>>82892215
You didn't fuck anything up, but like you said in your post
>her bff made the classic bail out call and she stayed
Her friends got to her head that you're not the right guy

I'm sorry, man but these things happen
I mean, you *can* try and text or call her but she's gone now

>>82892215
forgot to add that we exchanged numbers after the boob thing

JFL, girl doesnt reply, guy immediately thinks its his fault..

We live in a society..

>>82892215
shouldve tried to kiss her

>>82892238
it was clear from the conversation that her friends had already gone through my profile before the date
they could have easily rejected me then but hadn't
>>82892261
whose fault could it be?
it means i'm inadequate in some way
it's like job applications that you never get a response to
a copy paste rejection like with most job applications is better than just ghosting
constructive criticism or pointing at some flaw would be even better
worst part is just waiting in silence
>>82892281
i should have but i'm scared of rushing things
if i do see her again i will for sure

shameless self bump
i'm in agony and need your advice for what to do

>>82892360
there is no advice to be had anymore anon
either she messages you back and you are more assertive or this was it and you need to go back to the apps and look for someone else

>>82892304
>they could have easily rejected me then but hadn't
online and irl are two different things, bud
could be anything from the "vibe" or "aura" or whatever bs zoomers are into nowadays
point is, her friends don't like you = her friends don't want her to date you

But still though, keep trying
Maybe even try and catch her alone without her friends' influence

It sounds like you did everything right. She just didn't feel about you that way. Keep at it anon, it's a numbers game. Maybe the next girl will stay.

>>82892364
if it truly is over i'll need to think of at least some hail mary shot
just letting it go without doing anything
question is now or in few days
>>82892377
her friends weren't there, just the two of us
her friend just made the typical call to give her an out to quit if she felt like it wasn't going well
she also missed the first call because we were too focused on each other
>>82892387
if she didn't feel it then why did she let me walk her home?

>>82892403
What is this nigga on? Why are you so attached?

>>82892403
oh shit man, should've put that part out there!
Hell yeah, that changes everything man!

30 hours ago right?
Give her... one more day
See ya tomorrow, bud
Rest assured, you've got this in the bag

>>82892415
what board do you think you are on?
i'm desperate as fuck and this girl was nearly perfect
i really thought i'd hit a home run with my performance as well
if she texted me
>sorry but i don't want to see you anymore
i'd let it go
>>82892419
which part did i leave out?
>walk her home holding hands
this?
ok, tomorrow i will do something
should i text or call her?

>>82892442
oh you probably meant being with just her
i thought it was obvious, people usually go to dates alone
also i thought the bail out call is a common trope
here it's pretty much a given that the girl will get a call 30min into the date

>>82892442
I assumed like, you guys went out on a date and her friend's sitting like a few tables away where she can see you guys
Nah dude, you're fine unironically

Chill out
>text or call her
Better if she text/calls you first

>>82892481
we actually had to change the pub because there was an event in the one we had agreed on
from the call it seemed that her friend was a bit concerned because she'd walked past the pub and didn't see her inside and she didn't answer the phone the first time
>Better if she text/calls you first
obviously, but how long is too long?
thank you though, my mind is a bit calmer now

>>82892215
>ask about seeing each other again
You fucked up. You don't ask her, you tell her when to meet for a 2nd date.

>>82892505
calmer but still mildly panicking
>>82892506
that's a good point, i should probably have made a suggestion right away in that message
i'll keep this in mind the next time
wish there was a handbook or something for dating, not like a pickup artist andrew tate tier shit but just good advice like this

>>82892505
Most folks take like 3 days to fully process things before making a big decision
Ideally, 72 hours

Just chill out, man
You've got this

>>82892532
ok thanks for the soothing words
i will give her space

>>82892215
>>she made gesture with her eyes to let me know she noticed
>>i hadn't really tried to hide it so i knew she knew
>>we talk about it a bit and it seems that she enjoys being looked at
Okayyyy good ..
>walk her home holding hands
>hug and tell her good night
>she goes inside
>walk home
>date lasted about 5 hours
>text her the next day thanking her for the night and ask about seeing each other again
>30 hours later still no response
You dumb motherfucker

Should've gone inside baka, she wanted a good fuck before bothering to figure out if she would even want to see you again as anything more than that, just imagine the cognitive load she saves with that

>>82892215
>text her the next day thanking her for the night and ask about seeing each other again
This was your mistake, should have waited a few days, she knows you aren't seeing other bitches and that you don't have other options, thus you are a low quality man and she can do much better.

