Women put hours everyday into doing their makeup and choosing their clothes, but moids are too lazy to put on some nicely fitted ironed clothes
>>82897779>nicely fitted...but I'm 300 pounds
>>82897779Suit and tie look dumb. I have nice clothes, but nowhere to go in them.
>>82897779>...Anonymous>Why don't moids dress to impre(Don't need to>Personalitymaxxed
>>82897779I'm not attractive so it would look like I'm overcompensating. I dress bland because I am bland.
>>82897779because she'll literally go after blue collar bigger drug dealers, nona
I thought about getting a nice fitted suit made. Some pieces that can be interchangeable. But I want to wait until I lose this stubborn 20 lbs and gain a bit more muscle. I do take care of myself. I dress decently, wear nice form fitting shirts that accentuate my chest. I shower daily, moisturize, get a trim to my beard and hair every three weeks or month or so. Speak for yourself.
>>82897786related>>82897817suit and tie has been standard outfit for over 100 years, you don't need to wear a tie, you can wear a fitted shirt and pants or fitted pants + clean t-shirt/sweateranything is better than the slop most men wear today
>>82897779expensive, uncomfortable and hard to maintain
Clothes are as good as the body you drape them on. Chad can wear flip flips, cargo shorts and a tee shirt.
>>82897900Go to a club, mall, bar or any public outing in a suit and tie and see how well you fit in. You'll stick out really badly. People don't wear suits to non-formal events.
>>82897779no shot you're saying this, have you ever been outside? women dress like shit nowadays, what the fuck are you talking about
>>82897900I'm about as fat as him and exclusively wear polos and dark cargo pants on work days, or bowling shirts on weekend outings
will you give me a blowjob if i wear a suit? no. no point
I do put thoughts into my outfits sometimes. But, I don't have anyone to show off to.
>>82897779Because most men aren't concerned with the pointless bullshit women are concerned with, such as clothing. It's one of the most pointless and retarded wastes of money ever, like everything else women are interested in
Men's fashion is extremely boring. I'm not a tranny but women have so many options to look pretty and I'm jealous.
>>82898337Wearing a nice outfit you like and cologne is fun when you have somewhere to go
>>82897779That guys suit is way too tight and is definitely made from synthetic materials by the way it's stretching.Dressing well isn't hard but that's definitely not the way to do it.
>>82897779>try dressing in a style i like>normies bully me for it>never dress distinctively again
>>82898417I mean I haven't done it or even tried but I imagine this would be the outcome
>>82898417>>82898433What do you guys want to dress like?
>>82897900Where can i get that shirt, as a non fatass.
>>82898455highschool anime girl
>>82897779Would if my landlord didn't regularly ransack the laundry room and ruin my clothes.
>>82897779Females don't need to do any of that shit. Females choose to do that shit to compete for chads. Females should stop being such shallow pigs and should settle for undesirable incels who make no effort. Females don't need to adhere to gender roles and beauty standards anymore, so us incels shouldn't need to either. You can get the fuck over yourself and stop being so picky. You deserve so much less than what you want.
Generally it is not socially acceptable for men to wear makeup. Additionally, my brain is powerful enough I don't need hours each day to select and coordinate the three to five items I wear each day.
>>82897779are you american? american men dress like children. fathers wear larger sizes of their toddler sons clothes.
>>82897779>Women put hours everyday into doing their makeup and choosing their clothesand not a single man gives a shit about any of that you deluded dyke. if anything your awful clothes and makeup make you less attractive
>>82898351>Men's fashion is extremely boringThere are so many fabric choices though. Men's shoes also have better range than women's imo.
>>82897779this shit is what closet case conservative men want other men to wear you clown
i hate when my gf wears lipstick cause i cant kiss without messing it up
>>82897779Every day, I wear a well fitted suit under an armoured winter jacket.
