>Chuds whine for years about liberals imposing censorship>Righttoids get into power and actually enforce draconian censorship laws
>>83126196Both sides want to fuck you, moron.
They don't want you to see the Bubba Blowjob video.
Seems like it was always an inevitability. Anyways...Sacrifice a whore to Great Saturn. Receive a fully functional AI Loli sexbot with an artificial womb as a reward.
>>83126196real talk, what happens if they do make an active effort to ban/prosecute VPNs and the like? What does the internet look like in a week to a month?
>>83126260Now hold on, Great Saturn has to have better offerings than just AI Loli sexbot right? I wanna ride in my neighborhood in style.
>>83126196i downloaded all my porn anyway. i'm more mad about the effects of censorship on hollywood and the media i consume
>>83126196this is actually a good thing :)
>>83126196Good thing I'm not a chud thenBad thing that both sides want to ban my anime
>>83126196can they do anything about tor?foreign users of vpns?
>>83126348They will never leave you alone anon
>>83126373depends how they enforce it. You could see them range ban/prosecute IPs of VPN companies that allow access to the US from other countries. Tor is a boogie man they can use so I imagine they let it cook along as they were pinching out the other contributors to help create their blackswan event where nations could then black out each other and we have web services restricted to certain countries and locations. With the tariff madness already in place their is little room to argue a "downside" of every country firewalling each other.
it's always like this >muh 2 amendment muh guns guns!!!>obviously police needs this military equipmen!! how else are the supposed to control people who might have guns?!!!
>>83126257>one wants to destroy american commerce>take away freedom of speech>enforce religious laws>sell large swaths of public land to megacorps>destroy our foreign relations>disregard the constitution at every turn>pack the supreme court to eliminate the essential checks and balances of the US government>defend and protect participants of the largest known pedophilia trafficking ring of the last century>established brownshirts who are violenting kidnapping citizens since day one>raided the US capitol because they lost an electionthe other side>is a bit incompetent and wants you to be nicer to black peopleSEEEE?E?E?!?!?!?!? THEY'RE THE SAME!!! LOOK THEY'RE THE SAME!!?!?!!!!!!!!
>>83127350>wants you to be nicer to black humanoids I'm sorry guys but I prefer society to crumble and collapse before I agree to these terms, they are simply unacceptable to me. I'll tolerate Chinese occupation and dictatorship before im forced to accept association with niggers, fuck you I wil die on this hill.
>>83127350More evidence that commies should be swinging from ropes.
>>83127350Didn't the other side ban the sitting president from every big tech platform for the last 2 weeks of his administration?Didn't they suppress the Hunter Biden laptop story before the election which was true as russian disinfo?Didn't they censor people for saying stuff about Covid that later turned out to be true, and promote messages that later turned out to be lies? (Like 2 weeks to flatten the curve was a lie, if you get vaccinated you can't catch covid and you can't spread covid were lies)
>>83128215no lmao you're stupid as hellfell for it three times lmao
>>83128256So then what really happened?
>>83128215>private corporations banned trump from their platforms for breaking TOS, no one gave a fuck that hunter biden was a drug addict because he wasn't the sitting president, and people didn't buy in to conspiracy theories/lack of education about covid (that were not proven to be true) therefore trump has the right to destroy america both politically and economically, he is exonerated for raping minors, and his election fraud case is irrelevant holy shit conservatives really are doing everything they can to make sure that their unpopular and regressive ideology dies before the decade is over
>>83126196How are they even going to enforce such a ban? This is like attempting to ban torrenting. It's not going to work. Another case of dumb, tech-illiterate boomers trying to ban shit they have no clue about.
>>83126196>some wisconsin lawmakers are proposing to make porn websites somehow ban vpn users from wisconsin>there's a michigan version that's practically dead in the water in the state legislature>somehow it's brumpf's faultman you leftypol retards are really reaching
>>83126196Conservatives always lie to trick their midwit voter base into supporting them.Racist morons have it coming.Read Chomsky retards
>>83128498They're not midwits. They're illiterate retards who shouldn't be allowed to vote.