>>82892591
Nah don't do this. Don't even kiss her on the first date, first date you get to know her, charm her then second date you go for drinks or something and the sexual tension would be so thick she'll want to jump your bones.

>>82892592
it's not like i've never dated
i had a 4 month relationship recently but that girl was insane
>>82892623
this was my thinking at the time

>>82892623
Disagree, don't be overly pushy but absolutely go for the lay. If she says no she's likely not into you.

2 date maximum before lay or downgrade.

>>82892215
You did nothing wrong. She enjoyed herself and that's it. You think she doesn't have a hundred more options to spend her precious time? Do you know how many more guys she can pick from her socials to get different types of dates? You have no idea clearly

>>82892215
Honestly don't even bother with sharing yourself like this. Do your best to see multiple women at the same time and fuck as often as possible (even using escorts if needed)
Shit like this is the reason why you should NEVER get attached to anyone, unless if you're officially committed to each other.

>>82892678
>if she says no she's likely not into you.
I see now it's on tinder- which women use for casual hookups so maybe, but OP seems like he wanted something more than a casual hookup and sex on the first date shows that's the only thing you're there for.

>>82892678
sex on 2nd date has been my policy
>>82892679
yes, i know and i try not to think about it
thanks match group
>>82892684
i'd prefer an actual relationship but getting that without doing bunch of short hookup seems to be hard
>>82892712
she recently got out of a very long relationship
at least by her words shes looking for a new one and not just hookup
>sex on the first date shows that's the only thing you're there for
right, and it's not the only thing i'm after

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>>82892215
It's always another guy bro. Just let it go, you got cucked, don't just sit in the corner and keep watching helplessly

>match
>on tinder
Wrong board

>>82892962
i only started getting more of them once i grew a big beard

>>82892215
you didn't do anything wrong during the date. she probably even liked you, but she's seeing multiple guys and she liked those guys better. where you did fuck up, however, is how you handled the situation afterwards. you cooked yourself by sending so many messages and trying to call her. the only thing that works after the obligatory 'thank you, let's do it again' text is to just wait. if she doesn't respond within 30+ hours, just leave it. eventually she might reach out, or she might not. never overpursue like that under any circumstance though.

>>82893860
>you cooked yourself by sending so many messages and trying to call her
i sent a single message like 33 hours ago
did you paste the thread on some shitty llm that misunderstood the facts or are you just this stupid?

>>82893951
>>text her again
>>call her
>try innocent message on tinder like >did my sms get through?
not sure why you're acting like such a douchbag but you literally typed this:
>text her again
>call her
>try innocent message on tinder like >did my sms get through?

that's too much is what I was getting at. if she's silent, don't chase.

>>82893982
see the empty line? that's there for a reason
those are just options i'm considering going forward

>>82893982
i have not sent anything after that initial followup message

>>82892403
>in few days
In like 2 or 3 more days go out and do something and send her another message that you do want to see her again and that you would like it is she was there having fun with you at the moment.

>>82894026
Glad you liked the date.
You cannot and should not treat any woman as if she is the best thing in your life. Whether this is the case or not, you should always be operating from the position of: I live my life and "I will achieve everything I set out to, women may join up for a while and that's great, but my life continues regardless." You are the one who has to get rich, has to stay fit, achieve things. That's you either way. Take it from a guy with a pretty wife and multiple kids. Women show up when you achieve things and get noticed socially, that's how it goes. This girl might be great, but your goal isn't her. Your goal is the achieving of things and being recognized socially and women are a byproduct of that, including this girl.
Bottom line - great job on the date, don't put too much thought into it, continue trying for more whether or not she responds. This mentality alone will up your chances with all of them.

