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First for read Robert Moore.

4 days 27

3rd for intjfemboi!!

I am infp and I want to be used like an onahole by someone that hates me

>>83736208
cute OP pick!
Good questions!
>Your type
INTJ
>Do you still believe your childhood ambitions?
My childhood ambition was to get married and have a family, I still believe in that! But not very possible since I'm retarded
>Do you collect knick knacks?
No I mostly collect books and digital collectables like video games
>What's the correct way to enjoy a steak?
Med-Rare
>What country would fall first, if we had another world war?
Denmark, just like in every other world war... (assuming it doesn't count as a world war unless europe gets involved, otherwise, Taiwan, or Palestine, or Ukraine, Sudan, or some No-name african nation will be quicker since already dead)

>>83736359
>I am infp and I want to be used like an onahole by someone that hates me
That's very infp core.

>>83736359
Are you a boy or a girl? Infp

>>83736405
I am a grown man that wanted to be a girl at least by 10 years old, maybe earlier but I can't remember

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>>83736208
>Your type
ENTJ
>Do you still believe your childhood ambitions?
Well I wanted to be an artist but thats not happening. So no.
>Do you collect knick knacks?
Yes I do :) But it's more like I sell stuff so I end up with knick knacks. I somehow ended up with a ton mini LOL suprise stuff, people keep giving it to me.
>What's the correct way to enjoy a steak?
I don't eat a lot of steak. Last time I had it was maybe 5 years ago. IDK I'm not a big steak person.
>What country would fall first, if we had another world war?
Probably Armenia. NATO would occupy it to get a road linking Baku to the EU. My guess is a 3 day operation.
>83736263
>i usee to smash ther skuls todgether Lps if Funny i Love those s litle strange series were the Adoption centre get raided by columbine shooter
LMAO. Good one.

>>83736483 (Me)
Didn't link >83736263 properly: >>83736263

Read Graham and Dodd

No one replied to my post last thread.

>>83736457
That's not good bro. You gotta get out of that stuff

>>83736534
Which post?

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>>83736553
>sdlkioasfijasffashsafhafjsadafsjfsajafssfaasdksafhlfsasaflkfsadlkfasljhfalfafaldfsadfadfs
real

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>>83736221
What's something they've written? Do all of their published writings read the same, or are all of them unique?
>>83736289
Mystery date tracking...
>>83736359
I mean, you'd really need to do something to make them hatefuck you, what's your plan?
>>83736360
>My childhood ambition was to get married and have a family, I still believe in that! But not very possible since I'm retarded
In the sense that, you're actually stupid, or you wouldn't know how to maintain a relationship with someone?
>No I mostly collect books and digital collectables like video games
What's prized among the collection? Have you 100% any of the games?
>Med-Rare
Good, good... what's your sides/pairings, if any?
>Denmark, just like in every other world war[...]
I figured they were pretty well off, unless the fact they're pretty unremarkable outside living standards is what'll kill them
>>83736483
>Well I wanted to be an artist but thats not happening. So no.
Did you wanna get into a specific field or style?
>Yes I do :) But it's more like I sell stuff so I end up with knick knacks.
Which one do you like the most? Do you like the ones you can mess with, or the ones that are decorative?
>I don't eat a lot of steak.
Do you enjoy something in a way that might cause a debate among others?

im rlly sweepy
wish me good night ok

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>>83736656
>Did you wanna get into a specific field or style?
I like expressionism, I dislike conceptual art.
>Which one do you like the most?
Probably my vintage barbies. My favorite it a 1984 office barbie with wind up green screen computer. I have a bunch of anime art books from the 1990s, a bunch of 1970s game consoles. Kids books from the 1800s. My Peach Riot collection. Basically odds and ends I picked up doing bulk sales. I can take pics if you wanna see any.
>Do you like the ones you can mess with, or the ones that are decorative?
Good questions, probably ones I can mess with. I have ADHD. I'm kind of channeling it into creating stuff now.
>Do you enjoy something in a way that might cause a debate among others?
I kind of "enjoy" the stuggle there is a quality to it like an enhancement of reality. Money doesn't exsist its a fantasy that says I get to have access to stuff because of perception. Why? Because I like the stuggle.
>>83736927
Good Night

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>>83736989
Post vaporwave OL Barbie!

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>Your type
>WITHOUT USING A SEARCH ENGINE, define the term "sympathetic magic". If you are unfamiliar with the concept, make a guess based on the etymology and context of the term about what it may mean.

>>83736989
>Good Night
thank you for being nice to me
no one else is ever nice to me
>>83737073
>context of the term
there is no context unless im missing something besides u

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Context is all around you
If you're only looking to the sentences of the post
Instead of the site surrounding them
You're missin' oot

>>83737073
I would imagine it's magic to make others empathetic to you or cause some kind of connection that makes others share your pain and or feelings or something.

>open book test
>go to
>/x/nobo
>????
>graduate

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>>83737073
>Your type
Peepeepoopoomer
>define the term "sympathetic magic".
Sympathetic implies influence from the outside
Magic implies something gained through unconscious means.
Sympathetic also implies an interpersonal relationship of some description, but I suppose it's not entirely the case, and that the sympathetic influence could be an "inanimate" object.

So it's some some of external object which connects to another object in some magical manner to influence the object to which its connected.
Or more clearly, by sympathizing with this object and giving it psychic energy, it gains the ability to magically influence the sympathizer.

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You're still not [allowed] to answer my questions too early. You scare off n00bs. We need to be welcoming to a few to feed on

>>83737102
You have imagined wrongly.

I shuffled songs for the sexual-tension reggies and how they feel about each other.
turbie to TE: How bad can i be?
TE to turbie: As your father i expressly forbid it
Mel to togatanon: Mark David Chapmen by MSI
togatanon to Mel: Roman Holiday by Nicki
Patchouli to Mel: The boy is mine
INFJ-A to TE: All the good girls go to hell
TE to INFJ-A: Blah Blah Blah Kesha
Diarygirl to INFJ-A: Playdate by Melanie
INFJ-A to Diarygirl: Nasty by Ayesha

Any reqs?

>Your type
intp
>Do you still believe your childhood ambitions?
no
>Do you collect knick knacks?
no
>What's the correct way to enjoy a steak?
who cares
>What country would fall first, if we had another world war?
taiwan probably

mbti is horroscopes for redditors

>why we you up so late?
>if you could choose to have a different sleep schedule what would you choose and why?

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Maybe I wouldn't mind the Introverted Feeling types if they looked more like this.

>>83737322
Worse than that anon. It's horoscopes for HR.
I have taken some job-related surveys that had questions supiciously close to the average MBTI online test, as in focusing on the 4 dichotomies of E v I, T v F, S v N, J v P in a very blatant way. Even if they don't tell you the "results" so I don't know exactly which methodlogy they are using, some could actually be Big5(though in that case I'd expect questions of neuroticism, they weren't there.)

Ok since nobody is interested ill just
shuffle songs in your name
Turbie:Only girl in this world rhianna
TE:God is a woman ariana
INFJ-A:God is a woman (kek, again, same person?)
Mel:When i grow up pussy cat dolls
Togatanon:Shades of cool lana
Diarygirl:My prerogative britney
Patchouli:Yeah Usher

Defying what I'm [allowed] to do is what I like to do!

>>83736208
>>Your type
ESFP-T
>>Do you still believe your childhood ambitions?
I've not gotten as far as I wanted to as a child, but I've gotten as far as I want to as an adult.
>>Do you collect knick knacks?
I used to, but space becomes an issue.
>>What's the correct way to enjoy a steak?
I don't think there is a 'correct way'. I like them napalmed, but I'm not everybody.
>>What country would fall first, if we had another world war?
North Korea maybe? Idunno.

>>83735599
>As opposed to where : )
IRL conversation.
>How do you feel about the social media posts where they show how nice they are by filming them feeding homeless people?
CRINGE!

>>83737073
>define the term "sympathetic magic"
Isn't that like where you use a piece of something to impact it from far away?

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>>83736208
>>Your type
INTJ IN(T) sx/so 5w6 583 VLEF
>>Do you still believe your childhood ambitions?
I've accomplished the ones I remember. Suffice to say, I can see why people tend to opt out of that.
>>Do you collect knick knacks?
You could say so.
>>What's the correct way to enjoy a steak?
Whatever way that has you taste exactly the meat of it without it tasting bad.
>>What country would fall first, if we had another world war?
Whatever micro defacto puppet state that has all the paperwork ready for instant unconditional surrender.

Foreign troops marching around to do vibe checks and have you sign documents that are purposefully too long to read here and now is probably quite the experience.
>>83737073
>>WITHOUT USING A SEARCH ENGINE, define the term "sympathetic magic"
What makes you confident this helps us gain insight into the psychological types?

>>83736656
>What's something they've written?
King Warrior Magician Lover and the Grandiosity book are my recs.
>Do all of their published writings read the same, or are all of them unique?
The rest are rather too specific and of academic interest. Good writing but not exactly unique as Jungian books, unless you start doing cross-references with the above two.

