Tell me about your experiences getting cheated on or being the homewrecker (or cheating if you're a fembot)
>>82988755all my girlfriends cheated. My sister cheated on her husband. My friends g/f made it known she wanted to cheat with me. The neighbors wife made it known she wanted to cheat with me. So girls to me are just a bunch of cheating cheaters. It's just a matter of time really.
>>82988763How are you a chad and a cuck at the same time?
>>82988764>How are you a chad and a cuck at the same time?autism
>>82988755I will always wonder how people can sit down and draw these comics for hours. At what point is it just not worth the cost of your soul.
>>82988755i had my online (never met irl) ex cheat on me with another girl. he made it blatantly obvious to everyone in our little server, but i was stupid. mutual friend sent me screenshots where he admitted to e-dating the only other girl in the server. he denied it all to me and never apologised and always blamed me for our friends hating him, but i stayed. he started cheating on me again about a year later. both happened around the times of our first and second anniversary. left me hanging just to go have e-sex with bpd whores. i ended up leaving him. i still feel sad
>>82988755my exbf was streaming his screen and i saw his exgf and old talking stage in his dm's, with one of the message previews being obviously flirtatious. I tried talking to him about it a few days later and he denied it even though i'd obviously seen it and we broke up shortly after. in b4 **'was 6'4 chad btw** . he was 5'10 and we were looksmatch
>>82988763Had a gf who was mentally unwell. She wanted to break up to reduce psychological pressure on herself even though I was supportive (she had health problems and felt like a bad gf because of it). Being supportive, I went along with it, with the intention to still communicate with her / effectively be with her since things wouldn't really change much (we were LDR at the time).She shortly developed a crush on another guy, imploded our relationship / friendship (on her end, I didn't hold things against her because she was going through some shit at the time and never actually did anything w/ him).That's about as close as I got.Lads and ladies take note:Two meds that WILL change you, personality wise without you realizing it: antidepressants and birth control.
>>82988785Once again, female selection kek.
>>82988771don't worry she was kidding. she only fucks the bull because she loves her bf so much.
>>82988800i was young and stupid as it was my first long relationship, even if it was online. i didnt know what to really do. i was scared id never have anything else, no one would "accept me" so if i didnt take this id be alone forever
>>82988833Online relationships are never real. Life lesson.
>>82988833When I went to Uni a girl was in our class that was the fujoshi stereotype. 19, skinny messy hair, unironed clothes she picked up off the floor, she could only tell me about the hotties in the FF game. Within a week she was surrounded by dudes. Another girl who was in the class told me years later she ran through half the guys in the course. All it takes is some self confidence for girls and they become pornstars
>>82988785>online relationships lol thats not even training wheels tier. That person was literally pixels on a screen. Get over it and find a nice man irl
>>82988845it was real to me, i dont care>>82988858>training wheels tierrelationships shouldnt be treated that way. a relationship is still a relationship, if youre using someone as "practice" you are utterly subhuman>>82988853thats really gross
>>82988894>thats really grosswhy? women don't tell men their sexual history anyway. The only time you hear about it is when one woman wants to make another look like a whore for status
>>82988910why isnt it? idk, its just gross
The only cuckolding here is terasu_mc of his readers. He's so slow, lazy, and comes with incurable amounts of excuses of why he isn't producing. His Korean contemporaries are way way more productive (see laliberte, ratatatat74 , etc.)
>>82988894Except it wasn't real, at all, obviously.
Homewrecker sounds right. Had kids when I was young and dumb because I believed the older married man really loved me. Would get hit on by single dads and "single" dads of their schoolmates a lot, especially in the early years, and slept with a few. Still had that kind of wannabe punk look at the time and they liked it I guess. Something different from their wives. On some level you kind of like it because "he's risking his entire life just so he can go down on me" or whatever. It makes you feel good, especially if you've always had low self-esteem.
