>>84231584
Summerize this
"A zoomer girl vents about the "degenerate" dating pool, rejecting men with porn-induced fetishes and "cringe" kinks. She seeks a traditional, vanilla, monogamous relationship amidst a ruined modern landscape."

You're a fucking gen alpha kill yourself nobody wants to read your text walls

>>84231584
>i just want a normal relationship but our generation was ruined by the modern degenerate landscape. anyone else struggle with the same shit?
Yeah but it was the opposite, the women brought up their daddy or porn star or bdsm or choking/slapping fantasies to me

This is not modern thing, all men are degenerates because like 80% of men genetic experiments that should not have existed in the first place. Just give up and sulk into depravity or stay virginia

>>84231584
My fetishes are sex 2 to 3 times a day and I must finish inside of you. Plus kissing too.

>>84231584
i just want to be called daddy bro, aside from that im alright with normal soft passionate loving sex etc

>>84231584
i don't care to be honest. girls get too much attention on 4chan just for being girls.

you're lying to yourself and everybody else.
>I'm this and that
implying you know all of the future versions of yourself.
>just want a normal
What is your motive, anyway? Something is up here. I can tell.

>>84231584
>who can be happy with normal sex
Name sexual activity your consider as "normal".

>>84231584
I think a lot of people exagerate to fit in with the degen shit, but porn has definitley fucked people up.

Also ive done the neck thing because every girl id been with asked me to do it, ive realised now some girls dont.. eh the world was a better place without porn

>>84231584
Why do you think this board would be sympathetic to a female fornicator?

>>84231584
you can have wholesome monogamy most of the time with cuddling and vanilla sex and maybe do your future bfs fetishes one day a week? im into some mildly stuff but i'd be happy doing those things once or twice a week only

>>84231617
Yeah we should care less about foids and stop treating them like unicorns

>>84231584
Why does every woman have 20 exes and 300 guys they talked to, while most men only have a handful of both?

>>84231647
Women actually have higher libidos than men. The Jews know this. They literally have rules that their men have to fuck their women regularly because they wouldnt otherwise.

>>84231596
>>84231600
i don't care or even think about whores who were dropped in the head and their cringe sexuality. stop enabling their degeneracy.
>>84231621
you put your dick in pussy and fuck like a normal person without all these cringe unnecessary larping and fetishes.
>>84231626
i don't believe in compromises.

My wife and I have a pretty normal sex life but we do like a little bit of anal play, sorry OP.

>>84231630
thanks for agreeing anon

i want my future fembot gf to take the knot at least once. surely its not too much to ask. and no its not "weird"

Yeah, me. My weird fetishes are assjobs, thighjobs, lapdance/grinding and tit fucks. I like normal sex as well. I do not like anal, weird shit or role playing. My ex gf was into really weird shit and it turned me off big time

>>84231656
Its a capital crime in several religions. It is very weird

>>84231584
Sort of. I've talked about degen stuff with exes but I find myself to be kinda normal in bed.

Is it so wrong to want to have ONE person who you can explore shit with?

>>84231649
>you put your dick in pussy and fuck like a normal person without all these cringe unnecessary larping and fetishes.
What about kisses? French kisses? Oral sex? Handjob? Sucking tits? Striptease? Doing things naked together? Naked massage? Nuru massage?

>>84231647
Women select, men get chosen. It's easier to be the person that picks the chocolate then be the chocolate the nobody picks. Unless of course, he is chad. In that case it shakes up the whole jar and scrambles everything because the dynamic is now broken and HE can choose and reject as he pleases so women are scared of chad naturally because they are scared of rejection as it shatters their ego from being built up upon constant selection and rejecting. They really hate a man who can pick it he wants too, especially if they think he wouldn't pick her. Most chads don't have it as great as people think. Beautiful male faces are neglected and chosen for slightly above average ones.

>>84231647
i have exactly one ex. you have to talk to people to be able to find anyone, you know? that's how dating works. i am not going to keep talking to a man who is a sexual deviant. when you see red flags you are supposed to drop them and move on. not keep simping. not stick around like those cucks who cannot bring themselves to break up with bpd whores for some reason. people don't change.
>>84231656
what does that mean?

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>>84231584
Sorry but all us "moids" have become lonely porn addicts thanks to modern life. Though you women aren't any better. You just have different vices.

For example, the fact you let all those men touch you is quite disgusting to me. I don't want to kiss lips that have sucked some other guy off.

Might as well be a gooner if there's no women to be better for.

>>84231669
he wants her to ride the red rocket, to suck on the lipstick, to fuck a dog

>>84231669
"an ex" implies one out of a greater set.

>>84231653
Dw. I love shitting on other foids on here especially when its attention seeking

>>84231679
Chuddie cant read

>>84231584
You sound close-minded. Try having fun in life for once and stop being uptight

ofc foids like op didnt want normal romantic boring sex with partyboy chads in college. the internet is full of stories like this, a roastie does depraved shit in uni and then only missionary once a month with her beta husband and then somehow her past comes up and the cuck is crying on reddit about how unfair it is. well no thanks, everything my gf did with chad she has to do with me aswell

>>84231662
it is wrong because you should learn to be satisfied with normalcy. degeneracy is a slippery slope that is going to ruin your life. you are being a bad influence if you take someone who has a normal sexuality, which is quite rare nowadays, and make them feel like there is something wrong with them, that they should become a freak.
>>84231664
>What about kisses?
normal
>French kisses?
normal
>Oral sex?
normal if it's within reason. i think it's okay to lick your partner's genitals but not okay if you are violent about it, or piss in their mouth and stuff.
>Handjob?
normal
>Sucking tits?
normal
>Striptease?
not normal because you are emulating prostitutes. it means he is attracted to the the type of degeneracy that goes down in a strip club.
>Doing things naked together?
depends on what it is entirely. but generally not normal.
>Naked massage?
why does it have to be naked?
>Nuru massage?
i don't know what that is. apparently it's some jap thing. not normal.
>>84231699
everyone should be more close minded. the reason why we are so fucked as a society is because people became too tolerant of awful things.
>>84231701
what is this cuck fanfiction?

