British people only, why do you focus all your hatred on trans people when your country is in a state of collapse?
>>84001749Are you ignoring the absolute hate for Muslims you stupid Troon.
Name something more antienglish than a brown tranny
Mutt thread
>>84001749wait brits too? i thought only US was fucked, all i remember is one of the prince is arrested ,how bad is it?(idk much about west)
Every anglo country but the US has far worse economic problems. We Americans are just destroying our superior economy for the love of the game.
>>84001848Trans issues are the most serious issue facing brits. It isnt: >highest energy bills on earth>rape capital of europe>highest cost of living in Europe >only nation to have a LOWER GDP post covid>most violent incidents in Europe>96% of all crime goes unsolved >40% of all murders go unsolved>roads crumbling so badly the Victorian paving is visible underneath>most expensive houses in Europe >worst quality housing in Europe>worst internet infrastructure in europe>most cctv cameras outside of china>government can freeze bank accounts at will>police can enter any property without a warrant>police can imprison you indefinitely if you forget your phone pin>government can force you to sell your home at any time using a Compulsory Purchase Order>emergency hospital waiting times are measured in days not hours>average wait time to see a health specialist is 3 years>dentistry being abolished How bad is it? About as bad as it gets. Brits dont care about any of this. All they care about is raging against trans people
>>84001759Yeah? And what do you do when you see a group of muslim lads. Nothing. What do you do when you see a mtf walking by herself, suddenly you become brave and attack her from behind. Well done, you're so brave
>>84001904>rape capitalThats sweden.
>>84001749Left-wing outlets talk more about trannies than right-wing outlets.
>>84002270>Left-wing outletsIn the UK? No, everyone in the media is anti trans
>>84002256Wrong, its the UK now
>>84001882Hi, anon. Your image made my penis hard. I just want you to know that.
are you retarded? I actually go into the real world and this is a complete none issue, no one fucking cares about you, you narcissistic trannoid, apart from low income retard chavs
>>84002384Eh, I work with boomers and just this morning they were hiding in the back making fun of a troon customer who came in amongst themselves.
>>84002402>customer service wagiesso literal pond scum? I never come across trans hate irl, I see them wandering around and no one does anything. Have you tried re locating outside of dead northern ex mill towns?
>>84002402nothing wrong with this tho
>>84001904sounds quite ass. but probably better than my place>>84002418OP he is kinds right on this one, they are boomers ofc they have no idea about trans stuff, we cant just get every single transphobic into your headaltho physical and mental abuse do exist , you can just get every single insult get the best of you, stay strong OP and dont let petty words harm you
>>84002299As they should be. You people pushed people to far
>>84001904I enjoy watching brits suffer, they deserve it.
>>84002506cant* just let every single insult
I have only met one person who transitioned. I have never seen anyone who has transitioned other than them.It is 99.98% an Internet meme
>>84002536desu its a MINORITY the fact that you have seen someone transition is a big thing and yeah it really mostly a meme and a porn genre atp
Like 90% of the world hates trans people and many countries kill them. The uk just has feminists just mildly more skeptical of trans shit than a handful of progressive coastal us states.You keep posting this shit. You have an expression.
>>84001749it's mostly foids who care
>>84002551>the fact that you have seen someone transition is a big thingI want to give her my big thing lmao
Literally most of the world thinks trans people are mentally ill or possessed by demons. You just do not interact with people in the non-English speaking word outside North America and Western Europe.
>>84002561Uk is they way it is cause it convinced women that trans people are anti women so.. in us anti trans is still mostly male only thing, us need jkr of their own
>>84002570OP never leaves discord or ffxiv. people will laugh at you for anything but a man with a fake shrill voice is just funnier
>>84002568Its more likely ftm, so he
>>84002576The USA has an intense Christian right wing and a large portion of their population are very religious and socially conservative; that does not really exist in the uk to anywhere near the same extent. Culturally the uk is far more secular. Trans shit just got framed as another issues in the long running American culture war between rural Christian social conservatives vs urban coastal sexual liberals. People just fall into line with their team. In the uk that religious framing is much less intense so people looked at the issue differently . Also, the uk has very socialised healthcare so the question of what healthcare to provide trans people immediately became a public issue as to what funding it should get rather than an issue between a person and their private doctor (this is a big reason).