>>82899748Unlike women, men have real jobs. You're either wearing white collar or blue color stuff. You might as well criticize men for not using name brand tampons, this fashion bullshit is ridiculous and doesn't apply to any men ever. Only a retard would wear Versace when turning wrenches. Wearing a tuxedo would have a man laughed out of the boardroom. Prancing around in Prada heels would not be appropriate on a ranch and you can't carry a coach bag with you on an oil rig. Men's clothing is extremely restricted and prescriptive. Generally the most discretion ever afforded is a choice between black shoes or brown.
>>82899792NTA but what? I don't know about blue collar but in the office at least you can upgrade your polos or button downs to better fitting ones made of better fabric and cut in a more flattering way, you can get higher quality chinos, nicer shoes. I see people wearing shitting 30 dollar plastic oxfords when they could be wearing real handwelted shoes. It's sad.
>>82899792no one said to wear versace while turning wrenches or a tuxedo to the boardroom. i said american men dress like children. men should learn how to present themselves better and stop wearing gym shorts and graphic tshirts in public.
>>82899792>versace >tuxedo>pradayour idea of dressing better is very third world
this is actually very based and everyone should but if you look at americans you'll realize the subhuman fashion, hillbilly fashion.
it is impressive how yuropoors turn every thread into a circlejerk about their america obsession
>>82897779Because women don't care, they only care about men's bones. What you wear doesn't make a difference regarding your sexual success if you're a man.
>>82899853>stop wearing gym shorts and graphic tshirts in publicthe only time I'm in public is when I'm going to the gym or going home from the gym
>>82897779I do this. My uncle gave me one of his suits which I got fitted and now I wear it purely to meme on my date when she comes over. Pull out great-grandmas crystal glasses and french glass bottles to serve monster and orange pop with too.
>>82897779I do that but I'm still an incel.
>>82899865i am american just go outside and observe you'll realize the type of madness going on.
>>82899923congrats youre one of the few american males who doesnt wear you tshirts and gym shorts in inappropriate places
>>82897779Most options available to men are shit and the good ones are expensive. Clothes I mean, not women. Properly fitted stuff needs to be tailored too. Women have a lot more less expensive options. And half of them still choose yoga pants.That video is also the easiest way for a man to dress up and out of place in 90% of situations. Dressing down while still looking nice is a lot harder.
>>82898389>somewhere to gogtfo normie>men wearing fragrancego back to the middle east
>>82897779Why should I dress up for the benefit of women who'll hate me anyways?
>>82899803>>Men's clothing is extremely restricted and prescriptive>in the office at least you can upgrade your polos and chinosNigga you just proved that anon's point
>>82899853>stop wearing gym shorts and graphic tshirts in publicThat's like maybe 20% of men though
>>82900011In the office you can wear a wide range of button downs, polos, jackets, etc. Chinos and slacks come in a variety of different cuts and styles too. Most of the variety in men's office fashion is in the shoes though. Outside of the office you have even more variety in everything though. The only reason women have more shit they can wear is because they can wear men's clothing without it being weird.
>>82900051You're describing your dad's office though, nobody actually dresses like mad men anymore to go to work.>The only reason women have more shit they can wear is because they can wear men's clothing without it being weird.Nigger what, have you never been to a department store? Men get half a floor out of 3. If women didn't wear men's clothing (and they almost never do, masculine look does not mean mens clothing and most of it would fit women very poorly) they'd still have 4x as much floor space at the mall devoted to them.>be man>go to banana republic or whatever the fuck>here is this season's shirt, in this season's two colors>the better color is picked over, only XL left>go to 3 more stores, see clones of the each other's lines
Men Should all wear capes
>>82900090>You're describing your dad's office thoughI'm describing how I dress at the office. Everything I mentioned is business casual. Madmen era people were wearing suits to the office.>have you never been to a department store?No because I like to wear high quality clothes instead of expensive designer shit>they almost never doThey wear female cuts of male clothing not actual off the rack men's clothes
>>82900110>suits aren't business casualFine, a lot of offices aren't even business casual. So yours is. Common non-dress male fashion now is something like a nice tshirt and blazer. That's very hard to pull off because the selection is so dismal and so much stuff is so poorly made.I also think polos are not usually a good look. Full button down is a lot better.>I like to wear high quality clothesFrom where?>They wear female cuts of male clothing not actual off the rack men's clothesAnd you can remove that stuff from the selection and it's still 3x the size of men's selection instead of 4x.