>>83128408The state holds the legal monopoly on violence. Oligarchs control the major centers of power through corporations and the wealth they use to buy politicians. If they truly want they can remove VPN capabilities from all popular operating systems.Want to circumvent that ban by using Linux? Nice try, they made having that installed illegal in 2029. You are now facing terrorism charges and will spend the better part of a decade in prison.Chuds voted for this btw
>>83128263They continue to huff copium and push whatever false narrative social media tells them too
>>83128543>If they truly want they can remove VPN capabilities from all popular operating systems.That won't even do anything. Most VPNs offer their own apps you can install. I'm not even aware of Windows having a built-in VPN setting, I just use apps from VPN providers.>they made having that installed illegal in 2029.This is also not going to work at all. People will just make Linux distros aimed at circumventing the ban and faking their identity to appear to be the OS the state wants you to use.Again, these are old fucks who need help installing apps on their iPhones thinking you can just "ban" things in the tech space. Fortunately for everyone, it doesn't work that way.Same with chat control in Europe..."let's just ban encryption"...kek.
>>83128386So why is dem approval that is in the tank?
>>83128543calm your tits. This law is fully unconstitutional and it's not a die-hard religious issue like abortion was. Banning linux? How are you gonna ban linux when literally every tech company ever runs all of their web services and servers on it?
>>83128543It seems like Covid was the dog wagging the tail. The dog was government and the tail was business. Government decided who was essential and allowed to work, and who was non-essential and forbidden from workingGovernment decided how many feet you were allowed to stand or sit apart from your coworkers or strangers. Government could decide to ban the sale of products arbitrarily like seeds.https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicksibilla/2020/04/16/michigan-bans-many-stores-from-selling-seeds-home-gardening-supplies-calls-them-not-necessary/They made it illegal to sit in your car and listen to a church servicehttps://www.chvnradio.com/articles/church-members-receive-500-fine-for-attending-church-from-their-cars>Members of a church in Mississippi each received a $500 fine for sitting in their cars in a parking lot while listening to their church's sermon on the radio Wednesday.https://www.cbsnews.com/news/lincoln-county-oregon-exempts-people-of-color-from-mandatory-coronavirus-mask-policy/They didn't enforce the rules evenly.How can you say "Banks billionaires and corporations can do whatever they want" after we lived through years of the government dictating every aspect of our lives?
>>83128607ope there's the strawmanconservitards really can't have a good faith discussion, huhlet me guess, you got another misdirection one-liner someone else taught you lined up don't you
>>83128637This poster is a bot, they are not a real human being. I'm not kidding, this is a chat bot. They post these exact takes and images over and over again 24/7. Do not reply to this bot. They are not a human.
>>83128649I just had a very different experience of covid than you didhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olrO0RDu8SY
>>83128649I've seen them around before. Wonder how they feel about tariffs now? They claimed to be a pro tariff libertarian lmfao
>>83128662They don't feel anything because it's unironically a chat bot. That's why its replies always seem somewhat off-topic and never actually addresses what anyone posts. It is clearly prompted to spread misinformation about covid, despite it being five years ago and Trump's crisis. It's the dead internet theory in action.
>>83128498Didn't Chomsky had relations with Epstein?>>83128386You are the one doing the "because Trump did it somehow means that we didn't too", just look at UK and the EU for example, or they are all right wing too?>t. whataboutismThis whole thread is whataboutism. 4chan sucks at arguing and loves to be smug and obnoxious.
>>83128685most self aware conservitard
>>83128697>conservitard>if you don't attack my retard opposition you are the retardI really want to drone bomb you
>>83128712abloo abloo no one respects your conspiracy theories and misinformation abloo abloo you're being treated the way you deserve abloo ablooconservitards like you should be laughed out of every room you dare to show your ugly face in
>>83128685Conservatives dodge responsibility worse than women and blacks.
