Columbine is endlessly fascinating and one of the most impactful events of the last 30 years. Every non political mass shooting in American and Europe has some tie to it. They got what they wanted, a societal revolution. I'm convinced that if they never did it, mass shooting, especially in schools would remain isolated anomalies with little to no impact outside of the respective communities in which they occur. There have been shooting before and since that have way more casualties, like San Ysidro in 1984 and Uvalde in 2022. But something about Columbine stirs something in the minds of dejected outcasts more so than any other event in history. Nothing, no matter how deadly, will ever come close to Columbine. It was a lightning in a bottle incident. What an absolute macabre hellworld we live in, Columbine being a prime example of that.
>>82799297Now we're at the point in the US where school shootings just aren't noticed by the media. There was a school shooting the day Charlie Kirk was shot and there was absolutely nothing about it.
>>82799297The amount of school shooters that were fascinated by columbine is actually worrying . I have always said it and will always say it but incels that get mad at foids for not wanting them are copers . You cannot hate a foid for doing what she was programmed to do . Incels think that they are competing against women but they are actually competing with chads . If anything their anger should be reoriented towards chads for creating harems and fucking all the foids . >Why do you see a lot of subhumans with gf anon ? Well , the number of chads is limited and not all foids can get one . Therefore , they have to settle for a normie . Some actually manage to get a wealthy normie but the vast majority just chooses a random normie to be bred with .
>>82799297It was also the point where therapists outed themselves as a gaggle of half-witted hacks
>>82799376it's their culture
>>82799415I think the average person nowadays trusts therapy. I think therapy is useless but society largely trusts therapy.
>>82799297Yeah it was pretty awesome man the influence and aesthetics can't ever be matched
>>82799544Even worse, people who want to deal with the issues privately or with close friends are seen as dumb or ignorant
>>82799415Dylan never recieved any sort of therapy after their January '98 arrest, stating that he didn't need any when asked. Eric recieved anger management and went to Kevin Albert, a notoriously horrendeous psychiatrist that has since gained an awful reputation judging by the online reviews.>>82799565Aesthetics were a huge part of it. They were also an original starting point fornthis phenomenon because before them, when a teenager attacked his school, it was a spur of the moment kind of thing. A deranged looser brings his father's hunting rifle to school and shoot like 1 or 2 people. They had a full on, sophisticated military style plan and equipment and costumes. The plan failed but what it could have been still haunts a lot of people today.
>>82799652I think the propane tanks failing was a blessing in disguise because it led to so many iconic moments and CCTV footage and the leaked phone audio of them yelling.And yeah their military like planning and badass outfits were the cherry on top
>>82799415This therapy and mental health bullshit is a scam pushed by big normie to punish people with any miniscule difference in their brain structure
>>82799685And they were relatable to a lot of people because for the most part, the things they were into and sentiments they shared are normal for boys their age. They were like cartoon caricatures of 90's edge. The difference is, instead of growing out of it and looking back while cringing, they actually put their money where their mouths were and did it. Compare that with Cho, Lanza and company, who aren't relatable to a anyone but themselves because of how strange and damaged they were. A
>>82799787It's the same reason Elliot Rodger is so studied is because he is relatable to some people here
>>82799802Even Roger was way wierder than Eric and Dylan. The way Eric rants about star wars fans being losers and people walking too slow infront of him at the mall resonates with more people than Elliot's pseudo intellectual whining.
>>82799297i was really fascinated by columbine when i was 16, i never wanted to cause violence or anything but i was just so curious about the circumstances surrounding their lives and headspace. im pretty sure i was on a watch list. there was even a channel i watched called columbine video archives who was a former marine that investigated the shooting himself, but after some unknown person threatened him he deleted everything and went awol. miss his vids, some are still on archive.org.
>>82799909Yeah cva was cool. I think feds threatened him
>>82799909I watched his channel too and Cleaning Columbine before him, the latter was outed a degenerate who glorified them while pretending not to. CVA actually discovered the part of the CCTV footage that captures them placing the bombs almost exactly at 11am throwing the whole established timeline off.
>>82799685Fun fact the font that Dylan used (Bremen Bold) was dicovered very recently after the hq photos were released. We still have no clue what Eric's Natural Selection looked like and what font was used. This is the best we have (Pic rel Eric buying propane at a gas station that morning wearing the shirt under the flannel).
>>82799926Cva was making too much noise and def got threatened by some sort of law enforcement
>kids obsessed with columbine (again)the kids just fuckin love columbine dont they, god tumblr was full of it back in my day
>>82799989I remember that too, didn't interact with it because "tumblr was for girls" lmfao.
