>befriend cute girl from work >hang out at her place as friends >realize she has a habit of making guys her gay besties >gut tells me she behaves like this with guys she friendzones >intentionally start flirting more and sit next to her on the couch >start playfully caressing her hair and neck, telling her she's pretty >she warns me not to get any ideas even tho setting might look intimate >immediately ask her if I stop because I don't want to freak her out like a creep >she says "no, go on anon it feels kinda good" which confuses the fuck out of me >keep laying in her lap caressing her as she keeps verbally rejecting me the whole time >next thing I know she puts her hand on my chest and rubs my pec so I hold her hand too >did I seduce her or did she gave in because she didn't want to create an awkward moment
>>82900527>it feels kinda goodshe was into it and u acted like a pussy. if you try again it probably wont escalate this far again
>>82900527That was rape, chud
>>82900527>>keep laying in her lapWait what how the fuck did you end up laying in her lapAnyway you 100% seduced her. Just reading this gave me a boner the sexual tension was off the charts
>>82900541What should OP have done to escalate things further
>>82900944Unzip dick
>>82900955Anyone with the courage to do that would have ended up in prison years ago tbdesu
>>82900527i've been there. the mixed signal shit is very hard to navigate but it sounds like you handled it well.women will randomly change their minds about sex, even if they're very adamant about no sex. but they can also randomly want to stop stuff like that. its good to constantly check in and give women an "out" so you don't get allegations
>>82900964>>82900955>He took it out Jerry
>>82900970why do they do this? Incels make it look like so black and white. "If she were attracted she'd be touchy" but then you have situaitons like OP's where the chick is verbally saying "No" but her behavior doesn't say "ew get away from me" and is rather receptive - especially for a platonic hangout, the escalation is crazy.
Should've moved in for a kiss you had it. Hand behind her back looking at her lips then close eyes and move in
>>82901186anon this is exactly the issue, most incels are autists and can't really handle these sorts of situations with womennothin women ever say or do is black and white they just do not operate like that, but i guess even that is black and white thinking haha
>>82900527>>82900970>>82901186women get horny too, even if they have strong morals or a firm stance against the idea of casual sex (or whatever else is going on)basically think of it like them experiencing intermittent post-nut clarity that hits hard but also seemingly randomly and despite being the "more in tune with their emotions" gender they genuinely don't understand this and don't know how to express this so they blame youwomen are mentally and emotionally childrenhave I helped you understand?
>>82900941>arrive at her place to pick her up for a party>the implication was a hangout not a date>she was sleepy when I came and just laid on the couch, >she wanted to make us coffee, but I volunteered. >during this I sit close to her and look her in the eyes >she warns me " "i know me inviting you to my apartment might look intimate,but don't get ideas">I stand up andget the coffee and sit on the chair opposite of the couch she laid on>then she says "no, anon, come on you can sit beside me on the couch">she starts showing me pics of her cat so I lean in to get a good look>she sits in a yoga position so I turn around and lay my head in her lap>she says "list I don't wanna get involved with a coworker">I pause caressing her and ask "you don't like this, do I stop?" >"no, go on it feels kinda good" and adjusts the pillow under my head
>>82901215wow your foid is very assertive
>>82901215see>>82901205her higher brain function is saying "doing this with a coworker is wrong I must stop" but her horny ape brain is saying "LOVE ME LOVE ME PLEASE I'M BEGGING YOU DO ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ME I CAN'T TAKE IT ANY MORE AHHHHH"Taking advantage of someone's horniness is rude and you can't blame her because she has the emotional maturity and intelligence of a child
>>82901215I'd say you seduced her even though she didn't want to get this way. She is attracted, but probably emotionally unavalible. I can't imagine allowing a guy friend behaving like this. It would feel like betrayal unless I secretly liked him "that way", t. girl
>>82901186they say female sexuality is reactive so there is no way of knowing what they want or how they will respond until you are already start doing it to them.
>>82900527yes she was being nice. Women are raised to please. She didn't want to offend her platonic guy friendo by rejecting him outright and making things awkward so she tolerated ti with clenched teeth and fear only because she valued you as a person and friend while you were lusting after her body. Women are too kind.
>>82902064tell us how do we get to what OP was doing without you crying rape?
>>82904110be attractive and not autistic lol
>>82904110she needs to find you baseline attractive, then your personality might factor in.
>>82901215>>arrive at her place to pick her up for a party>>the implication was a hangout not a datedamn i am so autistic i have never been this close to anyone let alone a girl
>>82904782there is still a whole minefield to walk when you get to this point. You will never know where exactly you are at with women. Her laughing at your jokes, open and warm behavior could still mean she just sees you as a harmless goofball who she unironically likes platonically, as a person, but it doesn't mean shit in terms of attraction. And even if she finds you physically attractive she could reject sex for all sorts of things: coworkers, not over her ex, baggage, or you making one fauxpass that gives her the ick. Being able to talk to women is merely the first step on a long agonizing path to potentially getting one of them to sleep with you.
>>82905259i unironically have some insane third eye for knowing when women are into me. i can not explain how or why it works but it has never been wrong so far