>>82894183
i already have a well respected job that pays well and i work out regularly
i have friends and coworkers look up to me and i'm close to my family
i also have hobbies and do interesting things
family is just the thing i desire the most in this world
i'm not neglecting the rest of my life while striving for it
but it's truly depressing how difficult it is and i was ready to end it earlier this year before suddenly ending up in a shitty relationship
even though that relationship was bad it gave me motivation and confidence
but i'm still very insecure and this just reminds me of all the other times i've been ghosted

>>82894293
If that is the case, then you are doing well and I am genuinely glad to hear it. It sounds like you understand the problem and just need someone else to help keep you focused on the real goal. I share your desire for a family and its why I got fit and started working hard in life, that is what I wanted too. I cannot stress enough however, that having the family cannot be the goal because it isnt an end point and once you have the family you have to work that much harder to keep it. Marriage is hard because women are terrible people, you won't have to trust me when you find out.
I cannot stress enough that the goal have to remain achievement and respect. The reason you achieve can change, but women are accessories and you cannot delude yourself into thinking they are anything more than that or even that you would want them to be.
Having said that, kids are the best man. They are the best feeling and reason and motivation you will ever have and I sincerely hope you get to have some because they are worth every hardship. Women on the other hand, are the hardship. A means to an end, imo. I would never make them a priority, mainly because it actually makes your results worse if you can believe it. Even in marriage, they feel like they want things, but when they get you to compromise, they lose respect for you, and once that's gone, they no longer see you as human and will hurt you like you would hurt a lamp. It's just how it is.

>>82894293
Best advice I ever got:
You cannot make anyone love you or even like you. But you can make everyone respect you, and respect is better.

Text her right now and ask her out to dinner.

>>82894636
>having the family cannot be the goal because it isnt an end point
i can have multiple goals concurrently and consecutively
reaching one doesn't mean life ends, it just means setting a new one
>women are terrible people, you won't have to trust me when you find out
this i already know
>kids are the best man. They are the best feeling and reason and motivation
this is why i desire a woman
i've had sex and it's good and fine but i could live without it
i like being together with someone but i can also live without that
but i refuse to live to an old age childless and if i have to i will end up killing myself
it'll happen maybe at 35, maybe at 40 who knows, maybe sooner
>>82894662
that does sound like a good advice
>>82894667
now is 10pm where i live, bit late for tonight and tomorrow i'm busy from morning till midnight at least
tomorrow i kind of have to get drunk and i'm a bit worried i'll crack and text or call her drunk

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>>82892215
You might as well pull a desperation play. "I really like you. That was the best first date I've ever had. Can I see you again?". Fuck the games, just be straightforward. And you yourself said that you think not kissing her was your fault, which means that you didn't show enough interest, and this simple message fixes it. Women are retarded, she legit might think you're not into her for some reason. If she still doesn't want you, at least you tried.

>>82894715
i will throw a hail mary like that if she doesn't reply
should i do it tomorrow morning around 11am or saturday?
i already told her very straight how much i liked it when we parted
unlikely that she thinks i'm not into her but as you said, women are retarded so it is possible

>>82892962
Yeah fuck off to /adv/. You're going to ruin the cozy no normie vibe

>>82894756
i forgot that board even exists
i used to be an incel and this is my board
us unfortunate should try to help each other
that's how you create cozy vibe
who you should kick off the board are all the whores

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>>82894753
>should i do it tomorrow morning around 11am or saturday?
STOP THE FUCKING GAMES. The entire point is to be straightforward. Legit just do it now. Stop overthinking it. Just spill your brain onto a text message and see what happens. If it doesn't work out, it legit wasn't meant to be anyway.