>>82799544Normies trust therapy due to a literal propaganda campaign.
>>82799685>badass outfitsAccording to Eric's todo list before the attack he intended to get REB tattooed on his arm and a haircut. He also put "get laid" on there. That didn't work out for him.
>>82800054Therapy is like hipnosys. It works on some people, but not others.
>>82800087It's just dependent on the individual therapist being competent or well meaning. 0/3 picked up I was abused or fucked in the head, one literally played on his phone for half the session, another tried to pressure me to keep giving him money because he knew I was too fucked to stand to that. They get like 8 times the minimum wage for this shit
>>82799544>>82799652>>82799698No I'm talking about the ones that had a hero complex and started treating lonely outcasts like convicts
>>82799297Strikes me as being unworthy of attention
>>82799415Yup, there's nothing wrong with the evil fuckers who bully people, it's the victims that are mentally ill.fuck normalfags.
>>82799297What amazes me is that, despite having relatively low casualties compared to modern shootings, this one shooting STILL is the most prominent in the American psyche with all this cultural shit surrounding it and what someone thinks of when they think of a mass shooting.Also the only one with two shooters.
>>82800394They were those niggas man fr
>>82800381I'm pretty sure that the change in child psychologist culture after Columbine directly resulted in the male loneliness crisis today.
>>82799297Nothing cool about these useless wastes of life. They're cowardly and threw their entire lives away for essentially no reason at all. They were anti-religion as well.
there was another copycat in Cali.
>>82799977fuck 'em, release the Basement Tapes.
>>82800394It wasn't the only one. There was literally one a year or so prior at a middle school with 2 perps. Westside middle school.
>>82800723Yeah dude. Totally nothing to do with tinder, tiktok, and music all programming cunts to look down on men
>>82800765Boo hoo nigger cry more
>>82799839this is really true. Rodger has his own niche, in that he attracts a fuckton of pseudo-intellectuals that see themselves in him or as like-minded to him.
>>82799297Shit, man, imagine if their plan didn't fail and those propane bombs in the cafeteria actually exploded. Also, has anyone seen Zero Day? Such a fucking vibe.
>>82799297Only literal trannies care about Columbine. Something about this incident in particular that draws special interest fixation from mentally ill weirdos.
>>82801558It's because the narrative is that they were bullied so outcasts latch onto the power fantasy of punishing their social superiors for shitting on them. Turns out they weren't actually bullied though and were just edgy as fuck.
>>82801722Theu were bullied and it was a major contributing factor in why they did what they did and where they chose to it. It wasn't the only factor and they were definetly not outcasts but they got it pretty bad, especially Eric being 5'9'' and skinny. The pendulum swung in the opposide direction with secondaries who know nothing about the case and start saying that they weren't bullied at all.
>>82801544The best found footage movie ever and the acting is so good you could pass it off as real for someone who doesn't know.
>>82799297Society is so bleak that Eric and Dylan would be normies today even though they were incel outcasts by 90s standards.
>>82801544I have a theory that the propane bombs were never gonna be strong enough to cause the level of destruction they were hoping for. It probably would have looked like what we got in CCTV footage, a fireball quickly put out by the sprinklers.
>>82801814Seriously, why do people insist they weren't bullied when we have more than enough proof that they were? Yes they were also assholes and arguably bullies themselves, doesn't change that they were still bullied.
>>82802626That's just people who inject themselves into topics they know nothing about and parrot a popular, contrarian lie.
>>82802519the can of propane would have just propelled through the air and hit 1 person
Sometimes I think about that one black school shooter who killed 1 person, fired randomly without hitting anyone, then killed himself after like 10 secondsHis "manifesto" was literally a bunch of entry level /pol/ bullshit about black people being dumb and jews being evil and a bunch of jokes. I'm sure he was depressed, but nothing about him was that particularly extreme or crazy compared to a lot of male zoomers.What I'm trying to say is, he seemed like he shot up his school not because he wanted to murder people, but because he felt like he needed to. He wanted validation from other outcasts, and when someone is an outcast they shoot up a school, right? I wonder if he regretted what he did immediately afterEric and Dylan were genuinely full of rage, wanted to murder, and wanted to die. But it's possible that there's a new trend of kids shooting up their school just because they wanna be their "literally me" figures, get attention, and validate their own depression which really isn't as extreme as they think Zoomers are so desensitized that they see murder not as taking someone's life - but as vibes
kip kinkel is a funny one
>>82802626Doesn't justify what they did. The people they killed were random library nerd kids who never did anything to them.
