>>82987780
He has a degree in physics and is a billionaire. I think he's fairly smart. If you've went to college and interacted with professors, he wouldn't come off as out of the ordinary from them: eccentric, strange, and witty.

his public stance on trans people is tiresome

>>82987780
It sounds like you're saying you think you're smarter than he is.

>>82987780
He's relatively intelligent and informed on a variety of topics, but dumb enough to believe that this level of knowledge is enough to make him an expert on the matter.
He has just enough knowledge on many topics to come up with ideas for them, but not enough to know why they're retarded and will never work.
This is why he comes up with so many infeasible ideas, when he should really just speak to actual experts in these fields, and defer to them and his employees rather than trying to do a one man rodeo.

>>82987780
this guy seriously comes off as low IQ and retarded. I'm not even a Musk hater or anything. I'd love to be pro-Musk to be contrarian. but the guy legitimately seems like a dumbfuck

>>82987804
hang yourself already, tranny

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>>82987851
wombyns privilege in society is about them having kids

anti-natalist wombyn that think that wombyn only spaces should exist for them is laughable, anti natalist terfs are pretty fucking shit humans

in the scope of -5% of wombyn born in the 90s that have ever been on dating apps breeding, for life, i truly believe trans women are valid

>>82987804
more ironic, considering his tits.

>>82987865
how about this, neither the opinions of women nor those of deranged troons are "heckin' valid"

>>82987780
he is high IQ, getting in on the dotcom boom, but he has gotten lazy and delusional living in his bubble for so long, he should have kept his mind stimulated like jeff bezos

>>82987850
How does a dumbfuck manage to create multiple highly successful companies that push the frontiers of technology and become the wealthiest man in all of human history?
This entire thread comes off as a bunch of seething troons and /leftypol/fags astroturfing.

Musk is a midwit. He's somewhat smarter than average but by no means a genius. However, he vastly overestimates his own intelligence.

>>82988108
The majority of his companies are failures. He simply got lucky with Tesla. He has done a lot of high-risk gambles that could have crashed everything, but he ended up lucking out with those gambles.

>>82987780
He absorbed Grimes' retard energy and has been mentally disabled ever since.

>>82988108
He's definitely not dumb, but he's not the iqmaxxed genius he wants to be seen as. He just knows who to hire and work with

>>82988130
High risk gambles in highly complex frontier pushing ventures that required immense amounts of hard work and intellect, yes.

>>82988148
Which doesn't make him smart, just lucky.

>>82988158
Succeeding in multiple highly complex startup companies that push the frontiers of technology isn't the same as buying a lottery ticket and putting it in your drawer, anon-san.

mega nepobaby who turned into the worlds biggest welfare queen. has proven time and time again he is not intelligent about anything.

>>82988187
His success rate is quite low. You're forgetting all of the other companies he started that turned out to be complete duds. He's just carrying all the losses with Tesla's success.

>>82988203
Not having a 100% success rate doesn't invalidate the intelligence, mental endurance, and hard work required for his successes, or even for his failures. Remember, many of these companies are trailblazers and it's not a zero sum game.

So the roadster will fly, china has had flying taxis for awhile now

>>82988203
Don't forget he started life as a millionaire. His father is from a long line of landowners/slavers and his mother is a model. He started halfway up the ladder and he still struggled for 20 years before anyone knew his name.

If his father hadn't funded his pre world wide web bubble-burst website zip2 in 1995 (it let online newspapers have clickable ads, ooh) he would be a weird guy with a weird name that you never heard of from an inconsequential country.

There is nothing remarkable about his intellect. If you think so, go to any university's physics or chemistry department and ask the professor there to give you a quick lesson from the fifth or six year master's curriculum .

>>82988236
Nobody is saying that he's not intelligent. He's just not a genius either. He's somewhat above average in intelligence but nothing spectacular.

>>82988274
>Just ask a university--
Yeah, I don't talk to indoctinrated retards.
It's a fact modern education has declined hard.

