>Be me>See everyone on here talk about how only the top 20% of men get matches on dating apps>Decide to try it out for myself>Already got a date next weekI'm convinced you guys are putting absolutely zero effort into your profiles to be getting no matches. You can't just put 6 mirror selfies and 2 word prompts and expect matches. Do you even want to find someone?
>>82933629You're probably in a very, very small town. Even my chadlite friend has to pay for hinge X to get anything. The game's just rigged
>>82933629I probably can get matches but I don't know where to go from there. I don't know how to hold a conversation, transition it to a date and actually go on a date.
>>82933645I'm in one of the biggest cities in my country
>>82933675>I don't know how to hold a conversation, transition it to a date and actually go on a date.All of that is quite straight forward actually. What makes things difficult is how fickle women are. You could be chatting to a woman and think everything is going great and then all of sudden she just ghosts you. Women are juggling 10+ different guys at any given time. That's the reality of it and there's absolutely nothing you can do about it
>>82933675Why would holding a conversation with a woman be any different than holding a conversation with any of your male friends?
>>82933716What an awesome way to absolve yourself of any responsibility, if you're consistently getting ghosted then reflect on why that might be happening?
>>82933675Propanolol before any dateAbsolutely mandatory
>>82933721my male friends like the things I'm interested in, plus they're ok with me being a huge awkward mess. Women give me anxiety and generally don't like things I'm interested in, plus they're less forgiving when your super awkward in my experience.
>>82933734You're kind of an idiot, aren't you? You could be doing absolutely nothing wrong and still end up getting ghosted. That's what's so fucked up about dating in today's age. Unlimited options for women means you literally have to be top 1% or hope she's feeling generous in the moment. It's like the equally fucked job market that we're currently in
>>82933757Are you not trying to find women with similar interests to you? Why not meet women in the spaces of your hobbies so said hobby is your springboard for conversations.If you have low confidence you might fumble a few times before you find your feed and yeah it will feel uncomfortable but it's better than sitting at square one.
>>82933781Again, you're just absolving yourself of any wrongdoing by blaming women - and based on that I can see why they're ghosting you lmao
>>82933860I'm not blaming women, retard. It's not women's fault that they have so many options. I'm merely pointing out that at this point unless you're some giga chad online dating is more a matter of luck than anything else. Holy shit are you stupid.
>>82933852>Are you not trying to find women with similar interests to you?They don't really exist, my interests and career are very male dominated. I'm also not a very social person to begin with. I don't really enjoy going out.
>>82933890If you're happy being a permavirgin then that's absolutely fine but I'd put my life savings on the fact that you got ghosted due to your abhorrent personality (:
>>82933895Maybe it's time to broaden your horizons a bit? Maybe try out some new hobbies/sports that are less male dominated?
>>82933902I'm not even a virgin lol. What part of 'online dating is actually kind of a shit show' do you not understand? I'm going assume you're trolling because nobody can be this stupid
>>82933629>zero effort70% probability of op being female
>>82933917Ragebait used to be believable, try harder next time <3
Ive been on bumble for a year and I get basically no matches, the rare time I do its either a woman who is way below my looksmatch or an actual trannyis hinge easier?
>>82933924Nah I'm a dude, but I'm also friends with women so I've seen the profiles they get shown and the average dude on dating apps has a fucking awful profile.You've gotta have pictures/prompts that show off your strong suits and tell a lot about yourself. Most dudes just have 6 shit mirror selfies in awful lighting and their prompts are just 3 one-liners.
>>82933926><3Tranny and a retard. Quite the combo
>>82933926Not anon but I love dominant women such as yourself who aren't afraid to put men in their place.
>>82933936I tried bumble but all of the matches on there were super low quality. I would assume it depends on your area and age demographic but I find most of the hot women are on Hinge or Tinder.
>>82933909OR WHAT IF WOMEN STOPPED BEING BORING AND JUDGY EVER THOUGHT OF THAT YOU FILTHY ROASTOID
>>82933909You're probably right, but it's hard to force myself to go out. I generally like to stay in, I'm a homebody. I've never liked sports so that unfortunalty tales out a lot of easy options.
>>82933985I really like rock climbing, in recent years it has become much more popular with women too. If you have any friends you can go with that would make you less anxious at first that could help. Even if you don't like sports generally there might be one sport you haven't tried that you actually enjoy.As for non-sport options you could maybe consider some sort of art classes?
>>82933985>>82933909No? >hey do XYZ, which you don't normally do, but do it so you can meet girls (:That's really not the way to go about things and won't end well.
>>82933629Post face to /soc/ and link it here. Attractive man vs unattractive man is not as severe but akin to woman vs average man.>ahhh I'm ugly/average I swearIf you were you'd get zero matches that weren't bots.>>82933675>I probably can get matchesAverage /r9k/ "in"cel.
>>82934036I'm not saying he should do those things specifically to meet women, I'm saying he should try new things and when he eventually finds one he enjoys he's more likely to meet someone there.You've got it backwards.