I'd probably actually recommend to try the audio recordings of his lectures (that feel like a podcast) first. It would be easy to get into, and it has some exclusive topics on its own! He's casual on explanations and clarifies stuff for anyone's level of interest.

>>83729207
I debated someone with (definitely more) differentiated sensation who believed something like this can't be possible without a measured reference point. He probably was an extravert.

>>83737341
Was that a part of some hiring procedure? Have you ever purposefully tried to answer for a more "favorable" result?

https://youtu.be/eHbNU9WuVgw?si=nrzSSK8CqGhDaPmg

>>83737073
>sympathetic magic
Fundamentally evil

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>>83738080
>Was that a part of some hiring procedure?
One was while I was still in high school, the other after I was already hired. Though I have heard some being used straight for the hiring process itself.

>Have you ever purposefully tried to answer for a more "favorable" result?
Of course, though I have no idea if that actually changed anything.

>I debated someone with (definitely more) differentiated sensation who believed something like this can't be possible without a measured reference point. He probably was an extravert.
Not a real pure blood Se-groid like Erika obviously. So much of a Se-groid the first thing she told to her anxious introverted friend is that she needs to change hair style.
Did it work? Well......

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>>83736989
>I like expressionism, I dislike conceptual art.
That self-portrait/scenery kinda stuff? Yeah, that'd be cool to do. I could show emotion, but would have a hell of a time showing what I want.
>Probably my vintage barbies. [...]
I'm having trouble visualizing which direction you'd mean with the "wind up green screen" so- wait I have the internet
>...
Ah, that is pretty cool. I'd still like to see the cool stuff if you get a chance to snap a pic, I'd never think Mattel would make neato stuff like that for Barbies.
>Good questions, probably ones I can mess with.
The market for the ones you can fidget with are either cheap garbage, or overly expensive clicky slidy things. Not a good world for those folks... rare to see cool interesting stuff you can mess with. What are you making?
>I kind of "enjoy" the stuggle there is a quality to it like an enhancement of reality.
Not... quite the topic I was inquiring, but interesting to see how people enjoy the struggle in it's essence, rather the end goal. I was more asking about the food stuff again, whether or not ketchup is a valid hot dog topping or whatever, can't think of much since I don't know if what I enjoy would be controversial.
>>83737322
Probably. I'm just here for the conversations.
>>83737857
>I've not gotten as far as I wanted to as a child, but I've gotten as far as I want to as an adult.
Hey, small victories. We worry about the other stuff when we can.
>I used to, but space becomes an issue.
What's something you'll always keep, should you sell the rest?
>I don't think there is a 'correct way'. I like them napalmed, but I'm not everybody.
I don't know if napalm tastes good...
>>83738080
>INTJ IN(T) sx/so 5w6 583 VLEF
>
wat
I'm still new to this, what's the extra stuff?
>I've accomplished the ones I remember. Suffice to say, I can see why people tend to opt out of that.
Did you keep it simple, or did you manage to go beyond what others are usually able to?
>You could say so.
What, book shaped lighters?

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>>83738080
>Whatever micro defacto puppet state that has all the paperwork ready for instant unconditional surrender.
Ah, so the hon-hons
>The rest are rather too specific and of academic interest. Good writing but not exactly unique as Jungian books, unless you start doing cross-references with the above two.
I'll give 'em a listen if I remember to. Any one recording you recommend first?

>>83739445
>I'm still new to this, what's the extra stuff?
Not him but
>IN(T)
Jungian-accurate typology, which is not always accurate to MBTI.
They use different definitions and depending on whether you go with pure dichotomies(which is more accurate to MBTI technically) or Grant/Beebe stack shit, you can get wildly different types between the two.
tl;dr read Psychological Types for this one, it's sticking faithfully to that although the type labels are made up for the sake of brevity.
>sx/so 5w6 583
All of those are Enneagram, specifically in this order:
>instinctual variant, type and wing, tritype
>VLEF
Psychosophy/attitudinal psyche
He has 1st Volition, 2nd Logic, 3rd Emotion, 4th Physics.
You can arrange these 4 things in any order unlike Jungian functions(where you cannot have Thinking be the auxiliary of Feeling), each level has a different meaning.

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What's the type of men who use female perfumes despite presenting themselves as straight? I really could use identifying them to avoid them better.

>>83739445

>What, book shaped lighters?
No, more useless.

>Did you keep it simple, or did you manage to go beyond what others are usually able to?
More like I had figured out what did I REALLY mean when I had set the ambition thingy.

>what's the extra stuff?
The order is: MBTI, Jungian Psychological Type, Enneagram (instinct stack, type with closest neighbor "wing" subtype, tritype), Attitudinal Psyche (nu-Psychosophy).

Those are the only typologies I acknowledge, aside from some obscure or too controversial ones that didn't get traction for some reason.
Takes some mental gymnastics to acknowledge exactly the MBTI typology lol...

Also I mistyped my instinct stacking. It's sx/sp.
Have you tried the non-16p tests in OP?

>>83738536
Reminds me of those official complaints of people being denied the job because of MBTI (16p) test results.

It's even more grim/funny to test the employees.
What for, anyway? Segregation or chopping the teams up into max KPI pairings?
>oh anon...
you tested as INFP...
>we're very sorry but...
>uhh...
>how would you handle working under some other company?

Thanks to knowing the meta, the entirety of our community can present a responsible ENFJ-A persona anywhere, anytime!

>>83739697
>Reminds me of those official complaints of people being denied the job because of MBTI (16p) test results.
Holy grim...
>What for, anyway? Segregation or chopping the teams up into max KPI pairings?
I don't want to know. The most "optimistic" way I can interpret it is falling for "type=skillz" so you just assign all the ISFJs to cleaning duties kek.

>Thanks to knowing the meta, the entirety of our community can present a responsible ENFJ-A persona anywhere, anytime!
xxTPs about to have a field day trolling everyone.
That said I think I actually went for pretending to be ISTx because everyone likes a good drone/artisan, right?

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>>83739460
>I'll give 'em a listen if I remember to. Any one recording you recommend first?
I had a fave playlist but its channel took it down...

This newer one has most of my fave entries and goes well mmm as a course.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL879965yJx44OcJaYHi1fO5IZRH7Fie0F

Actually I'll even give it a re-listen myself in case anyone would want a fresh discussion. It goes well during chores and commutting...
Also I see new upload batch playlists I haven't seen before... But that's for later.

>>83739736
By the mental notes I've been taking in my head, it's more like the ENFJ-A behavior cluster is the instinctively expected standard in any case, and whatever is the sub-persona "type" you'd regress to, it would be seen as a subflavor of ENFJ-A if you've been doing the persona-ing right.
Doing the ENFJ-A persona-ing is the funniest thing ever my God.

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>>83739886
The Jung's Aion quaternio chart discussed in first vid, for convenience.

>>83736989
>Probably my vintage barbies
you are a vintage barbie!!

>>83739886
>it's more like the ENFJ-A behavior cluster is the instinctively expected standard in any case, and whatever is the sub-persona "type" you'd regress to, it would be seen as a subflavor of ENFJ-A if you've been doing the persona-ing right.
I mean true, which is also why that's the more likely "fake type" people would pick.

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>>83739445
>What's something you'll always keep, should you sell the rest?
The plushy shark that my big brother gave me when we were kids.
>I don't know if napalm tastes good...
I don't know either, but I have it on good authority that it SMELLS good.

>>83739886
btw the first vid cuts off too soon.
The full lecture is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu39OElOENg

hOW CAN YOU DECODE THE MAIL PSYCHE WHEN MOIDS DON'T THINK AHAHAHAHAHHA CGOTGETEM

>*shudders*
>*gags*
All this popsci-pseudo-psychology is making Jung archetypally cry from beyond the collective unconscious.

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>>83740219
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu39OElOENg

>"hunter isn't an archetype"
Uh that's not what you say later in the Grandiosity book, Moore. You literally sell it as warrior subtype peak later, but uh, retrospection.
I don't agree with with structural hierarchy rigidity of archetypes, either.

...
>the Self became a misinterpreted concept for narcs
Well, yeah...

...
Moore states depreciation of the warrior started only as late as with Freud. I disagree as it was obviously earlier, but good point to consider anyway.

...
>pseudojungians and inflated importance gatekeepers called out every 20 minutes
Yup.

...
>trickster is a magician subtype reminder
>overflow of trickster => no king
Hmmmm, well well well.

...
>the witch is the priestess, unless you're a bigot
Umikeko bros we eating good.

...
>"the importance of the warrior feminine"
It's funny that Japanese media had been thoroughly crunching through and over archetypal stuff considered rare and scarce for the global "Western" media sphere.

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>>83740445
>the witch is the priestess, unless you're a bigot
>Umikeko bros we eating good.
Still one of the better eras of /mbti/ purely because it went deep down the Jungian rabbit hole. I miss 'em.