>>82988894Thats not a relationship. Relationship is sex and dates irl. Internet does not count. You couldnt even smell his pheromones how do you know you like him?
>>82989091many people have relationships irl without sex and dates. many people go on dates and have sex without being in a relationship. sex and dates dont define a relationship. "love" doesnt mean you go on dates and have sex, you dont need those things to experience love. why do crushs exist if love is nothing more than sex or dates, hm?that being said i dont really care what others think of online relationships. it is the only way i will date
>>82989118>many people have relationships irl without sex and dates.Ya, retards>many people go on dates and have sex without being in a relationshipSo a situationship, again, retards>sex and dates dont define a relationship.So what does? Saying I wuv you so much uwu over discord?>why do crushs exist if love is nothing more than sex or dates, hm?Crushes past a certain age are, again, for retards. You either make a move or you dont, no reason to like someone who may or may not like you back.>that being said i dont really care what others think of online relationships. it is the only way i will datethen your past experience will just keep repeating over and over. Theres no possible way those people are reliable. Ive never done online before but texting for me feels like pulling teeth, even when I know Im getting sex later. To each their own I guess.Sex is so much fun I genuinely have no idea how you can just forgo it in a relationship. Girlfriend sex is really one of the best things on the planet. Dates are a ton of fun too. You sound fat and/or like your hormones are out of whack. Take an iron pill and go outside.
>>82989065People on r9k have kids? what the fuck, how old even are you guys?
ok a couple years ago i accidentally made a married guy fall in love with me and conditioned him to be into loli and toddlercon hentai when he wasn't before bcuz my fetish is making men think they're peds and he stopped fucking his wife and exclusively jerked off to hentai i fed him it was pretty pavlovian and evil and fucked up. we only talked for a few months
>>82989273Some of us do, yeah.>how old even are you guys?Late 30s. Been on 4chan since I was like 14-15. Was just shy of 19 when my kids were born.
>>82989304this is why I don't talk to people anymore
>>82989307oh wow, you're pretty cool then femanon, guess i'm in the younger demographic of r9k since i'm 19
>>82989322>pretty coolThanks, nice to hear when you get older. Used to be a lot cooler, now I mostly just work, do parent stuff, and read about my hobbies (on 4chan and elsewhere). A bit dull but comfortable.
>>82989339I mean like, isn't that what being cool is all about? you've experienced life, now you're wise and calmed down, not really sure why i suck up so much about this type of person, probably because i'm young and autistic idk
>>82989304Dude why are women like this
>>82988755Does it count if it's a female relative "cucking" you and although they aren't your gf, it feels like they're emasculating and betraying you?
>>82989347I don't really know what cool is about honestly. I know I'm not really hip to new stuff anymore (as my kids like to remind me) but I don't really care, and I guess that's cool in its own way. >now you're wise and calmed downTrue. Lends itself to surprising people. I always get a kick out of the younger generation expecting me to listen to polka or church hymns or whatever they think moms listen to in the car.
>>82989255im gonna ignore everything else cause im too tired for that garbage>Sex is so much fun I genuinely have no idea how you can just forgo it in a relationshipsex isnt important to me. i hold other forms of physical intimacy in higher regard, tho i have not experienced any of them. mental intimacy, i.e. sharing ideas, interests, shit like that and flirtation are infinitely better to me (at least as an autist) than the idea of sex.>You sound fat and/or like your hormones are out of whack. Take an iron pill and go outsideim neither. i am lacking iron and vitamin d but i dont think thatd change anything. also>telling people to go outside on r9k and having sex and gfsok normie
>>82988845>>82988858>>82989091Do people with the "online relationships aren't real" mindset not consider it cheating if their irl gf/wife gets an ebf then? Sending him lewd pics, flirting, playing games together, watching stuff together, talking for hours, spending all their time together etc but never actually meeting irl. If that is considered cheating, then you have to admit that to an extent even you believe online relationships are real. If they're not real then it's not cheating.
