Guys... HOW DO YOU ACTUALLY START LIKING WOMEN AGAIN????? I'm SO FUCKING TIRED asking and figuring myself this out. I WANT TO LIKE WOMEN AGAIN YET I CAN'T. They are the worst FUCKING PUZZLE I CANNOT SOLVE. I've seen women when they are good and they can be alright, I've seen women when they are bad and THEY ARE FVCKING EVIL at times. I just want a 2nd half and get 50% / 50% from a relationship. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT MONEY, I JUST DON'T WANT TO BE SUCKED OUT BY A PARASITE BEING. How do you PREVENT A WOMAN FROM TURNING INTO A LEECH???>just set muh boundaries>just say no>just be good enough/best man she will ever haveI KNOW ALL OF IT, I JUST CANNOT FORCE MYSELF TO PRETEND THAT IT'S GOOD THAT A CREATURE THAT EXPECT ME TO SAVE HER IS INFINITELY TESTING, SABOTAGING AND CAPABLE OF SO MUCH FVCKING EVIL>nooo I may talk about le chad and stacy's tropica trips but you just need to wash yourself>nooo it's fine you don't do X or like Y... as long as MYSELF don't start wanting it>nooo don't be mad that we put games on you that you cannot win... we appreciate that you even try ;)HOW. THE. FVCK. YOU HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITHOUT IT BEING A CONSTANT BATTLE? HOW DO YOU GO FROM "Yeah, women can be bad and good, they are just normal human beings" TO "Now I get it all and women are alright, I enjoy women and they bring me more good than bad"????? PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE I DON'T WANT TO BE SINGLE FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE
>>82947392hey anon, if you want genuine advice from someone relatively normie (and an actual foid)!!:this worldview is extremely schizo and damaging your braingo outside, force yourself into social settings with women WITHOUT the expectation of dating/sexyou will scare the hoes off unless you grow from this
>>82947422Thanks for your reply. I actively avoid any interactions with women because I know I'm simply too broken. I already have almost 0 sex drive. Some of it is "I was pussy starved", or "I didn't get good le sex". Yes it is, I don't hide that. But I cannot force myself go forward, because I don't know where/how. I cannot connect all the dots.>My mother would buy me something, like gaming magazines in 00's, and then tear them apart because I didn't do something or didn't allow her to cut things from them.My previous GF would break up with me when I failed uni the same exact day. And then try to renew contact because... Life is not exciting anymore even though she's working on PhD and I have no higher education. Because it's not about me, but her missing how she felt with me. >My coworker got shizo because some other women that work for the same company told her some shit about me even though I've been working with her earlier and I was kind and gave no reason to be schizo about meI've been interacting with lots of women during my scout days and many times women would hit me just after being rejected by le chad sometimes on my very own eyes... And after some time forgotten because new le chad appeared in the space>I would go on and onI get women aren't perfect neither men, I get le jew brainwashing, I get le hypergamy, I get all of that. I just CANNOT SWALLOW ALL OF THAT and turn into something. I'M NOT SCHIZO HATEFUL INCEL I SWEAR.
>>82947565do not listen to the foid OP. this is how you get raped
>>82947422>relatively normieYou're a tripfag on r9k lol
>>82947392Even though a woman is a "2nd half", she's a second half to something you and her make together that is greater than either of you. Remember that because you still have to be whole by yourself. If you are whole by yourself, you can keep a little emotional distance from the woman, and not get sucked into her emotional games. You can understand why women are the way they are, you don't have to deny that they are crazy, but just accept that they are and maintain your own wholeness even as you build the thing of which you are a half. It's the men who think they are incomplete without a woman who fall prey to the evil of women.
>>82947565glad to get to talk!!for the record, i don't think you're broken at all!! everyone is capable of growth so long as they're open to it and willing to work for it!! you are no different :]>I'M NOT SCHIZO HATEFUL INCEL I SWEAR.i believe you!! you're basing your perspective off your own experiences (duh) and insecurities, so it makes sense that you'd end down this road.perhaps confirmation bias exacerbates each negative experience? makes it more "yup yup as expected, fucking women!!" HOWEVER, for every schizo jackass lady you run into, there's about 10 normal ones just hanging out in the background. the "loud" ones always catch attention, as it were :p i always have much more positive experiences with women so i'm sorta stumped!! ofc i've had some really nasty run-ins, but i've had more male ones than female. if anything, i think this is sorta a good representation of how we shouldn't create predjudice on groups based on microexperiences. people are too complicated and broad to be put into categories!!!as for how to jump the hurdle... uughhmmm i'm sorta of the mindset that one should jump into the deep end. sink or swim, i guess? it's how i got really got at socializing at least!!>>82947631BESIDES THAT!!!!
