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>Only the top 5% of 18-24 year old males have access to sex
>This is unironically the WORST time in all of human history to be a male
>Even the Agrarian Revolution often cited by historians as "the worst time to be a male" was not this bad
>The ratio back then, was 1:17 the ratio today is 1:20 or 1:21
>There has no point in recorded history where it has ever been this bad to be male.

It's over
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>>82968921
>5% of heterosexual men have >50% of all heterosexual sex
Top 20% realistically have 80% or more. Incels were right.
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>>82968921
5 of 100 having 50 sexual partners each, or 250 sexual partners together.
It means these 5 fucked every women out there , half of them fucked same woman.
It's hypergamycaust.
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>>82968921
I dont see anymore how we need "scientific studies" for what any guy making a fake chad profile on Tinder saying he's a serial child rapist can test for himself.
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>>82968921
5% OF THE POPULATION OWNS OVER HALF THE PUSSY IN AMERICA
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>>82968921
5% of people have a ridiculously high number of sexual partners. This doesn't displace the other 95% who are not hypergamous. I don't know how retarded you've got to be for your conclusion here to be "everyone is banging Chad". It's not like women who are fucked by Chad sublimate on the spot, forever removed from the equation - they can go and get laid with plenty of other Chads afterwards. Chad and Stacy are fucking each other and like 50 other Chads and Stacys. Everyone who isn't sleeping around has just a handful of long term relationships, resulting in fewer partners, but NOT less sex.

How fucking stupid are you exactly OP?
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>>82968921
This is clearly not sustainable, the only questions are relating to how exactly it ends.
All the possible solutions (women=property, and/or literal harems for the 1% of males) seem bad.
Maybe genetic engineering to remove female hypergamy?
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>>82969016
>don't know how retarded you've got to be for your conclusion here to be "everyone is banging Chad".
It's just mathematics
>>82968966
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>>82968921
yeah. they're all part of chads harem, be it overtly or covertly
"dating around and finding yourself" is really just code for fucking the same top 3~% of guys that all the other women are fucking. literally our entire dating ecosystem is a harem for the top sexually attractive guys, and the rest of the men get nothing

and once these nasty old tattood up roastie hags get to 29 they settle down with some beta cuckold with all sort of chad semen flowing through her through telegomy

its really brutal to be a male
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>>82969016
>It's not like women who are fucked by Chad sublimate on the spot, forever removed from the equation -
After getting taste of a Chad's cock they would be forever looking down on normalfags.
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there will be widespread civil wars across western countries in the next 10-20 years

you might think this is absurd but we're way closer than people think.

Basically the only thing preventing this now is that the a large size of the population are boomers who have a high level of investment in stability and economic "growth". Once they die and the systems that supported them collapse it'll be mad max
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>>82969036
>there will be widespread civil wars across western countries in the next 10-20 years

no there wont be. men are too subverted, so socialized and normalized to being a cuck expendable cannon fodder

look at ukranian and russian men. forced to kill eachother until the guide of political propaganda, while their women are the world's whores


western men are no different. there is no uprising. only change will be with asi and ai taking over the world

modern men are too normalized to being alone
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>>82969026
Anonymous..... surely you understand how if there's a dating pool of many thousands of women and men, the top 5% of them fucking each other doesn't cause the other 95% to become sexless, right? Note how the study is looking at people aged 18-24 for example. The reasoning here could be that young women are screwing older men, or that a handful of men really are getting laid with all the women. But the study doesn't prove that, it's just meaningless extrapolation by OPs retarded ass.

Also this study is worthless in its premise based on the excerpt in the OP since it's using "sex acts" and "sex partners" interchangeably. Obviously if someone fucks their girlfriend every day, he's getting laid well enough by anyone's standards, and yet he's proportionally a virgin as compared to Chad who's fucking everyone he meets.

>>82969032
they don't get a choice since Chad didn't settle for their meagre offer
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>>82969016
>While the number of young men who report having no sexual experiences is increasing, there are also men who have more sex partners than ever before
Sounds like displacement to me senpai
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>>82969078
>Anonymous..... surely you understand how if there's a dating pool of many thousands of women and men, the top 5% of them fucking each other doesn't cause the other 95% to become sexless, right?
I am saying it's just mathematics if guy has 50 partners he and his buddy literally fucked every woman out there, there is simply not enough women to provide them (top 5%) 50 partners unless everybody participates.

>they don't get a choice since Chad didn't settle for their meagre offer
Problem is that they chase that Chad in a false hope he would commit to them (first of all he fucked me means he loves me, right?), while ignoring or worse, cucking other man.
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>>82968921
Your father was part of the top 5%. What happened with you?
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>>82968921
i think males 18-24 should suck it up lol
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>>82969036
Men don't even go outside to look for a girlfriend, you think they'll be motivated to fight anyone? Porn, SSRIs and gambling have made sure that men are cucks.
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>>82969082
Anon, these are two observations which are true on their own.
You can't just assume that there's a link between them. Nothing suggests causation.
Men are having less sex while hypersexual men are more common.


THere can be 1000 ways to rationalize these observations. On one hand, dating apps and relative degeneration of cultural norms leads to Chads being able to have sex with a lot of women easily, I think this is a reasonable assumption.


HOWEVER to say that the bottom 50% isn't getting laid because all the women already had their fill from Chad's cock is nonsense. Nothing suggests that. We can once again speculate - based on my own friend group I'd say a possible explanation is that entertainment media is so easy to access and so gratifying that getting laid just isn't as good. Ask the average KHV about whether he'd like to go out to parties and chat up girls, or if he'd rather sit at home playing DotA. He's gonna be playing DotA since its zero risk and more fun.