>>82803259I didn't say that it did. When I was younger, around their age actually (maybe 16) I was all for them. Revenge woohoo!! And all that. Now that I'm 22 I suppose I've matured and I think it's sad that they killed innocent, even kind people yet let one of their actual bullies go.
>>82803259those were npcs in a doom game to them
>>82801501Nothing to cry about, the victims and perpetrators have no affiliation to me. You should be the one crying since your heros, whose cocks you, suck are rotting in the ground and will never come back.
>>82803234they birthed a retarded demon spawn child thingthe parents were normal
>>82803353Nta but they were both cremated.
>>82799297I think it's hilarious how it took the glowniggers ~30 years to finally consider mass shooting fanbois and the true crime community an actual threat. And this only happened after they set up all the infrastructure to gather the dumbfucks into one place (r/masskillers and other grooming pits) and failed to do a single fucking thing to police them.
I was really fascinated by columbine when I was in highschool. watched every single documentary ever made on them, rewatched the really good one at least 3 or 4 times. Read all the transcripts, newspapers, found some obscure websites that still update to this day on all documentation regarding them. It actually wasnt that long ago I deleted my Columbine folder filled with images and gifs of them. They truly did ascend. Their existence feels like an encapsulation of their reality, a memory that feels as though it was always meant to happen, two individuals that were inevitable, the living action of the passing "what if" present in many. They were free. Two troubled kids, for the briefest moment in time, freed themselves from the constraints of their very reality. They untethered themselves from All in order to be Free. Could you imagine? Being among the first, being effectively unimpeded, free to load up and actualize a level of Doom, to cover all that you have ever known in a sheet of blood simply because you willed it so? In that moment, they were Gods, just as they wished to be. Now they are dead, the final cells of their lifeless corpses finally rotted out while Chad and nearly every other would-be victim relax in their retirement homes, happy and content with Life, as they lived it. Hm.
>>82804241https://youtu.be/H5SBPaFhplI?si=LRjAcN7E9D5mX1f1
>>82804241Towards the end of their massacre, they started sparing people for no real reason. There were a couple people they saw that they could've easily shot but they just kept walking, as if they were bored I wonder if they felt jaded, like what was happening wasn't real. It probably felt exciting at first, but I'm really curious as to how they felt after they killed most of their victims. Maybe they figured that killing more people wouldn't replenish the god like feeling they had just minutes ago? Either way, it might've felt like they were dreaming after a certain point
>>82804318they got scared and stopped killing people
>>82804318They were trying to set off the bombs and ventured into the caffeteria twice to do so. Inbetween those trips they wanderd the school lenght wise, probably checking if the police had entered anywhere. They were still hooting and hollering, setting off explosives and banging on doors. They were very lucid.
>>82804352were they on drugs or alcohol ?
>>82804370No and no. Eric's autopsy revealed trace ammounts of Luvox which he was taking as prescribed by his doctor. Dylan was completely clean.
>>82804352They were clearly pissed off that none of the bombs worked despite their attempts, but I remember hearing about how either eric or dylan (or maybe both of them) were looking right at this girl that was hiding and decided to keep moving, or they fired at her, missed, and despite it being a point blank shot they said fuck it and moved on without firing againThis may have been right after eric broke his nose
>>82804318I think they were disappointed. I think they felt a feeling we've all felt so many times, or perhaps only a few. The build of dopamine towards an anticipated Thing that would bring great joy, something youre Looking Forward Too. Even when it is enjoyable, when you are have a good time, you still think "oh, this is it."I think they went into it blood pumping, toes and fingers tingling on the drive there, in the parking lot as they got their shit from the trunk is where it feels flat, theres a vacant feeling in the air but the pulsing in their skulls still present. Then, the first shots, the first kills. Excitement. Adrenaline pumping, they move forward, but as they progress through the building, that vacant feeling reemerges, only this time, now comfortable with the shooting and the environment and the blood, no longer does their brain pulse, the adrenaline is still their, the fear, the anticipation, all present, but muted by the vacant feeling. This is it?
>>82804443why did they not practice setting off the bombs in the past
>>82804443Dyan let someone run off at the beginning of the massacre and never fired at him even though it was point blank. He didn't shoot anyone whenever he was seperated from Eric.
>>82799393They weren't incels, you brainrotten cretin
>>82804471They did with the smaller ones, like pipe bombs, but the main two propane bombs were built that same morning only a few hours beforehand because building them and then trying to hide them for days at their houses would have been impossible.