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>>82947657Thanks for your reply. Then why wasting time on women if everything that makes me whole is not about women? At the same time It's not true, because you need a relationship with a woman to be healthy, at least mentally and socially. But at the same time women can drive you crazy, you cannot need them, so why even bother? Ok ok, maybe someone wants children, or sex. Why to even want to have sex with someone that can completely destroy your life? Ok, to build something greater than me. Why would I choose to build something with a woman?
>>82947778I think that question comes from a place of not feeling whole without a woman in your life. Personally, if I wasn't talking to a woman at all, I would be happy with my daily routine, working my career and cooking my own meals and engaging in my own hobbies and friendships. I feel whole. At the same time, I want to be a father and pass on the things that were passed to me and have a legacy, but I don't need it to feel like a complete person. The thing you build with a woman is only something that a man and a woman can build together, so that's why you would want to find a woman to build it with. I have a deep attraction to women and a desire to have that, but I also recognize the sacrifice involved. I can have a happy life without making that sacrifice, and if I couldn't, then I'd be vulnerable to the evils of women. Sometimes the woman I'm talking to tries to start something with me or says it's unacceptable that I have a certain attitude, and I tell her that I'm not going to change that and if she doesn't like it then she can break it off with me, and I'll go back to my single life, and I'll still be happy with it. I love her and care about her a lot, but if she would only be happy with me if I was someone else, then she should find someone else. It turns out that she's just playing an emotional game when she pulls that shit, and she doesn't actually want to break things off with me, but if I felt I'd only be happy with her in my life, then I'd be falling for these evil woman traps that you're so concerned about.
>>82947422>go outside, force yourself into social settings with women WITHOUT the expectation of dating/sexhaving interacted with a few women, i can tell you this is extremely boring and stupid. this is why men who have sex with women don't do this. they explicitly talk to girls with the intent of getting them into bed.do not listen to women who tell you to do this shit. women are incredibly boring. if they want sex they will respond to you wanted sex. if they don't you should move on because they literally have nothing else to offer. a woman's primary value is her body, this has been true since the time of cavemen. it's wired into their biology.
>>82947953do not listen to this anon. he gets no hoes.view women as your equals and treat them normal and everything comes easier!!
>>82947958this will get you no sex but a whole lot of boring conversation from humorless women
>>82947392I'm a guy, 29. Girls are nice, though bad experiences can make you believe otherwise.Real truth is that girls like men who treat them like her friends treat them, just be genuine and treat them like you would a male friend. If there is chemistry you will make a gf, if there isn't you will make a friend. Don't be afraid of the friendzone, having friends is nice, and having female friends gives you perspective
>>82947953This anon gets it. I spent my entire youth treating women as equals, chatting normally just like you'd do with a dude you're still getting to know: light banter, sharing relatable experiences, joking about stuff etc. Guess what?? I lost my high school years, college years and two jobs that I could have gotten a girlfriend or just fucked some, but it never happened. So do yourself a favor and be forward with your intentions, or you'll just keep walking in circles while the world moves around you
>>82947933You know, I sometimes think that I'm only sad because I've been conditioned by the society to feel this way and if I stopped caring about women at all, I'd have been a much better person, even towards women. The thing is I probably have the fear of missing out that if I won't get a wife at some point, I'll never be able to change that. I guess I'm just close to giving up completely on women and that's all. Also it's not that I'm afraid of women trying to change me, I'm afraid of putting effort for nothing, or having my life destroyed like it happened few times, just not in unrecoverable ways like divorce and taking my house away from me. Ughh... >>82947953I wouldn't go as far, also you cannot expect a mid quitet woman to be instantly horny and sexually responsive for a mid guy I am.>>82948196I have no problems in interacting with women, I'm in fear of them wrecking me further down, wasting my life and health and getting nothing in return from it.>>82948216Experience is useful even if you don't make relationships, happens to help at workplaces. I guess...