Also for all the T.F.-focused talk (which is certainly interesting on its own but also kinda difficult to say much about it with how remote the experience feels like) personally I thought the biggest contribution was bringing some attention to the difference between raw attitude/function "usage" and the primary attitude/function establishing its own governing principle in consciousness, to which everything else including auxiliaries and inferior attitude/function are abiding to in normal conditions.
That's really helpful in terms of how to type somebody who seems to have more than one highly differentiated function, along with what V.F. said about looking at the *true* inferior function.

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>Jungian psychology functions cover only 2 of the archetype quadrants (sensation and feeling for the lover, intuition and thinking of the magician, nothing for warrior or king)
I forgot that one, but makes sense.

>wholeness requires not understanding, but action
Das rite.

>>83740639
>the difference between raw attitude/function "usage" and the primary attitude/function establishing its own governing principle in consciousness, to which everything else including auxiliaries and inferior attitude/function are abiding to in normal conditions.
I'm not exactly getting or recalling it? Do you mean something like that a real differentiated function would have a whole structure around its operation, whereas some inferior function used under T.F. may only be distinguished by some capability of differentiation, but not a structure to hold itself?

>>83740248
By the way the woman psyche structure would be mostly the same save for, duh, the feminine as the main principle. I think I had extra reading resources on that somewhere...

>>83740736
>Do you mean something like that a real differentiated function would have a whole structure around its operation, whereas some inferior function used under T.F. may only be distinguished by some capability of differentiation, but not a structure to hold itself?
I remember them saying that the conscious attitude establishes a principle, let's say that of Extraversion and Sensation for a change - and Introversion, Thinking, Feeling, and some Intuition as well, are all admitted as long they abide to the principle, and conversely will be discarded(not always intentionally, sometimes it's just casually dropped off consciousness) if they tend to go off-topic too much or straight oppose it.
So our "realist" here can think and feel very well so long you stay grounded in the real facts, some intuition will exist in a very banal form that doesn't go beyond their most immediate and obvious applications(unless it's an unconscious expression of intuition), looking inward also allowed so long it doesn't create too much detachment, and so on. But the second you drift off, that's where they will just dismiss it as just fantasy despite the fact that it you might present them a logically-sound idea, agreeble feeling, and not really impluasible possibility.

>>83736656
>In the sense that, you're actually stupid, or you wouldn't know how to maintain a relationship with someone?
In the sense that I'm like standoffish, hard headed, and autism don't maintain friendships always alone. Only talk to family, so it would be fine if I was with wife, but the journey to get wife is not very likely.
>What's prized among the collection? Have you 100% any of the games?
Pirate silver, it's just a single oz of that I play with throughout the day
>Good, good... what's your sides/pairings, if any?
I don't much care for side dish, maybe french fries or chips as the islanders call them
>I figured they were pretty well off, unless the fact they're pretty unremarkable outside living standards is what'll kill them
They don't die it's just they get immediately overtaken due to their weak demeanor. They are material rich but have no defensive capacity, no nukes, no military, Hitler took them over in 6hours. From war start to war end, 6hours. Their military has not improved since then, they rely on international friendships.

>>83739697
are you vagueposting at ceb? i'll fucking kill you

83740693
mosley realized he can't keep up unless he queens out too. togata's hypergamy farming has set off a chain reaction

>>83740803
>the conscious attitude establishes a principle
Mmm, principle as mmm what kind of layer of manifestation of principle? Like a mindset, or personal common sense, or ways to do the considerations, or just the "mechanics" of the factors and libido and what kind of archetypal cores are involved, around the dominant function?

>>83740888
Principle as if it was some sort of oppressive psychic law. You can think/feel, sometimes even intuit, but only if you keep following the guidelines laid down by the actual superior function/attitude.
Of if we want to go with the "off-topic" joke, you can post about anything as long it's /mbti/-related somehow. Losing that relation would make the post at very least risk deletion if mods cared. That's the principle

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>>83741021
Hm hm king archetype decree around the differentiation? That leaves to think where the warrior would fit into the classic compass then. Maybe in the tension of the opposites...

>>83740858
I don't understand your chronically online terrifying rabid brain damage style riddles you're dropping here on the so-called "cebby."
Is the answer "INFP 4w5 sp/so"? Square up mofo

>>83741045
>Hm hm king archetype decree around the differentiation?
Summoning Von Franz here who literally associated the superior function to a king in a fairytale, the two most capable sons as the auxiliary functions, and the retard to the inferior function lol.
>That leaves to think where the warrior would fit into the classic compass then. Maybe in the tension of the opposites...
Well a warrior does need to fight for something, and I would say fighting implies tension, opposition, all of that.

>>83740880
>>83740693
Can you """People""" just link whatever you're referencing and stop being troglodytes

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>>83741090
no because i learned doing it that way will make you link it for me and that's two posts for the price of one

>>83741101
Unbelievable how much of a homosexual you are

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>>83741045
Breaking it down into all these binaries and sub-cults is anti-Psychic, I think you'll find

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There were probably some other cool stuff in the Umi threads, I gotta check them again sometimes.

>>83737290
why does people/person hate me here?

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>>83741107
https://voca.ro/1dsHxQvWtSpA
Habeeb it!

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>>83741116
https://voca.ro/1eJJrX4BHJiL

I would participate in the socialjerking playlisting if I wasn't in the process of letting all my subscriptions lapse so I can flee to Panama

>>83741148
>touhou fag using AI voice changer
they are truly troons LMFO no girl avatarfags with touhou plus this voice model is extremely well known

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>>83736208
>>Your type
INFJ
>>Do you still believe your childhood ambitions?
Not really, but I didn't have many
>>Do you collect knick knacks?
Nope
>>What's the correct way to enjoy a steak?
Eating it ig
>>What country would fall first, if we had another world war?
I doubt Russia would fare well so maybe that

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>>83741193
I forgot my name oops

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>>83741184
https://voca.ro/1ar0boyFIXy9
It was a TEST you see, a litmus Benchoddel test if you will, yes,
to see whether you're [[[high pattern pre-cog]]] enuf for me to BQTHER w/ . . .

>>83736208
>>Your type
INTJ
>>Do you still believe your childhood ambitions?
I completed them. Not satisfied with it. I have new ambitions now.
>>Do you collect knick knacks?
Do anime figures and gundams count?
>>What's the correct way to enjoy a steak?
Medium Rare that was basted in butter and garlic.
>>What country would fall first, if we had another world war?
Right now? I feel like Russia is on the Verge of just Collapsing.

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>>83741184
To this day I don't know a single biofem who actually plays STGs. NOT ONE, and I'm counting internet people!
Granted, I don't live in Japan but still.

They really just don't vibe with them danmakus.

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2soon.. wtf.....

>>83741208
are you so attentionstarved you need to come crawling to the most glorified shitposting webforum on the internet to larp as a girl using a voice changer so get your cock stroked by other greasy men

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Oh, if only;
If only random were as it was, seeminglyingly passingly by like a cloud on a rainy day, without a drop of rain in its bosom.
If only, when the charger met the port, the device would grow legs and walk away; if it had a reason, or a place to be.
If only-
If only,
There was a way to dig a hole in the sky and plant the seeds of a dream to cover the hole with your feet and leave the seam crying the doubts of a unseen misery-
Waiting to find its way on the path of bleak bliss and company of stars hither to and withering away like time itself.

Oh,
If only.
If.
Only.

>>83741208
If you post pics like that...

>all the greasy mbti incels come flooding in the moment the concept of a woman posting here is conspired
Holy fucking embarassing, voice recordings were countered by clanker AIs, post tits with timestamp or fuck off old geezer

>they only know about LLMs because they are mentally handicapped
lmao

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>>83741253
Do have a musky, smeggy cock I can huff or are you an obstacle in my path? You gonna get outta my way?

Obstacles with be dealt with quickly. So what are you? A man ..or an impasse?

You faggots are so fucking retarded, you fell for it award

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>>83741312
>>83741312
It's not my fault if you didn't get the log in to Fort Choom 365 day streak bonus for your rare collection. Integrate or lurk moar, freshjit

>83741373
see? that wasnt even funny. same style of wordsalad conjured by the cognitively challenged LLM touhou trannies

I read conjungred

Why must the sightless deem they see?
Have they no courtesy?

Oh my god
Have fun with your little e-tranny
im clocking out of this mentally delayed dogshit general

I think I should let lilac smell my cock and get her pregnant if she likes the cheese (I don't shower or wear deodorant)

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>>83741045
Se blindness of INTP huh...

>>83741116
>your type
>where do you think you are

They cannot see past their own eyes,
because their face blocks the mirror.
"If only the window could be clearer!"
Haplessly exclaimed by the cleaner
He squeegeed, expunged, unstained.

But, the eyes remained,
unseeing.