>>82989402I mean like, i think older people that still remember what it's like to be younger are cool in general, but being confident to just be yourself and having knowledge of what life is actually like is very fucking cool imo
>>82989435Then guys are having a real relationship with the OF girl thats actually a bot
Never been cheated on but I did have a middle school crush that made me develop a cuck fetish
>>82988755I had a girlfriend and we agreed to wait till marriage and we were very happy but then she cheated on me and let another man take her virginity. I still miss her sometimes I think I should have just forgiven her
>>82989439I guess it helps that I'm younger than average for someone with nearly grown kids. I'm very much the cool aunt, too. >being confident to just be yourself and having knowledge of what life is actually like is very fucking cool imoThat's true too. Plus eventually you just realize that even the worst moments of your life are just blips on everyone else's radar, and you stop having the energy to do everything that needs doing while also caring what people think.
>>82989435Its cheating in the sense that paying cam girls is considered cheating, or hiring a prostitute. Obviously a dealbreaker for most relationships, still doesnt make it a real relationship.>>82989431> sex isnt important to me. i hold other forms of physical intimacy in higher regard, tho i have not experienced any of them. mental intimacy, i.e. sharing ideas, interests, shit like that and flirtation are infinitely better to me (at least as an autist) than the idea of sex.You can have all that in an irl relationship with the added benefit of good chemicals firing in your brain from being close to another person you like. What youre doing is treating people and relationships like fast food, this is like a guy coming here and saying that gooning to porno is a real relationship. At least gooners are realistic in how pathetic they are. Its okay to have cringe pathetic interactions to rid yourself of lust just dont act like its a real thing with stakes.
>>82988769>he thinks chad doesn't get cucked
>>82989513Was this you/orig
>>82989531>What youre doing is treating people and relationships like fast foodbeing loyal and loving to someone for 2 years is equivalent to fast food?>Its okay to have cringe pathetic interactions to rid yourself of lustmy online interactions and my relationship were and have never been sexual. i was never sexual with my ex over the course of 2 years. i dont do sexting or shit like that. flirtation can be romantic. online relationships can turn into irl ones
>>82989539No that's not me. Sometimes i wish she just never told me and I could have lived in blissful ignorance and stayed happy thinking I took her virginity on our wedding night
>>82989431>here's how I rank a bunch of things I've never experienced
>>82989532>>he thinks chad doesn't get cuckedthe girl cheats on a chad with another chad! As the marketing research said, women are not brand loyal, and will switch brands if she think she can get a better deal.
>>82989602normalfags really need to get off this board man. youre on r9k. theres khhvs here, we can have opinions on these things, just like low iq tards can vote
>>82989516I bet you're a great friend femanon, wish i had friends like you, hope you have a good life
>>82989435>someone else keeping my wife entertained and getting her pussy wet so that I (not him) can fuck it.If I'm not getting cucked, it's not cheating. I'm the one cumming inside of her, not him.
>>82989614>just like low iq tards can voteDon't fucking remind me. Universal suffrage was a mistake.
>>82989622I don't really have friends, but I appreciate it. Take it easy
>>82989669>I don't really have friendsThis is the most obvious no ever, but if you want a friend or something i'd be down
>>82989565> being loyal and loving to someone for 2 years is equivalent to fast food?You can eat fast food everyday, doesnt make it into fine dining if you do it for long enough. Also you cannot love pixels on a screen, nor be loyal to them. >online relationships can turn into irl onesBut it clearly didnt, so really you wasted 2 years on a discord daddy. You seem very young and naive, I hope some nice man gives you a brain melting orgasm one day, and you realize theres more to life than discord flirting.
>>82989513ufff thats the ultimate cuck, you will never be the first one even though she promised you will be. She just through it away, for some random, she barely knows. that must have hurt so much...