>>84001912>himself>him
>>84002585Male to female, pulled it off exceptionally well
>>84002384No, i go about my day and everyone is horroble. Been spat at, had gangs of lads throw things at me, lots of verbal abuse. British people are very horrible >>84002402Why are people so horrible, those same boomers will be complaing when they get abused in an old folks home. Brits are determined to live in a miserable, horrible society>>84002427Yes there is, you should treat others how you wish to be treated, then you cretins wonder why you live in a horrible shithole dump>>84002536Yes, so ask yourself why every single government institution is dedicated to hating trans people. We haven't done anything wrong. Englands horrible.>>84002561The UK is a living hell for trans people, its objectively the worst county in the West>>84002570Wrong>>84002576Yeah just what the US needs to do, listen to an insane boomer that will help>>84002598>Also, the uk has very socialised healthcare so the question of what healthcare to provide trans people immediately became a public issue as to what funding it should get rather than an issue between a person and their private doctor (this is a big reason).Wrong
>>84002615they made fun of this after they left right? thats not a problem
>>84001749>Why do you dont follow this specific leftist agenda when you follow all of them and the end result will be the same anywaysPotato potahto
>>84002621It is, its being cruel for no reason, 24 hour propaganda against trans people, what a miserable terrible place
>>84002623>leftistNothing about your dump is leftist, you want to vote in a literal fascist
>>84002632Trans people constantly force themselves to other people, you occupy every space, every hobby and start spamming your shitty troon porn. Everyone is tired of you.
>>84002615Sounds like you are British and live in Britain. You are coping. Chavs are just like that and will chuck shit and spit at anyone for a laugh who is not also a chav. The fact you are trans just exacerbates it. Also The woke era (2014-2024) is ending now and people are becoming more comfortable saying what they have always thought. This is a thing across the west right now. England is not distinctive. If anything, British youth are much less right wing and racist and anti-tranny that most of Europe (comparatively). You are comparing you experience with chavs on the street to idealised progressive costal urban America.
>>84002632there is nothing wrong with laughing at something especially if it isnt harassment. litetally victimless
>>84002606It made you gay or you were always a fag
OP would literally be lynched or shot in rural red state America. He is completely delusional.
>>84002646Propaganda, all lies. Trans people been excluded from society>>84002648Wrong, ive travlled, people are nice in other countries. Your dump is horrible, not just chavs, everyone is disgusting and rude.Would you like it if people said nasty things about your appearance constantly. Isnt it funny how its always cruel stuff Brits say, because you are cruel, evil set of people. It isnt just chavs, its all social classesIve travlled, only your dump is obssessed with trans people, why? Why are trans issues more important to you than your energy bills?
>>84002636Transgenderism and all the other policies uk is following are exclusively leftwing, they not following it faithfully is hilarious even.
>>84002615>Yes, so ask yourself why every single government institution is dedicated to hating trans people. We haven't done anything wrong. Englands horrible.Apart from that one NHS Trust a million miles away that had the toilet story, I've never heard of any trans complaining in the media or by any institution
>>84002658Its cruel, and reveals what nasty people you are>>84002661Who would shoot me, you? You cant even shoot your dick straight lol>>84002666No such thing as transgenderism, thats a made up word the right have used to create a symbolic enemy whilst they enact wealth transfer. Maybe in your shithole dump of a country, but in most countries with trans healthcare, its independent of right or left wing politics. Being trans is a medical condition, how can a medical condition be left wing, are you fucking stupid, you stupid cunt lol. It can happen to anyone, in any country or time period
>>84002664>Propaganda, all lies. Trans people been excluded from societyAnyone who spends time on internet knows its true
>>84002678Then you're either a moron or a liar probably both, because the media constantly engages in anti trans propaganda It says a lot that none these shithead british posters have said why trans issues are more important than any other, its a pavlovs dog reaction, thats why British people are the most disgusting i have come across, they're eager to hate
>>84002682Kek seethe retard, your emotional illogical rant doesnt change reality
>>84002682Just move if you hate it in the uk.