>>82988918
If you could spell "indoctrinated" correctly, you might be smart enough to know that there is nothing indoctrinating about physics or chemistry university degrees. But you're a high school dropout neet.

>>82988934
I don't both to type correctly on 4chan. Harping in typos is peak midwit nonsense, btw.

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>>82987780
>>82988108
If BYD wasn't tariffed to shit, you would've never heard his name and we'd all have hybrids or full EVs that cost <10k.
Link a 30+ second clip of him making an intelligent observation. You simply can't.

>>82987780
hes not smart, just another entrepreneur that got lucky

>>82988148
He didn't start the companies or make them successes.
He literally bought the right to claim he's the guy behind Tesla, for example.

>>82987804
Have you tried not making it everybody elses problem?

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>>82988274
>Don't forget he started life as a millionaire.
Yes this how you build real success starting with. 20 headstart ahead of other talents.
On the other hand there countless milioneere's sons who achieved exactly nothing.

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>>82989092
>just buy car company brah

>>82987780
He's basically just a salesman. His job is to make investor hype and convince the government to give his companies a lot of money. That's it.

>>82987800
Neither having a degree nor having a lot of money makes you smart. Anyone can get a degree in physics. They sell physics degrees at fake diploma mills anywhere. Having a lot of money just means you know someone in the government.

>>82989335
>He's basically just a salesman
Show me another salesman who can give you same tour.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Nq8HrxfSZMc

>>82987780
1. High IQ does not mean intelligent.
2. He's genuinely a genius in the field of systems engineering
3. Being good at one thing does not mean you are good at other things. IN FACT, if someone is hyperfixated on shit like cars and engines, they will almost always be absolutely retarded on shit like relationships and parenting.
4. Nothing crazy about drugs and poor sleep melting someone's brain. This dork used to be a lot more competent.

>>82987804
I'm tired of having you freaks shoved in my face every time I open my eyes.

He's just a venture capitalist with a brand. Musk is a midwit, maybe even a little stupid. His school teachers unironically classified him as "retarded." He was a sped in school, the only reason he's educated is because his family was extremely wealthy. It's well known that he doesn't actually do any work or development at any of his companies and is entirely the "ideas guy" CEO that fucks shit up until he leaves so the devs can get back to work.

Anyone that has bought in to his grift is genuinely a moron.

>>82989321
I would much rather be Hunter Biden than Elon Musk. Hunter seems content, fulfilled, and satisfied with his accomplishments. He completed his goals in corporate law and still lived out the curious and explorative lifestyle he really wanted. On the other hand, Elon is addicted to greed and ketamine. He ships his sperm across the globe because women want his child support but refuse to have sex with him. He's alone, angry, and scared.

>>82989493
This, anyone can do what he did. I gave ideas to like 10 companies just in the last year. The true geniuses of our time are great feminist authors like Hillary Clinton and Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie

>troons still malding itt 6 hours later
Die mad

>>82987804
The only thing exhausting is having to share a world with you disgusting mentally ill tranny faggot perverts

absolute midwit autist. never invented anything. just has enough business sense.

>>82989573
Anon, you're addicted to porn and have never felt the touch of a woman.

>>82989136
>>82989422
>>82989573
How would you like to be treated that way? Have you complained ever before for being rejected the way you are?

>>82989549
Anon, you get mad at people for having alternative ideas about gender to the predominating ones in society. Only one going to be mad forever is you since people with different expressions and ideas have existed in every society for thousands of years.

>>82989549
Lol the cope they are spewing is hilarious

>>82989617
Being rejected is a normal experience. That's how you naturally find your limits in this world.

>>82987804
>>82988108
Do you have any idea just how absolutely rich his parents were? They literally bought him companies as soon as he was a teenager.

>>82988108
>>82988130
He didn't create Tesla. He didn't create any of that shit. Where do people get the idea he founded it? He just got tacked on later.

