>Both chuds and troons were created by EpsteinHow are you all coping with this?
yes racism didn't exist before /pol/ especially on 4chan/new/ totally wasn't a thingthey totally didn't ban gamergate shit on sightthey ban racist posts outside of /pol/ because they secretly want us to be racist/pol/ is totally NOT just a containment board
>>83908290moot got rid of /new/ and then on the same day he met Jeffrey Epstein, a billionaire who was interested in manipulating people and culture around him for personal gain, he suddenly decided to recreate it as /pol/ which ultimately led to Epstein's "closest friend" getting elected President (twice).
>>83908317The whole sudden shift towards promoting his closest friend in a successful bid for President of the USA that took over the website in a frenzy because of a board stood up by moot on the day he met moot is certainly suspicious.
>>83908243Epstein wants you to think that. Bet you didn't consider that possibility.
>>83908290they didn't ban gamergate on sight. they thought it would run its course early on and were worried that if they nuked anything related to it as every other site did the autists here would go insane and revolt against censorship, which is exactly what happened. it's in their old logs from when it was going on, and they seemed to agree they didn't like zoe and thought she was a dramawhore (or regular whore) and thought /v/ was having fun. until they took it way too far. >>83908317containment board. there are archived threads of /r9k/ in 2009 begging for a specific news or politics board. they wanted the robot to run it and to have more moderation to keep the stormfags out but get it off /r9k/ because it was almost nothing but ronery and that, this was in a thread in june 2009 where moot floated the idea of creating /adv/ to keep relationshit off the board. now, the fact he changed /news/ to /pol/ after knowing /news/ had previously failed and so had /n/ even with the textboards the same day he brought back /r9k/ which is the day after speaking to epstein who repeatedly described him/the site as having great potential for manipulation/moot being sensitive but smart ie "good for grooming" sure seems to imply he was used for this, he clearly never seemed to like the board. but he did mysteriously seem to have extraneous cash on hand right after their meeting, even if he was trying to kill the monster he had literally created later when it spiraled out of control and attacked him during gamergate. hence pol harbor. also there was the whole, what was it, jidf? thing early on with /pol/. the same logs i am referencing from the janitor irc show them joking about how/if/when 4chan dies (or as they said moot just shoots it in the head and walks away) he would be blaming /pol/ for it, along with general jokes about his own jewishness. tl;dr containment boards don't work!!!!! until they entrench themselves into their niches too much to go anywhere else. see: /jp/.
>>83908344Epstein is behind everything even now.He had his body double killed to fake his own death and he's going to control the next 50 years of popular culture.
>>83908344Epstein is in the room with us right now, touching even more little girls as we speak.
>>83908348epstein is the REAL power behind the throne and ceo of troll inc
>>83908317Trump got elected for the second time because as soon as he receives the adelson money, the media stood down.You're fucking retarded and don't know anything about anything. You're a sucker who lives on headlines.
>>83908290>yes racism didn't exist before /pol/ especially on 4chanHonestly? No not really. People made jokes but actual racism was really uncommon
>>83908358>as soon as he receives the adelson money, the media stood down.Adelson was Trump's largest donor in both the 2016 and 2020 elections you retard. Never try to have an opinion again.
>>83908328>stood up by moot on the day he met mootproof of this? Hope you're not just making shit up and vibing it out.
>>83908290>they ban racist posts outside of /pol/ because they secretly want us to be racistwhen was the last time this happened fr
>>83908364It's in the first pic in the thread. Moot met Epstein on the day /pol/ was created.
>>83908290Racism on 4chan is a much loved tradition but it was always done with a strong sense of absurdity and irony. Caring too much about anything in a genuine matter, especially politics, was proof of emotional investment that could should and would be trolled to death. This clearly changed at some point and OP isn't in the wrong for noting the timing on it.
>>83908346how autistic do you have to be to write an entire paragraph saying nothing?
>>83908367it wasn't created, it was just renamed
>>83908372much more than you for responding with that to show how little you care, i assume. and deeply to care or know about this at all.