>>82969124
>am saying it's just mathematics if guy has 50 partners he and his buddy literally fucked every woman out there
NO

Lets say there's 100000 women - 5000 of them are whores, 95000 of them are normal
If the 5000 whores are fucking the 5000 chads, that still leaves 95% of women in the dating market for normal men to date and have sex with. I'm not from America so maybe all women over there really are whores but the data doesn't suggest that and neither does my personal experience.
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Chad has at least 5 different girls in his phone on speedial. It never began for me anyway, I never got choosing signals from girls in highschool and I refuse to flirt with coworkers.
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>>82969164
How often do you hang out at parties?
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>>82968921
This is a self-correction issue.
>aggressive dark-triad chads knock up half the population
>low quality women give birth to non-chad that are still dark-triad psychopaths
>passive beta-cucks are eliminated from the gene pool
>rape and murder becomes the norm, nobody gives a shit about it anymore
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>>82969127
it seems today
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>>82969167
I don't have any friends and I only went to one party in my adult life, this was when I was 19 and now I'm 23. Drank my first booze though at least, tasted terrible.
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>>82969184
>not I'm 23
>I don't have any friends
LOL that's crazy
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>>82969170
>aggressive dark-triad chads knock up half the population
You mistake to assume women get pregnant with from Chad in one night stands.
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>>82969125
Divorce wasn't even legal when my dad and mom met. Abortions were illegal too. Casual sex was severely frowned upon and women were ostracized for being unmarried.

As these cultural norms were slowly eroded, the average age of first marriage jumped from 27 to 36 and the amount of marriages dropped by over 75%.

The world became Chad's playground in the 90s. I blame western cultural influence.
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>>82969194
The legality wouldn't change the genetics. Your dad was still part of the top 5%
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>>82969167
Not the same guy but I'm not allowed to attend parties, the Chads who organize them refuse to let me in because according to them I ruin people's mood just by being ugly in their general proximity.
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>>82969138
your attempts at gaslighting us from the paper LITERALLY saying that the top % of men are having more sex while the rest of men are having less is pathetic

anyone can see how much of a joke you are. this isnt 2005 anymore, we have studies like in the op to shine light. this is why the scientific blackpill. because normies like you cant gaslight us anymore
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>>82969188
>das crazy
Crazy pathetic? Yeah, I know. I moved twice as a kid and during that time I lost contact with my best friends and at my new school I became an outcast due to a skin condition I had. Shit sucks.
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>>82969201
>Your dad was still part of the top 5%
Lol no back then everyone could get married even ugly guys because women simply weren't given a choice, now that they are free to choose, it's over for ugly guys.
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>>82969216
Ugly guys didn't exist because men were still going to the gym back then. They were basically all top 5% material.
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>>82969204
It's because you are a communist.
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>>82969205
>your attempts at gaslighting us from the paper LITERALLY saying that the top % of men are having more sex while the rest of men are having less is pathetic
maybe read my post before replying you ILLITERATE MONKEY RETARD
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>>82969138
An extremely large percentage of young males are completely sexless or entirely virgins, while 5% have an extremely high amount of sex. With women, the majority are non-virgins and report a normal amount of sex. Almost all women actually unknowingly share a very small selection of 5-20% of men. A Jama Network study has pic related,
>https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2767066
and
> Third, sexual activity was not defined in the General Social Survey. Thus, some participants may have interpreted the terms have sex and sex partners using a definition of vaginal intercourse (or sex partners as referring only to relational partners), whereas others may have considered sex to include oral sex or mutual masturbation. Some studies have found that men are more likely than women to report nonpenetrative sex as sex.
They even say women are less likely to report some sex as sex and men are more likely in the section on limitations.

I am going to get another study where the authors mention that the only thing that seems to account for the decrease in sex in males but the increase in it for females is likely "mate sharing" but I'll have to go through the archives. I posted the Jama link before.
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>>82969229
>completely sexless or entirely virgins
what's wrong with them?
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>>82969201
Legality and other social economic factors massively shift behavior and it outocoems. See even op study. In 10 years top 5% boosted from 38 to 50 partners and such small time span there is no genetics change.
10, 20, 40, 60 years ago there were massive social changes.

And about my father he was like 5 inches higher than average during his 20s and still married local equivalent of mail order bride.
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>>82969221
I was 5ft2 but then I went to the gym and now I'm 6ft8 and get all the bitches
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>>82969233
Nobody was talking about behavior, you fucking retard. Your father had ACCESS to sex because he was top 5%
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>>82969184
>implying the taste matters
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>>82969238
>Your father had ACCESS to sex because he was top 5%
Yeah and he scored mail order bride.
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>>82969234
5ft2 men don't exist, you were probably born a woman and you just didn't know
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>>82969245
According to incels, only Chad has the ability to find a vulnerable or easy woman. Pimps don't exist in their reality.
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>>82969016
>5% of people have a ridiculously high number of sexual partners. This doesn't displace the other 95% who are not hypergamous
C O P E
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>>82969265
This. Sexless men are fucking NPC normies. You will never convince me that men are "intelligent" or rational, they are all autistic losers. Literally the incel normalgroid gender.
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>>82969229
>>82969138
It's worse than that. The definition of sex by the GSC was:
>the subjective experience of an act that would result in loss of virginity
And many women don't consider anal, oral, etc., to be sex for the survey whereas men do. The actual gap in sexlessness between males and femlaes is higher which is what the authors were saying.
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>>82969245
It should be fairly obvious by now that you're responding to a troll who is trying to derail the thread because the studies posted in it triggered the fuck out of him.
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>>82969016
No, studies repeatedly show actual gaps in virginity between young males and females. Women are mate sharing with an increasingly slim percentage of males. This is the only way the gap between sexual frequency can be understood if females are having sex at much higher levels and absolute sexlessness (0 lifetime partners) is rising very sharply for men but not for women.
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>>82969287
Imagine getting triggered by learning that sexhavers are top 5%
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>>82969301
What is the current gap between virgins?
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>>82968921
Why is it that heterosexual men have an average of 6 sexual partners throughout their whole lives while homosexual men have hundreds if not thousands on average? Are women just not horny? Are gay men less picky?
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>>82968921

