I told a guy online that I consider porn a form of cheating and a dealbreaker for me and he proceeded to call me crazy. Another guy reacted the same way. Is this just how most men think?
youre a virgin and plan on fucking 4 times a week while living with him, right?
>>84210104It depends. If you're satisfying your husband/BF, or at least making a honest effort to make things work, then I do think it's inconsiderate and borderline cheatingIf that's not the case and you're disregarding your partner's needs, then it's not cheating
>>84210104I'd completely give up porn for my gf and focus all my energy on her, I'd expect the same kind of desire from her.
>>84210107If I had a boyfriend, I would never flick my bean to images/videos of other men. Why is my dealbreaker considered unreasonable?
>>84210104it's totally believable that a foid took time off from texting chad to ask this inane question on an anonymous image board
>>84210104If you agree that reading women's romance novels is cheating and having had sexual partners before him is cheating then it's fair for you to say porn is cheating.
>>84210104I'll be honest, if she wants me to stop watching porn it's not a deal breaker. I understand. It's me looking at other women. With that said I am a male. I need sexual ejaculation to be healthy and happy. Sperm is constantly being produced in my testicles and needs to be released. She will have to send me a lot of nudes and videos. That's the only thing.
>>84210117>images/videosThose are for men, whose stimulation is visual. You wouldn't flick your bean to literotica, right?
>>84210117are your tits over a g cup, and are you willing to send him nudes weekly??
>>84210104make porn for your boyfriend, not that hard. a lot of the time its like "oh she's busy and i want to cum but i dont want to interrupt her", not "i need a different woman because she isnt that attractive". when you love someone, they become the most beautiful, sexy, whatever, person to you.
I told a woman online that I consider non-virginity a form of cheating and a dealbreaker for me and she proceeded to call me insecure. Another woman reacted the same way. Is this just how most women think?
>>84210104we men need to cum it isnt a question, its food and water
>>84210104>Is this just how most men think?No. Stop dating retards and chad.
cheating is something done on tests or with business associates. not something that can be done with genitals. normies...smdh
>>84210104I agree with you, when I had a gf I stopped watching porn completely
>>84210104>>84210117Totally fair to consider that a dealbreaker, if I found my girl watching porn or rubbing one out to some celeb then I'd break up with her on the spot. It's not cheating but it's plenty fucking disrespectful.
>>84210110Well, answer this
>>84210104If a girl told me that it would give me a boner. I want a possessive woman
>>84210104it's not the banning of porn that has men call you crazy, it's unreasonable but can be worked around; it's the part where you call it cheating that is crazy. it shows you don't understand how the male brain works, or worse know yet actively dislike us. I love my wife and prefer sex to porn, but she ain't gonna start doing gangbangs or shoving pencils up her urethra just so I can get off, and I wouldn't expect her to. I get my urethral insertion porn, she gets her weird, sexualized harry potter fanfic porn.
>>84210104Are you withholding sex? Are you severely mentally ill? I hope your gay cuck relationship goes far.
>>84210104Is reading smut cheating too?
>>84210104>Is this just how most men think?yes, but you're not wrong. cheating isn't about the physical act but the emotional desire for another person. in the sermon on the mount jesus says, "if you so much as look at another woman lustfully your heart has already committed adultery." he's right.
>>84210104Eh it's not really cheating as long as he doesn't spend money on it, even less so for 2D porn.I mean you're posting on this board which is full of porn, is that cheating?
>>84210104You gotta have crazy high relationship market value AND crazy high sexual market value if you're gonna seriously suggest this to a man, and even then calling it cheating and a dealbreaker is enough to throw down three red flags and call it quits.
Threads like this once again show how ingrained porn is in our society. You guys can't even imagine jerking off without it. No one is saying you can't cum, just that you can't watch porn.
>>84210104I don't care about it so long as I could get a gf
>>84210104Most men including myself are so porn addicted that they think they can't jerk off without videos or other external stimulation. This is beat into us from birth by society. He literally unknowingly construes this as you telling him that masturbating is cheating. Pretty gay if you consider 2D porn cheating though
>>84210104My ex and I had a deal, if either of us caught the other watching porn we would just fuck them instead.