>>82989704theres a real person behind the screen, who i video called with and talked to his family. you shouldnt treat REAL people as nothing more than pixels. every anon on this board (except the ai bots) are real people behind the screen at the end of the day.>But it clearly didntbut it can, if you meet someone actually dedicated to it who sees the person talking to them as a real person.>I hope some nice man gives you a brain melting orgasm one daynot only is that utterly disgusting but unless i meet said person online and theyre actually a good person, i will never touch a man willingly, nor let one touch me
>>82988755My first GF had three "incidents" which could be considered cheating. I only count the third one.>Incident 1: Got molested at a party by a dyke and felt guilty about it>Incident 2: Started a fake "lesbian" relationship with a Chinese Trap. Panicked when the femboy kissed her and told me everything. Picked me over him in a heartbeat when I told her to choose>Incident 3: Kissed her "gay" best friend. I forgave her because I was sure I'd be single forever if we broke up. We ended up going on "break" because she didn't have the heart to dump me properly and started dating him before we finally ended it.She ended up dropping out of school and starting a family with him.Second GF didn't cheat on me, but she did abruptly end the relationship and ghost me.My third GF admitted to cheating on me six times during our break up, but I can only confirm two:>While self-medicating her anxiety when her pills stopped working, she ran out of money and opened her legs to her dealer for free weed>Got a job at a radio station in another town. Stayed with her grandmother 4 days a week and openly cheated on me when she wasn't at work (flaunted it on social media where my family could see, too)That was one of those rare non-reciprocal abusive relationships where the woman was the abuser. It took me two years of thinking I was too emotionally stunted to have another girlfriend before I learned what patterns of behavior abusers use to control their victims and it all became clear. Despite all this, I really miss her pussycat. I would have kept her cat if I could. She was a near-feral thing, but became a cuddly little angel when my GF was out of town.
>>82989539this is a classic, too bad he got brainwashed by redditor redpillers when the truth is clearly the blackpill and he should have become a volcel
>>82989780look i know you're autistic but everyone except you is going to find a world of difference between edating a random loser you'll never meet on discord, and being in a in-person relationship and trying to find someone else online. anyway you need psychiatric help
>>82989855>Second GF didn't cheat on me, but she did abruptly end the relationship and ghost me.monkeybranched bro, you just never found out about it
Late 30s here. Hipster party scene veteran. I have seen some things. Most failed relationships, which are most relationships, involve some level of infidelity. Most young men and women don't end things until they realize someone better might be available, so there's at least flirting going on. A lot of people get drunk and sleep with someone else too force a relationship they are in to end when they can't find the willpower in themselves to keep the other person away. Once I made out with a woman at a bar and then found out she was on her bachelorette party. I was going but it disturbed me and things stopped there. The girl I dated when I was 21-23 was absolutely fucking other guys during our frequent 2-3 day break ups, and probably when were together, and definitely when she left me for her simp friend who lived in another state (who she ended up marrying). Despite leaving me she said "you are the hottest guy I've ever been with" and trying to fuck me one last time. I didn't because I actually wanted them both to have an untainted marriage and thought they both were so shitty then staying married would be better revenge. I dated a really hot chick after that who told me right away that she had been fucking a 50 year old millionaire artist for most of her 20s. Which made her extended "work trip" to Italy for three weeks very suspicious. If she wasnt fucking him she must have been fucking her boss. The sex was so good though. We broke up after she got back when she laughed at me for being sad that my cat died. She was so crazy I'm not actually sure if she cheated.My ex wife I won't even discuss, too painful. I was grey area emotional infidelity and lies. Possibly physical industry. But it made it so I couldn't trust her and the relationship was destroyed. The connecting feature of all of these relationships is the women aren't smart. I've noticed the more intelligent the woman, the less likely she is to cheat. Many more stories. So much cheating
>>82989855>non-reciprocal abusive relationships where the woman was the abuser.>rare
>>82989903obviously theres a fucking difference im trying to argue my point that e-dating can work and does count as real because there are 2 real people involved in it. jesus man>anyway you need psychiatric helpyou might wanna get off here because youll be saying that to just about everyone, sexhaver normalfag
>>82989539followup to this is great tohttps://rareddit.com/r/relationships/comments/3fgo8j/well_some_other_guy_just_took_my_18_m_gf_now_ex_i/
>>82989970Anon if it helps I get you. I don't like that anon or his ideas on relationships. He will never understand people like us, what we desire or what we need. He can only think from his own narrow world view. Everyone must follow how HE thinks relationships should work and everyone must follow HIS way of living. Normalfags love coming to r9k and then get surprised when anons on r9k act like they're on r9k kek what do these people expect. They will never get it, and they don't want to get it. They just want you to bend to their worldview and do what they want. How dare you think differently.