JK Rowling is a feminist hero. Women wont wheest.Autogynephile fetishists will be shamed. A woman is an adult human female.This witch wont burn. Harry Potter is the best childrens series. Cope seethe and dilate.
>>84002683>Anyone who spends time on internetAnon, get a fucking life that isnt about hating trans people online.>>84002689Your screaming about anti trans propaganda doesnt change reality, youre still going to be a shithead tomorrow, you cant buy a house, you wont have a pension, why aren't you angry about that? Why are you screaming into the void about trans people?>>84002691Brexit. I fucking despise British people they are hideously ugly and rude people. You can travel to another country and people are nice, then you come to England, you see the crumbling shithole buildings, the aggressive rude people, everythings expensive and shit quality, everyone's angry, and mean, and cruel. Spiteful, nasty people who love to inflict misery on the most vulnerable >>84002697Another stupid fucking cunt, what has JKR done for women, nothing, just hate trans people, JKR has harmed women you stupid fucking brit cunt.Shes created a world where butch cis women get harassed, how does that help you stupid hateful prick
Honestly OP , everyone's gonna hate you cuz you are trans its not just brits, the only place you will not be called a political made abomination are places with trans people as in a cultural thing like in the easteven then alot of people will hate you and bully you, even you look at places like Thailand infamous for it even there they are not that socially acceptedhumans are assholes, who always like to hate on others to fulfill their ego's superiority and fulfill the stereotypes they have made in their brain regardless they are true or not. and looking to be liked by random people is not very ideal, thats why minorities fight for their rights rather than wait for other to drop it in their hands.dont waste your time on everyone to explain why you are you , if they get it in the first time/actually try to understand then its fine, else just continue with your dayits the bloody internet anyway especially 4chan
i assume you are not racist and wouldn't frame it this way with 'Paki bashing' when that was a thing.everyone in Britain is struggling and trans people are the last thing on their mind. you just want to be victims.
>>84002702You're right. I just get very upset that im forced to live here. I know trans people arent having a good time globally, but I've seen the world, seen how people treat me, smile at me, compliment me, then im forced to return to this evil cursed isle, i get very sad, nasty horrible people here.
>OP right now >I AM A LADY I WILL KICK THE SHIT OUT OF ANYONE THAT THINKS OTHERWISE
>>84002710>everyone in Britain is strugglingWhy is that and trans people are the last thing on their mind. you just want to be victims.Yeah i love being spat at, i fucking love it when groups of drunk men scare me, i love it you fucking evil prick
OP will detransition within the next 10 years and pretend this never happened.
>>84002701>what has JKR done for women...maybe you don't count Lumos because that was for orphans/children (although i'm guessing they gave support to mothers), but Beira's Place? an actual rape shelter in Edinburgh?i don't even think you're trolling. you're just insane.
Problem with the transes is that they cannot organise. They in-fight and gate keep to the point that their movement cannot function.They had a chance and they blew it by being insufferable on the internet.
>>84002717look pal you're having a hard time for some reason. i've gone out with my trans mates and seen this happen, had to de-escalate a drunk guy who started on my friend (she didn't help herself by winding him up).go make a voluntary overpayment to the Treasury, ask for it to be ring-fenced to the NHS. i've known people on crazy waiting lists for their initial assessment...but guess what, EVERYTHING takes two years. give money to the NHS, let them triage it. i'm on waiting lists but cancer patients > me. i would like the NHS (as a whole) to be better, not just me and my problems.
>>84001749I am Canadian. Can I post here or am I not British enough?
>>84002712in honestly OP if you know a place that actually treat you right , move there or any queer friendly part of your countryand some of these guys are right UK as in whole is most probably not going out of there way to hurt trans people they got stuff like immigration and economy to handle, the ones that dont like you just simply dont like you, you ended up being under their sight and got hurtkeep yourself safe and a place that actually dosent minds you,they dont have to actively support you, if they dont mind you thats fine
>>84001749not british. But just came in to say that Homosexuals, Lesbians, and Bisexual people are awsome. Trans people.... not so much. There are other ways to fight against harmful gender roles in society, transgenderisim is literally making things worse. Gender should have never become a part of identity, It should just be treated like a physical descriptor like eye color or heritage. Even despite the evidence of trans peoples brains being different, Instead of calling it like it is and being okay with being a feminine male or masculine woman and accepting the body you were born with, (which is entirely possible even with the funky brain chemistry) because of the social zeitgeist people insist on waging a metaphysical war on their own bodies, which completely erodes your sense of self and gives into insecurities because gender in larger society is such a load-bearing pillar of people's identities it's seen as a sacred calf that is inherent to 'who you are as a person'.(spoiler alert, it's not)It creates constant psychological friction for both the transgender person and everyone else. Crossdressers, Femboys, Butches, and androgynous people who accept and love their sex, despite feeling and presenting differently will forever be incredibly based have my respect.