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i want a girlfriend to hold hands, go out in public and take photos with. if it ever leads to sex, vanilla is what im comfortable with because im inexperienced with sex. but i'll never have a girlfriend because im a real truecel with only attractive quality is having 70k liquid at 26 years of age.

>>84231716
Prostitutes emulate intimacy, you have it the other way around. You should be a whore for your husband and he should only desire you. Degeneracy doesnt matter as long as it is private and doesnt affect anyone outside of the act

>>84231686
From OP's post:
>tfw an ex who is the same age as me asked me to call him daddy and got upset when i laughed because it sounds fucking retarded (i stopped seeing him afterwards)
You see that there? "an ex"
Poor redditor is retarded.

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I can't believe all of these anons fall for this bullshit. I mean, I do believe since here is the evidence, but I refuse to acknowledge that these are real anons. These are all jeet bots.

>>84231728
It's not 2008 anymore. Attention whoring women come here all the time.

>>84231716
Or y'know, don't be a retard and learn to enjoy things with your partner.
Then again after fucking around with my bpd ex and being knuckle deep in her, I don't think anything would come close

>>84231726
Sorry chuddie, I was referring to her most recent post. I apologise, chuddie

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>>84231732
>It's not 2008 anymore.
Thanks, Mr. Calender.
>Attention whoring women come here all the time.
always has been. not the attention whore I despise because it just be doing attention whoring things.

>>84231724
no. degeneracy isn't okay in any context and you shouldn't be a whore period. there is a normal and innocent way to have sex. there is something deeply wrong with people who cannot be satisfied with that alone. there is no such thing as consequence free deviance. for example, that stupid bitch who made my ex think choking was normal might have argued the same thing you did. "if it's muh consenting adults it doesn't matter because it doesn't affect anyone!" but that's factually wrong. she made him think it was okay to do that to me out of nowhere. what you do in bed makes you normalize these acts on a larger scale.
>>84231733
why should you learn to be okay with something that is going to ruin your life? are you brainless cattle? case in point, you will never be a good person who can enjoy normal relationships again so you should have stayed with that hoe and dealt with all the problems that come with it.

>>84231584
interracial isn't a fetish you nazi whore

>>84231744
what if your bf starts out "normal" and vanilla and only develops weird fetishes a few years into the relationship? you wouldnt leave him right?

>>84231716
>depends on what it is entirely
Like taking bath together or dancing.

>i don't know what that is
Massaging body with your body. Primarily wwomen doing massage with her tits and ass.

>>84231744
>Ruin your life
You're clearly brainless cattle if you can't just keep it between the two of you and NEED to spread it outside the bedroom
Oh wait you're a woman lol you don't do accountability my bad

>>84231748
Of course it is, it's one of the most heavily fetishized porn categories
People are watching these videos and being aroused to it specifically because of the interracial aspect. How is that any different from any other fetish?

>>84231744
He was wrong in that he got carried away and didnt ask you if you are okay with it first. Who defines degeneracy? Some people will argue that any act that is not meant for reproduction is degeneracy, because sex should be for breeding primarily and pleasure second. Some argue that women should not feel any pleasure during sex at all and only please their husbands. Your view is retarded in my opinion, but you are entitled to it. However stop complaining online that most people dont agree with your retarded reasoning.

>>84231748
oh, here comes another type of cucked man that needs to die in a ditch and go extinct. apparently they even exist on 4chan of all places. interracial is not normal and it is absolutely a fetish. one look at its enjoyers will show you that i am correct so go examine your own twisted mind faggot. i have not had the misfortune of flirting with a guy who openly claims to have it, thankfully but if you look at how these interracial fetishists talk online, it is very much deviant and disgusting. there is a reason why (((they))) are pushing this propaganda all over mainstream pornography.

>>84231717
https://youtube.com/watch?v=pb2Kg6afeVw

>>84231761
Is this op? No wonder you're a retarded whore

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>people don't know what a feitsh is
>mfw

>>84231744
>normal and innocent way to have sex
Sex is never innocent, otherwise the concept of child moleststion would not exist

>>84231753
of course i would leave, i cannot tolerate that. but how often do you think that scenario happens? i specified "people who are satisfied with normal sex" so this would not happen if i found a guy who actually fits this description.
>>84231758
if you believe in holding women accountable maybe don't simp for whores and their degenerate behavior? you can start from there.
>>84231760
"muh consenting adults" is retarded, inconsistent reasoning but you are okay with that apparently.
>>84231768
yes. last time i checked, retarded whore doesn't mean being against fucking niggers. in fact, the most retarded whores i have seen are all okay with that and you adore them.