>Even the Agrarian Revolution often cited by historians as "the worst time to be a male" was not this bad
>The ratio back then, was 1:17 the ratio today is 1:20 or 1:21
Pretty sure this a major component of the rise of transexualism.
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>>82969229
This is an impressive study, but I don't think you people ( >>82969301 ) are drawing the right conclusions. While a trend of hypersexuality is observed, the sexlessness of young men can't be blamed on this. We have fewer relationships, not women refusing relationships because they're getting dicked by Chad. Look at the numbers in the study and tell me I'm wrong. I've attached a graph for example (from the study you posted), people in relationships have sex often, so let's look at the disparity between sex havers and people in relationships... turns out they're correlated rather well, no? I highlighted the disparity between the margins, those are the "whores and whoremongers" and it doesn't seem like the root of the issue.

Of course to some degree your point stands, a LOT of women are whores, but that's still just 5-10% of their overall population so there's still a shitload of women and men out there that just aren't having sex, irrespective of hypersexuality.


>>82969285
you are genuinely retarded. Like 80IQ monkey retard tier. Stop posting.
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I dont even care about sex at this point I wish I could just talk to people without there being some invisible force field. Is it something theyre putting in the water? Everyone is laughing at me
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>>82969333
Because degeneracy in general leans toward hypersexuality. Whatever hijacks the sexual development of men to become furries, trans, gays, etc, also results in a much more intense fixation on sexual gratification.
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>>82969333
>average bettwen 50 and 0 is 6
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>>82969342
Your examination isn't actually the point of the graph. Imagine that 40-60% of females will each have sex with one particular man over the course of the year, but that particular man will be having sex with several of that pool of women.

Men have a higher number of no sex/low sex or extremely high amounts of partners/sex, whereas women cluster in the middle and have sex more frequently.
>More men than women reported having no sexual partner (16.4% vs 12.0%; P=.04) and 3 or more partners (14.5% vs 7.1%; P<.001), whereas fewer men reported weekly or more sexual activity (46.7% vs 53.3%; P=.02) and 1 sexual partner (57.5% vs 74.2%; P<.001). Differences between the sexes were most pronounced among those aged 18 to 24 and 25 to 34 years. (This quotation includes age data in aggregate)
I.e., raw data supports men are more likely to have almost no contact with women ever, or to run through women at a very high rate (sexless incels vs. chads that have 3 or more women per week), whereas women tend to engage in sex frequently with 1 partner.

The difference on the average in not much, but comparing age groups, it becomes extreme, where nearly double the amount of young males are entirely sexless than women. The difference becomes even more pronounced when sexual orientation is accounted for, as homosexual males engage in a lot more sex (and are counted in the study, and the study acknowledges the effect on the data).

This particular study is not designed to tease out the specific variables involved in determining the 80/20 rule, but it comes extremely close. The phenomenon whereby a large percentage of men are virgins or achieve almost no sex, and another set runs through many women per week (3+) is scientific fact. The disparity may or may not be as extreme as incels say it is, but they are describing a phenomenon that is grounded in fact.
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>>82969342
>>82969382
All of this is in addition to the fact that YES women do tend not to report some sexual activity as sex whereas men tend to do so, meaning the tested gap is likely higher in reality than indicated. The authors of the study note this fact.
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>>82969382
>The disparity may or may not be as extreme as incels say it is
Well, that's the main point of my post. As a trend, there's a shift. But the effects are relatively minor and people who lull themselves into hating women for "being whores" when the actual rate of Chadsexuals just went from 5% to 7% is something I fear is just concentrating the problem.

I wish there were graphs for just the young generation, but as far as general trends go this doomposting about how women won't even give me a chance since they're fucking Chad on the side is learned helplessness. More men are starting to hate women and it ISNT helping them get laid. The true likelyhood of you getting rejected because some chick wanted to keep her options open is lower than you can imagine.
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>>82969421

PS: The fact that homosexuals were included in the sample is astronomically retarded and skews the entire dataset and puts the whole "Chads are hypersexual with women" narrative into murky waters. Look at this shit
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>>82969342
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886916311084
>Gender differences play a meaningful role in understanding sexual definitions. Men and women tend to have different attitudes about sexual interactions, as men are more apt to have a permissive viewpoint regarding sexual behaviors (Wilson & Medora, 1990) and report having a larger number of sexual partners than women (Wiederman, 1997). ... For other behaviors, men have been found to be more likely to incorporate breast contact, genital touching (Gute et al., 2008, Sanders and Reinisch, 1999), and oral-genital contact (Gute et al., 2008, Hans et al., 2010) in their definition of "having sex."
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/188367
>when asked, "Is oral sex 'real' sex?" only 52% of men and 46% of women said yes. However, this suggests that for some, engaging in an act they define as "sex" does not necessitate defining the other person as a "sexual partner" and, hence, does not inevitably lead to labeling the interaction as a sexual relationship.

>For the behaviors less frequently included as having "had sex," men were slightly more likely to incorporate them into the "had sex" category.