>>84210297That's the world we live in though. It's like a horse girl telling her man that he can't drive a car in 1926. It's not a fad, the world has changed, and it can't go back.
>>84210104That can be a reasonable request so long as your body remains freeuse to him.
>>84210323It's definitely the world we live in. It certainly doesn't have to be. A better analogy is being told to use an ebike rather than a regular bike, they get you to the same place in a similar time, one is just easier and worse for your health.
>>84210104Normal if you actually put out till death
>>84210104Men have sexual needsMeet them or they will get them somewhere elseI already know you can't meet them if this is your mentalityStop trying to police men's sexualityWomen can sleep around as much as they want to get their needs met and men have to rely on porn and even that you want to take away from themYes I can't wait to enter into a relationship with a frigid woman who is controlling and offers little else
>>84210297if your partner is happy to take pictures/videos of themselves and you use that instead of random porn from the internet, is that any better? is that porn permissible?
It's only fair if you yourself also never watch porn, OPThat includes soft core, or any form of media that sexually stimulates you. Yes that includes 50 shades of gray and the twilight movies.If you think that's crazy, then congrats: you are beginning to understand your bf now.A better alternative would be you two can only watch porn together to get ideas in the bedroom, and only if it turns both of you on
>>84210356Of course it's better. Personally my issue with porn is that you don't know if it was ethically made & it destroys your brain from constant dopamine. If your partner is making something for you then it's made ethically and it's not as rewarding, because the reward mainly comes from the instant access to thousands of women.
>>84210376What do you mean by rewarding? I'm not well versed in this subject
>>84210392Males recieve a ton of reward neurotransmitters while watching porn. In most species of mammals, the goal of males is to have as many offspring as possible (humans are kind of in a weird inbetween but we definitely still are like this), so when you watch porn, which simulates being with tons of different women, your brain is flooded with reward chemicals.It's similar to a nicotine addiction really. It raises your baseline dopamine levels so when you're not watching porn, you crave more. It also acts like any other addiction where you need more stimulation after a while, which is why men who watch lots of porn can develop erectile dysfunction during regular sex; it's simply not as stimulating as porn.
>>84210409That makes sense. I like to think when most people are in a relationship they'd rather cum with or to the person they love rather than porn, but maybe I'm idealistic.
>>84210104You are just crazy bitch.
>>84210104if i'm fucking my wife seven times a week, why would i watch porn or even jerk offif i'm not, then ill watch porn to jerk off
>>84210104I dunno about you, but my gf doesn't mind if I watch porn, neither do I care if she watches porn. It's not like neither of us haven't seen it before, and unless you plan on seeing your boyfriend every week at LEAST then you're basically setting yourself up for failure by demanding them to be chaste for no reason.
>>84210117>images/videosIf couldn't teach a girl that porn is porn regardless of what form it comes in or your perso piss take about it THEN its a dealbreaker.Thank fuck I dated a repressed Christian who tried to work with it cause she knew her opinion was mostly just Christian propganda.Sure we dont fuck with the same media but we try, I let her summarize her smut send her related webms while she sends me mangas that she knows I would fuck with but regardless the only thing that would matter she would never consider her shit better than mine based soley off 'words are highbrow porn' BSTL;DR your a typical women, that typicaly wants to keep her whole smut bookshelf while her man has to look away during sex scenes in movies. No YTA.
i'm biofem into biofems>inb4 whatever idgafporn is not cheating. i've encouraged both of my exes to watch porn. let people enjoy life.
>>84210104porn to men is kind of like an action movie for our dick. its unrealistic and ridiculous, but if you dont want him to watch it and ask him to stop then its fine. idk why a guy would watch porn when be can literally have sex lol
Porn is very clearly cheating, if he's unable to give up porn he chooses porn over you then that's a porn addiction
Don't listen to any excuses anyone makes. Guys will always claim libido or bullshit like that, gaslight that you're not putting out enough. Let's actually happening is he's putting porn above you and the relationship. Cares more about porn than about you
>>84210104Yes, you are the crazy one here. If porn is cheating, then visiting a museum is theft.