>>82897779Yeesh, monochrome is the sign of an amateur.And yes many of us still dress nicely.
>>82900158>non-dress male fashion now is something like a nice tshirt and blazerI hate blazers for casual fashion it looks so goofy to me>I also think polos are not usually a good lookPolos look best on muscular people, it's a very flattering article of clothing. You need to get nice ones though, Sunspel is pretty good there. >Full button down is a lot betterWith the sleeves rolled up they look great but it's less casual than a polo would be>From where?J press, Casatlantic, Real McCoys, Incotex, The Armoury, if you're on the fatter side Brooks Brothers, for more outdoorsy stuff Orvis and Barbour. Shoes I like Carmina, old Allen Edmonds, Red Wings, Saint Crispin, Enzo Bonafe, Quoddy, Rancourt. T shirts I just do J Crew or Uniqlo lol>3x the size of men's selection instead of 4xWomen shop at department stores more. There's no shortage of men's clothing online.
>>82897779Have you ever heard of phrases like "a polished turd" or "a pig with lipstick" or "a bag of shit in a million dollar suit" OP? When you are physically unattractive and "put effort in," that is what people think. CHAD on the other hand can wear sweatpants and still pull.
>>82900229I have not heard of or seen the vast majority of those but I'm not in New England. Uniqlo shirts never fit right, Asians like their shit roomy.>There's no shortage of men's clothing online.That sounds like a PITA, ordering a bunch of stuff you can't try on and returning 4 out of 5 because the fit is wrong.
>>82897779There's literally no reason to try. Women don't seem to realize you're literally all the same. A slightly uglier girl is not any easier to get than a prettier. Once you understand this, guys just give up putting in effort. Any effort is immediately degrading to yourself
>>82897779I do actually wear makeup and nice clothes >b-but doesn't makeup make you look gay??not if it's natural looking, well evened out and you've moisturised your face to death so that there's no cakeyness whatsoever
>>82899792>>82899853Wrench anon here, I have a tripcode now, leave me out of this. My armoured jacket exists because people have taken knives to me. Your petty college nonsense is between you.
>>82897779people iron their clothes? Fucking I thought that wasn't the dirty laundry pile.
>>82900093fuckin why not. Half a cape and some oil resistent stuff. You can probably fall asleep anywhere.
>>82900340You can do it without a cape too, but it'd be a bit more comfortable if you could wear a cape with some kinda snap features like one piece, or I'm not sure how you talk to a tailor about this.
>>82900358you're able to fix this? I aint asking for a cool feather like cloak here.
>>82900375You know what that tailor aint never done me wrong before I should just ask her if she wants to do that.
>>82900394I mean maybe I'm hung over walking through that parking lot but god damn I've never seen such a big rat before. That thing is fucking supersized. you're in a car and nearer to it don't mind me.r
>>82897779because I live in a country town in Australia and if I dressed like that I would be looked at like an idiot
>>82897779Because it doesn't matter. Chad is hot whether he's wearing a suit or hobo rags. Quasimodo will die a khhv even if he's wearing an expensive suit.
>>82897779>dress up for meno
>>82897779Suits look gay, only seen reviewbrah be able to pull it off. What I like you will just say "put more effort into it". Well no. I won't change my tastes to make you feel good. Close your eyes if you walk by me.
>>82899792I'd add that every workplace I've ever been in has enforced dress codes on the men but not on the women, even when such codes exist.
>>82899853Most men dont have anywhere to go aside from work, gym, and grocery stores. The last time I worse something nice was when I went to a casino with some work friends several months ago. I prefer stylish street clothes over tacky suits
because it's tryhard. I don't care how women look or do their makeup, in fact I prefer no makeup and casual comfy clothes over heels and fake nails and all that dogshit.my first gf the best girl that ever existed didn't care how I looked or how I dressed and if foids can't even clear that bar they're not worth my time
>why don't you try harder so we can still reject and humiliate you for trying?Lol. Lmao even.