Why are you anti-science.
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>>82969452
>slightly
bet
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>>82969452
>Why are you anti-science.

I called you a retard monkey because this is included in the limitations and is not pertinent to the discussion. Whether or not its true doesn't change anything because we are looking at trends over time. We can assume that men or womens' attitudes towards what they do or don't consider sex didn't change to such a degree to skew the trend.
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>>82969462
It still widens the gap over all of these categories.
>The largest minority of individuals endorsed oral contact with genitals as sex (40.8-48.3%), followed by genital touching (25.2-34.2%), sex toy stimulation
These percentage points are enough to skew it even with women being around 2.6% more likely to consider anal sex to be sex.
> (80.0-82.6%)
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>>82969478
No because you already posted this here >>82969452
>slightly
also it's hilarious that you have no clue how percentage points work.
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>>82969474
No, we're examining the real differences between sex and sexlessness and young males 18-24 are almost twice as likely to report complete sexlessness in the past year than women are, and the real amount of males having sex is lower overall for men than women.
>>82969483
I know that a 2.6% differences between the two is not a 2.6% difference between males and females and when applied to the total aggregate of instances sexual events. The differences in reporting skewing the data is strictly listed in the limitations as a factor that may skew the data. I do not know how you are struggling with this. The limitations on domestic violence between males/females also almost always notes that men are less likely to report any victimization and that it is almost certain men are abused much more than is tracked in data.

I am only telling you that the data shows the statistics favorably align with what incels are saying, even if not as extreme, and the only way to really account for it is hypergamy whereby females have sex with a smaller pool of males (either older, as older women had a decrease in sex, or clustered with higher status young males and older males combined).
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>>82969523
>pedantic retard with no clue how statistics work
>uses the word hypergamy incorrectly
You are a moron. Hypergamy means MARRIAGE with someone in a higher socio-economic class.
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>>82969536
I am using internet lingo you pedant. On /r9k/ it just means sex with higher status males. Pedantry when you know the meaning is obvious by context is what a loser resorts to when they cannot defend their point any longer.
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>>82969545
You didn't defend anything. 19% of men have reported not having sex in the past year. It's that simple.
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>>82969028
kek true as fuck image. It's been over
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>>82968921
>It's over
Indeed. Incels called this a decade ago.
Fuck apps and social media ruined everything.
It's a miracle we don't have guys going ER every week.
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>>82969594
Because men are porn addicts. They have no reason to ER
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>>82969536
>Hypergamy (colloquially referred to as "dating up" or "marrying up"[1]) is a term used in social science for the act or practice of a person dating or marrying a spouse of higher social status than themselves.
It also includes simple dating.
>>82969558
We are examining young males. It is nearly 30.9% of males 18-24 and less than 20% of females aged 18-24:
>the proportion of 18- to 24-year-old individuals who reported having had no sexual activity in the past year increased among men (18.9% vs 30.9%; age-adjusted odds ratio [aOR] for trend across survey periods, 1.20; 95% CI, 1.04-1.39) but not among women (15.1% vs 19.1%; aOR for trend, 1.03; 95% CI, 0.89-1.18).
Since sexual activity in older males is not increasing, this means a smaller average pool of sex partners for these women.
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>>82969610
Sadly, that's also leading to them trooning out and going full degenerate or fag.
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>>82969613
>simple dating.
Nah. The point of using the term "gamy" is marriage or having children. Colloquially, every guy is having sex when they masturbate, but you would probably say that the point of using the word "sex" means at least two people doing the penis in hole.

>smaller average pool
the pool is irrelevant. men obviously have more average number of partners, but yeah the lifestyle of a larger portion of young men tends to avoid sex altogether
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>>82968921
>>Only the top 5% of 18-24 year old males have access to sex
That's not at all what it says. You're a liar, like all incels. Stop spreading your gay psyops.
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>>82969686
The only true love is between a man and another man. Cope harder.
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>>82969650
>Nah. The point of using the term "gamy" is marriage or having children.
Did you just say nah to a textual source. Hypergamy refers to sexual mate selection in a colloquial sense and its non-matrimonial connotation is already mentioned just on wikipedia.
>Colloquially, every guy is having sex when they masturbate,
You are desperately grasping for straws. No one uses sex to mean masturbation. This is not the colloquial sense of sex either. You might be able to stretch it with "sexual activity" but it's obvious that both you and I mean sex with someone else, and it's obvious on reddit, here, or in informal spaces that hypergamy means just picking high status males for anything, especially dating.
>https://www.healthline.com/health/hypergamy
>Hypergamy refers to the practice of marrying or entering a relationship with someone of a higher social standing. It is more commonly referred to as 'marrying up.'
>Hypergamy is the act of dating or marrying someone who has a higher social status or greater wealth.
Here is the word in the wild being used in the so extremely rare and unusual sense that includes dating or relationships.

Can we not do the pedantry games, since I am obviously right and you used this pedantic statement here: >>82969536 to avoid addressing the text of the post?
>>82969650
>the pool is irrelevant.
The pool is literally the point of the post. Women are choosing from a smaller pool of males. There is no debating this. This is literally the point of incels saying a higher number of women choose a smaller number of males. It is that simple.
>men obviously have more average number of partners, but yeah the lifestyle of a larger portion of young men tends to avoid sex altogether
This is a conjectural handwave. I am giving you actual data.
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>>82969708
>Hypergamy refers to marriage with a high socio-economic class
Yeah that's my point.
>actual data
I was talking about the actual data. It's not just the numbers, there are reasons behind why men have a higher number of partners.
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>>82969708
Please just stop responding to the troll
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>>82969748
This one is just a genuine imbecile.
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>>82969227
>maybe read my post before replying you ILLITERATE MONKEY RETARD
"This trend was NOT observed among women of the same age"
read the study
women have the same amount of sex
top males have more, most men lose out

clown
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>>82969708
>No one uses sex to mean masturbation
False
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>>82969756
You really are practically illiterate, you know that?