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MTFs be like:
>I NEED to make up for all the LITTLE GIRL SEX I never got in HIGHSCHOOL

FTMs be like:

>Nihil est in intellectu quod prius non fuerit in sensu
Jung unironically quotes this and wants to convince me he's an intuitoid...

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>media product popularity is based on how good it is for projections of the masses of the viewers
Couldn't spell it out before.

>mercenaries, the boardroom commandos, confused for warriors
Classic.
Wait... The warrior feminine... A misprojection through a corpo system... Oh no rxy fans... I have bad news for you...

>archetypal competency may not correlate with wholeness of use
True.

>overdose of warrior energy with only mediocre lover energy is pretty much necrophiliac
That's too quaterniac. Id/unconscious doesn't honor your structure rules. Actually Moore's been really mmm forgetting how simple pre-archetype-complex primitive unconscious moments can go.

>>83741697
Prius? Checks out, car analogies are all sensor type thing!
Anyhow I think this is more of an implication about primacy of empiricism through basic sense-perception but I'm too lazy to even out this into a translator to confirm...

It takes a true intuitive type to realize that everything comes from the senses.

>>83741644
I'm spanking you red baka

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>>83741045
>Maybe in the tension of the opposites...
>>83741066
I was wrong, it's more in the ego as the conscious standpoint that mmm, when it's developed, about focusing on something specific and maintaining the focus.

Don't remember whether it was Jung or Moore or Franz who said this (technically they all said this in their ways), but primitives and primitive development people exactly can't focus on a task for long consistently unless they're under some archetype/shadow/psychosis possession or inflation. Actually I'd even argue that even a state of flow is a cop out, unlike what I've seen nu-nu-Jungians claim.

Also yeah, I completely forgot V.F.'s fairy tale point there lol.

>Jung was rather underdeveloped in the King archetype
Hmm.

Sad I see supposed Jung studiers who are symbolically illiterate, hell.

Enjoying life is like owning a pet tiger, admiring it's beauty, knowing that it might eat you in your sleep. It's like seeing the comedy as you are dropped into an acid vat by a bond esq villain. Like, you are doing to die, but the situation is funny. Is this nauseating? Or just the end conclusion of every spiritual journey? Should one not laugh but cry out and scream? What do our spiritual leaders say on this?

>>83742231
You sure are right Anon. Life really is just like that scene from your heckin Hollywood movies! And guess what? You're the main character! Are you a hero? Or a villain!?

It's called "the spice of life" for a reason. It burns the mouth.

>>83742284
The red 40 in mouth wash?

Sabbath Blessings ^_^

https://youtube.com/watch/m6Erl9u3FQY

>>83742260
Well hang on, I just mean that sometimes the beauty of the beast is not so distant, and you may end up its next meal.

I like existing, but existing likes to put pain on its audience.

>>83742314
Death is a part of life. If there was no pain and struggle in living, you'd not enjoy the pleasures and beauty as much.

Death wouldn't be apart of life if women didn't constantly demand more shit, can't you just be content whore?

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>relisten to lecture on Tillich's book
>recall the lecture is actually x100 times better than the book
Sigh lol.

>you ought to decouple from archetypes
Well, yeah. Jung was rather underemphasizing on this, just putting on the pervasiveness of archetypal dooms more.

>>83742231
Maybe you should learn from the projection transferences. Anyhow you've got very mild descriptions and one would fail to see anything corrodingly troublesome.

>>83742284
It's capsaicin intolerance description.

Love me forever, if only tonight.

>>83742988
>capsaicin
is that one of those little monkeis

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I thought I'd post some stuff of mine for fun. I don't have a lot of time so I grabbed whatever I could find immediately off the shelf. Explaination:
>1)Barbies
This isn't even 1/10 of what I have. From left to right: 1964 baribe, 80s barbie, 80s barbie, 90s gymnast barbie, 00s barbie, 10s barbie, modern barbie.
>2)80s girl dolls
>3)My corsets, handcuffs and leather stuff
>4)Plushes
>5)Vintage books
>6)1970s gen-1 game consoles
>7)1942 Captin Midnight comic
>8)My Peach riot collection
>9/10) old electronics
>11)Touhou merch
>12)Some of my Tumblers

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>>83736208
Haven't taken the test in a while, so thought I would check.... INTP

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INTP types are probably the only ones where I can unintentionally make them feel distraught and I'm exactly sorry.
Maybe also like in 5% of cases with ESxP types.

>>83743289
Aw the thumbnail on 3 looked like sports gear...

>>83743321
fyi it's a big five test rebranded as MBTI.

>>83743222
Probably not.

>>83743289
>>3)My corsets, handcuffs and leather stuff
why do you have these?

>>83743526
well what type are you?

>>83743587
INTJ per Gifts Differing MBTI and IN(T) per Jung.

>>83743526
INTP types are probably the only ones where I can unintentionally make them feel distraught and I'm exactly sorry.

give us an example and dont say tranny gore

>>83743526
Thats just because you are major unlovable faggot, be honest

>>83743661
>May come across as condescending due to their logical and critical nature.
>Can become overly focused on perfecting plans, sometimes leading to inaction or dissatisfaction.

>>83743699
Horoscope faggot

I love patchy, even though it's just lilac pretending to be patchy since patchy killed themselves ^_^

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Heres some anime books and magazines. I'm gonna sell it for mucho dinero. I got this stuff from an estate sale.
>>83743526
>Aw the thumbnail on 3 looked like sports gear...
They're not true corsets in the 1800s sense, these are more for the looks.
>>83743542
>why do you have these?
cause ^_^
...
Breaks over, back to doing spreadsheets.

that is not me he is trying to mimic me do not let him fool you

>>83743715
thats just what the INTJ result said

>>83743792
>patchy killed themselves ^_^
They did? When? He posted a few minutes ago?

>>83743811
it's a new patchy :O

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Ok Reggys take the test.

>>83743889
no. last time I answer no one gave me a u.

>>83743795
I found it interesting when I was dating a weeaboo girl how they basically run their hobby also as a side hustle. Reselling lots of different things so they can buy more new things they want.

>>83743895
Here you're (U) nigga, now take the fuckin test

>>83741644
I know first hand you could just as easily turn this around these days. Not that this isn't true still for women, but either it has become true, or was always also, true for men.

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>>83743645
Actually I'll even recall 2.

#1
>prepping for exams with my college friends group
>separately from the others
>we overhear them bitching at the latent flunk-outs because their share of notes was either taking too long or is poorly made
>we get to see the pics of their best "notes" shared in the biggy group chat and I'm like thinking aloud
>"if you'll ever feel bad about yourself, remember that at least you aren't an all over the place fuck up like that..."
>realize I've interrupted our INTP as I've zoned out
>the INTP did NOT get the context
>the INTP thinks I'm bantering against him
>my brain goes "...oh no..."
>he banters "back", thankfully treating this as banter
>completely blown out by the awkwardness, don't even explain myself

Case #2.
>my favorite INTP professor goes on a side rant during a seminar
>(you can already guess where this is going)
>he goes on around basic philosophy but in an engaging enthusiastic way
>I am not even aware much that I just end up participating often
...
>"...so, of course, you can't just accept at face value whatever it is that an expert may say..."
>nod nod
...
>"...and so, well, that was the conclusion so far. You'd believe that I'm making sense, right?"
>since I did listen to the given points, of course I go exactly: "uhhhm, no."
>his expression is like he got a reality check that's 10 times more rough that would've been needed for the point to go through
>my brain goes "...oh no..."
>looks away
>"ohh..."
>thinks through as he recollects himself for whole 4 dead silence seconds
>"...ohhh right, I did say to be skeptical. Yes that's sensible..."
>the entire class goes to reassure him that we do believe him actually
>thankfully my existence becomes a memoryholed taboo
>literal /r9k/ greentext nightmare fuel
>I just shut myself up

Grant/Brownsword deniers may not like it but Fe trickster => Fe inferior dynamic is the best explanation here.

>>83743661
>major
Maybe.
>unlovable
Debunked.
>faggot
Debunked.

>>83743909
no. i still not get u for my other posts. i don't post for free.

>>83743925
do you speak your thoughts without realizing?

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>>83743889
Sometimes I laugh at disabled people if they tell a funny joke.
I had sex once it was horrible since we weren't married.
Is foot fetish a weird kink feems normal
I'm not over or underweight anymore, but I need to squat more so that I get a bigger butt
I had a picture with a gun but I lost it
I don't do drugs!!@ ^_^
I cleaned up all my trash before!! ^_^ but there is 1 single wrapper does that count?
I don't ever masterbate except when I become possessed by the devil and can't control myself, mostly I just cum from my dreams once in awhile.
I'm not political since politics is fake, the machine has captured both sides there is no point in it unless you want to make the world worse that's why trannies like to read fascist novels so much.
I'm not short cause I'm tall.
I shower often enough! ^o^
I don't have any free time cause I'm so busy playing league of legends (joke)

>>83744004
>TE lives with his parents
What would papa and mama think if they knew their son was chasing an e-girl who doesn't even want him online for years on end?