>>83908366happens all the time retard
>>83908373moot killed /new/ and then a while later someone (Epstein) convinced him to create a similar board except named after politics instead of news.Which coincidentally got used to politically enrich and secure the victory of Epstein's closest friend in his bid for the White House in 2016.You also had Ghislaine Maxwell, Epstein's gf, controlling Reddit, so no matter which side of any internet argument you were on for the past decade or so, Epstein controlled it.
>>83908362If we're being srs for a moment the general temperature of the site was always counterculture to whatever was popular, hence why the period of mainstream acceptance from 2008-2011ish was such an anomalous period. If post-9/11 american conservatism is the meme, it's leaning libertarian and mock intellectual progressive. If the liberals take over with identity politics, it's anti-that. Not really intentional or anything but just as the nature of being the redheaded stepchild asshole of the internet of websites with a famously antisocial userbase. It also had a higher barrier to entry. >>83908358"You're fucking retarded and don't know anything about anything. You're a sucker who lives on headlines." is not a sentiment that would be spammed 20,000 times across a single thread, at least not in the simplified "you are retarded and know nothing about nothing, jon snow" format. The entire Anonymous WE ARE LEGION WE BLAH BLAH BLAH Occupy shit was really was shifted the site more than anything, Chanology was more of a meme. Moot notoriously despised advertising especially for, yknow, what were basically raids and then later actual state-level hacking and leaks he was starting to get pulled into court over ala the Palin emails.
>>83908346>they didn't ban gamergate on sight.yes, yes they did, and the fact you're saying otherwise tells me you weren't there. it was completely verboten to talk about on /v/ and that's what killed its momentum. the discussion had to move to /pol/.
>>83908404assuming you actually went on 4chan or reddit sure. there are other sites
>>83908391you've been banned recently for racism, i take it?
>>83908391how could this possibly be true when 75% of this board and others is whining about niggers and jeets day in day outtheyd have to ban the entire place
>>83908366try it right now dumb fuck. say the word so some troon antifa /r9k/ tard can report it to a mod and get you a 3 day ban. first time here?
>>83908419nobody cares about saying the word nigger it's specific posts that will get you banned it has happened to me before too
>>83908404I love how you guys think a single reddit account moderating a single subreddit means anything outside of that subreddit. I had never heard of worldnews prior to the spamming of this everywhere. Why the fuck would I care what Maxwell shared on there or what porn Epstein looked at?
>>83908410Other sites like Twitter?
>>83908409i have the #janiteam irc logs open right now, do you want me to start quoting them at you? you can see what rapeape said directly.
Trump called Ghislaine Maxwell the most evil person on the planet in 2006. I'm curios how the investigation will go. Many already believe that she was the one running the OP.
>>83908427some people use websites other than 4chan, reddit, twitter, tumblr, facebook, pornhub, tiktok, yes.
>>83908362>but actual racism was really uncommonyou are a fucking retard who probably joined the website a couple years ago and doesn't know anything. racism was ALWAYS a staple on here, yes, genuine racism, people all over the website have been doing hitler apologism, talking about the superiority of "aryans" unironically and maximizing the use of racial slurs to cause offense and hurt feelings. i'm not making value judgements one way or the other on these things or saying i agree witth any of it, i'm saying it was always present, and you're a newfaggot who wasn't there to see it or you chose not to.
>>83908419yeah, it's my first time on 4chan ever. gottem. where are the upvotes?
>>83908432Not that anon, but>to cause offense and hurt feelingsYes, that's what it was like.Whereas later on what it turned into was people who genuinely believed in stormfront shit. Instead of saying nigger or drawing swastikas for the shock value the later era anons were unironically convinced of stormfront propaganda and working towards those goals, not because it was funny but because they were actually concerned about stuff like being right wing trad conservatives who were going to save the West. That in my opinion isn't really the same thing as how things were before.
>>83908432Anonymous 06/23/09(Tue)01:17:1 No.4561178everyone proposing enforcing rules against racism are dirty little faggots who need to gtfo off 4chan. there are plenty of liberalist cliques out there, you don't need 4chan.this you?
