Did feminism fail women?
It seems women are happier being loyal housewives with loving husbands and children.
>>84215434No. But it may have destabilized the power balance too much in the last 100 years or so. Foids going mask-off about their abortions is very galvanizing.
>>84215434>>84215446It's so funny seeing westerners today realize why not a single society or civilization in history gave women equal rights.With gen z and alpha being first generations in a century where support for feminism declined it seems we will see end of feminism in our lifetimes.
>>84215434>being a wife LE SUCKS>being a working woman LE SUCKSHow horrible is it that women can't just be given money for free. Damn The Patriarchy for making women choose between leeching off a man, or leeching off a corporation. What are the women who hate both men and working supposed to do?
>>84215446most marriages were hell, it's entirely unsurprising women ditched the idea once they had more opportunities.The idea that housewives were all happy is just retarded men with delusions of power
no feminism is never wrong, women failed feminism because the patriarchal forces in their lives conspired against them so it's really mens fault
>>84215434Not really. Femenism (in the beginning) was about giving women agency. She couldnt have wanted to be a homemaker. She would have to be. its easy to take our blessings for granted. I for example am an immigrant from a shithole country where women cant get educated and are tormented in the cruelest ways. It has made me immensely grateful for my life and I take education very seriously. My mom had do experience the pain of not being able to choose, but she fought so that I could.
feminism didnt fail women, we simply live in an anti-human lizard utopia where the only people who enjoy any of this shit are just lizard people
>>84215469i mean, when you're in your little echo chamber bubble, sure it looks like feminism support is dying. you actively avoid any information outside your worldview that might challenge it. i see you even got your security blanket-i mean graph ready. i bet looking at it every once in a while makes you feel safe. lmaobut in reality, western society (to its detriment) beomes more and more leftist by the fucking day. the most the right wing has done in the past 10+ years is raise gas prices and whine about a nigger being in a movie/video game/whatever. conservatism has conserved nothing
If success is getting married and having kids they failed by making that harder.
1. The Free Press media outlet is owned by an ultra-Zionist lesbian with connections to the (ultra-Zionist) Ellison family which owns TikTok, CBS, and soon CNN among other media corps, and her wife has connections to Epstein.2. All these "omg i love being a housewife" shills are career women.3. The nuclear family isn't natural.4. All the happiest countries have high levels of gender equality.5. Any fat, hideous mentally ill woman in America can get married to a guy who will support her.6. Women would literally rather work a boring, soulless, grueling job than marry you (assuming you could even support her).
>>84215434Feminism was based all along, before men were just a slave class for the female aristocracy that stayed at home like queens living off male labour. Enjoy your 9-5 bitch.
Are there still people who take marriage seriously? Have you ever heard the terms "office wife" or "office husband"? Married people are all having affairs with other men and women at their workplaces. Chastity no longer holds any serious value.
>>84215434The type of white woman feminism that popped in the 90s is what damaged women. The elite seized on it to pay slaves less.
>>84216766Do you have any evidence cheating has gotten worse? If anything it's likely gotten better since women don't need to simply marry any fugly guy to be able to gain access to a bank account. People in the past didn't marry out of love.
No, boomers did. Feminism is fine, but it's boomers who were the ones causing the entire situation.
>>84215434>Chronically single woman visibly mad that she was denied the opportunity to marry an oil baron or landed gentry at age 16Dumbass thinks the average woman in the 50s was living on a homestead raising chickens lmaoI'm sure getting knocked up by a 30 y/o steel worker and getting DV'd with literally zero recourse available was better than being a HR girlboss, love
>women were better mental health wiseIgnoramce is bliss. Women forever had to drug themselves in some way whether by heavy drinking or barbituates (aka "mothers little helper") just to deal with being a traditional house wife which included being abused by their husband that was the norm back then and unquestioned. It's what was required. It wasn't all sunshine and rainbows people make it out to be.I fucking hate the ignorance of people about traditional times like the 1950's.
>>84215434Women are happier, more fulfilled and more independent than ever. They are living through the best times they've ever had.
>>84217015>Women forever had to drug themselves in some way whether by heavy drinking or barbituates (aka "mothers little helper") just to deal with being a traditional house wife which included being abused by their husband that was the norm back then and unquestioned. It's what was required. It wasn't all sunshine and rainbows people make it out to be.Women love the pump and dump. They love being in chads harem
>>84215434It did as it was intended, and ruined women and society. It didn't fail anything as it was never intended to help people.