>>82804444yea well people like delta force navy seals can kill people alot for many hours and not give a fucki think something was wrong with eric and dylan
>>82804489do you have any idea what website or book they found to learn how to build bombs ?
>>82804471yea it's pretty retarded. maybe they had nowhere to safely test it without causing commotion or maybe they couldn't bear the idea of the bombs not working so badly that they didn't even want to know until they had already committed to killing people >>82804503anarchist cookbook, it's bullshit though obviously
>>82803201Eric and Dylans actions after the bombs failed to go off makes me think they started to regret it a bit. They spared anyone they actually had a conversation with and started pacing the school like crazy just shooting at random shit when they could have killed way more people.
>>82804525They shot at the ambulance evacuating Lance Kirklin(?) On their return trip to the library, right before their suicides. The only thing theyregretted was the bombs not working.
>>82804086This. If society had just dropped the fucking hammer on the edgelords, columbiners, "trench coat mafia" types and other degenerate mass shooter fanbois back when they first came out maybe we wouldn't be having I CAN'T BREEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDDD every other week.
>>82804550Or made fun of them and look like idiots instead of glorifying them in a way
>>82799376Partially because it's becoming more common, partially because people are advocating for LESS dramatic coverage of school shootings because it starves prospective shooters of the notoriety they crave
>>82804541i thought it was interesting when eric had the shoot out with policemaybe they were talking to people so that people would know it was them or something
>>82804557That might not be enough. It's certainly not doing the job in the present considering how much "salad bar extremist terrorism" keeps cropping up in the news. Shit's so bad the national security types had to make that term up to describe dying over maymays.
>>82804562This has been protocol for about ~5 years now, and is only partially reversing recently, mainly because of the incompetents in the current administration that want to shit out sensational blurbs for twatter.
>>82804564Eric had four shootouts with police. The first with Neil Gardner, the second when Paul Smoker came to assist, both of these through the west enterance glass windows. The third when they entered the librabry amd fourth when they returned to the library. Ballistic evidence shows that Dylan did not participate in any of these, instead either doing his own thing or watching Eric's back.
>>82804605what a badass eric was
>>82804642He had the carbine, better suited for long range and Dylan most likely knew that he couldn't afford to engage since he dropped more ammo than he fired due to forgetting some in his car and weapon malfunctions causing him to ditch magazines.
>>82804702wtf. stuff should not have malfunctioned like that.dylan was covering him in case a swat team came in. why didnt they send a swat team ?
>>82804702yea a carbinebut still a shitty 9mmwould have been crazy if they had bigger assault rifles
>>82804743The first swat team entered shortly after they were both dead, from the opposite end of the school with an outdated map and impossible verbal communication due the fire alarms. It took them over 2 hours to reach the library.
>>82804777holy shit. it was like hell in there.
>>82804605Very cool and interesting
imagine if they lived and had to go to prison
the most curious question of it all is where they are right now and how much never ending suffering they're experiencing for it? wonder if they think they're cool or not? and it's both funny and cringe to think that even some dips in this thread think they're cool for going after unrelated non bullies and yet now they're probably taking it up the ass or some retarded bullshit around the clock with internal bleeding and shit
>>82805513harris is in hell fighting infinite hordes of demons with a shotgun laughing hysterically while klebold is just screaming
I live right by Columbine. Have my whole life. Was in Elementary nearby, and we went into fucking lockdown mode. All I can remember is huddling under my desk in the dark, with an endless parade of sirens going by when Columbine happened.I will say that the shooting deeply impacted and altered not just the community where it happened, but the world in general. We've had school shootings before the Columbine Massacre. But this one exposed a lot of imperfections in American society. Unironically they were just kids. I can't remember if one of them was 18 but it doesn't matter, nobody knows shit at 18 anyway. Over the next couple of weeks, and even years, I watched the high school across town become a talking point, a symbol, and a monument. We'd hold a day of remembrance at school every single year grades K-12. I think sometimes (I can't remember) the district gave us the day off.What's weird is that it wasn't only until maybe 5-6 years ago I came across the footage of Eric and Dylan killing people, the bodies, and the bodies of the killers themselves. It's difficult to watch kids filled with such sick hate gunning down other teenagers. I've seen some heinous things on the internet but the Columbine shit is really hard to see.One last thing: If you're from Colorado, or have lived here long enough -- especially around Littleton -- you don't joke about Columbine. Nobody cares how edgy your joke is, you don't do it.