>>84231777
Youre not putting out any arguments for anything you say lol maybe take a break and calm down first

>>84231761
but its not about dating a nigger, that would be weird and wrong. its just sex with one while the bf watches and maybe the roastie saying stuff like "end my pure bloodline" and "im a race traitor whore" etc to make it hot. racemixing IS wrong, thats the whole point of the fetish

>>84231770
did she find something cool? whats her deal

>>84231584
I want to have loving, cuddly sex. Sadly, finding a woman who wants this is impossible as every woman wants to get slapped, choked, fingers in mouth, rough, hair pulling etc.

>>84231782
i did, you just don't like it because it doesn't enable your degeneracy.
>>84231784
ewww stop talking about that you gross cuck.

Are there any fetishes you arent against? Like, I want to eat a girl out to orgasm, or finger her while spooning, and i want to kiss her tummy and neck and hands. Also i want to cum inside...

>>84231777
>You adore them
Lmao no I don't.
From the weird way you act I can tell your a repressed ugly cunt
>Don't simp for whores and their degen behavior
I don't. My ex with bpd was definitely a degen but not a whore. I was her second.
I had a whore who wanted to fly me out to fuck her recently but nty.

This is a serious amount of cope for a guy just telling you to not be a braindead boring bitch.
Enjoy your dead bedroom if you can't possibly imagine being adventurous only with your partner.

>>84231796
i think wanting to kiss your partner's body within reason is okay but you shouldn't get too carried away with it to the point that you enjoy it as much as penis in vagina which should be the main point of sex. like if you want to have oral sex more than real sex that's not normal. it can be done in preparation for it.

>>84231794
Youre so stuck in your mindset you cant even imagine other viewpoints, its honestly funny to witness

>>84231584
A current gen hq sex doll is superior to you, because she isn't this uppity by default, requires less maintenance and doesn't have as many opinions.

>>84231759
people may fetishise it, but that doesn't make it a fetish
>>84231761
>>84231777
cope you nazi whore. what a tell you put interracial relationships on a par with homosexuality and incest

>>84231799
imagine using "you are not a degenerate!!!" as an insult. it will only be a dead bedroom if the guy is a deviant who cannot be satisfied with normal sex. your own logic crumbles on its own.
>deviance is okay if it's only with your partner
why? promiscuity makes them worse but those acts themselves are a problem. you shouldn't be attracted to them and be happy with normalcy.

>>84231808
She probably equates any straight same-race sexual act that is not penis in vagina with the homosexuality because you cant breed that way

>>84231806
because only a piece of plastic could fulfill your gross fetishes without giving you aids since all the whores who would be okay with them have multiple stds and a hundred bodies?

Good Lord I would do the most for a girl like OP but there aren't any out there.

>>84231825
>because only a piece of plastic could fulfill your gross fetishes
what are you talking about? A doll is pure, mine only and very clean. I clean her myself. You're dirtier than the doll.
>since all the whores who would be okay with them have multiple stds and a hundred bodies?
kek. the doll had less partners than you did, bitch. shut up.
And the doll isn't degenerate in the least. It's just penetrative sex. All you're dreaming of. No fetishes, because no reactions to the stimulants. Pure love and intercourse.

>>84231819
People should be happy with normalcy? You should be happy with doing whatever your partner requires of you and gets him hard and aroused enough to breed you in the end, if thats your purpose with normal sex.

>>84231808
the damage interracial has done to society is just as bad as homos and almost as bad as incest (ruining genetics) so i am wondering what brainwashed you into thinking it is normal.
>>84231823
well are you any different than said homosexuals in effect when you do that? why are you engaging in degeneracy instead of having normal sex? you are spiritual faggots to me.

>>84231804
so youre at least ok with your bf eating your asshole if hes not doing it for too long... well i guess its something

>>84231836
cope, racist whore

>>84231828
i can't find a guy who thinks like me. we were born in the worst timeline.
>>84231831
you wouldn't get offended by my opinions if you weren't a fetishist degenerate. you are lying.
>>84231833
yes they should. why isn't he getting hard from normal sex but weird shit? that's like a sexual disability and must be fixed, not enabled.

>>84231836
Cant even cum in the mouth of a bitch cause brain dead foid thinks its gay

>>84231839
no. if a man asked to do anything to my anus i would just assume he is a closeted fag. you know shit comes out of there right? why do you want to put your mouth there?

>>84231584
I dropped out of the dating world and I'll never go back but back when I was dating, anal could not be a hard no. I want to be able to fuck pussy, mouth, and asshole. Not all the time, mostly the pussy. But I consider anal to be vanilla. But that's it. Nothing else gets moved into the vanilla camp where it's just pussy and mouth. Anal gets moved there, and nothing else. Yeah I quit doing that now I fuck dog pussy. Don't even want a girlfriend and I never will have one and I haven't had one for over 15 years

>>84231845
>i can't find a guy who thinks like me. we were born in the worst timeline.
Well, drop a discord or email if you're white and in the US fembot. We're not getting any younger

>>84231845
Why is sex so important to you? Historically most people were able to refrain

>>84231852
>dog pussy
this is a foid shitposting

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>>84231853
Go for it OP

>>84231833
It is normality. Normalcy was a malapropism invented by Warren Harding

>>84231856
No this is a dude who is actually good friends with knottypaws.

>>84231845
>you wouldn't get offended by my opinions
You still have a lot of growing up to do and to learn about the world and people in it. Opinions do not matter. Opinions aren't offensive.
>if you weren't a fetishist degenerate.
I'm not a feitishist degenerate. I'm purer than you. You're not even a virgin, top kek.
>you are lying.
Yes, in so far, that I have no doll. But as a model situation, you can't compete with a modern day advanced sex doll. You're a human and think way too much of yourself and demand too much of others: attention, time, money, etc. Doll is the same as you as far as sex goes, penis in vagina, only purer and far less demanding than you are.
Imagine being so naive and empty, with no passion, that you lose to a sex doll.