>>84217027hahahahahahah lol
>>84217215What's so funny about that, anon? You're not a sore loser, are you?
Wow keeping Charlie Kirk's legacy alive
>>84215434>Did feminism fail women?Absolutely. They actually were happier when they were married off young and turned into baby factories. Of course, the jews had the ruin that.Now foids are total degenerates, who usually vote for the worst shade of globalism available.
>>84218101>women were happier because of a lack of feminismWhat is your evidence? Life has changed unbelievably since then. Americans in general were more happy post-WWII with high growth and stability. Right now, socializing has been made nearly impossible if you don't already have a lot of friends, the future is incredibly bleak and uncertain, the most powerful people are promising to destroy the world, the economy growing doesn't get passed down to you, it's probitively expensive to have children or own a home, etc.Women can still choose to date providers at an early age, but they would often rather work a low wage job and have freedom over that.
>>84215434i don't want to have kids and i'm glad i didn't get married young. they can speak for themselves
>>84215434There are some areas in which feminism hurt women. For example, affirmative action and DEI made some people hostile to feminism who wouldn't be otherwise, because those practices are perceived as unfair, discriminatory, and as undermining the meritocracy of the society. As far as women are concerned, it also undermined the credibility of women who reach positions of high socioeconomic status, as there's this suspicion that their actual merit might be more questionable compared to their male peers. Also, the constant hammering that feminism is a movement for gender equality, while concealing the fact that it's an ideology who's tenets preclude even recognizing male issues as issues that should be addressed with collective action. That also has bread a lot of resentment from people who perhaps wouldn't be resentful otherwise. Also consider, that artificially propping women up with no stopping conditions underlining what's too far results in less men reaching positions of high socioeconomic status, but women are hypergamous, so they are attracted to men who are on the same or higher level of socioeconomic status as themselves, meaning that the pool of suitors women consider viable shrinks considerably. Feminists of course accepted those drawbacks, because they perceived the benefits it would grant women to be worth it, but if you wanted to underline the disadvantages, then it's not like there aren't any.
no, capitalism did (and it failed men too).it's admirable how hard the jeet-muslim unholy alliance is trying to get the civilized world to turn on women's rights.they pay hundreds of these shitty "manosphere" ecelebs (all muslims or muslim-adjacent) to tell you why we should totally all have 15 wives and have women be our slaves, and retarded white incels will buy it.
>>84215434Tell me more about that first cutie.
>>84218662If you can look at and listen to the average woman today and say you honestly believe any of this youre beyond retarded.
now that they have to work like men do it's a problem and they want to go back to the 1950s kek
>>84215434source on video please I searched the free press on YouTube but can't find this specific one
i want more of the brown haired girl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCeL_N14WJkshe's seemingly based
>>84215494Women do what they're told, wtf are you on about?
>>84219078>woman is basedNot watching that + you're retarded
>>84216854yeah its some disney ass bullshit
>>84215434I don't give a shit. None of my business. Let femoids deal with it.
>>84215446idk what the fuck "hu" means, I'm not a zoomer social media fag
>>84215434Feminism failed everyone and ruined the world. I say this not out of feelings of superiority or hatred, but women's place is meant to be subservient to men. Anything else is unnatural.
>>84215434All she has to do is go on tinder and be honest with her intentions and she'll get the trad lifestyle. But she won't because she wants everything handed to her.A gynocentric society has made women so entitled even when they're handed everything
>>84218662buenos retardes mi amigothe manosphere is full of mystery meat browncels, most manosphere influences are some shade of poo and most of their followers are too
>>84219201Women only do what they're told when there are actually consequences to their shitty, retarded behavior like getting a backhand when they act up or being shunned by society for whoring around. Impossible for that to happen when the Jewdicial system is entirely tilted in women's favor, they get paid by the government for being single moms, there is an army of simps ready to bail out any foid and they have been told their entire life that they're perfect princesses.
>>84218883>If you can look at and listen to the average woman todayI don't interact with "the average", I interact with individuals and I like a lot of them.I don't have issues "looking at" a woman or listening to one because I'm not a homosexual.>>84218780didn't ask for your view, shitskin.