>>84002779Thanks anon, thats all i want, to be left alone, i dont need anyone to like me, just dont attack me or get into my face when i go the shops.I wish i could leave England, its not nice here, people horrible to me>84002808Glad the hide button exists
>>84001749Normal people think it's disgusting when you play out your sex fetishes in public.
>>84002808An excellent and intelligent post
>>84002808So much cope in one post, I'm impressed. You just hate trans people for no reason. If men are allowed to be feminine there should be nothing wrong with them taking something that makes them more feminine. You obviously have a problem with men being feminine
>>84002921No it wasnt>>84002910I think you're disgusting >>84002929Its all cope, i dont understand lol
>>84002959>I think you're disgustingThe reality is that you are a man on the autism spectrum who decided to let self hatred and feelings of sexual inadequacy dominate your life. You're so ashamed of your identity that you've castrated yourself. I hope that you can get help.
>>84001912Any proof to back up your claims?
Transphobia is simply an extension of lookism but troons are incapable of realising that for some reason
>>84001749Because trannies take up precious medical resources with their fake and gay fetish, which is a serious problem for everyone else considering the state of the NHS
>>84003016Imagine a man in a dress he's not on hrt, but he's good with makeup and can kind of pass as a woman. Despite looking like a woman, he identifies as a man. Now imagine the same individual with the only difference between them that this person identifies as a woman.Just by looking at them, which individual do you choose to discriminate and hate? The answer is that you can't pick which one you hate because you have no way of figuring out which one identifies as a woman by just looking at them. So no matter how patient and kind either of these people may be, you will be inclined to be hostile towards them simply because they are men in dresses because you might falsely assume that a man in a dress identifies as a woman. Long story short, you hate feminine men.
>84003016You're just proving my point. Hide.>>84003024Yeah my fucking life. People here are nasty bullies, they do the bidding of the system>84003055Nazi language, my hrt is really cheap, go away
>>84002929>taking something that makes them more feminine.Wanting to be more feminine and trying to force everyone around you to accept you as a woman are very different things..
>>84002921Debatable but I appreciate the compliment, usually the stance I hold makes me called a faggot by Polchuds and a transphobe by libchuds>>84002929I said nothing about being against people taking estrogen or testosterone. Honesty just like any level of plastic surgery I think it's fine as long as people don't let it feed into their insecurities/become addicted to it. You may be projecting my friend by assuming that I have an issue with hormones. I haven't looked too much into that aspect of things, but from what I've seen if you are careful with it, the negative side effects are negligible. What I do have a problem with is the insistence of labeling oneself another gender. It actively gives into the made up importance of gender being a part of ones identity, and compounds insecurities by creating a pradox between the material world and the mental world one has in their head IE dysphoria .Transgenderism currently denies the material world in favor of the mental one, but I say that it IS possible to embrace the material reality of your physical body while still satisfying the mental incongruity with the gender role you are "supposed to be" not matching what you feel as you are. It's simply living with your biological sex and not denying it metaphysically, but not giving a fuck about how masculine/feminine/androgynous you act, dress, or present yourself. I agree with trans people that gender is a societal construct, but ironically that's exactly why transgenderisim is not the answer to freedom from dysphoria or societal pressure. Because it gives into the concept of gender instead of rebelling against it, expressing ones true identity independently of your biological sex while still not being at war with your own body.