Does it count as grooming if the relationship is 100% purely textual?

>>83744008
Actually I live with my grandma cause she's old and demented and needs help with food and stuff

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Hmm let's recall proportions of IRL reactions ENTJs have over me...
>amused
>pissed off
>amused
>amused
>irritated
>appalled
>appalled
>appalled
>appalled
>appalled
Yup I'm an INTJ for sure.

>>83743938
That'd be probably completely normal if we're not being pedantic on this.

>>83744018
Absolutely.

>>83743889
Not a even remotely a typology question.

>>83744040
Poor Grandma, unaware of the horrors of the internet, it is perhaps good that she is demented.

>>83744087
>Hmm let's recall proportions of IRL reactions ENTJs have over me
which mbti types give you the best reactions

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this gen is. graveyard bye bye i will sn yuo oferings in the aftelif to psionialy atack my foes ith your poweful self-pojection PSI abilities and self-induce skizophrnias, ritual rewrite gnder dysmoria into teh lifeplan

Leave a litle seroquel an light a litol incense
The benzos are mine

i wonder wen the webforum woven incel on thiss board die, their shitpost-bond-spirits dive into The desuarchive?


Put biche on Welfare and Shiwt


Ohhhhhhhhh dym daim shit Fuck
oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Ob o O Oh Oh h h

Bye bye, shity series i Hope it dosnt get season renewal

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>>83744096
Probably ESxPs, ENTPs, ENTPs, INTPs I guess... It also helps that the first three don't take it personally when I get pissed off or have to shut down and end up becoming abrasive. I don't get pissed off at INTPs thankfully.
Actually the backhanded compatibility with ESTPs is extra weird. We're suddenly friends after we're right about to tear each other up? Huh? Sure? And and we mean it? Huh? This happened more times than I remember? Do Se-ggers really?

ISTPs sometimes kinda get appalled at me like ENTJs do... But they're like indifferently more welcoming, until they kind of aren't anymore. Actually, they do give interesting reactions, but only when they completely don't expect anything good.
ISTJs (all types more in the Jungian sense than 16p meme ones) kinda uhh... If it wouldn't be for me handling conflict risks like a pro (only whenever I'd like to), we'd have blow-ups all the time.
INFJs are 50/50 amused and/or appalled.

>>83744283
>ENTPs, ENTPs
you seem to rlly like entps.
>>83744280
vry dead. i will leave too

>>83744283
are you patchy or the red head

>>83744280
shabbat shalom little jew girl, hope you have a nice day with Yah,m, see you next time you get boredio

>>83744087
>if we're not being pedantic on this.
thats what we do

>>83737073
Can someone tell me the answer to this and or explain how it's typology related?

because jung was an alchemist as the fundamentals of psychological research is all about creating a philsophers stone within your psyche and typlogy is about collecting all your neighbors stones to take over the world, kinda like sonic

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>>83743542
>why do you have these?
Same reason I have a bunch of age-inappropriate clothing.

>>83743889
I'm on the edge of being a 'Reggy' but here you go anyway.

>>83744489
handcuffs and leather whips are not age appropriate for anyone!!! >_<""

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Heres whats left of my military stuff.
My paratrooper beret was eatten by moths. And these medals and patchs are just basic stuff. Everything else was stolen by my nephew who's obsessed with the military.
>>83743908
>I found it interesting when I was dating a weeaboo girl how they basically run their hobby also as a side hustle. Reselling lots of different things so they can buy more new things they want.
I mean it makes sense right? She might as well make money to feed her addiction.
I'm not really a reseller anymore, I more a "sourcing specialist" for volume resellers. Basically I know how to find niche categories via "networking" with small time resellers (neets/college kids/immigrants), these guys won't turn down 50-65% of the retail value upfront. Then I sell the items en masse to a large reseller typically for 75% of the sold comps value.
This is a masssive over simplification but you get it right?
...
It's all very "Jewish" in a stereotypical sense and I'm moving towards production because I wanna actually make something.

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Alright I gotta go watch an anime now, because I'm an unironic femcel with no man around.

>>83744719
>watch an anime now
which anime are you going to watch

>>83744761
A guy told me 'you'll love Tanya the evil', so I'm gonna check it out. If it sucks, I'll probably watch one of those "I'm a villianess" shojos.

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i fucking love "over sharers"

my retard in christ this life is unfathomably brief. boredom or the feeling of having reached the "end of the puzzle" so to say in your interactions with a person are a skill cap of your own. we can always learn more about each other. we can always deepen our understanding of even the most "shallow" traits

>>83744903
>Tanya the evil
that was a fun one. i think its getting another season soon too. maybe il watch it again soon.

>>83745006
>we can always learn more about each other. we can always deepen our understanding of even the most "shallow" traits
nope you can't always do that because it's not always your choice. if the other person chooses not to have that as an option there's nothing you can do about it except cry which doesn't help.
>.t crying right now

https://youtu.be/6QGJwGUa5sw
the hot dog part is stuck in my head I hope it gets stuck in yours now too

>>83741148
Ohhh so this is Lilac!
Why wasnt there any yous? Your princess is finally here

sumone watch a moobie wit me
il let u choose

>>83745384
Let watch welcome to derry, on a small dose of shrooms

opinions on the enneagram?

>>83745399
ok but i ony liek shrrom on my piza

>>83744324
Everyone likes ENTPs unti they have to personally deal with one.
Or you are a ESxJ, in that case you will probably despise them because half of what they do is subverting common reason.
And I guess INxPs have a much higher tolerance especially INTPs who in many cases might be mistyped/distorted Jungian EN(T)s.
t. take a guess

>>83745577
lucky digits but why entp twice? do you doubly liek em is the 2nd entp posed to be sumthing else?

>>83745611
That wasn't my post
But I'm guessing anon meant ENTJ

umm anons, i'm an enneagram 4.

At least you aren't IF(N)?

imagine being infp but telling everyone your infj

Sounds a good idea on paper, but you can't hide the Fi-groidism for too long.

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Was thinking that a lot of time ago I read that Jung himself didn't put so much emphasis on the functions and especially not the dynamics involving the auxiliary functions because 90% of PT is actually about extraverts/introverts. The latter is a fact yes, but these niggas should have read what came right after it, both written text and seminars: he kept rapid firing definitions (the famous "sensation tells you there is something, thinking *what* it is" etc. etc., he repeats that quite a lot in different words, sometimes adds more to it) about how you are supposed to proceed from the so-called "fight" between auxes to the inferior. Not to mention both him + V.F. said they do that in analysis, so they have a method even, it's not merely theoretical musings.

The argument is often used to credit Grant/Beebe and the likes with their cog. function theories but ACTSHUALLY Jung already had his version long before them. He just never wrote that in PT possibly because he thought about it later. They somehow didn't fucking read it.
About that, pretty sure I shared this before, but when he wrote most of the material for PT he was still mostly coming from mixing introversion with thinking/sensation and extraversion with feeling/"representation"(proto-intuition? Kinda wish he said more about it, but I still remember him calling it that way), he only really managed to separate that later before actually publishing the book.

Have a funny Erika Se-groid moment for your trouble.

>>83745892
He did that with intent, the functions are not very important at all. They're quite literally the least important thing of his model. But people latch onto them because they're easy to concretize and build faulty models around where the functions are the center of the model.
Heresy.

>>83745935
No. You are. Wrong. Again.

>>83745935
Historical context given by him and shitting out a bunch of meme circles(along with multiple definitions and re-definitions) claims otherwise.

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I know everyone here is a loser,
>But what kind of loser are you?
Pick the one that applies to you most.

>>83746168
>Weeb(if you aren't to any degree, what the fuck are you doing on this website?)
>Atheist
>Nostalgia Fag(in media mainly, it was mostly better back then ok)
>Conspiritard(somewhat)
Probably not the highest score. I would add gooner but not really, easily go weeks or sometimes months forgetting to touch myself because huh terminal intuitard syndrome.

>>83746203
>if you aren't to any degree, what the fuck are you doing on this website?
Whoa there BUDDY, don't you know how fuckin /pol/ is the center of 4chan now and they hate "tranime", its cause all the reddit refugees came here and went to pol. This hasn't been an anime centric site since AT LEAST 2016 if not before that

>>83745938
I would expect nothing less of a Junglet such as yourself.
>>83745940
That doesn't really counter, nor even address the point I was making.

Jung was always super opposed to the idea of systematization, and focusing on functions does exactly that. Systematize typology. It turns it into a rigid structure to categorize identities to protect the ego.
Again, which is exactly the opposite of what Jung spoke about. Functions were never intended to be the focal point, or the center, or the building the blocks.

But, everyone reads Jung through the modern conceptualization of typology and so what they see is a projection of their understanding of MBTI where functions are the centerpiece for the ego to identify with.