>>84218549incels will say anything to push their third worldists bullshit agenda, their new method is trying to gaslight women into believing that they're not actually happy despite living their best lives
>>84215434They dug their own grave>>84215446*with chad
>>84218549>Women can still choose to date providers at an early age, but they would often rather work a low wage job and have freedom over that.Girls are told and peer pressured into fucking around as much as possible when they're young or they miss out on life, and they're told that having kids young is the absolute worst decision to make, right next to doing drugs and dropping out of school.
>>84215501>it's always a man's fault exhausting gender
Women would rather bust their asses working a shitty office job than live under a man (for free btw) and raise his child and maybe do easy chores semi often.
>>84215434Every answer feminism has for women is to make them more like men.
>>84216760I overheard my female coworkers complaining about having to work and saying that "men are supposed to be providing for us"I really don't get why women even got rights in the first place, my theory is that all the ugly useless lesbians who hate women way more than men will ever hate women, are behind fucking up everything for women.My job got a new lesbian upper management, and one of the first things she did was reinforce the dress code and write up all the girls for wearing leggings LMAO Women hate women for real
>>84219708I don't get it, I'm an incel and I thought it was obvious that women have life so much better. They complain because they don't have a frame of reference of how much worse it would've been if there were male.>>84220044Pretty much. Gold diggers are a meme and only exist to extract wealth, and once they do they move on to a guy they actually love.
>>84220046Ohhhh. So the ugly bitches ruined everything. Makes sense now!
>>84220058I've noticed that a lot of male suffering is caused by things done to you, and women suffering is things they've done themselves, without guidance
>>84215434>i want i want i would love nullifies her entire fucking point lol. like yeah i also want to be a housewife, i probably wouldnt if i were forced into it with a man who i didnt really love at an early age where i didnt have the option to even consider what else i might want. the point is you get to choose and the shit she's complaining about lmfao, she's acting like it's hell when this is literally what your husband, if you were to be a housewife, would go through everyday. what makes you special that it's a personal hell for you as a woman to sit in a 9-5, it's a hell for everyone man or woman. god i remember when i was this retarded, i was also 13 years old and moids still fall for retarded low iq grifters like this
Yes, obviously. The most unhappy citizen in any country is a single, childless woman with a high paying job. You literally will not find a more heavily medicated and miserable demographic. Not even incels rate their emotional state as terribly as these women.By contrast, married women with children tend to be among the most content.
>>84219430I think it's not impossible for women to enjoy respect and prestige in society, but I think they definitely do have a proper role, and it is not imitating men. Women serve an irreplaceable biological function which is tied to the underlying social fabric of society. This is incredibly important, and we are seeing right now in our own societies what happens when marriage and motherhood are not given proper emphasis and respect by culture. The catastrophically low birthrates and deteriorating social cohesion are symptoms of the disease of feminism (read: female supremacy).Men have their role, women have their role. The male role naturally gives men more of a direct say in how society is run, since their sphere is more public while women's sphere is mainly domestic. Historically this has put women in a disadvantaged position relative to men, and led to abuses. I don't think male supremacy has to be negative for women, if it is done conscientiously and men are properly instructed in the responsibilities of their role as providers and protectors. In fact, I believe overall, women were better off under the leadership of men than they have been with suffrage and independence. In any case, the disaster of female emancipation from patriarchy is self-evident. Feminism is an insidious poison that throttles birthrates, tears apart families, and weakens the cohesion of society as a whole by atomizing individuals, stripping them of their defined roles. Feminism can't replace the systems it tears down because it has no constructive advice to offer that actually leads to a healthy, productive society. It's anti-natalist, inherently, as evidenced by the fact that there is not a single feminist society with an above-replacement birth rate.
>>84220156>Feminism is an insidious poison that throttles birthrates, tears apart families, and weakens the cohesion of society as a whole by atomizing individuals, stripping them of their defined roles.Well yeah.... Why do you think the elites funded it?
Be wary, women will push tradfaggotry, it's basically 5th wave feminism. They have squeezed out every last drop they could from what the left could offer and they know that tradcucks won't take anything away from them and won't rein them in so it's time for them to switch sides to keep building their gynocentric communist dream where they get to paid just to exist and men still have to work until they find a way to replace themselves with robots after which they will be persuaded to commit suicide.