>>82897779Clothes cost money that I don't have so I've just been wearing the same t-shirts and sweatpants for going on 5 years nowI get new clothes once or twice a decade
>>82897779Because I have no sense for that kind of thing, so if I tried I'd just end up looking like a fedora tipping neckbeard.
>>82899792Funny that you say that while being glued to your smart calculator, meanwhile men from countries where physical jobs are still relevant dress as flashily as they can
>>82897779Because the group of brocili hair freaks all wearing the same name brand tshirt and shorts make women's pussy tingle so why should I bother?
>>82898455Like a street hustler from Blade Runner.
>>82897779How do I find a woman who doesn't give a shit about stuff like fashion or room decor? Like it's fine to ask me to put on something nice for her if she just wants to appreciate the aesthetics a bit, but give me a woman whose default state is just lounging around the house in sweatpants and a t-shirt and I'm happy. No pomp, no pretense, just chilling the fuck out.
>>82902492Most women are already like that. Its much easier convince a girl to stay inside and binge watch her favorite shows with you after a couple dates.
>>82899936you aint bad looking brudda you'll find a girl and it aint even gonna be hard
>>82902740Ugh I wish, indoorsy nerd gf who hates socializing is what I long for.
>>82902743Don't. Modern woman are a fucking headache and flat out annoying, always playing stupid little mindgames, they can just ghost you out of nowhere when their bored of you. For your hapiness, stay clear, its not worth it.
>>82897779Womens clothing is to signify their status as a sex object which is why they have so much variety, men only have suits because it's to signify them as a success object/worker which is why women care about it.
>>82897779>Realise in my early 20s that I'm never going to approach a woman.>Realise in my mid 20s that I don't look good enough for women to obviously approach me.>Stop giving a shit about dressing well. As long as I don't stink, that's good enough for me.There is no point in dressing well/fancy if you're a schizoid introvert who wants to be invisible anyway. As long as I don't stink and my clothes aren't stained, that's good enough for me. I've noticed oldfags at my workplace fail to even do those basic things.
>>82902792Have you ever thought about getting in shape and improving your looks?
>>82897779You set the conditions, not us.
>>82902806I am in shape. I'm 6'2'' and slim/fit. It doesn't matter because my personality is too quiet and I prefer solitude too much. I am volcel and my standards are too high.
>>82899936Dude yu look like every genshin addicted asian girls BF how tf do you not have an asian girl i wish i looked like you but instead im kinda like you but half white.Are you enrolled in community college? If you are and theres no chicks at your campus go to another campus within your community college's network and exist as if youre bored and exploring.
>>82897779>fittedGet off the internet, your brain is fried.As for your question, see attached picture.
>>82900290I dress mostly ivy/prep style and those are all fairly well known within that; I'm not in New England either. Uniqlo fits me pretty well but only their t-shirts. I workout a lot so roomier fits my chest and arms better.>ordering a bunch of stuff you can't try on and returning 4 out of 5 because the fit is wrongI've never had this problem. I know my measurements and I look at reviews to see how true to size things fit. I order everything online, even shoes, and I've only had issues with sizing two or three times.
I never developed a sense of style, just used whatever used clothes my parents would get me
due to being muscular id have to get custom made suits, I do however look extremely sexy in a standard button down shirt tucked into my pants with the sleeves rolled up, however, I refuse to wear that every day, only for occasions. Most of the times its levi's and plain t shirts, sweaters and fleeces when its colder.