>>82934050Not gonna post my face here sorry, but I'd say I'm definitely average. I'm a little on the taller side but I'm also ginger and I wouldn't say I have a fantastic face or anything
>>82933629Anyone else think Hinge is the absolute worst dating app? Nothing but a bunch of 4/10 hags who unironically believe their pussies can cure cancer, who all state they're finally ready to settle down after years of finding themselves. Life is starting to imitate memes it seems.
>>82934096Either bait or you just don't understand what women find attractive (extremely common for men). Obviously if apps worked the number of normal men whining about being apps would be far, far lower.
>>82934025>If you have any friends you can go with that would make you less anxious at first that could help.It might, but I couldn't see myself continuing to go. Rock climbing just doesn't interest me.>As for non-sport options you could maybe consider some sort of art classes?I would like to learn how to draw, but I don't see why I couldn't just do that on my own at home. Also I can't stress enough how awkward of a person I am.
>>82934111That's not even the worst part. These same women all claim to want long term relationships, and mention how much they value emotional connections, but will instantly pull their knickers off for bbc on the first date. It's all so tiring
>>82934119You're so close to getting it. It's evidently extremely uncommon for dudes to know what women want based on how guys present themselves on their profiles. If they just put more effort into their profiles they'd have more matches.
>>82934111Maybe it's like that for your age range? I find that it's higher quality than Tinder and Bumble. I haven't tried any others.
>>82934155It's kinda weird that you're imagining potential hinge dates getting undressed for bbc anon. Self report?
>>82934155too true. I went on a hinge date once who told me she had just washed her hair and I say, "oh I hope you weren't trying to impress me" a silly joke like that, and she tells me "no I didn't want to smell like the guy's cum who I fucked this morning." I swear women are on a different level
>>82934050>Average /r9k/ "in"cel.Sure, I'm a mentalcel, I've had a few girls into me long ago but the hour is getting late. I'll be a full KHHV wizard in no time. End of the day I'll still end up miserable and alone with few to blame other than myself.
>>82934189>FakeAnon has never gotten that close to a woman>GayAnon is imagining another man's cum
>>82934159I know almost all men don't know how to take photos of themselves, or dress particularly nicely, etc., but there's good reason you can't find evidence of ugly/average-looking guys getting a serious number of matches on these apps. As soon as the """average""" guy posts his face pics that worked on tinder, hinge, etc. it exposes that he's a chadlite or above.>>82934203>I'll be a full KHHV wizard in no timeI bet. Most wizards I have talked to are also turbo-volcel normalfaggots. If you were actually even close to an incel, you would've killed yourself long ago.
>>82934189you definitely dodged a bullet there
>>82934111what do you mean starting? it's always been that way. the cock carousel isn't new
>>82934232Isn't part of the issue that the dudes who are deemed "chadlites" are just average dudes who figured out how to dress, groom and take photos properly? It's not like any of those three things are innate, anyone can learn how.
>>82934232>If you were actually even close to an incel, you would've killed yourself long ago.Then why haven't you nigger?
>>82933675Why are you overthinking things? If you like the person just ask them out to do something, get a drink, watch a movie, go for a walk, it doesn't matter, what matters is rapport and connection. The fact that you have no idea how to hold a conversation tells me you've never really connected with anyone in your life. You should really be asking yourself why that is
>>82934232>I know almost all men don't know how to take photos of themselvesYou'd probably commit suicide if I showed you the shitty pictures my chad friend takes for his bumble profile. It would shatter your entire world view considering you put a lot of stock in thinking taking bad photos is the differentiating factor
>>82934328>The fact that you have no idea how to hold a conversation tells me you've never really connected with anyone in your life.Pretty true when it comes to women.
>>82934280>the dudes who are deemed "chadlites" are just average dudesLol, no, not at all. The average man's central differences from a chadlite are his facial features that are dictated by his skullshape. You can cover up no jaw with a beard, sometimes, but that will never make an average guy even close to a chadlite across all the facial differences.>>82934314I never said I was an incel.>>82934387I never said chad needed good pics of himself or that an average guy taking good pics of himself would save him. OP is the one implying that lol. I distinctly remember reading a post from a guy like OP saying he got 100s of likes with bathroom selfies and I had to convince him he wasn't even close to average-looking for that to be possible, and he wouldn't believe me lol.The closer you are to being chad, the more socially retarded, mentally ill, poor, incompetent, etc. you can be without a woman caring. And vice versa, the uglier you are the more everything else matters, but mostly *not* online because online every girl has 100s of guys in her DMs.
>>82934442OP here, if you want to add me on discord I can show you my profile?
>>82933852>Are you not trying to find women with similar interests to you?I am convinced at this point that they don't exist.>>82933909Ok so which things that I'm not interested in should I force myself to partake in?