>>84219350>idk what the fuck "hu" meanshookup
>>84220081sounds basedtotal female employment
>>84220046>"men are supposed to be providing for us"men aren't supposed to do anything for women, women are perfectly capable of taking care of their own needs
>>84220339>women can still marry early if they want to>actually, here's why they barely ever do it>well they can still marry late
>>84220339recent stats, even adjacent to the issue, such as the birth/death ratio in the first world countries and China suggest otherwise. It indicates that females get too much into "never having a husband and babies". But, also, that men aren't buying the used good off the market anymore. It's not that simps have suddenly seized to exist. Simps prefer to spend their money on 2d bitches, like vtubers, anime, and gacha, it seems like. Plus, sex havers realize that there is no point as in no benefit in settling down with a roastie, since a man in his 40's and even 50's has money. And more money than in his youth, AND can still pull bitches who are much younger than he is. More like bitches in late 20's early 30's throw themselves at older men just like they did throw themselves at college chad and older cock during the high school.
women enabled epstein and the elite cabal to continue exploiting people because they couldn't say no to power and money, they are cattle and always will be
>>84220404None of those women would undo what happened if they had the option. It's all bullshit.
>>84220253>women are perfectly capable of taking care of their own needsthey arent and you know that
The sad thing is 80 years ago there were lots of farmers and homesteads. That life was easily achievable with a minimum of effort. You want to be a farmer now and it's all about coming from a multigenerational farming family marrying into another multigenerational farming family. Net worth easily in the millions but it's a potemkin patchwork of leverage, loans, contracts, and insurance policies and futures at the whims and mercy of mother nature and the capricious clowns in capitol hill. Even just regular market gardening is a game for retired people who gave up everything to pursue the dream, and they won't even get five good years out of a pecan orchard they plant before dying and their kids sell it off to developers for more ugly and nonproductive cities/suburbs. Take a look at their books and it's basically hobby farming. They might turn an insignificant profit tending their smallhold but divide it by manhours and it's under the $7.25 federal minimum wage in a majority of cases. It's really another form of subsistence farming. Just enough to keep up with taxes, you cope by taking pride in doing honest work and eating food 10x better than anything that could be bought in the most ultra premium markets. It's a lifestyle, and in that case there should be a better path to it for those who want that life. Unless you are born into an amnish family you're forced to play the game of endless taxes permits fees licenses inspections etc. for no benefit.
>>84215494Absolutely delusional snake-believing, apple-scarfing, original sin committing, femoid daughter of Eve gigacope
https://youtu.be/vZt1iS6JeCs
>>84220190Low birthrates are bad for the elite. That's why they goose the population total with mass immigration. It's to stave off the depopulation death spiral that would have already started if not for importing tens of millions of third worlders with nominally higher birthrates (though their birthrates also collapsed within a single generation, thanks to the feminist mind virus).And think about this logically: why would the elite want fewer people? That doesn't jive with how they have accumulated wealth and power thus far, which is predicated on farming plebeians for tax money and corporate profits. Less people means less consumers, less taxpayers, less low skilled labor to pit against each other to keep wages at the bare minimum. The entire socio-economic system which has existed for the past few centuries is built upon the assumption of an ever-increasing population, or at the very least of a demographic pyramid with more young people than old people. But now we have more of a slightly top-heavy demographic column than a pyramid. Without mass immigration as mentioned above, we'd already have the inverted pyramid that leads to a total death spiral as a shrinking base of taxpayers is expected to support a growing top tier of retirees and elderly dependents drawing from the welfare system.The current system the elites built, abuse, and exploit depends upon there being more young people than old people. If they wanted fewer people, they'd be trying to kill off the elderly who draw on the pensions and welfare systems without producing anything. They're competition, essentially. Old people are basically the same kind of parasites as the elite, just individually smaller scale, they only become a problem when they get too numerous, and especially when they outnumber the productive citizens, which is the case already in places like Japan and Korea, and soon China as well. Expect to see the Age of Retirement abolished, and welfare systems discontinued.