>>82987780
>normies when an autist is richer, more educated, more successful, more famous, more popular and just all around better than them in every conceivable way: NUH UH HE AINT SMARTER DEN ME I SMARTER I AM AWESOME

>>82989672
How much later? Who hired Franz Von Holzhausen?

>>82987780
He's kind of annoying and I'm skeptical about his level of involvement in his companies as an engineer. But I like grok and it's been able to answer questions the other AI LLMs couldn't or wouldn't.

>>82989741
He's not an engineer. He doesn't even have engineering training. He will get pissed if you tell him he's not an engineer too (trust me I've worked with him).

>>82989606
Lol couldn't be more false. Not all of us are incel, I have an Asian woman sleeping right next to me while I shitpost
>>82989617
I've been rejected countless times. Im a manlet, my whole life women have been saying they would love to date me if I was taller. Its a part of life to be rejected. You faggots want the whole world to love you and hug you just cause you're unique or whatever. Fuck off. Be whatever you want but dont be upset if other people dont agree

>>82990034
He's not even rich either, he was never trained how to be rich. It bothers me when people say Elon Musk has any money or stocks.

>>82988130
He got lucky with spacex, that fails he wouldn't be anything right now even with tesla

>>82989512
>I would much rather be parasite of swamp establishment who produces nothing of value

>>82989493
His manufacturing management should be studied as special case.
He does exactly opposite to modern trends.
Modern trend is globalize and outsource everything. Find best from on tha market and buy from them, and be just integrator of things
https://youtube.com/watch?v=BF_P77VEPKA
Musk does opposite, maximum in house and preferably inside single mega-factory. Like he does it with spacex "metal comes in, rockets comes out".
Similar with Tesla. He started using Panasonic cells, but latter started make cells inhouse and finally developed its own cells 4680 format specially designed with EV in mind. Its bold to make a swing at firms who are leading designers and manufacturers of lithium cells, who made all these electric vehicles things viable in the first place.
Been successful when doing things opposite to modern business, this is the special case, case of Musk managerial genius.

>>82987800
He dropped out and never got a degree in physics. Elon is literally a grifter and a liar his father was plenty rich already and rats him out plenty. Look up interviews with Errol Musk, Elon was getting rides to school in a rolls royce and traveling to china and bravil as a child. He's legit a retarded drug addict sperg that bank rolls companies and cons stupid people into believing his future faking and bullshit. He's never been a genius.

>>82990791
Where do you think he and his brother Kimball got the money and investors for Zip2? And how did they hire a ceo to run it "until Elon was ready for the role"? He's just a rich kid and used his opportunities and connections to do the shit he wants and sells a narrative it's all him and his "genius". Look up the guys who actually started Tesla and partnered with Lotus to make the body. Same with SpaceX Elon just hired talent that know what they're doing and bank rolled it then he takes all the credit for himself and brags to other rich retards.

>>82987780
Intelligence doesn't mean having well supported opinions or being immune against misinformation. He might be smart in a few things, but he's a normie in public issues and a complete disaster in a few areas.
And I'm sure I am too, but his choices affect a lot of people. He should be more responsible.

>>82990767
That's not true at all. He cannibalizes corporations and industries to minimize cost and maximize profits. He just has a fuck ton of leverage and capital so he can afford to make moves that no one else can. You're worshiping a guy that's just playing with a hand full of face cards rather than doing anything unique or innovative.

>>82990608
Like Elon Musk? The greatest benefactor of government grants and handouts in American history? You realize most of Musk's businesses are funded by the American tax dollar, right? HE'S the leech.

>>82990822
He was a complete and total retard with anything to do with DOGE. He thought he's super smart and can figure out things better about a subject he has zero knowledge about than actual professionals who have worked all their life in the subject.

DOGE was objectively a complete failure and embarrassment. Except if you count one of its objectives which was to gut all government departments that were going after Musk's companies. There he succeeded.

