>>84228069
>I can't understand why
Because you want only money and minions. You have no idea what friendship is.

>>84228082
dunno what you mean.
I think my issue is that people act like assholes and I get offended and then I confront them for being an asshole and they get mad and ghost me.
why I can't be loved and not insulted? being insulted is "normal"? making fun of me is supposed to be "love"? am I fucking crazy?

What is a friend to you anon?

>>84228329
Someone who gives me gifts and defends me in discord cliques when I start drama.

>>84228329
a friend is someone who's nice and we have a civil discussion

>>84228123
you only have standards and don't put up with some bs, that's why, it's very easy to be an asshole online because there's basically no consequences and broken ppl don't wanna be better just because you don't like it, i'd say keep up, if you start to tolerate these type of things you'll be as worse as they are with you, and if someone happens to ghost you bc of this, good for you, at least you don't waste your energy on someone that don't deserve it

>>84228475
I don't have an issue with assholes per se but as a person that have suffered neglect and abused in childhood and also have autism (diagnosed) and probably depression and ptsd (undiagnosed) I tend to project my insecurities to others and by this others feel that I am get offended easily by their actions like if they're judgmental toward me.
yes, I act like everyone is judging me unfairly but the reaction people get from my projections is like they get very upset instead of dealing with my insecurities.
many times people are fake sympathetic towards me and I closed my self off and they get very offended by this.
to fake sympathize with a mentally unwell person is very insulting but people just can't deal with rejection to their fake insulting kindness.

sorry for the shit English, I'm ESL, I need a fucking therapist, I can't understand humans for fuck sake

>>84228576
the reality is that ppl aren't obligated to deal with your traumas, but as I said, each and everyone of these ppl that DON'T try to understand you and what you're feeling are not worthy of your time, you're a person after all and I truly think you deserve someone who understands you but I don't think you should beat yourself about it, yes you can try to seek help and get better in dealing with some emotions but don't do that for others, do that for yourself if you think you need it

and yeah I get you, I can't understand humans either, but I can't blame them, everyone is in their own worlds and ignorant in their own way, it takes a lot to look at another point of view and sympathize with a stranger, specially when you have a routine and a job etc etc

>>84228711
from a young age my parents said that autism is narcissism and me doing things makes other people pain and suffering.
so I end up self deprecating myself and people get the reaction of
STOOOOOOOPPPPPPPPPPPP WITHHHHHH THE SELLLLLLLFFFF HATTTTTEEEEEEEEEE
(ghosting me)
so I understand they don't want me to self deprecate so I become a super autist and I starting to sperg about my insecurities and they go
(ban from discord server)
I have more issues like I have zero hobbies because I'm depressed all the time and I just sleep and consume slop on the internet
and people get weirded out by this.

I just never learn to be happy and that's my main issue but I can't be happy because everyone rejecting me
and WHY everyone is rejecting? because I am NOT HAPPY.

I am basically wanting to be loved but I get rejected because I missed the normal childhood and functional and lovable idealized household.

all my becoming normal journey mainly happened online and I got shit for my attempts for socializing so my conclusion is the internet is 99% normiecore shit.
as mentally ill sperg I should touch grass and have sex irl instead of chatting with anime profile pics on discord.

>>84228069
are you nice? if you're nice then at least you should be finding acquaintances

>>84228069
Ok, my experience is that you can only make guy friends online if you're both playing a video game together or are in like a bigger group. Hanging out with a dude (singular) on discord is the most miserable and awkward experience imaginable. The conversation typically gets dry really quick and it's very hard to bond with them 1 on 1.
Women on the other hand will just really rip your heart apart.
They are great conversationalists on average which makes bonding with them fairly easy at the start but the picosecond they get bored of you she ghosts you or starts putting 0 effort into the conversation.
These are the ones that hurt the most because it happens out of nowhere you could be 30 minutes a day a week a month a year into the friendship and they'll just disappear
You'll be left wondering what the fuck you did wrong kek

>>84228123
>why I can't be loved and not insulted?
it's called playful banter and it's actually a core part of bonding with someone.
No one likes someone that gets pissy at jokes. If you can't throw shit at them they're not your friend.
What matters is intention, if they didn't mean to offend you and you got offended and lashed at them of course they will fucking ghost you since you decided to make shit awkward for no reason.

>>84228909
>talk all day with a girl from here
>she's actualy cool. played all the hits of a actual unc gamer. (morrowind, deus ex, old fallouts and warcraft + it's arcade a shit tonne)
>say goodnight as I head to bed she responds with some drawn DS style pic with her own goodbye
>can't sleep so hours later I take that pic and put it in a 'we doing x now' meme that I drew up in paint
>no response, just nothing for days untill I send another Hi to which we talk for like 20m if that
>can feel that I'm extracting conversation from her and just stop

I feel I can't befriend single women because at some point they will drop me for a guy who will hit on them.

>>84228909
I'd a similar experience with discord so I am all in on "touch grass" pill.
the issue with friendships it only work in a proper setting like work or school but I was in special ed with retards and my retarded friend was the worst friend imaginable so I ghosted him.
then I graduated and got a shitty office job but no one wanted to interact with me because I was too odd for the environment also got fired from there.
your average normie basically have friends from work/school that he forcing through humiliation ritual to stay in contact with. this is how 90% of normies operate.

I tried to get online friends from the discord route and discord friend groups are just cycle jerking pseudo cults.
my conclusion is that friends are useless and the only thing a person needs in life is a partner and a family.
I want to find a boyfriend (I'm gay btw) and to adopt a dog and it will fulfil my social needs

I also thought finding female friends was better for me cuz I am a faggot but the stereotype of "her best friend is a gay dude" is just a stupid TV cliche from the 90s

>>84228967
I got better with playful banter but still, people some times say weird shit that makes me freeze and say passive aggressive shit.
normies are better at pretending to get playful banter without cringing or getting a reaction shock.