>>83128746MAGAtards are white niggers. Civilized and intelligent whites hate Trump. Low IQ apes voted for the most niggerish president we've ever had three times.
>>83128685>picrel: AI chat bot
>>83128682Everyone left wingers don't like is a russian botEveryone right winger don't like is a jew or a jewish shillThought terminating cliches
>>83128697I thought the guy being told to read chomsky and talking about how conservatives lie and trick their voters, being shown evidence that Chomsky was actually a client of Epstein and owed him favors was hilarious
>>83128784>>83128792oof here comes the desperate false flaggingwhich r/conservative tactic do you have next?
>>83128803At least you're calling me a redditor instead of a russianYou're improving
>>83128724>>83128746https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3O1u-vlzvrMhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/Wx9tA3ySTm8I can bring cases on them being shitty I don't care. You on the other side sees that your opposition being comprised of retards somehow exempts you from being one even though you are pretending you aren't. This whole thread is this:>Trump did this thing we would NEVER done it>No this doesn't count>Hilary wanting to bomb Assange doesn't mean she wants to do it>Obama spying on the Brazilian people doesn't mean that he didn't care about privacy>Democrats aren't left wing chud. All the bad things they do it is because they are actually right wing but at the same time >>83127350>>83128772It is literally on the email files.
>>83128814at least you're coming to grips that outside of your safe spaces literally no one respects you or your regressive ideologynow jerk off and cry
>>83128816chat bot, this is a chat bot don't reply to the chat bot
>donald trump is a pedophile>YEAH BUT MUH BOTH SIDES BOTH SIDES BILL CLINTON BOTH SIDES
>>83128831the thing that's funny to me is that they're so in love and obsessed with trump that they think other people feel the same way about bozos like bill clintonwe don't fuckin care dudeif bill was raping minors after trump was done polishing his knob, then throw him in jail toothrow them all in jailI don't care if it's only five republicans to twenty democrats, throw them in jailthis is the thing they can't grasptrump is god to them, he is their new jesus, so they assume we must feel the same way about democrat politiciansI hate the dems too lmao, fuck em
>>83128831We could call it a smear, and then show all the previous smears used against Trump but you would call them whataboutismhttps://x.com/i/grok/share/4cQI02mesl31Teuk2dK1iCD3DJust ask Grok about the various hoaxes used to smear trump in the past. The very fine people hoax. The drinking bleach hoax. The Russia Collusion hoax. The suckers and losers hoax. The way January 6 was weaponized against him.It's easy to watch the clips and see the way the media lies and misleads when it comes to trumphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jg7CnaYM83s
>>83128831>You said beep beep would do dum dum>but it end up being boop boop. Hehe gotcha The whole premise of this thread would end up in both sideism especially since we can find cases of privacy infringement on both democrat and republican governments, to US people and people around the world.If you didn't wanted to go that way then you should have written different. For an educated redditor you are quite dumb.
>>83128872>>83128874chatbots don't reply to the chatbots
>>83128882jew detected don't reply to jews
>>83128872And you shut up. Trump is a pedo. It is just democrats pretending they don't suck too that makes me think they are retarded.>>83128882If you bring me a good femboy artist to beat myself too I get out of this thread :)
>>83128891What is the proof trump is a pedophile?
>>83128891stop replying to the chatbots>>83128893trump sucked off bill clinton then fucked minors
>>83128872>>83128874b-but bros?? i thought trump was going to drain the le swamp???
>>83128893>What proof that the US government is comprised of pedophiles?Shut up. You and the democrats who pretend they "aren't in a cult" while going back to defend Hillary Clinton are the same.>>83128898And he didn't. That is quite funny.
>>83128619>muh constitutionlmao it's been made abundantly clear that neither your president nor the supreme court care about that. The US you think you live in does not exist anymore, time to wake up.
