I am a shameless piece of shit but yknow, it's just a matter of making a whole philosophy to rationalize it.
>>82947721i'm not shameless but i'm still a piece of shit, loland what philosophy is this?
You are not a philosopher you are a piece of shit.
>>82947721>>82947737OP is probably going to say nihilism when that's not what nihilism is nor is the goal of nihilism. OP's just a defeatist faggot who thinks acknowledging but not changing anything is noble. AKA a faggot.
>>82947753most famous philosophers are faggy egotistical pieces of shit anon
>>82947737>and what philosophy is this?I believe that true freedom lies in barbarism or in the deliberate search for isolation and distancing from any social construct that you can prove it's atleast mostly born from your own perception of the world as, doesn't matter how good of a system or how much you believe in certain values, at some point every single idea will be seen with at best rejection and at worst a desire for revolution, leaving any values behind and trying as hard as possible to be an outsider to most aspects of the world is crucial to find an state of fixed of mental "clarity" even if it isn't clarity at all. if to achieve this goal you need to do shitty shit to others then be it, as long as it is in the name of fulfilling your individualistic desires that you know that are actually, kind of yours and for you alone.but as >>82947753said, i'm just a piece of shit and as >>82947786said, I'm a defeatist piece of shit and not a philosopher at all.
>>82947786why is that nihilism is the most overused (because people say nihilism even tho they have 0 understanding of what it actually is), misunderstood (in the literally sense because no one uses the word correctly), philosophy ever?
>>82947840I don't know what the fuck nihilism is desuyou got me guys, I don't know shit about any philosophy yet I still feel entitled to preach my thoughts.
>>82947852start learning philosophy anon
>>82947838you can't prove** fuck nigga piss >:(
>>82947838i'm not too sure i comprehend what you're saying, but it's 2 am anyway, so...but you mentioned true freedom, freedom to do what?>leaving any values behind and trying as hard as possible to be an outsider to most aspects of the world is crucial to find an state of fixed of mental "clarity" even if it isn't clarity at all.i don't think that's clarity either, that's just impartialityclarity, i presume, is achieved not through less, but through more, taking in more views, different perspectives, including yours"truth", so to speak, can never be seen with just one set of eyes, it must be seen with all eyes from all angles>I'm a defeatist piece of shit and not a philosopher at all.same man, samefuckin' hell...
>>82947911>freedom to do what?To do anything you can if you feel like it's righteous in a true sense (a truthfulness that you can define yourself), can be as pity as idk pissing in your neighbor's porch if you hate the man or stealing from him or whatever, can be as extreme as committing things that the law deems incorrect and desirable of punishing. the law still exists for the common folk but his moral impact is decreased to zero if you see it as only an obstacle that can be surpassed as, morality lies within your hands, again you're free to give value to things as you deem fit, or the strip said value.
>>82947840Because people regurgitate misconstrued concepts to make themselves feel better for their inability to control their lives.Friedrich Nietzsche popularized the philosophical discussion around nihilism, and even he himself said (paraphrasing) that nihilism is not the endpoint, it is the transitional stage you go through when you begin to deconstruct and analyze your worldview, much like how you must break something down to understand it and rebuild something better. Nihilism is just a period you will go through in your attempt to better understand life and one's purpose.This common misconception is largely due to people only processing the first half of what he says and never the second. Retards think he was a nihilist (which is in part true, he called himself a nihilist. Not because he believed it was a "good" thing, but because he was going through said transition) who hated life, when he was trying to find the opposite.
If you were shameless you would have no reason to rationalize it
>>82947979>To do anything you can if you feel like it's righteous in a true sensewell anon, true freedom in that sense would depend on a lot of other things, lolfor instance, just because you can commit crimes doesn't mean you'll be able to, you can try but no guarantee you'll succeedthat would be true freedom to take initiative, but whether you'll accomplish what you set out to do or not, that is up for debateif "true freedom" for you is the freedom to do things as you please then it'd take nothing short of omnipotence to pull it throughyour freedom will be restricted by other circumstances otherwise, like other people, happenstances, equipment, knowledge, foresight, etc.
>>82948013>you can commit crimes doesn't mean you'll be able to, you can try but no guarantee you'll succeedYou can still do it, consequences will appear as the world respond to your acts but that itself doesn't strip you out for your right to commit them in the first place, failing to pull them off in the other hand well, the world obviously responds to any act you do, doesn't need to be a crime but what matters is that there's always a response but it's your detachment from the weight of that response what makes you free in a relative sense, defining it is as true freedom is kinda broad as, what really is true freedom is kinda broad and a whole thing in it's own now that I think about it, does it constitute complete power over reality or just power over what you can start without taking in account the consequences of that is confusing me now, do you think true freedom is omnipotence anon? cuz I'm starting to believe it too lmao, I'm kinda drunken out if you couldn't tell.So let's define as relative freedom, a taste of relative freedom that you can deem more genuine than the freedom that others impose over you as "freedom".
>>82948006D:oh no...
>>82948084>your detachment from the weight of that response what makes you free in a relative sensethat's what i meant, you gain freedom to take initiative, but not the freedom to actually do things, not alwaysyou may try anything, but if you'll succeed, that's another story>do you think true freedom is omnipotence anon?i think omnipotence brings true freedom, because it brings you the power needed to actually pull off whatever you want, no matter how outlandishbeing able to freely impose your will in the world with nothing to stop you, the freedom to take initiative AND to see it through to the end without fail, now that is true freedom as i see it>a taste of relative freedom that you can deem more genuine than the freedom that others impose over you as "freedom".hmm... they don't seem very connected to me, the freedom to take initiative and the "freedom" imposed over you by others (or rather, what's left of freedom to act after circumstances restrict it)one leads to the other, but still...
>>82947838that is the most pseud philosophy i've ever heardkys
