> spend 40 to sometimes even 50 hours studying a week> only get Bs and Cs for my quizzes and examsAm I really this retarded? I think my next quarter, I'm should only take 2 classes as having 3 classes is too difficult to manage
My classes are online and I just use chatgpt
>>83865184My classes are all in person due to AI. I can use AI for the homework, but that's useless. It'll just impede my learning
>>83865167I got As barely studying you might just be stupid
>>83865167>Doesn't mention the courseYeah maybe you are retarded
>>83865167Do you have homework at college? Here in Italy I have to take an exam in 6 months about 3000 pages. The professors don't even prepare written texts, you just go there and they ask you some random questions for 1 hours about the 3000 pages of human anatomy you have studied alone at your home during 6 months
>>83865167>he has to studyOver before it began. You either have a photographic memory or youre a servant
>>83865167are you taking math or some retarded shit like that, they dont teach and that shit is retarded if ur not math brained, if ur in anything else u might have something going on in ur brain
>>83865465>not math brainedYou can just say low iq anon
>>83865167i got bs and few cs barely studying.
It depends on what you're studying
>>83865434They're computer and electrical engineering classes>>83865453> Do you have homework at college?How do you learn to apply your knowledge if you aren't assigned homework? Do you guys do labs instead?>>83865455I thought people with great memory still do bad at quizzes and exams since their knowledge isn't organized and they don't connect the info. >>83865465> are you taking mathNo I'm just doing computer engineering with a focus on hardware
>>83865522Do you still remember the info from the previous quarter? I think I might have to take only two courses instead of the usual three since I'm forgetting the stuff I learned from previous classes>>83865529It's just computer engineering. A lot of people say it's easy, but it doesn't seem like it for me
>>83865534An engineering major without math? Seems strange
>>83865547It's a certain type of math, but it's more application-based than it is about exploring math
>>83865541>compengduh obviously its hard its a fucking engineering degreemost people probably are getting Cs and Bs too
>>83865746> most people probably are getting Cs and Bs tooI thought computer engineering was considered to be easier. I got accepted into the major last quarter and it's been hell on earth for me ever since
>>83865534Most in engineering got Bs & Cs. It's not usually a field people obsess about GPA in; just get through it
>>83866609Yeah, but what if I want to do a masters in the field? I know that a GPA is something they consider
>>83865791>subjecting himself to hell for a field getting raped to death by jeets and AIFor what purpose?
>>83865428Same.Eng degree, too.>>83865167There are three components to this. Mediocre schools have garbage teaching so exams and tests are balls to the walls hard. If you're in that case like I was, ignore all classes and use khan academy for mandatory topics that aren't part of your actual focus. Just 2 hours a semester will allow you to completely ace the course (I'm not kidding).However, for things in your focus, you should have the will and drive to self-teach in a way that it shouldn't hinder you at all.Some programs have fuckton of workloads, mostly in things like comp sci where they may expect you to solo carry a 5-man """team""" projects in 3 of your 5 classes simultaneously this semester. You just have to grind it, nothing else can be done there. In biology you might have to go in the early hours of the morning to start a gel or feed some rats. Again you have to get used to it, your real job will be like that as well.Finally, you could just be a retard.
>>83865791Comp eng is harder than other engineering degrees. Other engineers will claim otherwise because of sour grapes. They wouldn't know any better and they tend to be pretty retarded. Just to be clear: those people who say it's easy think you're learning how to use word and excel.
>>83865534If you're struggling in the CE and EE classes themselves, it's entirely on you. Those are easy even if your teachers won't teach you shit.
>>83867014> For what purpose?I wanted to get into Electrical and Computer engineering, but I got rejected from the major. So now I'm coping my way through the degree by specializing in hardware.If you saw the earlier replies, you'll see that I stated this.>>83867063> Mediocre schoolsI'm attending a T20-T50 school and they're doubling down on anti-AI assignments this year. I'm not sure how they're doing it, but it just seems like they're increasing the workload and having in-person quizzes, while forging midterms.I'm fine with the quizzes, but the increased workload is just screwing off kids who don't use AI since you're going to be drowning under homework>>83867070> Comp eng is harder than other engineering degrees.A couple other seniors told me the same thing and that I was kinda screwed to be in this field, due to it's difficulty.I went into comp eng thinking that I would have the best of both worlds of CS and EE, but I was wrong. The degree isn't about double dipping in either fields and applying their knowledge separately. Instead, it's about the integration of software and hardware, which is incredibly difficult as it's inherently a multidisciplinary.It's one of the reasons why computer engineers have one of the highest rates of unemployment. Their job requires much more from them and most recent comp eng graduates forgot all the knowledge of their past courses.This one senior advised that I do a masters due to this.>>83867079> If you're struggling in the CE and EE classes themselves, it's entirely on you.I honestly thought these classes were quite difficult to understand and remember on a deeply. I'm not sure how people thought they were easy to be begin with
>>83867141>I'm not sure how people thought they were easy to be begin withMostly it's because people who enter these programs tend to already know what they are about and to have tinkered during their teenage years around these topics (rather than the other way around).So to them it's already all natural.>I'm attending a T20-T50 school I assume you mean 'top' and not 'tier'. If it's closer to top 50, that qualifies as mediocre. If it's closer to top 20, those schools usually have the best teaching methodology overall and have very good agreement between teaching and examination (whereas at top schools like say, top 10, they typically have great agreement between teaching and exams, but terrible teaching methodology).