>>83126196heres the thing you liberals always leave out. this was gonna happen 100% eventually. if you're not a mouth breathing retard you knew the surveillance state would continue. you know cbdc's were coming, digital ids etc. Its just a matter of which side do you want. Do i want digital id's with trannies running the show, or digital id's with natsoc's running the show. Its always been two teams fighting each other for the same prize. Liberals just for some reason think their side is the good guys lol. Most conservatives no all government is the enemy. We just hate you fags teaching our kids to be trannies and keeping the border wide open while refusing to process criminals. Get Fucked.
>>83128897Bold claim. Can you back that up with proof?
>>83128619They will obviously make exceptions for the business sector and government employees, just like they are planning to do with chat control.
>>83128916trump left the proof under bill clinton's ball sack
>>83128916US is fucked. The whole American continent is fucked.Thanks everybody, you are great. Now go back to talk about your dramatized mcpolitics while ignoring the huge kgb style kompromat made by Israel to the US. It IS actually red vs blue tf2 politics. Who would've tought?
>>83128916mr "hillary clinton deleting emails about democrats sucking the blood and adrenochrome of children under a pizza shop pedo jewish cabal" asks for proof
>>83128946It would be pretty simple to find out if comet ping pong had a basement or not with a camera and 5 minutes
>>83128898Oh he did drain the swamp alright
>>83128941Wouldn't the evidence suggest that Ukraine has kompromat on the US given how much money the US has been sending to Ukraine?U.S. assistance to Israel for the four-year span that roughly corresponds to Jan 20, 2017 Jan 20, 2021 (i.e. FY2017-FY2020 totals reported) was about $13.95 billion (obligations).U.S. assistance to Ukraine for the roughly comparable four-year span Jan 20, 2021 Jan 20, 2025 is an order of magnitude larger - on the scale of $174 billion-$183 billion depending on accounting rules and cut-off date.$174 billion is about 12.5 times larger than $13.95 billion. How do you explain the discrepancy?
>>83128966god damn the chatbot is really caught up today
>>83128975Asking for evidence and providing evidence to back up my statements makes me more than human
>>83128998>hello fellow human, my behavior clearly qualifies me as a real human, yes?
>>83128912You are almost right. There is a pressure to governments to force digital IDs and the end of privacy and this is bipartisan. I think it is to compete with China's model. We are going to a complete "chinafication" of the world, where to compete with the disciplined and cheap work of China other countries will try to adapt to this, destroying privacy to "protect the people's minds from external influence" and to flexibilize workers and human rights to make manufacturing cheaper. I know this is quite schizo but this is my theory.>>83128966There a lot of hypothesis, but the most likely is the access to rare-materials on Ukraine. Also there is the NATO promise of being a protection to the other countries on the east europe so they need Ukraine to win.
Who represents progressive democrats at a federal level?Like who would they want for president? Who represents their interests instead of the geriatric Biden and Trump?
It's almost as if the relevant factor here isn't muh left right brain shit, but jews trying to hold onto control. Huh.
>>83129125Personally, I don't think there's a real solid representative of progressives in American politics. Tim Walz and Zohran Mamdani are probably the closest, but I don't think either are serious presidential candidates. Anyone with an ounce of political literacy knows that the Democrats are a center-right party and have absolutely zero interest in progressive policy outside of crowd pleasers like abortion and moral grandstanding. Without a new party suddenly rising to relevance (absolutely not going to happen in the US), there's no shot that Americans get a shot at real progressive politics any time soon. We're already right leaning compared to the rest of the anglosphere, and Trumpism is so regressive and radical that it has shifted our Overton Window to a really concerning position.
>>83129164Progress = Utopian magical thinking space gommunism where you can somehow have the Scandinavian model but without the Scandinavians, lazy niggers will sustain it somehow
>>83129182that's great buddy
>>83129164>Anyone with an ounce of political literacy knows that the Democrats are a center-right party>We're already right leaning compared to the rest of the anglosphere...Well that may be true looking at the state of the anglosphere...