I'd even enourage you to go even harder on making her know how much you liked her. "I keep thinking about you and I really think there's something special here. I've been feeling down because you haven't gotten back to me. Can we talk again?"

I know this kind of advice is generally frowned upon, but I personally just fucking hate games. Just tell her what's in your mind. If she does not feel the same way, then you guys are just incompatible and that's all there is to it. But hiding it and pretending you don't feel that way is retarded imo

Good luck anon, go get her

>>82892215
she wanted you to kiss her, she was into you. The butterflies in her stomach were tingling, she was nervous and hoping you would make the first move. But you didn't. She got angry and took it as you being too meek or she took it personal and thought maybe you weren't attracted to her. Anyway, the moment is gone. Learn from this moment and try to be more aware for next time

>>82894788
how hard do you want me to go, i know the building she lives in i could just go bang her door right now
it's only like a quarter mile there

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>>82894801
Okay not that hard anon hahahah
But that's the kind of attitude you need. Just do it over a text message instead. And can you please keep this thread alive and give us an update? I'm invested at this point

>>82894788
checked
>this kind of advice is generally frowned upon
have you considered that it's frowned upon because it doesn't work?
just because you hate games doesn't mean they don't have a place
i'm not pretending, the message i sent her was already expressing that i liked it a lot and want to see her again
others tell me to give her time to think, others to cease the day
>>82894790
yeah i understand it now
i'm generally very affectionate and physical so it's easy for me to overstep my bounds
because of this i was being careful but i guess it backfired
>>82894808
i'm going to draft a message and see how it will turn out, if it's good i might send it
i'll keep it alive and i'll make a new thread if it dies
thanks for caring man
that's such a sad picture
those boys are sure to be incels

>where did I fuck up?
Probably about here
>we eat at mcdonalds

>>82894885
it was her idea and it was right next to the pub
i don't really like mcdonalds so i took coffee and some chicken burger
the burger was very bland and the coffee was bitter

>>82894905
It was a test you dummy and you failed.

>>82894951
i actually suggested something more high class to her first
i wasn't really even hungry so it didn't really matter to me
i hate tests and mind games women play but i doubt this was one, she had a specific order that she makes every time

>hug and tell her good night
>she goes inside
No, this is where OP ducked up. That's where you're supposed to be inebriated, swaggering, and pushing yourself on her. You were supposed to go in there, pee inside her butt all night, and then wake up to the smell of free breakfast.

>>82894808
ok rough translation of my draft text message
>Hey ****! I had a lot of fun with you and I really wish to see you again. You were very funny and the way you cared about things shone from you wonderfully. If you don't feel the same just tell me and I will stop bothering you. Regards, *****
good?
>>82895025
yes i know, now i need to remedy the situation

>>82895050
I think you should add that it was the best first date you've ever head. I think it's a very sweet line and she'll appreciate it

>>82895061
>Hey ****! I had a lot of fun with you and I really wish to see you again. You were very funny and the way you cared about things shone from you wonderfully. It was the first date I've ever had. If you don't feel the same just tell me and I will stop bothering you. Regards, *****
there you go
any other improvements?
man it makes me anxious just writing it
pressing the send will be tough

>>82895075
>It was the first date I've ever had
Fix this and I think you're mostly good to go
>You were very funny and the way you cared about things shone from you wonderfully
This to me seems like a bit of an awkward line. A compliment is really good especially on humor, since she's a tomboy, but what exactly did she care about that she talked about? Make it specific, idfk

Its crazy how you guys overcomplicate stuff so much.

Ask her one last message to let her vent about you and that she can go as nofilter and hard as possible and that you wont contact her afterwards. Women normally really like venting and communicating with the feeling of having won, so they will likely actually give you the feedback you need that way.