>>83867176> have tinkered during their teenage years around these topics (rather than the other way around)That makes sense. This one TA told me not to take notes because the info will come naturally. This is the same guy that started coding at 6 btw> If it's closer to top 50, that qualifies as mediocre. If it's closer to top 20, those schools usually have the best teaching methodology overall and have very good agreement between teaching and examinationI think it's somewhere in the middle
>>83867184So teaching is not the problem in your case. It could be that you just don't like the topic as much as you thought you would. Ultimately that is always required to some extent (like you don't need to love this, but you have to at least be able to see yourself doing that 40 hours a week for the rest of your life).You should reflect on the parts you like and don't like and see if you can transfer, many of your credits could apply in a program that might be more your speed. Talk to people if you can, that could also help you identify what might interest you more. Of course, always pay attention to possible job outcomes, don't make the mistake of following your passion.>This is the same guy that started coding at 6 btwYeah, it was basically the same for me and a big part of why I got straight A's without showing up in the first 2 years. Started at 8 and learned to solder a few years later as a bonus so I could play with analogs.
>>83867203> So teaching is not the problem in your case. It could be that you just don't like the topic as much as you thought you would.I know what I like and want to do, but the degree isn't a means to an end for it. Either way, I've began to like the subject and would like to continue learning about it. I do decent on quizzes and exams, but good on homework and labs. I'll just continue this pace and hope my GPA doesn't drop too much by the time I graduate.Or, just switch to doing 2 classes per quarter instead of the usual 3 to give me more time to understand the material
>>83867433>Or, just switch to doing 2 classes per quarter instead of the usual 3 to give me more time to understand the materialIf you can afford this delay, it is typically a good choice. It will also make it much easier for you to up your GPA.Unfortunately, when just out of college, GPA counts for a lot in many industries (though not all).Good luck.
>>83865167The average GPA for engineers is 2.8-3.0, everyone just pretends and larps because they are deeply insecure about being niggercattle. People who go through college or university and make it the endgoal usually end up at deadend jobs with no real clue at how to progress. Sure they might make a little bit of disposable income to get around, but they aren't truly maximizing their potential earned profits/income and stop progressing in their career after awhile too. You go hang around engineers/analysts/researchers/whatever, you realize pretty fast how many of them are posturing and looking for excuses to stop working so hard. I can't stand anyone in any career and that's why I decided to work for myself. Everyones a nigger, focus on your work and stop crying about perceived social status. These people are a waste of time. When I want to hangout with others, I avoid people in my preferred career paths and usually go hang around jocks and athletic people when I want to socialize. I fucking hate "deep thinkers" because they are usualy using "deep thinking" to mask the fact that many of their thoughts are worthless and they are neurotic spaz fucks.
>>83867455> Unfortunately, when just out of college, GPA counts for a lot in many industries (though not all).I had a professor told me that GPA matters very little when you get to the industry, but I'm a little hesitant to believe this. I think he was simply just trying to calm the class and the situation And thanks
>>83865541Anon do not listen to these baiters claiming they get As without studying.You will not pass any calc or engineering class without weeks of studying, As are rare, the best in my class after 5 semesters has a 2.4, which is a B- for Americans and he puts more effort into it than all of us, I basically just get the old exams and memorize them and get 3s/Cs because some questions are different.
>>83867962Your prof wouldn't know. Even if he had worked in industry, that would have been ages ago.But since we're on the topic, it roughly works like this: different industry put different importance on GPA. Most do care. The most common way they care is "did you have 4.0" or "did you not have 4.0". Simple binary. However a good amount of industries care on more of a scale as well. Moreover, the name of your school sometimes has more or equal weight than GPA. Sometimes you can have a 3.0 GPA from a great school and be considered over someone with a 4.0 GPA from an good but not well known school.Once you get your foot in the door (which is ideally done via internships, not grades), your GPA no longer matters. Your work experience and the name of the company you worked at is what matters. This can be a blessing or a curse: if you had 4.0 GPA from a top school, you could get an entry level job anywhere basically. If you chose a company that went bankrupt because they were doing fun work, you might now have the hardest time ever landing the next job. Things tend to snowball a lot there.