>>82990880
DOGE was very much just a snatch and grab for Elon. Anyone who can't see that is genuinely very stupid. DOGE still exists as a direct hand for the White House making micromanaging cabinet members and administrators easier. It did not and does not accomplish anything related to the lie that was sold during the campaign, which was a fucking stupid lie anyway. It's more impressive that they convinced the working poor that they want government organizations, that directly benefit them more than any other group, completely gutted.

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>>82990851
>The greatest benefactor of government grants and handouts in American history
Government asked for things and he delivered these things.
Without Musk there would be no American piloted space program. Who would be delivering cargo and astronauts to the ISS? Boeing?
>*loud laugh*
Boeing took these money for space ship too. And delivered what?

Also SpaceX Starlink revenue is $12 billions when entir NAS budget is $25 billions. Musk turned space into profitable business while completely overturning launch market and launch vehicles design.

>>82990880
DOGE was a blazing success. See how trannies are seething. Best acknowledgement it's working.

>>82987780
I like new twitter and grok
Hes not worthy of my praise or hate otherwise

>>82991024
How much of that profiting and revenue returns to the US government? Quit shilling for a man who wouldn't even blink if you found out you died.

>>82990822
Intelligence means often having the right opinions out of pure intuition

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>>82991089
>t. europoor

>>82991148
You didn't even answer my question. How stupid can you be?

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>>82991182
Imagine all these trannies who shilled for Putin and China space programs
>communism is le space exploration
Only to be completely bulldozed by SpaceX. Commies losing over their favorite pet subject.

>>82991204
oh it's actually a chat bot I'm dumb for not picking up on that

>>82988947
>If BYD wasn't tariffed to shit, you would've never heard his name and we'd all have hybrids or full EVs that cost <10k.

CHINA NUMBA WAN!!!

KYS your people are thieves

>>82991034
It was a blazing success at gutting the departments that were investigating Musk for crimes. So he got off scot-free for all his corruption.

>>82991255
All US government departments deserve to be gutted and rebuild from a clean sheet. DOGE made excellent exscuse for the case.

>>82989627
>n-no y-you
Classic.

So it's true, this thread is a bunch of seething trannies from /leftypol/ trying to astroturf. Sucks that ywnbaw.

>>82991354
Not him, but it's strange that you think that there are hoards of evil trannies and gays "astroturfing" when they're an extremely small portion of the population and people like you with your beliefs outright dominate global order. How do you manage to both be the most common and generic type of person AND believe that you're a victim of discrimination or prejudice?

>>82991409
>when they're an extremely small portion of the population
But they are 50% of reddit and discord moderation teams.

>>82991423
Are you sure about that? How do you know that is the case? How do you know that 4chan mods are different? If that were the case, why does it matter? Just use a different website. Gay and trans people do not hold much administrative power in any industry or field whatsoever.

>>82991409
>implying there need to be hordes of them
>muh discrimination
>muh prejudice
You really don't realize how obvious and out of place you faggots are

>>82987780
The only point I'll concede Elmo is that considering how much he was bullied and received no love as a child, I understand why he's such a cringy manchild looking in the worst places for affection.

>>82991471
I accept your concession. Thank you for your time.

>>82991090
Disagreed, but I also agree that he's not extremely intelligent
>>82991034
people seething doesn't really mean something is good if what those people are seeting about also benefits you. You're right in the sense that DOGE did what it was supposed to: steal from the government.

>>82989692
>more famous,
yes
>more popular
No, at this point he's only popular with Indians.

He was never popular with leftists, at most he was a rich democrat's curiosity since he was the face of early EVs in America but then decided to be on twitter for 16 hours a day talking about the woke mind virus.

The thing with the thai rescue divers also came out of nowhere and was seen as extremely weird borderline retarded behavior by most people

Of course, that anti-woke moment he had in turn made him popular with the anti-woke crowd but then he decided to shit the bed with them by dying on the hill that America needs a billion indians every year to win at AI.

Even that Chinese impersonator Yilong Ma I haven't seen in years.

Cybertruck was a complete failure, and Teslas in general became worse off than EV competitors in America but also the rest of the world.