is morally inferior to an attractive person, despite the lack of relationship between morality and physical appearance.
>>82796887>making fun of miserable losers who choose to be miserable losers is me being mad.Why would you give a fuck about miserable losers? I couldn't care less about some basement dweller. >Because they hurt othersBy making mean comments online? Because irl normies outnumber loser violence by like 100 to 1.
>>82796932100% genuine. What happened in your life, pretty people use modeling for attention, money and validation. You have a problem when ugly people use it.hoo boy, remember when i said this:>i know you have problems with critical thinking, but work on your comprehension skills please not me lol
>>82796935I mentioned this here with my modeling example >>82796969He really doesnt get it still
>>82796935>i know you have problems with critical thinking, but work on your comprehension skills please>this is where your eyes glaze over and your brain is again completely unable to understand anything that contradicts your victim mentality worldviewnever said anything about attractiveness or social status, i entirely talked about who they choose to be. you cant read or understand anything though, so we're done>>82796945ah yes, the entire level of indiviudal and social harm of incels can be simplified to>making mean comments onlineif you believe this then you are profoundly mentally subnormal. thats it. just naughty comments and silly videos, thats all the harm they cause, yes sirjesus christ, lol, you think you should be taken seriously>>82796969never said anything about looks.>i know you have problems with critical thinking, but work on your comprehension skills pleasealso applies to youaight, ive had my fill at you guys constantly not hearing anything because you need to be victims, im outhave fun not at all reflecting on how many times i showed you you were wrong and declaring victory once i leavei know you will ;)
>>82797002>who they choose to beThey didnt choose to be anything. You pretend they decided to exist as losers because thats the only way you can reconcile your negative feelings towards a completely innocent person.
>>82797002still no response to Horn effect,
>>82796686>narcissistsHonestly, you caring this much about other people posting YouTube videos about themselves, makes it seem you live a sad and angry life
>>82795588>talks about his life>NARCISSISM!Then by that logic we are all narcissists. Wouldn't trying to project himself larger than what he feels himself to be a worse narcissism? Ultimately then there is always the self image, because that it is what it is. How can you claim that is narcissism when you are reduced to microbes and split hairs? Honestly bitch, it reads like you are projecting your insecurities about you making tiktoks recording yourself making duckfaces at the camera.
>>82795394victim consciousness, very feminine, 2 steps away from becoming trans
>>82797131It's one thing to complain, it's another to make the fact that you are a virgin your whole identity. Most people don't make internet videos about their boring ass life.
>>82797453>Most people don't make internet videos about their boring ass lifeThat's literally what over half of social media is and has always been. People sharing their mundane lives for attention and validation. The only difference is that these guys are incels and failed normalfags.
>>82797471You don't have a youtube channel called "Loser life" if you haven't made being a loser a core part of your personality.>That's literally what over half of social media is and has always beenMost people are lurkers or occasional commenters on social media, the vocal minority that post their whole life there have narcisistic tendancy.
I'm 25, and I haven't had a girlfriend since I was 17-18. I'm not sure what happened, but at some point around 18 or 19, my brain just broke.
I feel like a lot of these guys aren't even as big of losers as they're saying in the title when you watch the videos. It's click bait. The 30 year old loser industrial complex churns... It's a launchpad for a channel really. If talking about being a loser online pays as much as a minimum wage job for less work that sounds like the real problem, not fetishizing loserdom. Also being a loser is based. Don't be like these retard chuds.