>>82897779you could not PAY me enough to put on a suit. fucking corsets for men with how uncomfortable they are. t-shirt and sweatpants. take it or leave it. >but muh makeupmen dont need makeup to look handsome, and even if we did thats what beards are for
>>82902205No they don't, those are such a small minority there is literally a documentary on them. Men's fashion only exists for college students and rich people without jobs. Otherwise you're wearing your work uniform or cheap comfy clothes 90% of the time
>>82903786A well fitted suit shouldn't be uncomfortable
>>82897779No one but other foids and homo men give a fuck about your matching color grade progression
>>82903808you're gonna tell me a button up shirt and suit botttoms beats t-shirt and sweats? cause it dont. i'm out here comfymaxxing. not like im getting pussy either way
>>82903822You said suits were too uncomfortable to wear, I was arguing against that. I don't think you should be lounging around the house in a suit, but if you put one on and it feels bad to wear it's not fitted right. Most people need to get their suit altered to have it fit properly. If you just buy off the rack and take it home it's going to feel bad and look bad.
>>82903808It's always uncomfortable no matter what. It's stiff. If I can't lift my foot past my waist, comfortable break out into a full sprint, do pull ups or even lift my arms It's not comfortable. Don't even get me started on dress shoes. Just standing in those for 5 hours gave me back pain for a day. Humans aren't meant to wear heels.Unrelated note but does anyone think high heels on women is unattractive?
>>82903851Heels are good for calves, ass, and access.You love it
>>82903851>If I can't lift my foot past my waist, comfortable break out into a full sprint, do pull ups or even lift my arms It's not comfortableI can do all these things in a suit. Your suit is not fitted right.>Just standing in those for 5 hours gave me back pain for a day. Humans aren't meant to wear heelsI've regularly stood for 8+ hours in dress shoes and had no pain. My most comfortable shoes are my dress shoes. I don't understand what's happening with you. Where do you get your shoes from?>high heelsInstant arousal. I love heels. I would fuck a pair of heels if I could.
>>82897779because nobody cares if you can't back it up with anything. Men wear uniforms Women wear outfits.
>>82897779>Women put hours everyday into doing their makeup and choosing their clothesI didn't ask them to do that
>>82903892Normies buy some Walmart tier dress shoes/polyester suit and think all nice clothes/shoes are uncomfortable.
>>82897779No woman will ever be "impressed" by me, no matter what I wear. It's a huge waste of time, energy, and money for exactly zero return on investment.
>>82904382Yeah and when you suggest a nice pair of shoes they make fun of you for suggesting spending 200+ dollars on a pair of shoes. Just can't win.
>>82904430I get that a lot. I wear Italian made calfskin loafers most of the time and its irritating to repeatedly hear "anon those look so nice but they must be uncomfortable!"What's funny is many of my loafers are over 10 years old now. And normies have no problem paying $200 a year for some ugly glued sole sneaker they will toss after 6 months.
>>82897779Im kinda ugly so jeans, t shirt, and hiking boots for me, the perfect background outfit to disappear
>>82904486For sure. I have a pair of CXL derbies from Allen Edmonds (from before they changed their production lines) and while they're not dress shoes, normies all think they are. Super comfortable shoe and I can easily walk in them all day long. They're over 10 years old now and still just as nice looking as the day I got them. The only shoes I've ever had problems with were cheap plasticized leather ones and work boots (the break in process is brutal). The most comfy shoe I own is a pair of handsewn mocs though, sneakers got nothing on those.
I've been wanting to get into dressing nicer.Idk what to really do other than try shit and see what works. So for now I wanna dress like lupin the III with colorful blazers
>>82902908There are not many Asian girls in my country, and the few that are, are only into Whites.I am a Hapa too, though I work full time instead of attending school. I realize that college is really the only option left, but I'm stuck in the wagecage.>>82902743I've always been rejected, throughout my whole life.
>>82897779It takes women that long to pick out thot pants and a hoodie?
>>82897779I started hating good clothes when I realized opening my mouth made people change their tune real fucking fast. I can't dress my mouth well.
>>82897779The rebuttal to fashion is, unironically, just by looking around youHow are you expressing your personality or your taste in style or whatever when you're stepping out of a shitbox elantra in front of a strip mall and an obese black woman is hurriedly jaywalking with her kids in the background?