>>83744004
Foot fetish is a weird kink TE. How do you not have a car and get to work?
>>83744489
What depraved shit we talking about? Depraved to normies? or depraved to 4channers? Cause there is a BIG difference.
>>83744719
How are you sexist? Like against men?
What are your depraved fwtishes? Are talking rape fantasies? It's rape fantasies isn't it.

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>>83746236
That was non-negotiable and I will fucking activate all your complexes at once by sheer animeposting and aggressive EN(T)-fagging if I have to.

>>83746168
Conspiritard. I unironically believe the lizard alien shit, although I think it's more metaphysical (higher dimensional influence rather then physical lizards from another planet eating people).

I also thing certain stuff is fake like chem trails and flat earth and mud floods and space death fungus and is meant to distract. Some (like death fungus) I'm almost certain is some influencers prank, but flat earth I think is glowie psyop shit.

>>83746245
>everyone reads Jung through the modern conceptualization of typology
Do you have a source for that?

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>>83746300
>Gotta source, demand source need source

>>83746300
Yes.
>*points at every post patchy has ever made*

>>83746311
I'll accept your resignation. You can't possibly know what everyone does. The premise is obviously flawed. If you build your arguments on such shoddy foundation it is fated to fall.

>>83746311
My source is the collective unconscious, which means if you look within hard enough you will find out the same archetypal and eternally valid idea.
So yes literally it came to me in a dream but more Jungianical.

>>83746245
>, everyone reads Jung through the modern conceptualization of typology and so what they see is a projection of their understanding
How ironic.

>>83746352
Would you like to elaborate on your thought to any extent, anon?

>>83746370
I would think it obvious to anyone of moderate intelligence and insight.

>>83746375
>anyone of moderate intelligence
Where do you think you are?

>>83746375
Deflection is a poor coping mechanism, anon.

>>83746292
>although I think it's more metaphysical (higher dimensional influence rather then physical lizards from another planet eating people).
Like an evil god? That's more "religious" and less conspirational if you ask me.
Unless you are trying to imply there is a group of humans who figured out how to extert influence from a higher plane.
>but flat earth I think is glowie psyop shit.
Ya probably. Does sound like a very strange thing for people to just casually believe nowadays, it's unrelated to pretty much any [current thing], it doesn't seem to follow from any remotely plausible motive, AND it gets brought up a little too often when people want to call you a conspiritard.

>I do not know how other people would set about this task. I can only tell you how I myself have tackled it, and I must bow to the charge that my way of solving the problem is the outcome of my personal prejudice. This objection is so entirely true that I would not know how to defend myself.
We need more guys like him damn.
Also not a random topic, by problem he means "type problem" here.

Also muh governing principle was here, that was what I was searching for.
>One cannot be introverted or extraverted without being so in every respect. For example, to be "introverted" means that everything in the psyche happens as it must happen according to the law of the introvert's nature.
(later also applies to the functions)

>>83746265
>What depraved shit we talking about?
Ageplay and threesomes.

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>The contrast between introversion and extraversion is simple enough
The "simple" in question:

>There is, finally, a third group, and here it is hard to say whether the motivation comes chiefly from within or without. This group is the most numerous and includes the less differentiated normal man, who is considered normal either because he allows himself no excesses or because he has no need of them. The normal man is, by definition, influenced as much from within as from without.
So you telling me that, all along, the true normalfags were not the extraverts but actually the ambiverts? Holy trvke.
Also calling them "less differentiated" as per Jung literally means more primitive so lol lmao and kek even. I keep saying this guy would absolutely post here if he was alive.

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>>83747492
>Holy trvke.
Three wheels are better than 2? THinkinking

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>>83747554
How about 4?

>>83747594
how much do you think it costs to have some chinaman cycle you around on that all day

>>83747744
I have no idea if you can even get a ride of those anywhere nowadays, it's a 19th/early 20th century thing.
Still, probably just a few bucks.

https://youtu.be/CLXscW7E4XM

>>83747833
Never played CoD, is this real?

If america is trying to install democracies why did they support communists in destroying rhodesia?

Democracies are easier to manipulate with outside propaganda.

https://youtube.com/shorts/CNDRsc1lfes

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>>83744324
>>83745611
I meant ENFP.
Sometimes the positive reactions are rather misplaced...

>>83745614
>ENTJ
Uhh no. They're too thinking-groided. In that extraverted way. Like, only barely scraping the general why I wouldn't go with their flow despite me obviously doing some thinkoiding.

>>83745577
ENTP vs ESTP duo that were on seething frenemy terms were all ok with me (while uh I wasn't totally all ok with them myself). Really not meaning the 16p stereotypes.

>>83745006
>brief
*auto-expendable

>>83747492
Something something the therapist survivorship bias POV that a differentiated attitude is the one you see at the therapist coach as you don't care about the "faceless masses" you pass by in the streets.
Unless he also meant thirdie primitives. But even those cannibal ones would have at least an attitude differentiation. Or maybe not.

>>83745892
>ACTSHUALLY Jung already had his version long before them
I don't care for anything from Grant/etc that's not bruteforcing archetype tendencies based on ~8 manifestations (not I/E) the ~4 functions can be (differentiated vs undifferentiated vs what works vs what doesn't) and I haven't seen that in Jvng

>>83746168
I know what kind of loser (you) are at parties...

>>83746319
Have you tried actually asking me, pussy?

>>83748248
>I know what kind of loser (you) are at parties...
>alleged INTJ
>Goes to parties
Yeah nice try poser

>>83748248
>Have you tried actually asking me, pussy?
What, asking you why you misrepresent everything? Or why you read Jung through a post-modern-post-MBTI lens, and then try to force those two perspectives to fit together?

>>83748248
>Something something the therapist survivorship bias POV that a differentiated attitude is the one you see at the therapist coach as you don't care about the "faceless masses" you pass by in the streets.
Eh fair enough
>Unless he also meant thirdie primitives. But even those cannibal ones would have at least an attitude differentiation. Or maybe not.
He very much meant "ambiverts", the context was a third group specifically between the extraverted and introverted types, the source is one of the appendix to PT.

>and I haven't seen that in Jvng
Oh I just meant, he has his own ideas of how functions were supposed to interact with the type. Previously mentioned dynamics such as differentiating auxiliaries to reach the inferior function, a fight between them, bringing up the possibility of distorted types due to a person being coerced into having to differentiate one aux too early/ego identification mistakes etc etc.
But there is a time gap because initially it's true that he didn't care much about those or simply didn't think too deeply about them. Also iirc he said he wrote most of Psychological Types when he already had the misconception mentioned above, with anything involving the functions being added on a later time.

Speaking of Beebe though, I remember thinking he saw something relevant regarding the "7th function", which technically would be considered an undifferentiated aux getting merged with the opposing attitude, and actually the inferior function itself too because the whole point is that unconscious stuff is an undifferentiated blob where you cannot accurately separate contents. That did seem right to me even before going deeper into the Jungian rabbit hole.

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>>83748364
>Eh fair enough
>"ambiverts", the context was a third group specifically between the extraverted and introverted types, the source is one of the appendix to PT.
Yeah but where that "most of people" is at?

I mean it's one thing if a person is dispassionate, but actual classic ambivalence ("ambiversion") would be avolition, since the ego would be at the compass spot where no tension is made, no libido is flowing, nothing to exercise its executive function (coopted by archetype complexes or not) for.
If anything then, with The N*RMIES he tries to label as between the extraverts and introverts, it's more of a limited libidinal bandwidth so to speak, i.e. lazy differentiations are made instead of none, and you might be not sure what's the type because you don't have to work with much for analysis.
Of course would the therapy/pathology cases even neuroses bring more energy and contents than that.

>the "7th function", which technically would be considered an undifferentiated aux getting merged with the opposing attitude, and actually the inferior function itself too because the whole point is that unconscious stuff is an undifferentiated blob where you cannot accurately separate contents.
Yup this kind of easy flippability is why I rave on "trickster" function but not "demon critic parent" (though I could maybe argue against myself hard enough to see them as sensible at some point hmm...).

>>83748331
If I were remove your possible addiction to loaded questions, would you die?

>>83748493
>i.e. lazy differentiations are made instead of none, and you might be not sure what's the type because you don't have to work with much for analysis.
Well I don't think he literally meant 0 differentiation whatsoever, but less than a type you can quickly recognize by his typical and well differentiated attitude, where little ambivalence exists if not purely accidental. Also yea he wouldn't see too many of those in analysis.

>>83748331
Against my better judgement, let me answer by saying that it's one thing to try to merge everything in a weird mix of shit resulting in blatant contradictions, and taking valid ideas from multiple sources that don't really oppose each other. The example with the "7th function" here is fitting, since that points out at a dynamic that exists in Jung except in a completely different framework.