>>84231862
Based on OP logic, you are a degenerate because the doll cant get pregnant and make babies

>>84231584
how old are you, op? what's your view on cumshots? not facials. only cum on boobs/tummy.

>>84231836
OP do you think contraception is degenerate?

>>84231864
>the doll cant get pregnant
why not? are you saying a doll can't have another doll inside?
>and make babies
and then a baby doll outside?
>Based on OP logic
there is no logic there, it's bait based on the absolute inexperience with life. 11 year olds think like that.

>>84231845
If I may...... people who pull up that stupid ass fucking timeline bullshit, are the FUCKING WORST. You will forever be a child. And it's off-putting.

>>84231853
i am white but not in the us. also, i don't know if you truly mean what you say because some guys just say whatever when they are not actually in agreement with you.
>>84231855
what do you mean? it is important to me for it to be normal. sex itself is not a main priority.

>>84231872
>i don't know if you truly mean what you say because some guys just say whatever when they are not actually in agreement with you.
I have no reason to waste my own time lying. I don't even watch porn or masturbate, and I certainly have never engaged in a degenerate sexual act like you're describing. I've fingered an ex gf a couple of times that's all.

>>84231872
>sex itself is not a main priority.
there it is. called it out 50 posts ago.

>>84231881
She wants a man who will only fuck her for babies and secretly have a side chick who actually satisfies him

>>84231862
demanding a normal relationship is asking for too much now? oh how dare i.
>>84231867
i don't think it's the worst thing ever but the obsession with it seems like a result of porn addiction. so if a guy asks for it, he is probably obsessed with porn stars because a normal guy would want to cum inside instead.

>>84231872
Just be celibate. It is like women cant seem to just give up sex. No wonder they all lose their virginity at 14.

>>84231584
Is it really normal if most people are not what you describe that you want? You desire something abnormal in this case.

>>84231883
nah. she wants a betabucks cuck who will raise Chad's babies while not complaining about a dead bedroom ever. She is after a tool, a utility. Not love, not even a partnership.
>>84231884
>demanding a normal relationship is asking for too much now? oh how dare i.
indeed because you don't know what a normal relationship is. you don't even know the relationship dynamic. fuck, you're so tarded because of your inexperience you don't even know that you yourself will change as a person over the next 20 years.

>>84231868
yes, it is the reason why casual sex is so common today and ruining society. it is not healthy for you.
>>84231881
>>84231883
why should it be a priority? go marry a prostitute then.
>>84231885
i am celibate.
>>84231889
it used to be normal. what i want was normal for most of human history. modern humans are not normal. they were brainwashed into thinking going against stigmatized acts that were literally stigmatized for a reason is revolutionary. people being unable to be happy with normal relationships is a generational issue.

>>84231898
>why should it be a priority?
>why do you breathe anon?
>why do you prioritize oxygen?
>you disgusting oxygen fetishist
blissfully unaware. complete lack of reflection. ignorance is nirvana for this animal.

>>84231880
You shouldn't be doing anything with your ex let alone finger her. That is degenerate. Also saying that you don't jerk off it's just a bold-faced lie. Thus proving this dumb bitches point

>>84231896
there is nothing more cucked than being a degenerate who is desperate for a whore girlfriend who will play along with your deviance. i don't see my worldview ever changing. the person i will be in 20 years won't magically be like "degeneracy is heckin awesome!!!"
>>84231909
oh so that's what you mean. then yes, sex is a absolutely priority for me. i will not be fulfilled if he is not satisfied with normal sex and asks for weird shit. this is so important that i immediately leave if i see any indicators that he will behave this way. sex is normal. your degeneracy is not.

>>84231910
Lol technically you're right, but OP has had sex herself so if she couldn't accept that, we've got a problem. And it's true, I Do not masturbate. I used to, but I don't anymore, not for the better part of a year and going strong. You should try it btw, it feels great to be free of it.

>>84231898
Who cares? Let it all collapse. And go back to /pol/

>>84231584
>tfw every moid i ever had a sexual conversation with disclosed a cringe fetish that turned me off like bdsm, orgies, interracial, cuck, incest, rape, anal, lgbt
Either its projection or you are attracted to this type of people.
>t.never watched porn, still a khhv, was raised in a religious family so thinking about hugs is already my limit, never had any non vanilla fetish and thought hugging while being in love was how people got pregnant until i was 15
Im an pretty sure theres loads of other anons like me

>>84231920
it affects our own lives. you can't run from it.
>>84231924
how is it projection? i think these things are all gross. and i am not specifically attracted to this type of person. i literally left when i saw it. the problem is it's everywhere in this generation.

>>84231884
>a normal guy would want to cum inside instead
many porn addicts are obsessed with creampies and cumming inside impregnation fetish. or cumming in mouth. cumshots are not even as common.
it's a matter of context. you're ok with oral but only because boomer porn normalized blowjobs and cunnilingus. at the time oral sex was considered as gross and degenerate as rimjobs now.

>>84231929
Its not. I am a man, live in a bumfuck village in western europe, i only hang out with other introverted or fairly normal men and i have never ever heard anything like that. All my mates want wives and kids.