>>82804318The adrenaline died down and I suppose they just wanted to die.>>82804444Nicely written and checked. It's a shame that life is like this.>>82804491They were heavily suicidal and depressed>>82806186Interesting perspective anon. Eric was 18 and Dylan was 17 when they died. I also look at them as just kids now. I sure as shit didn't know anything when I was 18 and definitely made bad choices.
>>82806186I'm at the point where I think anyone fanboiing mass shooters needs to be pre-emptively locked up since they've pretty much admitted to homicidal ideation at this point, making them a danger to society. >muh civil lib-hurrrrrrrrr-tiessFuck that. You know what happens when one of them decides to copy their gay idols? The rest of the population has to either pay with their blood or the loss of their own civil liberties. It's high time they pay their fair share of the problem that they themselves perpetrated.
>>82806801I will say it's really strange to see like 19 year old kids making Eric and Dylan into an aesthetic. But I;m a little more biased.>>82806572Exactly. I think we like to think of the people who do stuff like this are some 40 year old drifters, but they're not. They're out kids, and they are literally in our backyard.
>>82806865It took 30 years but the counter-terrorism types have finally figured out that these types are a real threat: https://www.isdglobal.org/digital_dispatches/memetic-violence-how-the-true-crime-community-generates-its-own-killers/Wonder how many people had to die and how many lives had to be ruined first before they finally arrived at the common sense conclusion the whole country had been screaming at them for about that long.
>>82804491>people like delta force navy seals can kill people alot for many hours and not give a fuckI can tell you've never been anywhere close to a real military vet. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if your local shithole town didn't even have a VA hospital.
>>82804474Yes they were, prototypes of it at least. Don't try to rewrite history.
>>82803259fascinating. But there's no point trying to claim bullying against them never happened.
>>82801722quite the contrary. People like thinking their heroes were badass commandos and action hero chads, and not the losers they were. If they just released the tapes already everyone would see how immature and insecure they really were.
>>82801814It's because a gay man who's pro-guncontrol wrote a cash grab book claiming they weren't bullied and just crazy. Podcasts parrot that narrative while doing zero deep research on their own initiative.It was the narrative made to protect the school admin from consequences, and to protect the local PD from their numerous failures. The "logic" I guess being "some people are just crazy and would have done it regardless, so it's actually not our fault because nothing anyone could have said or done would have changed the outcome." bunch of nonsense, they saw the signs and kept humiliating them.
I don't think they really understood what they were doing until it was too late. They couldn't really imagine the reality of what it would actually be like, and by the time they found out, it was already happening. They might have thought it would be like in a movie or video game.
>>82799376I have a feeling it's more about them not wanting potential mass shooters to be inspired by each other when they see it on the news.
>>82799297Why the fuck are you autists overanalyzing these two? They killed people, big deal. Maybe if the world wasn't so cruel and unsympathetic, they wouldn't have shot up the school
>>82799297I dont believe that it was only 2 shooters there were more they just got off due to lack of evidence
>>82808369It's a historical event that is fascinating to research and talk about, like ww2 and shit. No different.
>>82808376I believe some of their friends have been told what was about to happen and probably even encouraged them but the shooting itself was perpetraded by the two and no one else.
>>82808389you dont fit so much explosive guns and ammo on 2 pizza wages
>>82808405This has been brought up and debunked bybthe fact that they didn't spend money on basically anything besides their car insurance. They didn't regularly smoke or go on dates. Plus it was a better time.
>>82808423yeah i dont believe that nobody has the discipline for that especialy not 2 teenage alcoholics.
>>82808501They weren't alcoholics, Dylan drank but the reports of the ammount were exagerrated and he came back clean every time during testing at diversion. Eric was a poser who admitted that the idea of alcohol was better than actually drinking it because he couldn't stand it. He kept it in his room because he liked the rebel aspect of it. Eric had the discipline, Dylan had the enthusiasm. They fed off each other and were a match made in hell. Not everything is a conspiracy, these things happen sometimes with no deeper plot.
>>82804518>anarchist cookbook, it's bullshit though obviouslyWell true, much better are those doomsday improvised warfare guidebooks, I think they were Korean War era or sth, pentagon had a series of them detailing much of guerilla tactics and survival, most of them available in libraries and even on Internet back then
>>82808871It's Vietnam era, composed by an edgy, draft dodging anarchist who later disovowed his stance and became a devout Anglican.
>>82804562>>82808287This tactic of dissuading shooters by ignoring them doesn't seem to be working, if anything it has just normalized the carnage. What a stupid fucking move.
>>82808935Found the shit I was talking about. One of those guides was TM-31-210 Improvised Munitions. Acutal gem, not bunch of LSD-laced bullshit