>>82895127
>Fix this and I think you're mostly good to go
well spotted
it's correct in the original language, just a flippy flop while translating
>but what exactly did she care about that she talked about
family and other people mostly, maybe i'll change it to
>about others

>>82892215
as someone who isn't an incel and who fucks on the first date, i'll explain very clearly for you what happened here: she wanted to fuck and you didn't deliver, so now she thinks you're a weak wimp of a man that doesn't go for what he wants out of boldness. women want someone that jumps into the unknown, and you didn't do that. my current gf is attached to me because i laid the fucking pipe and came inside her first date, and every other time she comes over she knows she's going to orgasm multiple times. you didn't escalate sexually and so now she genuinely thinks you're an incel

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>>82892215
>>so where did I fuck up?
By having expectations beyond enjoying that night for itself. Women are flaky. Even if you get a gf they're going to require maintenance and even that might not be enough. Sorry anon.

>>82895127
>Hey ****! I had a lot of fun with you and I really wish to see you again. You were very funny and the way you cared about others shone from you wonderfully. It was the best date I've ever had. If you don't feel the same just tell me and I will stop bothering you. If so I'd appreciate some feedback. Regards, *****
>>82895171
your mention of women feeling like they won reminds me of this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YDqm7LXt2g
>>82895212
i will do better in the future
typically i am a guy who jumps head first into anything without thinking
first girl i fucked i came inside multiple times before even thinking if she uses any contraceptives
>>82895230
yeah, the last one was very high maintenance
i can live with it though

>>82892741
I'd honestly prefer a relationship as well but I've been burned so many times. I know it would kill me if I found out a girl I was dating as fucking some Chad while in the talking stage with me. It's more common than you think. Either you can be the Chad doing that, or you're the poor fag who gets his heart shattered.

>>82894636
I'm not the OP, but someone in need of advice. I have little else keeping me going but...some sort of yearning and longing for love and companionship, something squarely in the hands of a woman.
What do you suggest I do? I'm fortunate enough to love writing, and have stories that I work on that give my life meaning. But is that really a life worth living? Where I cannot fully share my heart with a woman without this fear that you describe? What's left but that?

>>82895262
>Hey ****! I felt like it was a great date, I had a lot of fun with you and wish to do it again with you soon. You are attractive, funny and your thoughtful personality is really encouraging.

you might have to explain the last bit

>>82895410
>>Hey ****! I felt like it was a great date, I had a lot of fun with you and wish to do it again soon. You are attractive, funny and your thoughtful personality is really encouraging

Sorry fucked up by using with you twice and I don't like it, fixed

>>82895417
Wait until you are out doing something and send a pic with it of what you are doing like a happy selfie at a bar with someone.

She has the wrong priority if she's putting some of the girls over the person that In the long run would be the partner.

It's on her.

>>82895410
going to mod it a bit
>Hey ****! I had a lot of fun with you and I really wish to see you again. You are very pretty and funny; and the way you care about others is admirable. It was the best date I've ever had. If you don't feel the same just tell me and I will stop bothering you. If so I'd appreciate some feedback. Regards, *****
thanks for helping
>>82895435
that's an idea but not this time
i'll do it now or never

one positive sign is that she hasn't unmatched me on tinder yet
previous times i've been ghosted they've done that right away

>>82895641
Dude, if you're the OP..let go of her. She's probably already fucked a guy. Are you seriously okay with that? Dating her after she spread her legs for someone else?

>>82895342
idk if it bothers me that much that someone else has fucked her as long as from the point we start going steady it all belongs to me
in the past i thought this would bother me a lot but when it was the case i was surprised by my own stoicism
also related is the size of the past partners, my ex tried to bully me that someone she had a ons with was a lot bigger but i couldn't really care much about it

>>82895668
it's been two days since the date, she could have or she could not
it doesn't really matter
i'd take her even if she had
see post i wrote before reading yours >>82895698

>>82895668
and yeah i am the op, i try to be active in my own threads
i hate it when i reply to a thread sincerely and op is nowhere to be seen

>>82895705
I just read it, and I think it's a serious problem. I'd have a serious issue in general with it. Maybe I'm shooting myself in the foot, but I would take your experience (if I had it) as a sign that she didn't really desire me physically. Anything I would then have with her, is basically me buying the relationship with emotional comfort, and the fact remains there is no spark of genuine desire or passion at the basis of it.
It's better to be alone than be settled for. Believe me, if what I describe is true, and you don't measure up to exes...well...she will eventually resent you and the relationship. Enjoy your dead bedroom is all I can say.