>>84003043>Transphobia is simply an extension of lookism but troons are incapable of realising that for some reasonwhat do you mean incapable of realising that? there are so many posts on /lgbt/ that highlight this exact sentiment>>84003055>fakebut it's not really fake, at least not historically, it has existed in many cultures even before the internet and globalisation were a thing>which is a serious problem for everyone elseis it though, most troons that i know don't interact with the NHS for their medical treatment because the NHS doesn't really cover, most of them just DIY their hormones and pay for their surgeries out of pocket. there's little to be mad about here, objectively speaking.
>>84001749>British people only, why do you focus all your hatred on trans people when your country is in a state of collapse?We don't. Thread over you retarded troon.
>>84003086>>84003089I saw the phrase>accepting the body you were born withAnd assumed this was about people altering their bodies with hrt and surgeries because that's usually how this conversation goes. Regardless, I have a problem with this view anyway because it implies you can't differentiate trans women from men see this post >>84003077 I made
>>84002929continuing from >>84003089Also you assume I inherently hate trans people. I'm completely fine with them as people, the ideology and view on gender is what ai disagree with. I still respect peoples pronouns and won't argue with them because I know it's not a battle that can be won because transgender ideology is so deeply rooted in peoples sense of self, that an attack on the concept feels like an attack on their very being (which is not a good sign in my opinion). It makes discussing it in good faith almost impossible. As you have proven by immediately calling everything I say cope. I have a childhood friend that is transgender, and one of my previous partners who I am on good terms with recently transitioned. If you think I hate trans people you'd be wrong. I just think they are harming themselves by going about it the complete wrong way. Doesn't mean I'm going to treat them like shit, maybe throw a little shade now and again, but they are still people that I care about deeply.
>>84003086>force everyoneWhy are terfs so dramatic. I dont even talk to anyone when im outside>>84003128Yea you do,this thread proves it
>>84003110>most troons that i know don't interact with the NHS for their medical treatment because the NHS doesn't really cover, most of them just DIY their hormones and pay for their surgeries out of pocket. there's little to be mad about here, objectively speaking.Its true, the NHS has never helped me, had to do everything by myself
>>84003153>Yea you do,this thread proves itNo it doesn't, nobody gives a fuck about you. you can clearly see the biggest issues in this country motivating people to vote are immigration and gaza
>>84003133Of course I wouldn't disagree with someone just by looking at them, that's stupid. I disagree with people off of their opinions and beliefs. I don't care about looks when it comes to gender issues, so of course I wouldn't be able to differentiate my stance until someone actually started speaking insisting they were a different gender. I try not to read books by their covers anon.No matter how much someone "passes" or "doesn't pass" (already leaning into gender roles heavily there), I'm not going to treat them differently, but if I find out they are insistent on being a different gender sex/gender than what they are on a metaphysical and linguistic level, I'm still going to respect their pronouns, but I certainly don't agree with their choices or beliefs. Like I said, cis crossdressers of any kind are based.
>>84003171Yea you do, shout at me in the street, and threaten me
I recongise that Canadian anon from /pol/, its obsessed with anti trans posts, has literally giga bytes of propaganda, what a strange thing to become obsessed with
>>84003133also keep in mind you are arguing with two people, the rude one isn't me. I try keep my anti-trans rhetoric professional instead of just calling people retards.
>>84003181If you respect them and all that then what's your problem why do you still have to write paragraphs about how you don't like gender ideology? To these people there is no gender ideology. They are happy, let them be. I get the impression that you would change them if you could and that simply doesn't sit right with me
>>84003216Thats good that when you dehumanise millions of people who are vulnerable that you dont call them names, just that they should be killed, well done anon
>>84002615>The UK is a living hell for peoplestop being a narcissist
>>84003275Its horrible and everyone knows it, full of spiteful people, and lots of problems
>>84003279The government is controlled by a gnostic tranny cult, they have been for centuries at this point.They are actively corruot and antihumanAre you british white?
>>84003296Terf island isn't controlled by trans people, i wish i had some of the crack you are smoking, must be wild
>>84003303It is, they worship a tranny god with breasts and a cock.They created you as a part of their alchemical designs for control because like a eunuch it removes your normal loyalty to blood.Your suffering benefits them because it generates a presumption for their control.
