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>have way too close of a relationship with my BPD narcissist mother
>turn out an HRT femboy pseudoandrophile bottom
She also hates me now btw

>>83314177
>pseudoandrophile bottom
Wat?

>>83314161
your thread is very nice and on topic stay on here please >>>/r9k/

>>83314177
nothing ruined my psychology more than when I behaved in the exact way my mother wanted me to just for her to reject it and shame me for it
splitting is fucking terrifying when the person is who you're supposed to depend on for safety

>>83314161
>Relationship fine with both parents
>End up as a ugly top that can never have sex because I'm a manlet twink

>>83314180
I like men because they make me feel feminine in comparison. It's different from how gay men are attracted to men because I'm not directly attracted to them.

>>83314191
That sounds really rough. If your mother is abusive or ill that messes people up even if she didn't physically lay a finger on you, I don't really think a lot of people grasp how much damage bad mothers can do to sensitive boys.

>>83314199
So it's about placing yourself in hetero gender dynamic or smth?

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I was never abused but as a homeschooled recluse I developed a femdom fetish
sorry about your situation tho OP

>>83314224
I feel that erases a lot of the finer details, but if that's easier for you to conceptualize it.

>>83314161
Typical story of gays. Atleast you admit it instead of the usual denial
>I was just born this way! It's natural!
Literally never happens it's always abuse.

>>83314254
I bet OP has had more sex than you

>>83314193
I'll suck your dick if it makes you feel better

>>83314199
it really doesn't matter, you're right
I got both, but the emotional trauma sticks in my head more than the physical does
though I've repressed most of my memories of her smacking me around, they only creep out if I see or hear something that reminds my brain "oh hey, I went through that"

>>83314231
you might have been emotionally abused without realizing it
emotional neglect is shown to be very harmful to development

>>83314254
I mean I've met gay men that have amazing families who love them and let them be who they were since before puberty
a lot of those are the very outwardly presenting types that are deep into feminine culture
most gays have a tragic backstory in my experience, though

>>83314264
you don't know that, that dude could fuck and you'd have no idea

>>83314161
Tfw will never fuck the brainworms out of OP or such

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>>83314161
Is this a thread for sexual orientation psychoanalysis?

>>83314231
>I was never abused
>homeschooled
kek pick one. You fuckers are so dumb no wonder you can't figure your shit out.

>>83314276
>I mean I've met gay men that have amazing families who love them and let them be who they were since before puberty
>a lot of those are the very outwardly presenting types that are deep into feminine culture
This is half of the reason I can't relate to gay men at all. I'm totally removed from gay culture. I just used escapism pretty heavily, I'm not social or anything. Consequently I don't consider myself gay.

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>>83314276
>you might have been emotionally abused without realizing it
I dunno I think I genuinely had a normal sexuality before I was homeschooled (that came later in life) but after I was I lost what little social skills I had left then I wanted an older woman to guide me
I think Im still an incompetent loser but there is no older woman to help me fix my tism

>>83314276
>I'll suck your dick if it makes you feel better
What country so you can suck on my ween?

>>83314279
you never know try hanging out at a few gay bars
you could find me without realizing

>>83314284
both
honestly it's a self pity thread after waking up and realizing I let myself get manhandled last night

>>83314287
yeah I've heard some serious horror stories about homeschooling

>>83314298
huh
you're mad because some gay men are just happy?

>>83314306
you could consider stunting your social development and opportunities to be neglect if you really wanted to

>>83314306
>sample_
you're a huge faggot for sure

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>>83314332
>you could consider stunting your social development and opportunities to be neglect if you really wanted to
yeah but what does that do for me?
I feel like I was also at fault for lacking ambition, and when classes were over I would play vidya all day instead of going out or even learning to drive

btw OP I can post pics like this right? its your thread

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>>83314346
gee yeah I wonder why I do that?

>>83314332
>both
Can I join then?
It just been bothering me a lot that while in the military(from where I got back this week) my gay thoughts got stronger and more reality based so to say. I thought it's just a phase from internet and porn overconsumption, but it now doesn't feel like that at all. I feel confused..

>>83314332
>you're mad because some gay men are just happy?
Not mad? No???

>>83314332
I've heard far worse stories happening every day at public schools. and why wouldn't you? the lowest of the low tier become teachers, coupled with the dumbest students.

obvious what's gonna happen

>>83314306
>that pic
moid fetishes are so funny and unrealistic
these hot women with the sexual predator energy of grown men gropping little subby boys

xd

>>83314329
I'm a burger

>>83314346
based

>>83314357
>yeah but what does that do for me?
nothing
but you could use that knowledge to help yourself analyze and intellectualize your shortcomings
like if you know that you're bad at socializing because your parents stunted your development, you can study how other people overcome the same situation
wallowing in self pity doesn't help, and being a victim is very comfortable
but using your knowledge of your victimhood as a tool for understanding can be beneficial
>I feel like I was also at fault for lacking ambition, and when classes were over I would play vidya all day instead of going out or even learning to drive
was that you, did you know any better? why didn't your parents help you regulate?
they were perfectly content with letting you stay at home and rot under their eye, do you ever wonder if they wanted to raise you to be dependent on them? do you feel independent from them yet?
>btw OP I can post pics like this right? its your thread
I don't care I'm not a cop

>>83314379
>Can I join then?
try, don't beat anyone up if you regret it that has unironically happened to me
I was convinced that I was straight my entire life until I actually managed to get in bed with a woman at 20 and couldn't get it up
turned out my porn and masturbation habits (I was unironically experimenting with anal as soon as I could get hard) weren't just like a weird dark secret and was actually what I wanted

>>83314384
are you the homeschool kid
those stories are really exaggerated nothing really happens at public schools

>>83314396
I knew a few girls (emphasis on few) and I used to take nudes for them and I loved doing that
still a virgin tho

>>83314422
>those stories are really exaggerated nothing really happens at public schools
why are you lying?

are you a teacher or something?

>>83314429
Yeaah sure bro. xd

>>83314161
Great another whiny faggot loser thread to farm pity from other whiny faggot losers. Just what the board needed. Kys.

>>83314422
>do you ever wonder if they wanted to raise you to be dependent on them? do you feel independent from them yet?
well my mother sometimes complains that im not manly enough but beyond that not much
I tried to vent to her about feeling I missed out on highschool but she didnt get it
my father had a mentally breakdown and doesnt live with us anymore, so I cant really look up to him
he is also ESL
>>83314444
I meant on discord, not irl of course lolz
nice quads

>>83314422
>don't beat anyone up if you regret it that has unironically happened to me
What the hell? You mean a man beat you up because he regretted having sex with you?

>>83314161
>mommy issues = gay man
many such cases

>>83314482
honestly it really sounds like your upbringing did a lot of harm to you
your father's mental health and likely inability to fully integrate into local society probably caused your mother to rely on you for emotional labor
I wouldn't blame yourself for your shortcomings, only what you do with yourself now that you know you were dealt a bad hand

>>83314490
yeah he busted my face up
it's not uncommon but it's not something happening all the time either
some self-hating or repressed gays will panic and attack whoever they were with because of how shocking the cognitive dissonance is
it's not very well documented because the government hates gay people and would never take something like that seriously

>>83314161
Im sure you wouldve been a fag either way

>>83314544
well no he went mad only after I turn 18
so its bad but not like a defining childhood moment
He was still ESL tho