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My future wife will never shave her pussy or armpits, not even trim. It is my fetish and I insist on it. A wife duty in marriage is to serve her husband and sexually satisfy all his desires. Wanting sex is part of being a man, and my degeneracy doesn't stop with sexy hairs. I won't let her wear pants because I consider that cross dressing, it's gross. She can't cut her head hair either, it will grow as long as nature allows because that's what the Bible says to do. She has to be a woman and act like one.
I'd prefer one who already knows basic skills too. I never thought knowing how to cook would be a rare thing because it's really not even a skill, at least not in the sense of something that requires effort or knowledge to be good at. But it seems more suck at it than are mediocre. I can understand being a little rusty when it comes to the finer points of canning or drying vegetables, zoomers probably only helped their grandmother like ten years or so until they died and their whore mothers never kept the traditions alive. I shouldn't have to teach extremely basic shit like how to make spaghetti or to peel the stiff ends of broccoli and asparagus and cook them longer than the rest instead of wasting them. I don't have a garbage disposal because the only thing that should go down a sink drain is water. The compost bucket on the counter is not gross, and we do not have garbage bins because we eat, burn, or reuse everything of what little we buy, nothing goes to a landfill.
Some of the women I work with brag about how stupid they are in the kitchen. Most recently one, wanted Chinese and had started cooking only to realize she had everything needed so she threw the whore thing out because the bottle of seed oil McDonald's tier stir fry brand stir fry sauce was out. Ridiculous. I could understand getting filtered by Japanese, it's about being as bland as possible and using obscure shit that doesn't grow here and everything is drowning in syrup. But Chinese is flexible.

>>84231929
I reiterate: Go back to /pol/

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>>84231592
>nobody wants to read your text walls
I'm fucked

took me ten years to finish my book,
which is like the peak of my scientific oeuvre,
and its over 300 pages

talking about fucked:
there is nothing like the devotional enthusiasm of a women getting hot on affectionate trust.
At almost 60 she made me cum in her sweet womb four times a night, first on evening for falling asleap, then after midnight when she woke up craving me in her again, and taking me still half asleep, again at dawn when she felt my morning wood rubbing against her cheeks, which turned into a long sequence of caresses and thrusting where her loving chants mixed with the voices of the singing birds outside, and another long series of alternately kissing, fondling and taking each others' whole bodies before breakfast. You might never imagine how deep your love, and what a sensual enchantment your craving can get, once you start experiencing what fully relating to each other means

>>84231842
NTA but die you commie faggot

>>84231584
>>tfw a guy i just started dating put his hand around my neck out of nowhere while we were making out and got offended when i was like wtf are you doing because his ex liked it so he thought i would like it too (i stopped seeing him afterwards)
How tall was he and how tall were all the other guys?

>>84231915
>the person i will be in 20 years won't magically be like "degeneracy is heckin awesome!!!"
That's not the point. You will understand the dynamics and humans better. Or maybe you won't and you'll stay retarded. Also, I'm tired of your bait. Certified Classic "you're wrong about everything" momet though.
>i don't see my worldview ever changing.
this is why you're retarded. I mean without irony and no offense. I mean clinically retarded. A diagnosis. No computing power. Frontal lobe 404.
And inexperience again. You don't know what kind of people say things like these.
Being stupid because of all of it. You think it gives you bonus points in any conversation. Adds to purity even. Le principeles and such. And you are wrong. People you're desperately trying to emulate change their opinions/worldview based on the new information, evidence, and circumstanes. Change is how human fucking adapt as species in the first place.
TL;DR: You have outed yourself as a retard. It has absolutely nothing to do with sex, whatsoever, by the way.

>>84231931
impregnation isn't a fetish. it is the purpose of sex. being able to cum inside your woman is normal. the reason why creampie fetish exists is because modern men simp for these prostitutes and being able to cum inside them is considered kinky, you usually can't do that due to stds. they aren't actually impregnating these pornstars. maybe the older generations had a point in finding those things gross and degenerate. you see how these things only normalize worse and worse acts over time, it's a slippery slope.
>>84231938
well you are lucky to live in a village but it doesn't represent gen z.

So it is wrong to be happy in so-called abnormal relationships?

Ithink you should go join the amish or something since you hate modern living so much and want to follow your dogma. Even then, you dont know what their sex life looks like. You do realise that degeneracy did not just appear out of nowhere, right? People have been participating in kinks, fetishes, homosexuality, incest, for ages. You just dont have insight into private lives. We can see more now because people can share anonymously and there is less stigma. And so only the hurtful things should be shunned.

As a woman, your job is to satisfy your man so he does not act with degeneracy in public. This degeneracy spike you mention is because of increased loneliness

>>84231966
It does, i have litteraly never met people with whatever fetish youre talking about and i live in the most degenerate european country
>you are lucky to live in a village
Kek no theres no women. Theyre all in 2 big cities.

>>84231966
The reason creampie fetish exists is because contraception separated sex from procreation. Now people see children as a burden and sex as risky. Prostitutes arent to blame; the Pill is.

>>84231942
you want a traditional wife but you aren't a traditional man if you are not encouraging good morals but degenerate behavior.
>>84231962
why? is that a part of your cuck fantasy?
>>84231964
yeah i'm sure you are not butthurt because you were personally called out or anything.
>>84231977
they are not happy. sexual degeneracy is like a drug addiction. they are always craving a higher dose and becoming worse over time. that's why everyone should learn to be happy with normal relationships. these things might have existed before but they were very stigmatized for a reason. modern society is glamorizing unhealthy lifestyles that ultimately makes everyone more miserable. if your man proposes degenerate acts, you should leave him instead of enabling this behavior because it will ruin your life.