>>83867985You are free to disbelieve reality, but it will not change on your behalf. Projections like these are helping nobody.
>>83865167>College>Bs and Cseither everyone in this thread is underage retardmaxx or there is literally no reason that you people are in "college" and you have no idea why we had higher education in the past.
>>83868056It's OK, timmy, one day you'll be 18+ and allowed to post on 4chan, too!But really, nobody wants to hear what kind of amazing delusions you have come up with this time. The adults are speaking.
>>83867991Name an industry that cares. GPA was only ever used as a differentiator for kids who came from the same school who were entering the same company. That shit never happens anymore and kids are expected to have certifications, portfolios, internships, or volunteer experience BEFORE graduating. You might have some sort of queer argument for internships asking you about your grades, but not for any job at a regular company. It's a big mistake to add GPA even if you are 4.0, because it makes you look like you give a shit about your grade and not the skills or what you are doing. We are like 30 years removed from people being graded on a strict curve using pen and paper with a specific company in mind.
>>83868037Then you either get to a really good school or your IQ is in the 150s, which means you are not representative of the general university student.Or you just cheat on every exam and somehow didn't got caught.
>>83868082That's what I said. If a "college" kid ever started talking about getting A's or B's I would just assume he is in a special program for retards or immigrants. How many gold star stickers did you get this month so far?
>>83868094Fintech cares extremely deeply.Tech cares a lot in general, especially top companies and mom & pops shops. Quite a few startups specifically use that as an evaluation criterion.Biology depending on specialty tends to care (but they also care a lot about the degree level, so it's a bit different).Chemeng, if not other chem-related industries, as well.Portfolio aren't a thing in the vast majority of fields for obvious reasons and GPA has never been used to differentiate between kids from the same school.You clearly have never worked with or in hiring, nor talked to anyone who did.You are not forced to post when you don't know anything, you can also just read and learn.
>>83868118You have no clue what you're talking about. Tech is a troll comment, they have never cared and only look at your portfolio/skillset and maybe some certs, fintech is all certs, practically everyone in biology has 4s and there is no "biology" industry so you are mentally retarded, chemeng is also portfolio/publication heavy, you have never hired or worked with hiring managers so get off your high horse. I quite literally have no clue what a 4.0 or 2.0 represents at a school or program I never attended, I can only make sense of your actual achievements and experience. I can believe some companies or brand new managers consider it, I'm not going to even entertain the idea of a whole industry putting weight on GPA when no industry is tied to a specific university anymore.
>>83868161>tech>they look at your portfolio>skillset>maybe certsYou had me going for a moment but that's just awful. 3/8 b8. Try harder.
>>83868179>bro every new grad easily gets a job in the tech industry, they just need a bachelors degree in communications and write "4.0" next to it.society.
>>83868191Yeah that's the level of absolute delusion in >>83868161 's post. How does it even come to this I have no idea. Like if you are a dumb retard nobody's forcing you to post.
>>83868191This, and you should just sign up for an online university that has a high rate of giving 4.0s. Every tech company I know gives high paying jobs to people who simply took a few classes and got a good grade, their skills or projects don't even matter for a real job, only that they attended a class.
>>83868200Exactly. To be a truly successful chemical engineer you don't even need to have engineering experience, you should just take a gender studies class and get a good grade. That's how all my friends became billionaires.
>>83867985> claiming they get As without studyingI think I would rather lean towards believing this than the alternative, not because it's a cope but there's a certain amount of truth to it.Yes, studying will move the info into long term memory, but at the stage I'm at, it's more visceral. I need to study to organize the knowledge. I can't just sit there and remember ever since day one to answer a certain question on the quiz or exam. The Info is incredibly nested and it very easy to lose it if you don't connect it to your overall knowledge. The thing is, you're going to need every single piece of info given to be a competent engineer. This is due to the info having "multiple perspectives and layers" where prerequisite knowledge is needed to understand the overall concept.Most people skim by on remembering the superficial and leave the black box undiscovered as they simply forgot the knowledge needed to fully comprehend it. It's a brutal struggle that bites you back in the butt severely the deeper you into the field. With all this being said, I'm going to make some changes to my courses for next quarter. I talked to some other anons about this already tho
>>83867991> Even if he had worked in industry, that would have been ages ago.That makes a lot of sense and I've heard some of it before. The prof looks like the CEO of Apple so the guy's pretty old.
>>83868262Just talk to your mentor or job counselor.
>>83868278>mentor>job counselorGo be 12 somewhere else.
>>83868319Are you underage? What is this response.