>>82989902what would you say is the real truth here?
>>82990058Alright man, and my sexdoll and 4K surround sound porn set up with cam girls I donate to is totally a relationship replacement. People just dont understand but it fulfills me.
>>82990074 because fucking plastic and paying whores is the same as talking to a real person every day and having a connection with said real person over the phoneyou normalfags and your fucking mental gymnastics are insane. please for the love of god fuck off
>>82989970>>82990096except no it doesn't work sowwy :( it's fucking edating and it's pathetic. nothing online is actually real and you WILL seethe at me about it :)>>82990058geg this has pasta potential. love how robots act like you're some persecuted free thinkers and not just those who failed at life. have you considered i'm correct because that's what the world has decided is correct?
>>82990096Ya and talking to a person over the phone that youve never met is the same thing as talking to someone irl. This is how ridiculous you sound.
I don't want to be a homewrecker. I just want to hook up with older guys who appreciate having sex when their wives won't. No strings attached. Yes, I have daddy issues, but if I can sort of address them with these men and they can have some fun time with me, what's the problem?
>>82989916I think she was in a competition with her friend to see who could get a boyfriend first. She won, but clearly had no idea what she was doing. I was her first boyfriend and she put up no barriers for physical contact. A kiss on our first date turned into making out and me "accidentally" touching her boob just to see if she'd let me. She did.After our first date, she was non-communicative until she was ready for our second date two weeks later. I thought the date was going very well until she blurted out something about feeling like she was leading me on and refused to speak to me ever again. Literally. Those were the last words she ever spoke in my presence and she ghosted me afterwards.
>>82990152this but older women with fat or bald husbands
I cheated on my boyfriend three times but I never told him and he'll probably never fund out. I feel very guilty about it
I don't know if this story quite fits>be at a bar>guy sits next to me offers to buy me a drink>kind of cute>we talk for a while>says he just got out of a bad relationship>he asks me if I want to come over to his place>I have no problem being a rebound>follow him back to his apartment>things in disorder>someone has obviously just moved out>just head to the bedroom and start having sex>ride him until he cums>near a noise to my left as he's still moaning>see an eye and half a face looking out from the closet>yelp and shoot up off the bed like a spring>hurt myself falling off the bed>he pulls a gun from somewhere>closet opens up and a woman steps out with her hands up>turns out to be his ex>shorts and panties around her thighs>she had been schlicking to us>what the fucking fuck>they start arguing>she'd snuck in back and had to hide when we came back>unlocked a cuck kink watching us fuck>I speedrun gathering my things>run out half dressed>mfw driving home to have the coldest shower everI'm not sure what it makes me but I feel bad about it whenever it comes to mind.
>>82990512include me in the hecking screenshot redditbros!!!!!!!!!!kys
>>82990512If this is real can you give me tips on riding a guy. My bf's ex was also a female cuck, he didn't ever cuck her though, she died from cancer.
>>82990366I did the same to my gf, she found out about the last one and I broke up with her but I had done it 4 previous times during the relationship.
>>82988764there's no such thing as chad, only guys women cheat on less often.