>>84231977
>Not being into things like bdsm, origies, choking, LGBT, etc means you should go join the Amish

How do you guys feel so comfortable saying so many dumb things? I think I'm outgrowing the internet.

>>84231998
Read her other posts. She doesnt even think oral sex is normal.

>>84231997
>yeah i'm sure you are not butthurt because you were personally called out or anything.
stick to your guns as much as you want, I don't give a shit.

>>84231961
>nazi siding with a whore
tale as old as time

>>84231584
I would but I'm too old for you

>>84231584
I dont know i am a virgin so i would be happy with something as simple as a hug and a kiss

>>84231997
You can have nice things without it being equated to drug addiction. Anything can get you addicted, but as an adult you choose to have things in moderation. You can tie up and spank your partner without it becoming your sole purpose of living.

>>84231997
Modest dress, proper submission, running a house, this is all for the purpose of demanding good morals of my wife. I don't encourage it because that suggests I'd accept anything less. She either complies or she's going back to live a secular worldly life without me.
I'm a very traditional man which is why I am going to get a traditional woman. If I weren't I'd be happy to settle down for a worthless slut with no traditions or knowledge.

>>84232025
How old are you anyways to where the guys are that bad

>>84231584
Where do you draw the line? What is the most borderline non-vanilla thing for you? Would you even be triggered if he asked you to get on top? If you just want vanilla sex than why don't you just use toys?

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>>84231584
>I DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT WOMEN. i'm not dating them.
Is that something you just say or would you be willing to go on record and have your genital response measured when looking at pictures of naked women and men?

>>84232025
>I feel like the solution to my problem is to date someone from an older generation be gen z is completely cooked

How if internet is saying gen Z are based traditionalists wanting virgin gfs and marriage?

>>84231997
>you want a traditional wife but you aren't a traditional man if you are not encouraging good morals but degenerate behavior.
you're not a virgin. you're in no position to make demands of or bargain with traditionals.

>>84232027
i'm in my early 20s and only ever saw guys my age.
>>84232028
there are a lot of things that are extremely degenerate. i couldn't name only one as the worst because they're all bad and offputting. it is weird that you think i should go masturbate with toys as if wanting a normal relationship is too much to ask for. it shouldn't be.

>>84231584
>i just want a normal relationship but our generation was ruined by the modern degenerate landscape. anyone else struggle with the same shit?

You are completely correct about everything except choking. But that retard needed to have it guy that bedroom not during a makeout sessio
You would enjoy rough sex a lot with me your millennial daddy

>>84232030
what are you talking about? is this some "everyone is secretly homosexual" cringe?
>>84232032
you have to look at what they do and not what they say. what they are doing is partaking in degeneracy and not being fulfilled in normal relationships.

>>84232043
>is this some "everyone is secretly homosexual" cringe?
Only women. Almost all men are straight.

>>84232034
i am a virgin. i have dated but never done a sexual act. i have only kissed them and talked about sex. you are not traditional if you want to partake in modern degeneracy.
>>84232038
how about not doing it anywhere? why can't you just have normal sex?

>>84231584
Sounds like you want a teenaged relationship.

>>84232036
That sucks. My worst kink is high libido. I just want to have sex often, I don't want it to be degen.

>>84232047
lol everything proves that moids are way more homosexual than women. which is the case for all sexual deviance really. that's why there are tons of historical documents of faggots but almost nothing about dykes. that's why modern self proclaimed lesbians are either just mentally ill or larping. all the girls i saw in real life who claimed to be lgbt fucked tons of guys more than my straight friends or they are still obsessed with certain types of men, i never see them showing genuine attraction to women. women who do are exceedinly rare outside fo the porn you watch where they are pretending for money.

>>84232064
woah, woah. what are these descriptions of erotic fantasies and degenerate sex? Not in our puritan bread.

>>84232036
You got too much test in your blood. You gotta at least go easy on some of the kinky stuff cunnilingus. Pure PIV is boring, especially with birth control. It seems you are already addicted to something shallow. At this point just find a relatioship and look beyond sex.

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>>84232038
Id love to see you be roughly fucked by this millennial daddy and change your mind OP

>>84231997
>why? is that a part of your cuck fantasy?
No i am just curious, or are you tall chad only?

>>84232064
>lol everything proves that moids are way more homosexual than women
except for scientific evidence, didn't read any further

>>84232073
you finding it boring is the issue. that's how sex is supposed to be. why aren't you happy with normal sex?
>>84232079
i'm not indulging your weird cuck fetish. you should be ashamed of it.

>>84232097
Would you ever use contraception during sex or is that too degenerate? Would you just be willing to get pregnant every time your husband wants sex?

>>84231584
i was chad and a total degenerate but after meeting my wife
>cute
>loyal (honest signalling)
>virgin

theres no way I could treat her the way I did sluts from my past

you have to appear extremelly feminine and vulnerable, but at the same time see in the eyes of the man that he won't hurt you

also try to find some ways of subtly testing for it idk its honestly witchery
and its not like I was looking for a wife. I was flirting with her stupid slut friends and she showed up, I instantly changed focus

>>84232097
you're tiresome. normal sex doesn't equal what you personally like or want.

>>84231584
Imo I'm sympathetic towards the one who put his hand on your neck because of his ex, you could argue its the previous woman's fault, like a porn addict getting his gf into hard-core shit.