>>84210104Do you want to fuck twice a day? No? Then too bad. I live a healthy lifestyle and as a result I am always horny It's a physical release. There's no amount of self control I can implement that will get rid of this physical need, and it's something you will never understand because you have a vagina
>>84211160You sound like you have a porn addiction and are unable to give it up for the person that you supposedly love
>>84211170See? This is the kind of excuse a porn addict makes choosing porn over you. If there's something that matters to you then your partner should be able to do it for you easily. But instead making arguments like this to justify porn is disgusting
>>84211172One shouldn't have to. Porn is just MEDIA. You aren't fucking anyone else, you aren't talking to anyone else, you're just viewing something. It's like asking someone to give up youtube or netflix.
>>84211173I just wouldn't date someone that has a problem with it. Easy. I'm not wasting my life with someone like this
>>84210104we need to cum. we're going to continue to cum, while you can be sad over there in your corner and scheme against men like the abhorrent creature you are.
>>84210104Well OP are you willing to satisfy him whenever he wants? Some guys want to do it several times a day, can you keep up with that? If so, then I'd say it's a pretty reasonable demand for him to give up porn.
>>84210117You did not answer the question. This is the answer to all of your retarded screeching. Men don't think, they know that you're irresponsible, untrustworthy, immature, selfish, narcissistic, yet worthless hole. You're being treated as such.
>>84211173Are you going to watch movies instead of making me breakfast? You better not be spending time talking to your friends instead of giving me a backrub. I hope you don't think you can have that bubble bath either since it's time for dinner. Make sure you prepare sandwiches for tomorrow before you lie down like a starfish and let me rut into you tonight because I have a long day at work.These are the things that matter to me and if you try justify not doing them then you're fucking DISGUSTING.
>>84210104do you see us bothering you over all your yaoi and Romantasy novels?
I DON'T SEE HOW IT'S CHEATING, I'M NOT FUCKING THE COMPUTER
>>84210104This post is further proof that a woman's only actual value is their sex appeal and they know it.Women can't fathom that men can love you and fuck another woman or watch porn. To Women, being fucked is equated to love and being secure (hence, if she fucks you on the first date, she really likes you and she's probably BPD)My girlfriends are not always available when I want to cum, so I've used porn as a tool, the woman means nothing in the video. You foids should be grateful that you get the full love and care of a man and not just his lust
>>84210104do you read smut or use ai chat bots
If a bitch is anti porn that means she's gonna sperg out against anime and the best video games. What a boring karen.
If you consider porn cheating, you better be having sex with me 3 times per day, every day, sometimes waking me up during the night for sex.
>>84210132It's really that simple but holy hell are women idiots when it comes to us
>>84210104No, im a man and i have the same dispositionif i am in a relationship i shouldnt need to fantasie about anyone else but them with my imaginatin, but try telling that to braindead dopamine fried zoomzooms etc.>have i done it regrrettably yes, but due to the relationshit failing anyways, shit sux, would rather have notmass porno consumption is an ever cancerous disease and a poor cope for all thingswe should really ban it and hang the studios making the snuff
>>84210104>Is this just how most men think?Yes. I don't think women understand just how horny healthy men are, remember how horny you are when you ovulate, imagine you are ovulating 24/7 every day of the year, wouldn't you want some quick relief too? Porn is perfect for that, they are not going to hookers, they are not cheating, and you don't have to be in the mood or even do anything. It's like scratching an itch and then just getting on with your day.
>>84210104i deleted all the porn i had and stopped using it when a femanon was interested in me.she ghosted me anyway
>>84210297>how ingrained porn is in our society. what is porn? Can you define it?>You guys can't even imagine jerking off without it.I'm pretty sure I'm masturbating without any porn by your definition.>No one is saying you can't cumYes, this is what you're saying. I've experienced it my entire life, starting with my stupid ass mother. > just that you can't watch porn.What the fuck is even >watching pornI'm pretty sure I'm not watching porn. I'm so fucking tired of human stupidity.