>>83908290this post is 100% real and all it did was rouse a bunch of leftard nu-/r9k/ blood to come and make meek non sequitur and ineffectual arguments against it. that one barely sentient dipshit talking about how mods totally don't ban racist remarks outside of /b/ and /pol/ is the icing on the cake, you don't even need to drop a racial slur, talking in a totally clinical context about inherent racial differences in IQ is enough to catch you one if an admin is surly enough or a huge left wing faggot. the whole "DURR EPSTEIN CREATED U" narrative as pertains to 4chan's right wing counter-culture is in and of itself a troon fever dream based on absolutely nothing but conjecture and hearsay, it's the left wing contingent of this website's final hail mary attempt to finally get one over on their online political opposition by trying to claim that being racist or white people preferring their own ingroup is predicated entirely on brainwashing rather than experience dealing with black people or other undesirable minorities.of course since /r9k/ is mostly nonwhite browncels who can't get laid to save their fucking lives complaining about how they can't get white girlfriends these days, the majority of nu-/r9k/ retards would take exception to this, going so far as to create a bunch of revisionist takes on the history of 4chan and how "racism was totally never a real thing here guys, 4chan has always been a website of love and peace!" you morons are delusional. when moot started the website in 2003, /g/ which is now technology used to be guro. this isn't your fucking anonymous "free speech but only within acceptable confines" facebook-adjacent marketplace of ideas, it's traditionally been a place where anything goes, and if anything moderation and pushback to its right wign counter-culture is fiercer now in the present than ever.
>>83908462dude you post like a retard lol
>>83908462https://web.archive.org/web/20111225174226/http://chanarchive.com/4chan/r9k/5480/moot-planning-new-boardsthe amount of naivety regarding creating a news board is fascinating to watch. they really thought making proto pol and putting in wordfilters would keep out stormfags
>>83908467someone triggered the autist lol
>>83908467>if an admin is surly enough or a huge left wing faggotthe admin is hiro and he is never here, your alternative is rapeape who is very proudly maga. talk about which boards have dedicated mods next, please.
>>83908469thanks, i try very hard.
>>83908467g was guro there were raid boards and loli and shota ones. if you'll note they also banned the shit out of all of those topics. furries got a board for april fools which got them a month ban for posting. moot made this place to share porn while underage. fast forward and he worked at google for five years. what is your point here, faggot? do you just want to mald about your ban history or something?
>>83908467>of course since /r9k/ is mostly nonwhite browncels who can't get laid to save their fucking lives complaining about how they can't get white girlfriends these daysThat's always how /r9k/ was lol. See:>Anonymous 06/23/09(Tue)01:08:4 No.4561100/r9k/ was promising but it's become a haven for faggotry. relationshit, as you said, but all sorts of whiny nonsense that people should keep to their diaries (or myspace/facebook/egoshrineoftheday)https://web.archive.org/web/20111225174226/http://chanarchive.com/4chan/r9k/5480/moot-planning-new-boards
>>83908467Do you think a website with an LLC is required to host anything anyone wants to put on it at any point, forever? If they want to ban you for spamming NIGGERS AND BISCUITS, they can. There's not much you can do about it other than suck yourself off or, I guess, hack the site to leak everyone's info. As they have.
>>83908486isn't this funny to look at? my favorite part is all of them begging to be split of from the same server as /b/ so when they fuck themselves over and go down all the time they don't take /r9k/ with them. nobody ever talks about stuff like that, how specific boards would die because a particular server got overloaded and the regular users would start fucking with the others. /b/ loved to raid /x/ all the time. what a time capsule.
>>83908467>"racism was totally never a real thing here guys, 4chan has always been a website of love and peace!"Nobody said this, unc. Go take your meds.
>>83908498It's like reading those old civil war letters soldiers wrote to their wives. I forgot that's how everyone used to speak. Like trying a lot harder to sound sharp and witty all the time kind of where every statement had to be a quasi-insult.