You're also correct in calling the weeb a faggot, I've been here since 2011 and the majority of trap lovers turn into trannies as they get older. That's why you see so many trannies on 4chan too, normal evolution of their faggotry because of years of being accepted under ironic humor. Sort of an inverse of that thing people sperg about with nazis getting accepted through racist humor in other places.

>>84232106
same with me. can not bring myself to choke her or slap her like with others because she is too innocent and precious.

>>84231626
I don't know why men are comfortable pushing fetishes onto their partners knowing they don't like it and are only doing it so they won't leave.

>>84231853
>>84231872
I met my wifer on a try 3000km away and in a different country, don't be pussies, go for it anons

also don't brag about being a virgin phaggot, she doesn't want you to be inexperienced, just non degenerate

>>84232118
that's the natural order of things. but modern bitches wanna hear none of it. fingertips into ears and
>blah blah blah I don't hear that's not real
Males are the dominant sex because of the sexual dimorphism. This doesn't mean BDSM, it means that naturally males do what they want. Considerate men who are not complete animals might consider the wishes of a female.

>>84231584
Shut up and suck my cock foid

>>84231647
Men are less attractive, have worse personalities on average, and are such whores that they turn regular white women into millionaires via onlyfans and travel to asian countries solely to fuck local prostitutes.

Unironically men are an extremely easy gender the hard part is filtering the good ones, who aren't sociopathic or won't ghost you after sex.

>>84232097
It is supposed to be that way because we are not supposed to anything more than just an animal. Because normal sex is designed for reproduction. Evolution shaped it that way. I don't find vanilla sex boring I find it not fun enough.

You are doing the right thing though. Women should push for monogamy. Vanilla or not, there's nothing practically gainable from treating sex as a source if pleasure

>>84232128
>how dare modern bitches not want to get anally raped!
And then men wonder why so many women find feminism appealing, lmao.

>>84232133
stop saying things that are untrue just because they sound good to you.
>the hard part is filtering the good ones, who aren't sociopathic or won't ghost you after sex.
females are the absolute worst at picking the partners. and all this
>females are selectors
is complete unscientific antibiological horseshit too.

>>84232134
If we are nothing more than animals we should just rape and kill instead of increasing intimacy with sexual and non-sexual acts that have purpose besides reproduction

>>84232149
Women are like OP don't want abusechad but you see incels ITT who are openly desiring to be the abuseChad in question. The only difference between you two is that Chad has access to women. You're both the same.

>>84232128
>>84232131
r9k reinforces my decision to be a celibate woman, thanks for keeping me on the path.

>>84232139
>And then men wonder why so many women find feminism appealing, lmao.
that's what I'm saying. you don't get to cherry pick. but "modern" females don't get it, they don't want to accept the reality. humans in general are bad at coping with reality and truth. truth hearts, reality is cold and hostile to everybody. it wants to kill all of us. and entropy will, sooner or later.
but that is all a tangent.
what matters is that you don't get to larp
>I'm a traditional virgin girl, tee hee
and at the same time
>males are not dominant and should always listen to me and only ever do what I say
you will never have both.

>>84232159
No problem I am a foid who likes telling other foids to suck my cock so they stay retarded

>>84232151
Different varying groups of society already do both (both rape and kill/increase intimacy)? There is no sexual act that has purpose besides reproduction though, make no mistake on that.

>>84232159
Ngl based on this entire thread, you're fucking insane.
You have really retarded rigid views on things and I don't think any man should be bothered by this

Hey OP can I hug and kiss my partner in public or is that degenerate since it does not lead to a baby?

>>84232134
If we're just animals then you have no need to moralfag about abortion, child abuse, theft, etc.

>>84232163
If you rape your wife she's either going to leave you or end up resenting you due to sexual trauma, that's the reality you'll have to accept because you don't want to hold restraint.

i honestly don't see what's wrong with roleplay. You just sound kind of boring.

>>84232187
Exactly. Lots of men were Poisoned by their wives back in the day.

OP must have some trauma to be so scared of sex and intimacy

>>84232172
4chan is basically just men outing their inner thoughts. most men want to rape women and don't care about female pleasure, mental health or any of that shit. they just want a rapemaid. i'm not participating in that.

>>84232097
Do you hate manlets femanon?, is that it?

>>84232198
Not true at all, most men want their women to be happy and satisfied unless they are psychos. Stop acting like a victim.

>>84232198
Shut up retard, you're talking shit posting way too seriously.
I've given a fuck about all of my partners' pleasure and I've even had some ask me to use them when they were passed out - I could never bring myself to it


And before you spout some racial shit I'm brown, the kind you hate the most specifically
You're just mindfucked by too much Internet exposure. Seek help

>>84232187
there will be no rape and there will be no wife.
>she's either going to leave you
this is not traditional. traditional females almost never get to leave.
>end up resenting you due to sexual trauma
some posts ago breeding was the only acceptable form or sex, and now it is a source of sexual trauma? which is it?
>that's the reality you'll have to accept because you don't want to hold restraint.
the biological goal of a male, traditionally speaking is to procreate. taking care of and raising babies is the job of a female. this is biology. once a females is bred a male can move on to other females to breed more, esp. if the cherry picking female wishes to leave.

>>84232211
>Stop acting like a victim
That's basically asking her to not act like a woman

Reading this thread as a black fembot is funny cuz it's just another game of "the worst of your demographic will be projected onto you"

>>84232226
It sucks and I'm sorry, but I've had nothing but bad experiences.