>>82988755My gf made it entirely clear that she wanted me to be a cuck from the start and I accepted it. Not sure if that's cheating. She fucked a few guys with my knowledge.
Didn't try to be one at all. Girl hit me up one night to pick her up since she was getting bored with friends at a bar or club. Did that and brought her to my place and then we fucked. She begged for me to not use protection. After we were done she spilled out she was already seeing a guy and rationalized in her head somehow she didn't cheat on him.If you're a man out there you have no chance. You'll be strung along into another woman's problems without knowing, not only that if you're the guy that has the cheating girlfriend her friends will back her up saying she was with them the whole time. Just have to accept the fact that women are cheaters.
>>82990512thats kinda hot, would love to be the guy. Your ex watching while you fuck a other girl
In high school, I rejected the first girl that wanted to be my gf since I had a crush on her friend. Eventually her friends (including my crush) bullied me into dating her. My crush still flirted with me though, so we broke up because of that reason and I started dating her crush. Big mistake.A year later she joins this tutoring center where she meets a guy. She tells me about hanging out with him to make me jealous and after a month or two of this I break it off with her.I don't date again until the first year of college. The first summer we go work in different places and she makes out with a guy while drunk. I tell her I want to break it off, but she convinces me that he somehow took advantage of her. When we come back, she wants to break it off, but I was a simp so I convince her to stay.Fast forward a year later, I get depressed because I was fired from the job I was working over the summer with her and she decides to break-up again. I just signed a lease on the new place and have to stay there with her. Then she starts dating my roommate. I'm too clueless because of the depression to notice, but she was fucking my roommate before breaking up with me.The thing is we never had sex to completion between the two of us. I never finished. She said she had some sexual trauma so she always stopped me. We tried like 2-4 times in the 2 years we were together. But this new guy she doesn't mind having sex with. The entire 9 months that I had to stay in the place was hell for me. I think I snapped hard once and after that I just stopped communicating with anyone until I moved.The other thing that both my 2nd and 3rd gfs did were always talk about being alpha widowed by their ex. Constantly putting them up, basically teasing me that I could never compete. I got into RP after that and realized that I'm just a loser and shouldn't really consider dating. It's been six-seven years since then and honestly I'm happier not having to think about women.
>>82988755Would it count as cheating if I never actually dated her, but just had a crush on her? I'm currently in Europe, and it's quite common here to see people of African descent. I live in an area with a lot of diversity, and I had a crush on this beautiful Black girl. But one day, this extremely tall, skinny white guy started dating her they're clearly a couple now. He's an arrogant jerk, always touching her ass and kissing her in public.Honestly, I know people can date whoever they want, but I was angry. I just assumed she might prefer someone of her same race and religion, not someone degenerate like him, who cheated on multiple girls and was even found having fucking them in the bathroom.I fucking hate women and chads
>>82990896>six-seven
>>82988755I catfished my HS bully's husband and blackmailed him to having an affair. All to get back at her
>>82989532>>82990772Honestly, this idea is ancient. If you read Astolfo's story, he literally sets out to seduce and fuck every woman in Europe just to prove they're all unfaithful to his friend, and in the end, he actually succeeds.