>>84221033>inceltalks
>>84221119To continue: people fundamentally don't understand the "elites". They think they are trying to destroy the world. They aren't. They like the world. Why would they want to destroy it? They own everything. The elites are the ones desperately trying to maintain status quo. Think about who the elites have assassinated before they can give testimony, about who they kill off because they were getting too popular, or were in a position to scuttle an important piece of legislation or business merger. The elite aren't all-powerful, they don't control everything. They just aspire to. Why have corporations which theoretically should be in ruthless competition against one another largely consolidated down into a smaller and smaller collection of behemoth conglomerates over the decades? Why is it these "competitive" companies all offer more or less the exact same services and goods with no discernible difference? Why does the government allow such things when there are laws which were ostensibly created to prevent exactly this from happening? Cause everybody who matters benefits from it, of course.Fewer companies means fewer people to bribe / bring into your conspiracy. It makes it that much easier to surveil the populace. That's a big concern for the elite. I find that most people are not really paranoid enough about surveillance. The elite are terrified of nothing more than a real populist movement, something they don't control and which could lash out unpredictably. They monitor everyone to catch these things in their infancy and then quash them through any means necessary. They block, ban, suppress, smear, and spread disinfo with their mass media, and if that doesn't work they infiltrate, derail, subvert, and sabotage the movement from within. They hack websites and apps to scare away users, they lean on financial institutions to deplatform, they even assassinate if necessary.
>>84221228To continue: the elite therefore didn't create feminism. They simply exploited it, like they exploit everything else created by others. The elite aren't omniscient, they're subject to shortsighted greed like everybody else. Feminism was an opportunity to massively inflate the workforce and drive down wages, to atomize society further by pitting men against women and weakening the family unit. Families were sources of strength independent of the system created by the elites, families could lean on one another without directly participating in society. That is a privilege only allowed to the elite. So the elite subverted the family, for the masses, while carefully maintaining their own family dynasties. Feminism was far more ambitious than the elite ever could've dreamed. They initially just saw it as a wedge to insert into the family unit by giving women a vote independent of their husband and a means to support herself. But then women started undermining gender relations even further, in more fundamental ways that just the institution of marriage. They started muddying the definition of man and woman, and promoting alternative lifestyles and sexualities. The elites were initially all for this, too, because it presented more avenues for profit. The potential of creating and selling entire IDENTITIES to people, as an industry. The idea that people were so malleable that the elite could, in the future, essentially mold individuals into whatever shape they wanted. It had a lot of appeal.The elite still see feminism as a useful tool, which is why they won't abandon it even though it has proven to be a poison rotting the essential core of society from within, causing low birthrates. The elite are trying everything except getting rid of women's rights. Artificial wombs is big right now, with the technocrats. AI was supposed to fix the labor shortage. Rolling back women's rights would cause too much chaos, so they'll try everything else, first.
>>84221344To conclude: the elite, meaning the powerful people in and behind the government, most of the super rich, particularly the old money families and generational plutocrats, and their willing sycophants and stooges, have a vested interest in maintaining the system we have right now, and not allowing it to deteriorate. If they could easily transition to a different system that preserved their status and control, they would've started doing it decades ago. They've known about the current trends for a while. Mass immigration was their first attempt to "fix" it, believing that the plebeian masses were essentially fungible and it didn't matter what skin color they had or what language they spoke. America was their test run. But they didn't control for enough variables. America has a long history of immigration that allowed it to cope with the massive uptick in third world immigration in a relatively stable way. There was backlash but nothing media smear campaigns couldn't keep a lid on. Europe attempting to follow suit was a disaster because European countries do not have any experience with absorbing large numbers of foreigners all at once. The backlash was massively amplified and translated into immediate political chaos. It set the elites' plans back by many years as they now had to deal with all these nationalist / populist movements that had to be subverted. The leaders bribed or killed off or blackmailed into submission. It's why none of those 'anti-immigrant" parties in Germany, Sweden, or elsewhere never delivered on anything or massively watered down their original platform once they got power. These parties however they started became controlled opposition to allow discontent to vent into useless political inaction.The elite don't want depopulation because it will disrupt EVERYTHING. The economy, the political system, everything. They are trying desperately to prevent it.
>>84221435Thank you for reading a working draft of my manifesto. I am not currently planning or engaged in any domestic terrorism and any insinuation of such radical plots against the social order are a projection of the reader's own anxiety onto my (purely informative) writing. I realize nobody will read this which is one reason I went to the effort of typing it up into 4chan sized posts. Just one stream of piss into the open sewer of the internet.
>>84220369Women have infinitely more versatile options to men, of course
>>84215434>>84215446Just want to be clear that these whores are just mad they actually have to work for their keep rather than leech off a man
>>84215531As a young man, while yes I hate conservatives for being lying cheats. That's not going to make me support feminism again. The until feminism fixes its misandry problem, I don't know where young men are going, but they're not coming back.