>>83129204It is true, objectively. We're by far the furthest right of all the Western-European-sourced nations. We're embarrassingly behind on very serious, non-social-politics related issues when compared to the rest of the Global North, aside from maybe Russia. As we fall further and further behind Europe on subjects like quality of life, infrastructure, and middle-class GDP, China is full speed ahead outpacing all of the West. So not only are we behind our contemporaries, all of us are falling behind our most significant adversary at the same time. Meanwhile we're neck deep in an extreme reactionary swing to the right, giving time to radical right-wing ideologies for the sake of protecting corporate interests.
>>83129246You support mass immigration. Who are you to talk about protecting corporate interests. lmao
>>83129264I didn't mention anything about mass immigration. Why are you incapable of discussing the topics at hand? Serious question, try to take off your 4chan bad faith hat for a moment, why are you incapable of replying without trying to redirect the subject to an area that you feel comfortable with? If you want to actually talk shop and policy, I will, but if you're just going to have a melty and try to get me in a spin cycle about your hot-button brain rot proganda topics then I'm going to dip.
>>83129287>talks in broad strokes about muh rightoids somehow being useful idiots for The Corations(TM) and The RIch(TM)>UHM AKSHUALLY SWEATY YOU CAN'T DO THE SAME ABOUT ME, TAKE OFF THE BAD FAITH HATKill yourself
>>83129301yeah that's what I expected from a "conservative"no actual theory, no actual discussion, just melties and freaking out about whatever r/conservative told you to be mad about
>>83129246You generalized all the democratic party and the left-wing politics and ideologies that it is a huge body of different ideas even though originated from the same Marxist roots, and extrapolated. The US may not have the structures and social welfare you cited but it is sure not a center-right party, especially with their stances.> China is full speed ahead outpacing all of the WestNow this is more complex. I find times when China basically is a manufacturing country with cheap work and other times they do something based. Their stances are less political and more pragmatic overall
>>83129310You post thought-terminating cliches and gibberish that you are too cowardly to post in /pol/. You are the dumbest gorilla nigger.
>>83129325>>83129342If you wanted a rehash at your reply you should have tried harder to cut out the anger in your first sentence. The fact that you percieve ANY Democrat policy or concept as having roots in Marxism displays that you know nothing about Democrat policy or Marxism. Read theory before trying to have serious topics about policy. This is why people don't take your copy>paste replies seriously. Everyone knows that you're just using the playbook other people have written for you. Conservative politics operate like a Christian Apologetics course. It's not about teaching you the policy or theory, it's about giving you ammo to defend things you don't even understand or believe.
>>83129246>giving time to radical right-wing ideologies for the sake of protecting corporate interests.Do you have any evidence of billionaires doing this? Because I remember how hard it was to voice your opinion on the internet as a right-wing not long time ago.Also all countries will end up protecting corporate interests. It is a sad reality of the world, and not only that they protect their corporate interests while forcing other countries to not do it.>>83129357But they have. All leftist ideologies end up drinking from Marx in one way or another.>If you wanted a rehash at your reply you should have tried harder to cut out the anger in your first sentenceYeah I'm sure angry.
>>83129381Also you seem to think that because I said Marx, it meant bad. This is on you.
>>83126196>trumplegislative isn't trump
>>83129528why did you kill the thread?lame
Just wait until they get to banning all those proxies you use to spam 4chan.org for 5 days straight because it is your literal meaning of life.
>>8312934270! 60! 50! 30! 20! RETARD RETARD! STOP arguing in bad faith RETARD
>>83127350>SEEEE?E?E?!?!?!?!? THEY'RE THE SAME!!! LOOK THEY'RE THE SAME!!?!?!!!!!!!!this but unironicallyI realized this when 1984 was removed from the public school curriculum
How can you use a vpn anonymously if you're payment credentials are linked to the account?