>>82990896>The other thing that both my 2nd and 3rd gfs did were always talk about being alpha widowed by their ex. Constantly putting them up, basically teasing me that I could never competeWhat exactly did they say? That's very weird and makes me think you were imagining it
my first and only gf was my sister's friend and our neighbor, we dated during hs for almost 4 years (but we went to different schools). long story short i found out she was basically a school slut type and cheated with multiple of her classmates. i broke up with her but i kinda regret it since i cant get a new gf and im getting old. from what i heard she also fucked her way through college but i still think i should have stayed together with her. too bad i had some dignity back then. especially now that im more knowledgeable about modern women and know that all of them cheat and lie, not to mention even if i could get a new gf she would be just as used up as my ex
>>82988755>seeing girl in hometown while im in college>she talks about some new guy a lot>she brings him to the party i invited her to>play pong WITH HER against him>sink every shot>he starts bouncing the ball like a nigger>win anyways>makeout with tongue and grope her ass and tits right there>look up and smirk>manletbro is literally crying>take her on the deck and keep doing this until he he marches in and drags her out (he was her ride home so she couldnt say no)when a bitch cheats on you reestablish dominance. she never fucked with him again after that. learn about female psychology
>>82991374cool fanfiction bro drop the wattpad link
>>82991209The first one would just talk about this guy that used to live in a slum basically and how he would just be all over her anytime they were together. She grew up on shitty romance movies from our country though so it's typical of women to try to make other men jealous by telling them of old romances.The second one definitely implied she was alpha widowed though. She used to say how she would stalk the guy for miles and about their dates. Also said the only reason she wasn't with him was because he was infatuated with someone else, but they were still close as friends. We were an ocean away, so my simp brain didn't think much of it then. This didn't stop for the entire time we were dating. God, I was such a blue pilled faggot.
>>82989539>>82990020>believing obvious creative writing from redditPlease go back.
>>82991227>im more knowledgeable about modern women and know that all of them cheat They don't all cheat. This is the most insane belief. How many women believe that all men cheat? Many. Do you, as a man, actually cheat? And are even capable of it? I just most of you aren't. It's a normie problem. And le online BPD quirky gurl .. SHE IS A NORMIE. To be normie is to be materialistic, selfish, and driven by status. You know there is a different kind of person and you know they exist. I had this debate with my therapist for years. He was old. 70 something. He swore up and down to me YES THERE ARE WOMEN THAT DON'T CHEAT, I'VE HAD HUNDREDS OF THEM AS CLIENTS FOR DECADES AT A TIME. There are really special women out there who earnestly will love you so deeply you'll have a partner for life. Women especially are naturally monogamous and tend to cling to a man and only want him. They are emotional creatures and their emotions dictate how they feel about you. Most women even need time to develop attraction to non handsome men, but they they develop it, it's real. It's actually real. They want a partner to feel safe and secure with. They are capable of love that is almost incomprehensible to us as men. Holding the belief that they all cheat is a self-fulfilling cognitive distortion.If you don't open up and trust a woman you will drive her away. Find a girl. TELL HER ABOUT YOUR PAST AND YOUR TRUST ISSUES. Then SEE IF SHE TAKES STEPS TO DEVELOP TRUST WITH YOU. You can have what you want but you need to actually build trust from the start or you are going to never maintain a healthy relationship. You have to take the risk
>>82991418That's fucking terrible man. The first one is debatable.. like maybe he wasn't alpha but women love to be desired. Maybe she thought you were a better guy but was wondering why you weren't all over her like he was. He probably knew he could never do better. The second guy, yeah that sounds like it. There's not your fault but it's good you left. Just keep in mind that you also landed these two women so you are desirable yourself.
>>82991496Eh idk. I'm on the wrong side of 20 now, I'm in gradschool and haven't ever worked a real job, so don't have enough savings. Maybe I'll be 32-33 before I have enough to even feel stable. But even then I will always look back on what I missed out on. I didn't help myself being skinny fat and introverted. I'm less skinny fat now, but I'm still too timid.It doesn't help that I haven't been in my country for an extended period for over 8 years now, so my options are very limited. I don't date for the short-term so I don't see wasting someone else's time when I know where I want to be in the future. There's just a storm of factors which means I probably won't date anyone for another 3 years after which it will be too late since I'll have missed out on a lot of romantic growth.I could always get arrange married like my mother wants, but the last time I talked to her she basically wanted me to a beta bux for the rest of my life. Her exact words were "As long as you give half of your salary to your wife, that'll keep her happy". When my own mother thinks that, it's hard to consider yourself anything else than the backup simp.
I hook up with a guy from work sometimes and we both have partners