>>83908467ok>>83908457this is the argument bro is mad at which is pretty obvious. it wasn't genuine racial hatred in the sense of seething like so, or if it was it was highly intellectualized. the game was to troll someone into an emotional reaction and not get yourself worked up in return. for many that means posting racism, misogyny, homophobia. for others it's identity politics. buckling down and getting defensive over any aspect was what made you a source of mockery, kind of like insisting to everyone that you and only you know the real and true history of the hentai bbs. unless of course this trolling updated for the modern age, which is always a possibility. using hyperemotional language to get the contingent that always needs to feel intellectually superior to write stacks on stacks on stacks on hentai bbs history in its defense or reflect on the changing of the old guard re: internet culture, preddy gud. give you about a 6.39/10.
>>83908506I really like looking at these old ones like a little history museum. It's a shame the entirety of old /r9k/'s history is missing from all other archives that aren't old wayback snapshots of dead ones. I wonder why that is. Other boards have theirs from that period and from before and after.
>>83908533Not sure myself. I never tried looking up pre-deletion /r9k/ posts and I don't have much knowledge on how the archiving process in general works for 4chan except I know that a few of them are all kind of using the same process, like archiveofsins and archived.moe for example seem to share a common source.
>>83908506man. look at oppenheimer go.
>>83908431that's like majority of the Web right there. i guess some people can't help but maintain skepticism no matter how much proof comes out, time and time again. the most useful of all idiots.
>>83908546I guess by compelling people to write out original statements that format naturally led to lots of relationship / feelings talk. Because that's the only kind of thing most young adults will talk about when forced to have a discussion that isn't just copying and pasting jokes.
>>83908540Well technically moot claimed they never kept archives or intended for anyone to, and yet somehow>the official 4chan archive of the NSA. Hosting ~180M text-only 2003-2014 4chan posts (mostly 2006-2008).Old /r9k/ has ones from feb 2008-jan 2011, but most of 2009 is missing and so is a lot of 2010. The only ones that remain are ITT greentext ones. Searching by moot's capcode shows that he only has five posts across those two years on the whole site, which is obviously incorrect. He had the entire Mcdonald's saga on here. It's weird. Maybe something to do with the robot, because other boards have those years of history. 4chanarchive required people to manually vote in threads to be archived and took multiple rounds of voting to get in, to stay, and to be put in permanent archives. It unironically worked exactly like reddit does. They merged to chanarchive and then later both died, but even as some threads were rescued much of /r9k/ is just gone except for threads from there on wayback, which is also inconsistent.
>>83908551hah. you think five social media sites and one porn site are the majority of the web? useful idiots indeed.
>>83908467you're completely correct, look at all these seething faggots lel
>>83908491>same brown retard arguing epstein invented racists btw
>>83908553i think it was largely that it fostered a siloed community because it was trying to be more philosophical and intellectual than /b/ but still maintained the same general demographic who were growing up, many posters were around college aged. that's typically the age you focus on social dynamics and finding yourself, and old /r9k/ had a reputation for philosophizing and diagnosing absolutely everything. many threads are filled with posts on how to get your life together, how to improve yourself, and general resources for life. it was very much a general board which meant racism and misogyny were components the same way they are anywhere, it was never a dedicated "purpose". the only purpose was an attempt at seeing if a script that intentionally killed easy replication of just spamming memes could still produce original content. /r9k/ became very insular and was disliked by most of the website for being... well, reddit, basically as opposed to the porn or hobby boards.
>>83908572Not that anon, but I think the point is less that Epstein invented racists and more that Epstein astroturfed a culture war.
>>83908567you genuinely believe most people browse more than 6 sites these days? cmon now.the obvious ones missing would be youtube and instagram. but yeah, that really is pretty much all of it.
>>83908582And he did so so well the rest of the factions that are totally not astroturfing can only respond with brown, retard, whore, faggot etc. You know what was a big part of the older culture? Well, not>>83908568>>83908572samefagging in the most obvious way possible, but also you didn't need to just start shouting BROWN RETARD FAGGOT DIE BITCH over and over. Baiting and psychologically dismantling them was more fun. A faggot or brown retard know they are faggots and brown retards. You don't need to tell them. It's the exact mechanism of the culture war. /r9k/ was filled with near-constant social engineering. They even have archived threads on how to social engineering online and irl. That's more of the damning revelation here - that moot, who ran this board as his lovechild, saw that and would clearly know exactly how to make this happen on /pol/ for Epstein's purported goals in exchange for his per diem, legal and maintenance fees for 4chan, and whatever connections he could get for canvas networks. Because he was letting it happen all the time on /r9k/ already. He was doing it himself. He reopened /r9k/ the same day. But I don't think he expected it to go the way it did at all, with how the way the world has turned out. So much actual suffering and death. Or maybe he did and he really did sell his soul to be the king of the ashes. Who knows. I wonder how he feels about it, how all of the old ones do, and the ones doing the social engineering, seeing what happened with what they had been doing for fun.