>>84210104I actually agree with you and although I'm not perfect about porn use, I'm now 4.5 months clean and have no plan to go back to it.
Women are gatekeepers of sex and men are gatekeepers of commitment. If you're gonna take away his only other outlet for release, then you better have either a permanently open gate or expect his gate to close on you and open for someone more reasonable.
>>84210104That's fine, so long as you don't think watching porn outside a relationship is problematic.
ill be honest i wouldnt let my gf watch porn but i wouldnt stop watching porn myself in a relartionship. its different for men
>>84210104>Is this just how most men think?Its only gooners who think this way.
Wow, another thread full of porn addicted freaks making excuses as to why it's okay to dehumanize women. Absolutely demoralizing.
>>84211964I just want you to know that your post means nothing. You've just spouted random words that make no sense whatsoever.>Absolutely demoralizing.you bet human stupidity is demoralizing. you're a prime example.
for some reason chad keeping a harem is not cheating or "dehumanizing" no, but the beta bux watching porn is cheating lool
>>84211964Wow another woman who refuses to take any responsibility for anything everWomen are as complicit in the creation of porn as men if not more so and benefit from it immenselyI bet you think all those poor actresses who fuck producers for roles also did nothing wrong
>>84211964ill have hot loving sex with fembot
Yes most men are porn addicted cucks.
>>84210104I think it's reasonable as long as you fully commit yourself to sexually satisfying your boyfriendbut unfortunately in 99% of cases women just want full control of men's sexuality and use it as a bargaining chip and trade sex in for favors
>>84212288there are women in years long dead bedroom marriages who wont let their husband watch porn lol. roasties have no shame whatsoever.the fact is that most foids simply hate sex with nonchads in longterm relationships, thats why their bfs/husbands watch porn
>>84210104Considering porn as cheating is a bit extreme and irrational. You have to approach the topic with tact and compassion, not misandry and disgust. However, if you don't want a partner to watch porn, that is totally understandable. Porn is a poison on society, especially the brains of young men. Its what makes incels so brainbusted and mind broken. They are self hating gooners obsessed with cock size and height, cuckolding, trannies, bbc, anal, and femboys all because of porn. Gooning culture is trying to normalize porn addiction. Its sickening. But the average dude is not going to accept this immediately, despite understanding some of it. They have normalized being able to see women naked on a whim. So for average guys who aren't gooners, use your head not your emotions.
>>84210104Men are all cheaters and they cannot handle it. If I found out my partner watches porn I cheat on him as a revenge, to teach a lesson. So far I have done this in every relationship cause men cannot control their wandering eyes
>>84210122Romance novels = fiction, imagination.Porn = real people having sexMan watching porn is like a peeping tom wanking outside a window
>>84210132You have no imagination? Are you that mentally challenged?
>>84211964>ugh why am I not the center of attention all the time! Here's your (you) go take a shower stinky foid
>>84210104>>84212345>fictionThat's why I beat my meat to hentai
>>84210104its because we know for a fact, you will barely be able to sate our sexual needs. you will likely ONLY want sex when you want it.if you could manage to actually satisfy your man then they wouldnt have porn, but porn is there to supplement you because you cant. otherwise the alternative is just having side girls.
>>84211964well if you think men should take care of you or protect you or spend money on you for any reason you are fetishizing men. it works both ways unironically.
>>84212345Bait, but some women actually believe this mental retardation, some people should be enslaved.
>>84212336that doesnt hurt men, that just hurts you lol.the guys will just replace you, while you will end up alone. every day you waste brings you closer to permanent loneliness.the guys will just get tired of it and get a cute girl from argentina
>>84211238>says she wouldnt cheat on her partner even with porn>spergs sperg out about being Irresponsible, Untrustworthy, Immature, Selfish, Narcissistic, and Worthlesslol
I don't even really watch porn much (I just see it incidentally on this website) so it would not be difficult for me to give it up completely and I would do it to keep my bitch happy, but I think it's ludicrous to consider it cheating.It's not unreasonable for a person to dislike their partner watching porn for various reasons, it is a betrayal of sorts and it must be awful for self-confidence, but it's just not cheating.