>>84001749first of all, dont lump us Bi's with the crazy rainbow people. second of all I dont hate anyone, I just disagree with some trans demands like competing against women, going in their bathrooms and trans children who arent even old enough to get a tattoo, but suddenly they're wise enough to know they are in the wrong body and want to ruin it forever before puberty? absolutely moronic
>>84001912men are pussy whipped bitches that can only attack people physically weaker than them.
>>84003338Well why dont they give me healthcare then, crackhead anon?
>>84003345>im bi>please throw trans people under the busYou're getting gassed too, you greedy slag>>84003368They know i cant fight back. I have cane because i have osteoporosis, they know if they attack me i cant fight back and the police wont help.British people are bullies and spiteful. Of all countries surveyed they were at the bottom of the lisy, they do nothing but hate. Even Turkey less hateful and trans people there have more rights, Brits are nasty, it doesn't harm them to leave trans people alone
>>84003181>I'm still going to respect their pronouns, but I certainly don't agree with their choices or beliefshonestly that's a pretty based take, i'm not gonna try to convince you to change your beliefs to think that i'm a woman, just don't be an asshole to me, that's all i can really ask for>>84003171>gazawait do people still care about that?>>84003345>I just disagree with some trans demands like competing against women, going in their bathrooms and trans childreni try to avoid going into public bathrooms because i don't want to invade anyone's spaces but sometimes i have to pee and i weird people out going into men's. the sports thing is a non-issue for most trans people, it's not a hill 99% of us are willing to die on, it was blown out of proportion by some activists and then weaponised against it by the media. i really just think that letting us update our documents and letting us pee in a bathroom that matches how we look if we pass are like, the most basic concessions that we could ask for to just exist in peace. it should have just stayed this way as was previously the case but militant trans activists have ruined it for everyone. i feel bad for existing, i really do, i wish my parents had used protection, i wish i wasn't such a bother and i'm sorry for upending any existing moral order>>84003296anon, the government hates us, mainstream parties hate us, where did you get that impression? the only parties that don't hate us are the greens and libdems but the greens are insane on many other fronts
>>84003386Sounds like you'd prefer to make women uncomfortable vs men who would actually stand up to you. Hell maybe you hope to get a thrill out of shocking a little girl in a bathroom
>>84003395Fuck off you nasty spiteful cunt. Its going for a piss, your world isnt going to cave in, this is just a cover you use to be aggressive.What kind of lunatic wants to physically attack someone for going for a wee. Funny how you mention children too, we know your kind, every accusation is a confession
>>84003181Also in the real world people get harassed, assulted and attacked because they look transgender not because they told someone "I am a woman" while you may be saying what you're saying the transphobic trend is that people tend to be a lot more hostile and I think this hostility originates from doubting that trans people are real
>>84002808(1)ykw i myself have been really thinking hard about trans people, that why is a person trans is it just a weird way to cope with their insecurities? now just because i question them dosent mean i deny their existence but what i truly believe is how we perceive them and try to fit in our old customs.lets say for myself,if someone asked me what gender i am , i would say i am a man but desu i couldnt care less about my gender and gender roles, if tomorrow i became a woman, i wont really have an issue and then became a man i wont really have an identity related issue. when i wish to dress masculine , i am masc, when i wanna look femme, i go for a femme look and people say "anon, you look quite woman-like today" "ik,thats the plan,wanna kiss me now?"but what about the people who are trans? who believe they should be a part of a whole different gender altogether and wanna fit into a whole different gender role?i personally like to see it as a allegory to immigration. lets say there is this american man who loves anime,plays all the video games, listen to all those songs basically a weeb, like the ones we cringe at. Now this man straight up wanna be japanese cuz how much of a weeb he is. But you just cant change your race and ethnicity, so what do we do now? immigration, you might not be able to experience what is it like to be young in all those anime you watch but if you love japan that much you might just go there regardless. so our mr American packs his bags and goes to a 1 month vacation to japan to decide see if japan is for him or not, i like to correlate this part with how a person questions what sort of stuff they are interested in genuinely consider if they are a trannie or just a girly fag.lets say americano decides japan only looks great and is great but he still feels best at america so he dosent immigrates(a girly fag/femboy/crossdresser)(its kinda long so lemme write plz)