>>84228769
well having no hobbies is not a great way to make friends lol, srry for late reply I hope you see this, but I'd say you need to find love within yourself first, I understand you came from a bad background but you have the rest of your life to catch up, it may sound like a facebook motivational phrase but I'm talking from experience, it seems like you are trying to find happines in others but it's been inside you all this time, get out to get some sun from time to time (it's science, it helps yoor dopamine or some shit like that), work on finding something you like to do as a hobby, find things that help you improve in general

yes it's true nobody wants a depressive person around and you can't blame them either, it's your journey, you're the hero of your own story, you need to do this for you and only you, yes the love will come, friendship will come, but not if you don't love yourself first,

there's no such thing as a "normal person", everybody has problems, everybody's gone thru something, your not excluded from society because you wasn't fortunate enough to get a normal childhood

you still have time, use it wisely, it's your choice after all, time's gonna pass anyway, you can choose to be sad or learn to love yourself

>>84229277
leaving the interwebs and touch-grassmaxxing is both my defeat and solution to my problem
I used to be a total shot in and do all the shit my parents forced me to do like working at office job and taking a course of a useless profession I don't care about.
I'm starting my life late at age 25. I'm going to wage slave but in a job that I want to work in. I'm going date real people, not chatting with anime profiles in some server.
I hope I'll get better and less miserable and continue the touch-grassmaxxing. the internet is very boring nowadays, boring even more without the social aspect.
I learning to love myself very slowly but I will get there. recently I think alot about my past and I give metaphorical love to my kid self, the love I deserved then.

>>84229045
Unironically women aren't capable of being around men they aren't romantically interested in
Platonic relationships can only exist on very specific situations where the women don't have a choice on the matter (work, school etc)
On the internet that doesn't really exist so women only interact with us men when they want to flirt
Like I'm 100% serious here women only talk to men online if they're looking for a boyfriend. Yes even the ones in a relationship.
Women in love don't really want to spend time with anyone else other than their boyfriend. Women are inherently monogamous
If she ghosts you it's because you gave her the ick or someone is already filling in the role of boyfriend
I hope this recontextualizes every single prior interaction you've had with women online. Women themselves might do this unconsciously but really online if a girl is the one initiating any interactions with you bare minimum is that she's got a bit of a crush.

>>84229684
>recontextualizes
no lol I know all this
but thank you for elaborating my point
the only thing that annoys me about it is when women dont realise they are doing it

>Start relationship BASED of the fact we want vidya mates AND am both taken, cool lets play some vidya and never worry about each other being sus.
>nothing for 2 months but lets play someday
>first time she askes to hang out in vc isn't to play games but because she is talking to some guy who is creeping her out and wants backup
>call her out on it and ghost for a week
>blocked by the time I decide to reconnect via memes
all my whats

>>84229493
there's no rush to start your life as long as you start it, you already doing great, better than yesterday, that should be your goal, your only competition is the worst version of yourself

and yes get off the internet, as you said, there isn't a social aspect to it anymore, ppl don't really care about each other anymore, when you start dating real people, having real friends, you'll see how unreal this shit is (ironical isn't it)
and I truly believe you'll get there, there will be sad days no doubt, but as long as you continue you'll be fine, may not be in one year, or two, or five, but every day you'll learn something about yourself and how to love you more

if I could I would give you a hug rn anon, if you knew how life is exciting and beautiful, you'd started earlier, I am a total stranger and maybe my words don't mean much, but I truly believe you'll heal from all the trauma and have a better life living with yourself, you already did the hardest part, starting

>>84229073
>your average normie basically have friends from work/school that he forcing through humiliation ritual to stay in contact with.
Pretty much but true male bonding is still possible and feels genuine but it only happens when men aren't competing and they're forced to cooperate with each other.
Men don't have friends they have comrades
For women it's the opposite they have no sense of comradery but they have a much easier time bonding with other women.
Women aren't interested in having male friends

File: images (1).jpg (7 KB, 225x225)

7 KB JPG

>>84229751
>no lol I know all this
Kudos to you it's very rare to find other robots that actually understand how women think
>the only thing that annoys me about it is when women dont realise they are doing it
Women most likely do this unconsciously the same way when they get the ick it's not really for any rational reason just the lizard brain acting up

>>84229972
oh it defs a subconscious thing, but like that only excuses you for doing it a handfull of times. at some point it's back on you for not having the self awareness to see the shit you do. In saying that I dont expect grown as men to be that self aware so I sure as shit dont expect women to.

Just feels super shitty being lead on WITH FRIENDSHIP. it feels extra pathetic when legit all you wanted was squadie and can't even pull that.

>>84229684
i don't think this is true as i'm talking to a couple right now and there's no flirting etc.

>>84230082
just keep being the goodboi backup plan and keep thinking that

File: images (2).jpg (9 KB, 236x214)

9 KB JPG

>>84230063
>. at some point it's back on you for not having the self awareness to see the shit you do
That nigga Freud talked about this. How there is no free will and all our decisions are dictated by our sexuality.
Women have no fucking clue how their own sexuality works. It actually seems like they've grown to be more clueless in recent years
Men's sexuality is stupidly simple on the other hand

>>84230082
I'd need you to elaborate on your situation because context obviously matters and what I said doesn't apply to every single woman there's bound to be exceptions.
But at least answer me this; How do you think women flirt exactly?