>>84210104If you don't want me to fap to nude pics / vids of other girls, I demand that you provide nudes of yourself that I can fap to.Because I can stop watching porn if my hypothetical GF demands it, but I'll certainly not stop jerking off.
>>84210104I dont know, but Id like to agree with your views, if I somehow met a girl and she expressed that looking at other women to fap makes her sour, Id delete everything and just find something else, or just smoke more weed, hell, Id even stop/unsub asmr YouTubers if that gets her feeling down,
>>84210297Hand doesn't feel good enough unless the brain is visually stimulated. Unless I get the lube out but then cleanup is 5x worse
romance novels are worse than porn. porn is just a quick fap but roasties who read those things daydream for hours about being in a relationship with the protagonist, its emotional cheating.
>>84210376>you don't know if it was ethically made2D bros we are eating good.
Oh boy it's this thread again
>>84210104if you open lust for a celebrity crush and/or read erotica you have no ground to stand on
>>84210376>my issue with porn is that you don't know if it was ethically madeIs fapping to asian femboys sucking big black balls ethical in your opinion?
Porn is garbage and I agree.If you have compassion for those who suffer from addiction though, recognize that pornography is a drug that men get access to when they're young and have no sense of how bad it is.
>>84212780>>says she wouldnt cheat on her partner even with porn>loland nobody gives a shit, because nobody asked. quite literally nobody asked. question being asked aren't being answered. move goalposts somewhere else worthless whore.
>>84212345It's still the same concept dumbass
>>84210104I think men would be willing to live up to this standard if you were a virgin
>>84210104i unironically dont jerk off to porn.but my gf acts like my personal fuck toy so i really dont need to.ive had other gf's in the past that said i couldnt look at porn but also never initiated or refused sex.
One gf put out very regularly, I never yorked it, another gf barely did so I yorked it. Idk why this is such a cumundrum for an foids...
not sure how none of you can figure out the reason women wont make porn for you is because you all fucking leak it to their families and employers constantly and post it online including here A LOT and show it to your friends fucking immediately and then blame her for being a stupid whore who made it in the first place. what isnt clicking here babei have made it and had partners who did not do this but this doesnt mean that most people dont fucking do this literally all the time. consider it the equivalent of your shitty exes telling all her girlfriends what your dick is like and the weird things you like in bed. wow you try not to share that info either because foids are untrustworthy? crazy completely unrelated conclusion here!i dont get why youd give a fuck about your partner watching porn though. watch it with them and find what things turn you both on and what to try. watch porn that looks like the other person. not difficult here. but then i also dont get why you wouldnt want to fuck your partner constantly so this entire sex-as-a-barter-system is incomprehensible to me. i would so prefer if people could fuck on the first date to get it over with and then just relax around each other but apparently this is verboten. personally when i tried to hit it and quit it finding it all kind of meh after the guys wouldnt leave me alone and decided we were dating now as i tried to get them to move on and failed and then just dated them growing into love. i am aware this is apparently abnormal.why do any of you give a fuck if your man jerks it to porn or your woman jerks it to books. they are fucking YOU. and if they arent, find someone who will.
>>84213156explain what special questions you demand need to be answered. is it if she is a virgin? does she do anal? how big are her tits? is her pussy shaved? does she send him porn of herself (nice enabling whoredom by the way)? does she read romance novels? does she talk to ai chatbots? what is a sealion? what is a trap? what is a ruse? what is my cock in your mouth and you sucking like a good girl?
>>84210104Yes. Deal with it foid.
>>84210104No thats reasonable.The question is how you consider that as a dealbreaker.The thing is I am struggling with giving up porn and masturbation. There are weeks I go without it an then I relapse.So if I e-date you without us having sex, I may relapse. And its likely.A guy who tells you otherwise is likely LARPING. The thing is I am a fundamentalist Christian, but I am also a convert from the world. And therefore I had freely done everything for many years prior, and that has left its mark on me.The only people who are somewhat untainted by this are those who never ever come here.So what do you expect or want?