>what is a trend
>what is an age group
FUCKING RETARD
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>>82969763
He also implied that the word monogamy includes fucking a prostitute. We just saying shit now.
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>>82969775
lashing out and name calling serves your goal to gaslight no purpose. infact, it undermines your attempt to pacify and gaslight the incels here

not that being rational is something you care for in the first place
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>>82969763
Wikipedia:
>Hypergamy (colloquially referred to as "dating up" or "marrying up"[1]) is a term used in social science for the act or practice of a person dating or marrying a spouse of higher social status than themselves.
Use in the wild: https://www.healthline.com/health/hypergamy
>Hypergamy refers to the practice of marrying or entering a relationship with someone of a higher social standing. It is more commonly referred to as 'marrying up.'
>Hypergamy is the act of dating or marrying someone who has a higher social status or greater wealth.
Both including dating and/or relationships. This use of hypergamy is common. Sex being used to mean masturbation is extremely uncommon. For example, the study when it tracks sexlessness is not examining masturbation.
You only look pathetic. Now reply to the post instead of trying to be pedantic about the term hypergamy, which extends to dating and was used not only correctly in this post >>82969523 but also in line with the colloquial use of it here and elsewhere.

The post refutes you. Do you have anything of substance to say or have you been backed all the way into a corner as an obvious imbecile?
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>>82969809
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firehose_of_falsehood
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>>82969809
Talking about substance is ironic when you think hypergamy includes any type of relationship. My only criticism of you was that you tried to go full pseud while still using incoherent buzzwords. Incels are saying you are a fucking retard, and the statistic align favorably with this simple objective factoid.
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I don't get why the powers that be simply don't care about it, but the female biology is hardwired for looking for Chad (or context Chad), so what else can you do? Christianity shamed women and it worked for a while, but nobody cares anymore.

My theory is that they need the female votes to stay in power, which in turn creates a daddy state that shields women from the consequences of their actions, the only solution is defunding the government which will never happen.

Men will keep coping or killing themselves at record number every year. Good news is if you're white american, you can always SEAmax and marry a teen philipina. I'm a brown manlet so I'm fucked.
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>>82969784
Incels are gaslighting themselves by pretending it's hard to find a girlfriend. Learned helplessness is literally defined by gaslighting yourself.
>statistics show that I have a 50% chance of being male or female
>its over
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>>82969884
That's how evolution works. The best genetics simply win out in the end.
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>>82969784
>not that being rational is something you care for in the first place
I'm very tired of having to explain such basic aspects of a paper. It would be nice to have proper discussions but instead every thread is sidetracked by having to argue about things that should be self explanatory.

>See anon, this paper accounts for women aged 18 to 24, but these women can have sex with men who aren't in this age group too, do you understand now?
>See anon, this is a trend, these stats skewed in the same direction in the sample from 20 years ago too, so when we say "a trend is observable" it just means things continued to change in the same direction, but to imply that social dynamics meaningfully shifted would be a mistake


I don't know what to say, this will be my last post on the thread. It's such a waste of time. Zero reading comprehension, zero self reflection, these threads are hopeless!
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>>82969868
Here is another study using hypergamy to include any male-female coupling where the male has a higher income.
>https://www.demographic-research.org/volumes/vol44/7/44-7.pdf
You aren't getting anywhere. You can keep trying to say this but literally no one will buy it and you are only making yourself look more and more pathetic and desperate.

There are no factoids, just plain facts, data, and evidence, all of which makes you out to be an obvious retard.
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>>82969904
Human societies also have social structure, not only physical qualities.
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>>82968921
Nigga what about all the people in relationships? Is this counting them or just looking at casual hookups on Tinder lmao
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>>82969912
So are you talking about "smaller pool" or "higher income"? Your cognitive dissonance is insane.
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>>82969868
>>82969912
>To assess the composition of the relationship market, we selected all individuals (not just those who were in a relationship) who provided information about their level of completed education. Separately, to measure educational assortative mating patterns, all individuals in a relationship (marriage or cohabitation) were considered if they provided data about their own and their partners completed educational attainment. We excluded respondents under the age of 25 and above the age of 55 for all analyses in order to limit the number of persons who might substantially advance their education in the future.
Don't take it too harshly. You aren't very bright. You lost at simple pedantry in addition to the argument you shrank away from in lieu of any coherent point.