>>82895729
>Maybe I'm shooting myself in the foot
i think so
of course i would prefer a pure virgin maiden but they just don't exist
every woman has fucked multiple guys already and you should just accept it
we've only gone on one date so i can't really expect her to be committed to one person yet
>and you don't measure up to exes
it was maybe even a bit funny when my ex tried to bully with it since my dick would sometimes be enough to make her hurt
it feels like we're talking past each other a bit (i don't really get what you're trying to say) but it's fine

>>82895417
final chance to make suggestions before i send >>82895475 at half past

>>82895787
It's not about being a pure virgin maiden. I honestly don't want that. I'm extremely sexual and passionate and love getting my partners off. That's not the issue. The issue is wanting to be desired EQUALLY. I need her to want me as badly as I want her.

To see intimacy in the same way. Let me describe it to you: I fell in love once, and was overcome with the desire to want to get my partner off. To bring her to the heights of pleasure with my hands, my mouth, my cock. It subsumed my entire being and cast my heart aflame. Just thinking about her would make me hard. I NEED that same desire back from a woman.

That's what is so fucking rare for most men; most men seem to just accept a girl who tolerates him and has starfish sex with him once a week. It's also why I take issue with what you said. Perhaps I'm a lot more sexually driven in general, but I could not tolerate being a consolation prize, or having to "buy" a relationship with the emotional comfort my company brings. There has to be something primal as what I described above there in how she feels about me. If it isn't there, I'd rather be alone and just fuck escorts or do casual shit, and never ever share my heart with someone.

>>82895720
You're based. And he's right, your best way to go here on out is to start working on the next skank. Work on yourself, too, and maybe one day this girl will hit you up.
Remember, unless you're teenagers and you're both virgins and madly in love... a woman is just 1 in a 1000. Totally interchangeable.

>>82895831
oh, i don't think it's possible to have that kind of equal desire
in my experience i'll be more passionate in the start and the girl will grow into it and surpass me
i think we accept it because it's only thing on the table
even when my ex and I were having hard time we fucked at least once a day, usually twice and sometimes thrice
i'll rather love and have my heart broken than not share it
>>82895833
checked
but what makes her different is that she already knows (about) me and those 999 others don't and probably won't even look at me
if only one in 10k women likes you then her being interchangeable in every other way doesn't really matter
i can't change to a woman that doesn't like me even enough to see me the first time

>>82895830
ok i sent it
thanks a lot anon who helped me draft the message
at least i won't have to regret not trying
in the long run that would have felt so much worse
this does bring to mind all the other times i pussied out and didn't approach or try to pursue, fuck i'm stupid and weak

i'll try to keep the thread alive until i get a reply and if it dies and i do get a reply i'll make a new one
so bump

>>82895893
Actually what you described is fine. Maybe I'm just burned out by my ex having a low libido and the sheer asymmetry of desire. I feel broken. No sure if I can recover, honestly. Maybe getting a lot of passionate sex for once in my life would fix it...

>>82896332
relationship with a low libido woman does sound painful
i hope you find someone who'll drains you dry and still keeps on going

>girl didn't reply
>what could this possibly mean??? help me anon
we all know what this is, why encourage the poor robot?

>>82896365
I hope so. I would go out of my way to make her feel good, and be beyond grateful

ok good night anons and thank you for helping me with this
this thread will probably die while i sleep, i wish i could too

>>82892215

wow this is dating? this sounds so shit like job hunting. im glad i havnt bothered for the past 11 years. What a waste of time hahah

>>82895230
The best reply is this one here

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>>82892215
>text her again
no
>call her
double no
>try innocent message on tinder like >did my sms get through?
no
>give her some more time
yes
>give up and take the L
same course of action as above, so you might as well stick with 4 until 5.