>>83747954
nigga still cryin bout rhodesia hahahahaha they were getting raped already the fall was inevitable

>>83748544
Rhodesia was betrayed by the filthy British losers like kier starmer who love only power and the destruction of their countrymen

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'Herr Jung, King of the Jungian psychology, was once perusing the wares of a local bazaar. The great hall of goods had surpassed his expectations, and as such, the good Herr Jung was in dire need of assistance to carry his bags of new woodcarving trinkets. The wise scientist thought it best that a great Jungian assist him, for then his rewards would go to that Jungian and not a rigid rationalist.
The King asked to the people, "Who among you is a true Jungian?"

A young man in a graphic t-shirt said to him "I am a true Jungian! I've even learned how to use imagination just from reading Jung, and I am fully fluent now!"
"You are not a true Jungian." said the King.

Another young man said to the King, "I am a true Jungian! I've read every book from Jung, I read all sorts of his letters, I know alchemy, my room is full of woodcarvings and I even own a Jung body pillow!"
"You are not a true Jungian." said the King.

A young man in an Jung t-shirt carrying bags of Jungian books said to the King, "I am a true Jungian! You can tell from just one look at me! I watch so much Jungian documentaries that I can speak Jungspeak, and my Jung body pillow stands up on its own! I also love circles, UUUUUOOOOH!"
"You are not a true Jungian." said the King.

[...]

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The crowd was a in a fervor- each man seemed like more of an Jungian than the last, but yet even the man clad in Jungian faces was not the same level of Jungianism as Herr Jung?
Just then Lord Herr Jung saw behind the crown a man in his mid-20's, dressed discreetly purchasing a Funko Pop of Carl Gustav Jung.
"You there! Do you think yourself a true Jungian!"
"No, my Herr." The man was clearly embarrassed to have been seen buying Jungian merchandise.
"And for what reasons are you not a true Jungian?"
"My Herr, I can't understand the difference between emotions and extraverted feeling even after years of study. I know nothing about analytical psychology beyond the most popular blogposts. I have no great collection of Jungian wares - this is my first item. I have only read chapter X of Psychological Types. I'm clueless in matters of archetypes and synchronicities and I do not even have a favourite Jungian quote. There are countless great borrowed Greek and Latin that I have yet to look up translations for. I've recently started projecting onto others at work. And perhaps the worst of it Herr Jung is this - I prefer Freud and 16p."
"This man" - Herr Jung points at him, "is a true Jungian!"

>>83748571
>British losers
They're some of the worse people throughout history. They've fucked over so many other cultures.

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>>83748652
Fucking cursed. Man-made horrors beyond comprehension.

>>83748571
Rhodesia were the British filthy losers you dumb nigger. They lost lmao why do fags online like to larp about it so much

>>83748724
They never lost a fight though,,, they "Lost" due to international banking fucking them over.

The guerilla's were funded by Both the Communists and the Americans while the good brits were told to eat shit and die.

>>83748762
>Never lost
if you wanna cope and not count their full history
>good brits
lmfao there's a reason the boers got ousted while white minorities in other non-european countries live today without a hitch. Boers were doomed anyway and it's good they're dead cope harder

>>83748915
>in other non-european countries
such as?

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>>83748540
>let me answer by saying that it's one thing to try to merge everything in a weird mix of shit resulting in blatant contradictions
Except, that's exactly, and I mean EXACTLY what happens.

>>83748944
Japan. America. England

>>83748915
>lmfao there's a reason the boers got ousted
>>83748953
so it's because of the niggers?

Any nation can only exist when only it's people are there. Two nations cannot exist together in the same borders.

>>83748951
Could happen if one doesn't pay enough attention to his logic, but that is a different issue than being faithful to Jung and only to Jung without taking in any other valid idea for some reason. The man himself wasn't even doing that with his own thinking, why should anyone else

>>83748975
It was because they tried to live with them and rule over them instead of expulsion.

The israeli-palestinian example is the correct way of how to rule over people who don't belong in your land. Ethnic cleansing, else your nation will crumble.

>>83748989
Turkey and China don't have kike or sandnigger issues

>>83748953
>america
>european
>america is not in europe it's in the americas.

>>83748989
>The israeli-palestinian example is the correct way of how to rule over people who don't belong in your land. Ethnic cleansing
But the palestinians haven't ethnically cleansed the israelis though

>>83749022
Wrong end of the example abdul

>>83748989
Erm sorry but Canada is the correct way to deal with this stuff: you bring in 6 million jeets a year until your own culture is destroyed, no one can afford a house, no one can get a job, and then you blame America and ally with your enemy China who's actively trying to destroy you. That's what you do.

>>83749020
>Turkey sandnigger issues
turks are arabs.

>archetypal inflation from the outside
tfw you artfully avoid archetype possession with active imagination or whatever, but the environment makes it happen anyway...
This sounds extravertoid as fuck though, introverts wouldn't fall for this... I guess?

>>83749029
No i'm pretty sure it's the correct one, shlomo

Guys. Guys. Fuck off to /pol/
>>>/pol/

Or make it typological :)

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I went through desuarchive. TE really really REALLY hates America & Europe... ....so what kind of third world brown skin do you think he is?

How the fuck does INFJ-A always have bitches wanting to take him. Rxy/Mosley/lilac basically called him hot, Mel said she likes him, diarygirl tried to fuck him and then raged after he dumper her.
What is his appeal again?

>>83749095
"I can fix him!".
Alas, poor deluded bitches.

>7th function
Is that what number we're on now? Really, 7 functions? From 2 attitudes, to 4 functions, to 5 functions, to 7. I hate to sound like a broken record here, but 7 functions? Are there really 7 functions? The functions, 7 of them?

>>83749095
>What is his appeal again
He's a namefag that talks about himself as other characters. Some of his characters will attack them to make them feel alienated and isolated. Then he swaps to his infj persona to act nice to them. This pushes them into thinking he's one of the only nice posters when in reality there's many nice anons but ironically he makes up a large amount of the agro anon posts. Essentially he is outsmarting them with his superior knowledge of psychology.

>>83749073
>TE really really REALLY hates America & Europe... ....so what kind of third world brown skin do you think he is?
Latinx and real dark and ethnic given how butthurt he is against white cultures.
Proof: he is expected to work and take care of relatives, is extremely distrusting of anyone not a blood relative and is mindlessly Christian.

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Wow the appearance of the shitposter always correlates with me losing interest in the thread.
Only 1 poster is that reliable in inducing my disinterest like that...

>>83749116
Anything in the psyche could be(come) a function, all thanks to the transcendent function, technically.

>>83749041
Good question.
I had just run into a saved quote from Symbols of Transformation, p. ~195. I'm really high on synchronicities lately. Hopefully this consistency will disappear if I'll call it out hmm...
>the two fundamental mechanisms of the psyche, extraversion and introversion, are also to a large extent the normal and appropriate ways of reacting to complexes - extraversion as a means of escaping from the complex into reality, introversion as a means of detaching oneself from external reality through the complex

By the way, what did you mean with your post, exactly? I get the off topic as the context, but...

>>83749073
>REALLY hates America & Europe
That's every "white" "alt-right" out there.
I wonder if Moore covered that hmm...

>>83749116
bib's theory has 8 funcitons, 4 of them called "shadow functions". For instance the ENTP stack would become Ne-Ti-Fe-Si(Ni-Te-Fi-Se shadow)
Disagree with his entire framing and most of the dynamics that came from him, but there were exceptions such as a very valid point on the 7th function(Fi in this case) because in reality that would just be a result of undifferentiated "lower" auxiliary for EN(T) getting merged with the unconscious introversion, it wouldn't make much sense for this lower function to somehow work well with the conscious attitude when it can barely access consciousness in the first place. Though when it does, I do expect the EN(T) in question to use it "extravertedly".

>>83749148
"Anon"... "Listen"... Your functions, they spin.

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>>83748978
The core of the problem is precisely his logic. If you pay it even an iota of attention it crumbles into overly intellectualized dust. His logic does not carry life, it carries the empty rationale of an ego who is clinging to safety of logic drawing empty correlations between systems in order to concretize symbols and reduce them to dust and coherent safety.
Any symbolism is reduced to concrete logic and loses its symbolic life. Which I've repeatedly pointed to as the problem, his overly intellectualized, rigid understanding of archetypes. They completely lose their meaning, and that meaning is traded off for a conceptualized understanding.

THAT is the problem. His logic. Specifically its autonomous, psychological complex laden structure which only appeals to rational understanding at the expense of symbolic meaning.
One cannot even engage in symbolic language with him, because he kills it and misrepresents it with gay ass strawmans.
He only has books.
WORDS learned from other people.
Concepts lacking life.
Bound by rigid, onesided logic.
>>83749095
It's because I r-[redacted] :^)
>>83749111
Maybe it's because I don't need fixing? Ever think about that? I'm not some broken toy looking to be duct taped together only to fall apart once the duct tape gets a little wet.

>>83749148
>I get the off topic as the context, but...
No I was just reading from the pdfs and summed it up instead of straight quoting, context isn't the thread. Apparently that is a thing.

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>>83749167
Hmm wrong meta-context guess, I'm talking about the side extension by Jung on willpower, memory, imagination, etc. Not the cramming into the compass.