>I'm 28 and I still haven't read Ulysses>I'm 28 and have never learnt all movements to a single suite>I'm 28 and I still haven't been pegged by a hot MATURE AGED woman>I'm 28 and I still haven't bought the little decalcifying tablets you're meant to use to clean your coffee machine, not because I can't afford them but because I hate driving twenty minutes to go to "the store.">I'm 28 and I still haven't written one (1) 4chan post that has accrued over one hundred (100) (You)s>I'm 28 and I still haven't collected every Pokemon in Pokemon Platinum>I'm 28 and I still haven't counted every hair on my head>I'm 28 and I still haven't visited Shakespeare's grave>I'm 28 and I still haven't jerked off in a public restroom>I'm 28 and I still haven't jerked off in an aeroplane>I'm 28 and I still haven't told my father "I love you," not because I don't love him, but because saying so out loud is extremely gay>I'm 28 and I still haven't collected cool shit from my grandmother's will (she's still alive)>I'm 28 and I still haven't gotten every achievement in Halo 3>I'm 28 and I still haven't written that one masterpiece, the one that was meant to demonstrate that I'm actually quite intelligent but I just choose to lay low, pass the time my own sort of way...>I'm 28 and I still haven't learnt to do that really fast finger-picking-strumming thing with my right hand on guitar>I'm 28 and I still haven't had a proper celebration of the fact that my age is a perfect number, the sum of all its factors>I'm 28 and I still haven't pissed from the fifth floor of a ten-story building into a tiny little bowl waaayyyyy below>I'm 28 and I still haven't visited Turkmenistan>I'm 28 and I still haven't crushed an empty soda can against my forehead completely in one go>I'm 28 and I still haven't learnt morse code>I'm 28 and I still haven't mustered cattle>I'm 28 and I don't know how to use a loom>I'm 28 and I don't know how paper is made>I'm 28 and this comment is too long
>>82795394You know, it's funny seeing posts like OP and people circlejerking him. You can tell that they're on a high horse, despite being even more obsessed about incel's lives than incels are themselves, kek.
>>82795394yeah i dont get it either. those normies are larping. only autsits are real losers. virgin autists
>>82795589If it works it works. Shutting up and suffering in silence never got anyone anything.
>>82796243Lel, you niggers always fall back to the same shit>T-They just weren't self improving enoughThen when a guy lists all the lengths he goes through to make his life better, it somehow just wasn't done probably and there's this one secret discipline he has been neglecting.
>>82796170>Y-you used words I don't like!>>82796282I thought he had moved to Rumble. Wasn't about to go investigate since I don't live my life here.
>>82796310As a homeless man, I could get lucky and spawn in Japan. As a billionaire's dog, I might get unlucky and spawn in Hasan's house.
Society goes to shit, sexual selection selects for worst traits possible, people that succeed in a shitty system become prideful about their achievements instead of realizing that they are adapted to a shitty environment, just like how a rose won't grow in a swamp they are just weeds as well, only bigger.Yeah, acting as if every man is going to win and being a loser is a bad thing.It's not, and your low iq for not realizing why this movement exists, really low iq.It's a response to years and years of social media only showing winners and people that "made it" in life. But these winners never address true societal issues, they just say "work harder bro". Never did I see them tell how to achieve a high-trust society again, how to invest in your community, how to be motivated by family and nation instead of your pride and self-interest.There is a reason high-iq men are being filtered out as low-iq men remain triumphant. We are a decaying society filled with narcissists that think they are worth shit. They ain't.Anyone with a heart would grieve the situation his population is getting into and realize it's not about muh hard work at all. It's not about investing even more into the system and looking down on good natured people for giving up. It's normal to be sad when you know the Jews are fucking everyone over, it's abnormal to try even harder to be their best goy in the process and boast about it. Soulless materialists.
>>82795589You dated someone like this didnt you
>>82795867>>82795936Nuggets of gold in a sea of trash
>>82795394Being an ambitious loser with constant setbacks despite the inhuman effort put in is a painful existence. Easier to give in and embrace the lower mentality at the cost of your future, dignity and self respect for most. Maybe 1% of the ambitious losers make it to entry-level normiedom which is a facsimile of the real thing. I'd rather strive for that than ldarmaxx though because I couldn't look myself in the mirror when I was in that phase, its not about how others perceive me anymore but how i perceive myself. The cost of giving up is too high for me, i have family counting on me. I don't want to go back to rotting no matter how much the world wants to push me in that box. As an ambitious loser you're fighting against destiny itself, wheen you romanticize it like that it feels kind of metal, living in spite.
>>82795843It's not like he's wrong, mr redditspacer
>>82799644whydo youtype like that,younigger?
>ldarmaxx what?