>>84232226
Same here. I am fucking with her at this point

>>84232211
>>84232212
>>84232220
yeah no, word is not enough anymore. you simply can't be trusted. i use this as doomfuel because men put up a facade irl. i'd rather be a corporate woman gooning to 2d than an abused maid.

i gave you chances, thought hey maybe they can be normal, but its too late. you'll have to find someone else.

>>84232247
I am literally female lmao you are so fucked in the head to let this shit get to you. Talk to people irl and get a therapist

>>84232179
> abortion
yes, I am personally pro abortion. I just think it should be used for the cases of when birth control fails, rape, health complications rather than "umm, I just changed my mind. Silly little me :P. But it's okay, abortion always exists right?" Governments only ban abortions for the purpose of gaining virtue points or increasing population in rare 5head situations.
>child abuse
child abuse leads to trans people and sociopathic criminals, same ones that end up killing you or me randomly. you don't need to be a moralfag to know why child abuse is not good
>theft
yes, if you can get away with theft go ahead lmao.

>>84232253
I thought birth control was degeneracy? Why should you abort when it fails?

>>84232226
>0 posts about black women itt

>>84232231
As long as you don't actively try to make my life worse I probably won't even notice. Everyone's got a stereotype they have to carry. Tis life.

>>84232264
>As long as you don't actively try to make my life worse
I don't, I'm too busy struggling with my own.

>>84232259
Because you never wanted a kid in the first place and only wanted sex?

>>84232275
You are not OP, I am just questioning her logic since she claimed contraception is degeneracy

>>84232250
NTA but most zoomers do not have friends outside of school. I'm a 99 zillenial and finding friends is borderline impossible because my coworkers only talk about work.

Socmed use is addicting and if your only interaction with "men" are trolls saying the most misogynistic shit imaginable for ragebait your mind is going to extrapolate that to the male population. In the same way online racism makes people more racist irl, I got called a nigger by a random white kid at the library once when I was just sitting down on my computer.

>>84232283
Ok. But in case you think otherwise, I am >>84232253. This is getting complicated lol. I have to be an avatarfag/namefag

>>84232283
anon, you still don't get it, do you?
>it is okay when I do
>rules for thee, but not for me
>men must
nothing new under the sun

>>84232294
Girlies, I am pro abortion and contraception and all that shit. Cant a motherfucker create a hypothetical scenario?

>>84232292
Yeah Ive been larping as too many people on this thread

We live in the era where everyone is two clicks away from porn so people especially men are going to develop a fetish of some kind.

For me its nipple penetration but I have small tits and it's painful so I just watch hentai of it

>>84232302
I am a man explaining to you the double standard. Notice the amount of hysterical screeching harpies in this thread who can't face reality. The so called modern female is fucked in the head, raped by the brainwashing and raised with the foundantional, yet baseless, belief that she is a princess and is to be treated as much at all times. These are not normal humans, they're dysfunctional.

>>84232288
I am sorry that happened to you and I understand, but there is nothing much that can be done other than help people realise that socmed is not real life and things on there are very easily manipulated

this thread is an example of why you can't take 4chan niggers srsly this girl is larping as a white chud tradmale and an Abdul at the same time.

>>84232247

I give up. You're fucking retarded.
Who have you given chances exactly if you've never had a bf? You're just a retard buying into shit that mentally ill guys type on here. Grow up

>>84232313
Ahhh now I understand what you meant. Yes, I totally agree in that case.

>>84232323
you'll turn her into a lesbian and it'll be the two of you loving dildos. kek.

>>84232318
People here heed the tranny larpers but they should in reality look out for ragebaiting foids

>>84232314
Oh for sure, but there isn't much you can do when there is no alternative for meeting your social needs.

Like drug addicts will know they're fucking up their bodies but if they aren't proactive in getting help or someone else in their life isn't assisting them in recovery then they have no drive to stop.

Something also worth mentioning is that half of the internet is bots. You may be arguing with someone who isn't even a human.

>>84232347
The worst that could have happened to our society is this psychological isolation from each other.

>>84232323
you may be trolling but its pretty accurate for the average male sadly
>>84232327
i genuinely cringe at the thought of having sex with another woman unfortunately i am still heterosexual

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Alright, I have to do stuff other than trolling mentally ill femcels now. Have fun arguing

>>84231584
>i just want a normal relationship but our generation was ruined by the modern degenerate landscape. anyone else struggle with the same shit?
There are probably guys out there who meet your standards, but what makes you more attractive than their other alternatives? That's what this comes down to.

>>84231584
I will never have sex because I refuse to put my mouth or dick anywhere near where other men's dicks and cum have been so I've accepted that I will live and die a virgin

>>84232119
It's her who's unwilling of course, not me. Also any girl will find out I'm a virgin. It's completely by choice.

>>84231584
You have a body count of at least 4 you used up whore. You're way more of a degenerate than a virgin guy who just has a fetish.

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Me reading this pickme vs misogynists thread as a female autistic slut

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>>84231584
Daddy made you cringe? You sound reddit as fuck, senpai. I'm a kissless virgin, never got molested and still have some fantasies. You don't need to be sick in the head to not be boring sexually.

>>84231584
I'm glad you have strong boundaries regarding that. I hope you find your vanilla man!

>>84232675
porn ruined a whole generation

>>84233462
You realize that generations before we had any "modern" porn people did kinky shit.. ?

>>84233478
and they would get pilloried rightfully

>>84233542
They didn't though most of the time

>>84233569
they were and we should continue

>>84233688
>they were
citation needed

>>84233462
which one? alpha, x, z, y, boomers or before that? porn wasn't invented in 1999, you know.

>>84233877
it started with your mom's generation