>>83749171
I'm not convinced because this is extremely heavy-handed, shallow, and doesn't speak to my poetic side . . .

I don't hate Europe or America, I want the Europeans to wake up and realize they're being slaughtered. Look at Poland as an example of a proper European nation

>>83749171
>I don't need fixing
holy mother of all red flags

>>83749196
I've learned my lesson about you. Remove the life from all words, make it rigid, logical, and devoid of all symbolic meaning, make it as heavy handed and shallow as possible.
That's your language, that is the medium through which you understand life.

Why would I speak to you in a language you fundamentally do not comprehend, nor even speak? You don't speak in poetry. You don't speak in symbols. You speak in cold, lifeless steel. Whoops, sorry, I accidentally used a symbol, don't strawman me.
>>83749227
Lmao. You're funny. I like you.

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>>83749258
Euuuhhmmmm.......

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>>83749199
Aren't they sucking the teat of Western Europe to barely keep their non-existent economy afloat? You Americans idealize this joke of a country for it's "whiteness", when it's a nation of alcoholic toilet cleaning slavs.

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>>83749282
Omega lol get massively baited.

>>83749134
>Some of his characters will attack them to make them feel alienated and isolated. Then he swaps to his infj persona to act nice to them.
This is actually an SSS tier tactic I myself have used IRL. Basically you love bomb them, then insult their ego then ignore them and start then start the cycle again. My guess for each reggy foid is:

>Rxy
It would work for a couple cycles before she figures it out, then shed textwall about how "used" she felt and have a good cry and move on.
>Mel
Same as rxy except she wouldn't textwall about her feelings.
>Lilac
Would work like a charm until some other guy got her attention.
>Turbie
Would work great on her. The guy would eventually get disgusted with her and move on, because centuar basically did this to her.
>Dairygirl
Same as lilac except diarygirl is more HPD/BPD so more stalking yandere stuff.
>Togatanon
He has NPD so when the ego insulting begins he'llstorm out. But it would work with the other two tactics.
>Patchy
Is an over thinker. Basically you'd have to really hate bomb his arguments until he was exhausted and then step in as the "savior".
>INFJ-A
Make it seem like everyone is against him and then allow him to "own" all the haters and then exhaustively compliment him for such epic ownage
>TE
Insult his religion until he is raging, then pretend to be a cutesy UwU 12yo manic pixy girl that defends him

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>>83749321
Yeah I thought it's weird: either a second Jung-user anon appeared, or you BOUGHT a 4PASS to post UNDER the 60 second limit.
And I see we have no new people here...

>>83749340
>BOUGHT a 4PASS
LMAO, people actually spend money to be able to shitpost faster?

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>>83749340
I am every poster here, that's how I Te and Turbie are the same person. They're both me. I'm even (you).
I sure hope the joke didn't go over your head.

>>83749289
Poland's economy is booming, they just passed 1 trillion euros GDP

>>83749332
>because centuar basically did this to her.
When did this happen?

>>83749171
>Maybe it's because I don't need fixing? Ever think about that? I'm not some broken toy looking to be duct taped together only to fall apart once the duct tape gets a little wet.
I KNOW a there is girl out there that will fix me, probably just losing a virginity is enough. Go from -T to -A. Just cause you're coming cynical doesn't mean that's right. Without a GF I am nothing.

>>83749171
>Maybe it's because I don't need fixing?
literal NPD
>>83749171
>I'm not broken
Lol, okay mike

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Anyhow of course I wouldn't bother with symbolics.
Who do you think you are?
Where do you think you are?
The hell do you think you've been doing?
Don't make me laugh.

>>83749332
Did you just project your exhaustion after your failed attempts?

>>83749403
> from -T to -A
Tits to ass? WTF does T&A mean?
>Just cause you're coming cynical
He cynical cums? Learn English you ESL MFer.

>>83749435
Nigga I could destroy I just chose not too cause I got better shit to do. You think you're something? You think you're special?

>>83749448
-T and -A are from 16p, they mean turbulent or assertive.
The former is characterized by constantly needing self-assurance, the other by having it in spades. I think it was meant to correspond to neuroticism in Big Five.

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>>83749471
r8gb8 char count ratio

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>>83749403
I'd offer you some advice, or even critique your perspective. But, I'm not out here trying to start fires in the psyche of the weak minded. Carry on looking for that solution, maybe you'll find it.
>>83749424
>If you have any confidence in yourself as an individual you're a narc!
I guess I'm a narc then! :)
>>83749435
I think I'm (me).
I think I'm (here).
I've been (doing) exactly what I was (doing).

But, naturally, of course you wouldn't bother with symbolism. You lack experience. You only have books. Like I said. Thanks for proving my entire point. You have no understanding outside of the words of other people. You just keep trying to systematize abstract concepts into concrete understanding without experience.

>>83749476
Ok thanks. So basically:
A is internally happy, T is fucked up internally so my guess is:
Assertive = Alastor poster, Mel, the ESFP guy
Turbulent = TE, Patchy, Diarygirl and togatanon, & that guy always complain he doesn't (u)s

Well the shit post it is starting, it's only a matter of time before they try to make it reggy vs regular nonsense. I like when it's cozy and not stupid so I'm leaving.

>>83749171
Don't know him well enough to make very personal judgments but, I will do what my type does best and point out at a more optimistic possibility: he has 2L which means the logic represents not his core and raw lifestream, but rather something more playful/useful. Typically it also implies openness from this side, but one can still shut it down if there are other personal motives for doing do(excluding merely having his perspective appear faulty, 2Ls shouldn't be too concerned over this normally given rationally valid reasons to doubt it.)

Since that's behavioral more than anything, this perspective is probably more fitting than using Jungian typology.
For what's worth basically any type with differentiated thinking can do this.

>>83749562
>reggy vs regular nonsense
What is it wasn't nonsense and there was proof?

>>83749487
>Great rage bait mate state gait fate nate eight wait
You started it MFer now you're mad I'm not gonna reddit argue about your specilations. Do you know why I win and (You) lose? because I can integrate my shadow and you can't. Now keep intellectualizing and rationalizing and conceptualizing while live in the real world.

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>>83749488
Did you just call my all over the place scatterbrain mess I end up leaving here a systematization?
What ghetto dope did you fry your brains with?

Anyhowsies...
It appears you've cucked yourself out out of even trying to anti-linguistically (whom are we kidding? You're a language addict) understand the understandings of the potential understandings you hold but refuse to understand via understanding understoods of overstood prestood over standing poststanding integrative understanding... Many such cases... Sad... Read Robert Moore maybs? Maybe you'll get your symbolics attempts out of LLM tier gutter, even Moore is good enough for a level up...
Actually, no. You're right. You shouldn't be worried about this. We can't possibly give suggestions when there's a CRIPPLING INABILITY made as a CONSCIOUS CHOICE. You're the ONLY True Jungian. :>

>>83749575
>What is it wasn't nonsense and there was proof?
>>83749590
>conceptualizing while live in the real world

I told you ESL MFers to learn English. Put your garbled brownlish into an AI and have it correct your grammar and diction for fucks sake.

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>>83749590
Too incomprehensible. The entire thread is worried about you... So repeat that again without sounding mad. Thanks!

>>83749095
> diarygirl tried to fuck him and then raged after he dumper her.
INFJ-A that is NOT what happened! take your medication! Your mind is warped beyond rewiring!
> What is my appeal again?
> Samefagging in 3rd person for personality scores
> How the fuck does INFJ-A always have bitches wanting to take him. Rxy/Mosley/lilac basically called him hot, Mel said she likes him
Foids love alastor, the appeal lies almost completely within the avatar. The actual person is a shut-in loser refreshing the update button every other minute.

>>83749620
>No ur mad
You're a spaz asperger who textwalls with your second hand knowledge form Wikipedia, you don't discuss anything, you try to brute force your opinions.
>IF I SPAM POST ENDLESSLY THAT MEANS IM RIGHT
Guess what bitch? Posting until the other side gets board and leaves doesn't mean you're right LOL.

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>>83749672
This is probably 10/10 bantz but where's the comprehensible tldr for the homies?

>>83749667
>Samefagging in 3rd person for personality scores
Why do you believe this foid brain?

>>83749693
The little girl oh wanted to FUCK me so badly let my NPD take control of the narrative. Pretty sure you got deleted because of some weird underage fetish no? Because the Ipad kid wouldn't watch /rekt/ with you?

INFJ-A is the greatest man ever with adonis blood. Every ho wants to fuck him and he's an enlightened GOD who transcends reality like Neo in the matrix and he has 227 IQ and laughs at you peasant while masterminding thread drama for his own amusement because you're all ants to his mighty visage.

>>83749777
His pubic bush extends to his wrists and he posts on 4chan daily.

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>>83749777
Dude like no cap, even your self depreciating "jokes" are still just ego stroking. And I thought togata had a big ego sheesh.

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>>83749777
He touched a minor