>>82934772Sure post ur dc asdas
>>82935046Oceaneatsrocks, feel free to add me and I'll show you
>>82933629What did you use for pictures? I would try dating apps but I'm a shut-in so I only have shitty selfies of myself and it seems pointless to use that
>>82935313My suggestion for pictures if you have absolutely nothing good is to go out with a friend and have them take pictures for you. Try a few outfits in various locations/lighting - remember you only need 6 for your profile.
>>82935367I don't have any friends though
>>82935376You could use a tripod or get professional shoots done? Otherwise maybe just figure out what time of day and parts of your house have the best lighting and show off some different outfits?
>>82933629Yeah well im convinced your a fucking shill for match.com or getting paid by them for the marketing. Online dating needs to be shut down and purged from the internet.
>>82935634Wish I was getting paid by match.com bro lmfao, you've just gotta play the game
>>82933629The dating apps absolutely are shallow. I think I'm a decent prospect on paper and still have to grind for dates. I buy 100% that for some men the apps are useless.
>>82933721I think the struggle is the cold opener. Talking to someone you've known for years is very easy. Trying to banter with a stranger over text feels like pulling teeth.
>>82933629I got a few dates out of apps but they were all awkward. It feels so inorganic to meet someone specifically because you met on an app. How do you force the first date conversations when you also got to know each other on the app and you already know you find each other attractive because you matched?
>>82935707My strategy is to organise a date within a few messages and save the banter or trying to get to know them for the date. You don't want to be wasting your time texting someone for a week only to meet them and realise the vibes aren't there.
i have no pics of me
>>82935742Same as my above message, I think you're falling short by trying to get to know them on the app. Literally like 3 messages after matching I'll see when they're free - they matched you because they're interested in a date there's no point in fucking around before organising it.
>>82935776You must be really good looking because most girls will ghost if you ask for a date too soon
SO WHERE'S THE FUCKING ADVICE FOR FOR GOOD PICTURES YOU RETARDED DATING APP DEFENDER FUCKS
>>82933629Bait thread to piss off lonely men
>>82935659I do play the game. And every time, I get fucked over. Almost every girl I have met has moved onto other guys and then has come back to me. But sure buddy. Have fun with your date. You will learn how silly you have been when you see how shii tea this foid treats you.
>>82935745I swear this always scares them off. D: I have gone on a lot of dates thanks to online dating and it seems the faster I try to get a date, the least likely I get one.
>>82935874Does it really matter that it pissed me off? Tons of guys out there are always pissed off about something. In the grand scheme of things a single post on 4chan does not matter. I could kill a family of four with my car tomorrow ,and guess what, the world will keep spinning.
>>82935745I agree in principle. You still need a reason for her to say yes, a good hook. A simple "Hey" generally doesn't suffice, quality women have options and in my experience you want it to be as easy for her to reply as possible
>>82935846What sucks is you need someone to take pics for you in order to have a good profile and most of my friends and family members want nothing to do with online dating. I especially hate the double date feature on Tinder because nobody I know wants to go on a Tinder date with me.
>>82935926Don't use Tinder, it's mostly whores. From one loser to another, I do 100x better on Hinge and the women are more interesting.
>>82933909You say this but then if and when men do it you'll kick them out because "urgh you just joined this to meet girls! pig!"
>>82933629I got a match but didnt know what to say so I deleted the whole app
>>82935926You don't need to ask them to take pictures of you for dating apps, just ask them to take nice pictures of you generally. Say they're for your social media or something?
>>82935846Your 1st pic needs to be a shot of your face/upper torso and it needs to be by far your best pic.The others should all be pics of you doing stuff you enjoy or on days out with good lighting. Avoid selfies or mirror pics.Your prompts should be packed with information. 1 should be about yourself, 2 should be what you're looking for in a partner and 3 should be a conversation starter.
>>82933629Reality check, first dates are like screening interviews, the woman is just vibe checking you and if you dont give her the ick she might go on a second date with you. Theyre basically meaningless, because 1 hr isnt enough time to decide whether you want to spend a big chunk of your time with that one person. Some of these women go on 2 or 3 dates a week dude. Sometimes they just want a free meal and if they have to put up with some random dude theyre not really attracted to they will do it
>>82933629Shut up about it until you actually have sex.Anything is just time wasted or you paying for their dinner.
>>82936154I never said I wasn't having sex bro
>>82936074Here you go. Finest selection of openers.
>>82935742>>82936136>I can date women but like that's not enoughLoneliest /r9k/ male.>>82936154If you can get any girl to date you, you can't be an incel. Each date is just a roll of the die, and you can steadily improve your social skills each time.
>>82936173Obviously getting sex from the online dating app, dumbass.Reminder that there is an inverse correlation between a man's IQ and female sexual attraction to that man.>>82936176isn't BAP a homosexual?
>>82936201>>I can date women but like that's not enoughYeah, single serving interactions with strangers doesn't nourish the soul believe it or not. Some of us want life partners
>>82936234How do you think anyone finds a relationship? Most dates flop, almost all relationships flop. If you can get dates then you're on track for getting a relationship.
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