Relax. Take some xanax. It's just an internet debate on a shartyforum.
>>82969938
Both. That is why I specified my definition in that very post:
>>82969523
>hypergamy whereby females have sex with a smaller pool of males
Let me guess, you're going to say
>lol... um... i was just pretending to be retard. haha. sry :L
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>>82968921
Women are just fixing the world by not creating more Incels.
It's a tough pill to swallow, but you shouldn't even exist, you only exist because women had no rights.
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>>82969036
>there will be widespread civil wars across western countries in the next 10-20 years
You won't do shit lmao.
You will have to completely take all rights away from women to fix this situation and that's never going to happen because the men in power have wives that they love.
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>>82969170
>low quality women give birth to non-chad that are still dark-triad psychopaths
This only happens when women have no rights.
>passive beta-cucks are eliminated from the gene pool
Correct.
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>>82969016
Wrong, once they get Chad once they become convinced it's the new minimum they deserve and won't settle for anything less.
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>>82969976
Fixing the world by marrying less, living like whores, getting abortions and becoming single moms giving birth to future criminals? Please elaborate. Do you think ugly, stupid and short females should be cut out of the gene pool as well?
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>>82969937
What people in relationships? At least half or more of my similarly aged male peers are single but I don't know a single single woman in the same range.
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>>82970012
>pic rel
Crazy to believe some woman can be so deluded to think being pumped and dumped by men who won't commit to them is a flex
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>>82969969
>writes an essay
>"relax bro"
were you the retard who didn't know what hypergamy meant
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>>82970047
Because women only date men who are 70+ years old.
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>>82970045
Do ugly short and stupid females have a lot of trouble doing the most basic human functions like having sex?
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>>82970045
>marrying less
less undesirables
>living like whores
different topic
>getting abortions
different topic
>future criminals
How are they supposed to know this
>Do you think ugly, stupid and short females should be cut out of the gene pool as well?
Of course but that's Chad's decision
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>>82970122
>How are they supposed to know this
Them knowing or not knowing this doesn't change the outcome therefore they are not fixing the world.
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>>82970091
That's a nice try, but you look even more pathetic trying to conjure the power of peer pressure on 4chan.
>essay
I'm bored and like writing, my other options today are read (I have a headache), play vidya (it's trapped in update hell), or jerk off to hentai (already did 58 times today). It's your fault if you're objectively wrong and too insecure to accept it.
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>>82970132
That's literally exactly why they change the outcome by fixing the world.
>someone solves world hunger
>"but have you considered terraforming mars?"
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>>82970136
Objectively wrong about what? Explain yourself, tranime freak.
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>>82970139
How is creating a bunch of fatherless criminals and mixing ugly short girl genetics with Chad's fixing the world though?
Your analogy about terraforming makes zero sense, you btfo your own argument in your second post lmao
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>>82970168
What are you yapping about? Are the "criminals" in the room with us now, schizo? I had a father and I have a son, stop being a retard.
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>>82970155
>didn't know what hypergamy meant
>hypergamy explicitly defined including normal partnerships
My condolences, you're too retarded to read.
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>>82970175
Yeah, a type of marriage/union.
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deradicalizers btfo, your lies crumble in in the light of the objective truth and lived experience, total incel victory
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>>82970183
>i have radical views
>also i am part of the 95% of NPC normies
pick one.
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>>82970188
>95% of society are incels
I bet you do it for free
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Fewer men than ever are going out and having social lives. Women are not shut in gamers who masturbate eight times a day so they still go outside. So these women, who need social proof from men, are getting it from a shrinking pool.

Western men are extremely feminized, so instead of doing something proactive they bitch online about it as if they're entitled to pussy.
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>>82970173
Nobody is talking about your personal family situation lmao
Single mother housholds produce low confidence, antisocial behaviour for people raised in them. It's a widely observed phenomenon.
Weak attempt at deflection, anon.
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>>82970183
This study is a lie, unattractive men can't have great personality
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>>82970194
95% of men and women are too ugly to get sex.
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>Collapse 82969016 and a couple of others
>Half the thread is gone
>kek
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>>82970200
>manup and work just in time to get drafted and die in WWIII
>your reward if you survive, a used up single mother with debt and body count over 50
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>>82970200
>they bitch online about it as if they're entitled to pussy.
MGTOW don't.
Reppillers don't.
Half of blackpillers don't.
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>>82970213
If she had a high body count that means most men already got their reward.
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>>82970204
Never spell behavior like a retard. And nobody was talking about single mothers.

>somebody cures cancer
>"ok but have you considered that whaling is a problem"
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>>82970182
If union includes dating, that's your gentle concession. Otherwise, you're just wrong again.
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>>82970225
Could you logically explain why union would include dating? I don't see how getting a cup of coffee would be counted as starting a family.
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>>82970223
Literally anon's post you responded to mentioned single mothers, as well as the obvious implications. Keep squirming though lool
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>>82970273
we were talking about the implications of improving the gene pool.
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>>82969036
So what sides will be in this war? Lol will there be uniforms?

There wont be any war, just everyone being crushed more and more
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>>82970200
>so instead of doing something proactive they bitch online about it as if they're entitled to pussy.
This isn't 2015 anymore, we don't. We accepted we are not entitled to pussy and now we only live for ourselves. Have fun living among 95% of men who wouldn't lift a finger to help you if you're ever in need. I'm going to keep doing anything in my power to make sure life gets as uncomfortable as possible for you.
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Through DEI, young men's earning potential has been moved to young women. Young women are happy to enjoy grants/bursaries/scholarships/internships that exclude young men, but are not willing to date the young men who are made to earn less as a result of this system.
Young women.. STILL want their partner to be richer and more educated.
Yes, young women hypocrites.
Never, ever, ever vote for a party that supports DEI.
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>>82970291
The men that earn literally nothing are still dating. The poorest people in my neighborhood have 4 kids.
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>>82969036
>there will be widespread civil wars across western countries in the next 10-20 years
By all rights it should be happening right fucking now, but nothing continues to happen.
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>>82970237
No, the issue isn't the definition of union. If you personally want to say union includes dating, then you can be right. If you do not, then you will remain wrong. Stop trying to avoid the argumemt. Hypergamy was used in the colloquial sense that is attested to on Wikipedia:
>Hypergamy (colloquially referred to as "dating up" or "marrying up"[1]) is a term used in social science for the act or practice of a person dating or marrying a spouse of higher social status than themselves.
Elsewhere: https://www.healthline.com/health/hypergamy
>Hypergamy refers to the practice of marrying or entering a relationship with someone of a higher social standing. It is more commonly referred to as 'marrying up.'
>Hypergamy is the act of dating or marrying someone who has a higher social status or greater wealth.
and in the context of normal partnerships that do not include marriage and can be of indefinite time, including a single day:
https://www.demographic-research.org/volumes/vol44/7/44-7.pdf
>Educational assortative mating and the decline of hypergamy in
27 European countries
>To assess the composition of the relationship market, we selected all individuals (not just those who were in a relationship) who provided information about their level of completed education. Separately, to measure educational assortative mating patterns, all individuals in a relationship (marriage or cohabitation) were considered if they provided data about their own and their partners completed educational attainment. We excluded respondents under the age of 25 and above the age of 55 for all analyses in order to limit the number of persons who might substantially advance their education in the future.
The above study includes all cohabitative partnerships (which you will want to use to railroad into a separation from dating) while the other two include dating as well.