If nothing in 72 hours then send one final assertive make or break to the tune of "want to keep talking or should we call it there?"
from there the ball is in her court, if she never responds she never responds, cut your losses and move on.

good morning anons
>>82897639
yeah, this is it
most of the time it's soul crushing agony over not knowing what the other thinks but rest of the time it's pretty fun
i made a comparison to job hunting as well in one post
>>82898291
too late, already did it

>>82892215
man all females have boobs and they know you're looking you're suppose to pretend to look them in the eye while you're doing it.
I'm not sure what your question is but you don't have boobs so I'm not really paying attention to that.

>>82897639
>this sounds so shit like job hunting
Relationships are serious business, it makes sense that a first date would be like a job interview. Men who get mad at dates being like job interviews tend to be entitled losers with an unrealistic ideal of romance

>>82892679
>You have no idea clearly
Neither do you, and neither does she. That is the whole problem with modern dating and apps, women are literally too stupid to understand the math.
They all think whichever one they pick will pick them back even as they're ghosting dozens of guys. Subconsciously they know it doesn't make sense so they don't push the issue. Eventually they act surprised to learn a guy dating 10 women at once can't be monogamous with all of them.

>>82893982
>innocent
holy shit your reading comprehension

>>82899471
i'm aware that they can see where men look
she specifically dressed like that on the date, didn't see reason to try to hide it
>>82899479
i agree with you that they should be like job interviews since the stakes are high
but like with job interviews it would help a lot to get the answer soon
i applied to a position recently, had a coworker who knows the ciso contact him and recommend me
the application period ended around 4 weeks ago and still not even a copy paste answer
i expected this org to be slow but not this slow
>>82899497
we need an app that takes the choice away from women
i've been thinking of making an app where people (probably women) could sign up to be match makers and only they would see the profiles
then they'd just set up blind dates for matching people
i know many women would do it basically full time for free

>>82892215
sauce on this chick?

>>82899479
>Men who get mad at dates being like job interviews tend to be entitled losers with an unrealistic ideal of romance
An unrealistic view of romance such as wanting to be liked for who you are rather than what you can provide...

>>82899720
i just did a google search and picked someone random reddit post
the post id is in the filename

>>82899544
matchmaking services already exist even if they're less technology-intensive than what you're proposing. often what happens when they're realistic is the female clients don't like a dose of reality and rage quit the service.

>>82899782
its lost forever

>>82899880
they should be free and everyone should be on them
>>82899900
at least you can see her other posts by on her user

>>82899900
forgot to check these

Anon, you're way overanalyzing things. You didn't do anything wrong. There is nothing you could have said or done differently that would have changed the outcome. Always remember the bottom line:

If a girl likes you, it will not matter what you do or say. She will make herself available.

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>>82892215
>It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. That is not a weakness; that is LIFE.
Move on, anon. She was into you, but you've been filtered by her friends, sounds like. If there was an option to go inside, you should have taken it. Also, there was no kiss. But congratulations anyway. It's far better than I could have done, as an autist NEET who hates dates.

>>82892215
>so where did I fuck up?
Here:
>hug and tell her good night
>she goes inside
>walk home
So she doesn't bail, there is clear sexual tension, date lasts 5 hours, you both have fun, then you simply dismiss her and fuck off?
And to top it off you text her "thanking her for the night", my god
I swear am NOT being ironic, this is eunuch tier behavior
The thoughts of you rejecting her or being too much of a beta simp definitely went though her head, should at the very least gone in for a kiss
Don't mind the days-long response gap too much, it doesn't mean it is over but now you practically have to start from zero and build all that fun and sexual tension again
Rethink your gentleman 10-date escalation policies of 1970 because it doesn't match 99.9% women now, I'm serious