>>83908602what people (normies) browse most often /= the majority of content on the internet.
>>83908609you know damn well the conversation wasn't about where the majority of content is stored you disingenuous faggot
>>83908622in a conversation between two people, when one of them is discussing one thing and the other keeps biting down further on their own bullet, the former is not typically the disingenuous faggot. people use websites other than pornhub and major social media. and on those sites, there is vastly more content than whatever maxwell was seeding. people do in fact also just not use social media. a better argument on your behalf would have been that regardless of primary sourcing, it trickles down to shift the overton window anyway. the macro and micro of the web.
>>83908243Jews always play both sides of every issue to make sure there is never anything that truly threatens them
>>83908641>you mean the ~6 websites that completely dominate the anglosphere Web through subversive ragebait?>ha! that's no majority! there's ackschually six-gajillion more websites out there and their content adds up to over 9000 quadrillion bibibytes!kys>people do in fact also just not use social media.it's not 2009 anymore, unc
>>83908658i didn't read most of that, but you can continue calling me old if you'd like. there are more interesting discussions happening itt though, kys-chan.
>>83908657It's the only clever thing to do.
>>83908553That's not quite fair. There was a lot of shitposting about xkcd and pseudointellectual philosophical aggrandizing as well. They REALLY loved Ayn Rand.
>>83908481>they also banned the shit out of all of those topicsand why did they have to do this in the first place, hm?
>>83908572Websites aren't actually bastions of free speech unless you host them yourself, hate to break it to you.And if you keep getting banned for racism, it might just be a skill issue.
>>83908602>you genuinely believe most people browse more than 6 sites these days? cmon now."Most people"? No, but for "4chan users" sure. I browse more porn sites than that daily. This wasn't always the normalfaggot website for normalfaggots to post nigger nigger nigger because filters would just catch them everywhere else. I would argue many of those are no longer even particularly relevant. Reddit has taken over the pseud side and tiktok the rest. Youtube is just a repo at this point as is instagram which has faded considerably. Twitter is dead. Tumblr is dead. Facebook is bots. 4chan is useful mostly for new terminology which filters everywhere else. Pornhub has been significantly cucked by legality crackdowns.
>>83908790>too brown to get the point
>>83908607>schizo writes another paragraph saying nothing
>>83908409>they banned gamergate on sight>it was completely verboten to talk about on /v/>that's what killed its momentum>the discussion had to move to /pol/you mean the other board they moderated as opposed to infinity where they had 0 control and which launched a massive war declaring 4cuck dead and moot the enemy of 4cuck users now on infinity and gg ?
>>83908419>>>>>>>>>>>>>antifaunc it is 2026
>>83908812Free speech is the white man's dilemma, baby.
>>83908812>>83908819Full of sound and fury, signifying...?
>>83908819I like to imagine how you function day to day thinking any word that isn't in a webm format with big bouncy tits in the background being used as ragebait is disorganized schizophrenia. Are the tits nice at least?
>>83908812i bet the stats on 4chin show most users are brown by now
>>83908819>schizo schizos schizoly
Imagine a world where Natalie Mars is just a normal gay guy putting huge toys in his ass
>>83908790yeah yeah no speech is protected or free we got it a long time ago mossad
>>83908801>leddit relevant >the current yearmaybe for dead legacy media listicle clickbait
>>83908777for an oldfag you sure have thin skin.admitting you're too upset by slurs to follow an argument is not exactly a moral high ground around here.
>>83908835>>83908842>yeah this isnt schizo at all go ahead and post it