You cannot avoid this. You only look more and more desperate.
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>>82970305
What does that have to do with unions? Are you an incel?
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>>82970290
You have your work cut out for you, I'm extremely comfortable.
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>>82970301
Yeah, I don't want to knock up a hoodrat.
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>>82970320
A union, as in the word that means "joining", as in two people coming together.
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>>82970324
Then date a rich girl. Tons of guys are hypergamous these days.
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>>82970341
It could obviously be more than two people. If you are grabbing coffee with 5 different girls a week it's still called monogamy because you only got coffee with one person at a time.
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>>82970321
>I'm extremely comfortable
Yeah yeah of course you are. Just like every girlboss out there.
At the end of the day, we all know that the only natural conclusion for a Western woman is to be a prostitute. Whether you do it willingly or unwillingly is only a matter of time. Enjoy the future you chose.
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>>82970320
>still pretending to be retarded
Hypergamy includes dating. It is widely used this way. I can only apologize for your stupidity but not much else can be done about you.
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>>82970359
>Enjoy the future you chose
That's literally the entire point of choosing your future. Do you think incels are not enjoying their lives?
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>>82970350
That's irrelevant when the context of this discussion and the links is a relationship between two people (in particular, male and female) which can be marriage, cohabitative, or simply dating.
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>>82970368
Widely used by people who do not understand what hypergamy means.
>a diamond dozen people say that average IQ is declining XDD
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>>82970372
>choosing your future means you will enjoy it
woman logic is so retarded lmao.
Like I said, prostitution is the only path your life is going to take.
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>>82970382
The context could easily include more than two people, like when a girl has sex with 50 guys and you still call that monogamy.
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>>82970342
Are you retarded?
>>82970350
No it isn't. If you were to tell them about the other coffee dates, they would correctly accuse you of going on dates with other women.
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>>82968921
And yet blackpilled incels self-cuck by standing against the legalization of prostitution.
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>>82970398
>with other women.
This doesn't change the fact that you were only on a coffee date with one woman at a time. You are a pure monogamous family man who just likes to have many partners.
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>>82970391
>implies that he chooses a future that he won't enjoy
>"logic"
LOL are you retarded
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>>82970413
Because a woman has never regretted her past choices.
I'm done though, no point trying to explain these matters to a future prostitute.
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>>82970385
>Hypergamy (colloquially referred to as "dating up" or "marrying up"[1]) is a term used in social science for the act or practice of a person dating or marrying a spouse of higher social status than themselves.
"Dating or marrying". You have received plenty of examples.
It's clear that you keep repeating the same demonstrably incorrect phrase like a mantra because of how sensitive and hurt you are that you looked like a complete retard on an anonymous basket weaving forum. You don't have a name or ebin upboats here. Take the L and go take a nap.
>>82970392
It can. That's not really relevant to a discussion about relationships between two people and sexlessness in male/female populations 18-24.
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>>82970301
>The men that earn literally nothing are still dating
Tall ones, yes
I am 5ft2
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>>82970405
That fact isn't changed, but that has nothing to do with the definition of monogamy. It has not to do with whether or not the dates occurred at the same time. It has to do with whether or not the other women were in a relationship with the man at the time that he went on a date with another woman.

If you reply once more appealing to the wrong definition of the word monogamy, I'm not going to respond.
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>>82970439
Monogamy just means one at a time. If you have sex with hundreds of people that is still called monogamy.
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>>82970434
You can't trust a male who is still sexless after 18. They are lying.
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>>82969884
Jews are using women as an attack vector on the white male population. They empower women, at the expense of men (no fault-divorce, believe all women, quotas/dei) and make relationships as untenable as possible. Make you afraid to trust a woman as she has all the power under the law. Likewise with the propaganda women are tentative to trust men if they return to their traditional role. Meanwhile muslims, where the male and female actually work in tandem as complementary partners, show up with their 6 wives and dominate the neighbourhoods (experiencing this first hand) with their kids will soon take over demographically, culturally and spiritually.

It's not women's fault. Women are just taking advantage of the benefits society provides them. It's the jews.

Apologies for the /pol-esque post.
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>>82970173
It's just a fact that boys raised by single mothers are more criminal by a huge degree. Like the correlation between crime and single motherhood is greater than poverty. As in a white child raised by a single mom would be as criminal as a black
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>>82970464
Criminal incels should just be put in prison.
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>>82970200
>implying
I touch grass, women don't go outside either unless they are 40 years old and rich
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>>82970476
That's because it's too cold outside. Most people are at large social gatherings.
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>>82970278
Your implication that women choose beneficial genes is false.
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>>82970471
But not immigrant rapists or foids who throw acid in men's faces for a sexist joke.
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>>82970476
Nah, I drive a cab and am completely aware of who goes out and where to.
It's almost exclusively women and gay men. Very few straight men socialize these days unless they're already in a relationship being dragged out by a woman.
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>>82970488
Choosing the best genetics implies you choose beneficial genes.
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>>82970045
>getting abortions and becoming single moms giving birth to future criminals
The first thing take cares of the other
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>>82970488
>>82970511
Beneficial is a subjective category. If "beneficial" means successful breeding, then a male who kidnaps females, rapes them, and brings the babies to term is more beneficial than a chad who has one child over his lifetime. Likewise, if it is people who aren't dark triad psychopaths, it would be bad genes but genetically successful nonetheless.
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>>82970558
you're talking about objective qualities, not subjective ones.
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>>82970579
A quality can be objective, but the subjective component is how you identify it as good or bad. If someone believes failure to reproduce is good, then they will identify a different set of genes as beneficial. If there is a genetic component to being dark triad, then that is an objective fact. Whether that is "beneficial" is the subjective component.
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Sometimes i wished i was a woman so i could experience what people take for granted
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>>82970539
If everyone is aborted the species goes extinct
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>>82970739
When I was in a psyche facility, there was a boy who was "trans" that wanted to be a girl because he was told all his life that guys are evil, rapists, monsters, and he felt like no one would ever love or want him. I redpilled him and convinced him not to get estrogen at least while we were in the facility, idk what he's up to now. But he looked super engaged in the redpill and started talking about it a lot.

I really feel for you...
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>>82970780
Its just that if i was born a woman i would have everything affection easy access to money and i would never be at risk to be broke or homeless...life as a man is so hard nowadays i cant compete i tried to make money and i failed ..i am 3/10 bald so there is no hope for socialising...my life is a prison
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>>82970803
Break things and deal shit
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>>82969884
TPTB want everyone suffering to further their Satanist agenda
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>>82970811
There is nothing i can do i am a genetic garbage and unable to socialise so there is nothing to deal
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>>82970503
Nta but on what fucking planet? The only time I see a young person out they're my waitress or bartender, flipping burgers or filing paper cups with shitty coffee. I am not out here to be cunt #17 to flirt with the one cute girl bringing me drinks today so that basically meant there's nobody to talk to unless you want to hang out with the walking corpse Gen xers
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>>82970831
Steal shit and break things
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>>82970064
>is a flex
To other women it is. Chad cock is the highest status symbol and a mere sample of it is worth boasting about.
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>>82970751
Just abort the ones single mother and poor people have
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>>82969028
Makes me so happy that men aren't settling for this as much these days.
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Are people still refusing to understand that women feel entitled to the bodies of above average men?
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>>82968921
I just want to creampie the same girl forever
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>>82971393
I unironically believe it's a big part of the reason why so many men are seemingly "checking out" these days, whether they're consciously aware of it or not. It's humiliating to say the least to perform all these grand romantic gestures, sacrifice your freedom and commit yourself to a woman that's already given herself in the most intimate ways to other men. You can't have a functioning society worth a damn if the average guy doesn't have a reasonable chance at a virgin wife and owning land.
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>>82971695
>sacrifice your freedom and commit yourself to a woman that's already given herself in the most intimate ways to other men.
yea see that's another tool in your incel toolbox that all of you incels use. muh, "she's been with others so i'm insecure about the situation at hand." i don't give a fuck at all about who any of my girlfriends have been with because i know that both i'm the most attractive and longest cocked they've been with, and that exact combination is pretty rare in itself, so. i don't give a fuck at all, nobody is on my level, incel. even ugly as fuck pornstars. they're all either straight ugly with a long dick like me, or decent looking but short dicked, nobody has both like me. so no, they could have fucked whoever, it never crosses my mind. and when i leave or remain quiet for an extended period of time? they all start scattering and getting nervous wondering if i'm cheating on them. same patterns everywhere, you're just an ugly ass incel so stop
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>>82971695
Or a reasonable chance at a wife with a body count under 100 and/or doesn't look like Jaba The Hutt that will be frigid because you aren't quite the Chad she hoped for
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>>82971801
not all women are redgifs whores, ugly incel. find the ones that have only been in ltr's.
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>>82969004
kek, can't stop laughing
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>>82970012
>Wrong, once they get Chad once they become convinced it's the new minimum they deserve and won't settle for anything less.
i see this talked about so little
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>>82969004
We need to redistribute the pussy, it's time that the top five percent start paying their fair share
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>>82971655
All of modern politics is a list of things women feel entitled to. Everything. The entirety of the political climate is women claiming more and more entitlements, even down to free clothes and tampons (the woman tax, they call it) or anything else. There has never been a class more fundamentally bourgeois than a female, and even the poorest and most impoverished of women in an egalitarian society is a petit capitalist.
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>>82969174
That all you see
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>>82971695
For me, I hated people early on and that rather poisoned the well. Watching people's marriages fall apart and the bullshit the ones sticking through with it have to put up with I just lost any and all interest. It's genuinely way too much to stress over.
A lot of us have seen what pussy does to a mf and it's so much worse.
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>>82968921
look up universe 25 or was it already mentioned? theres nothing to be alarmed about, its just the natural order of things
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>>82971788
holy word salad, not reading that lol
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>>82968921
>ITS WOMANS FAULT THEY GET BEATEN AND RAPED BY ABUSIVE MEN THEY SHOULDV CHOSE BETTER!!1
>women only start to date kind and considerate men who are a tiny tiny minority
>NOOO COME BACK ACK!
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>>82972606
Nobody said anything about dating virgin.



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