I feel like most of the incels both on this board and IRL are men that aren't white. I really have a hard time believing that white guys can be incels in America if they live in even a decent sized city. I used to think height would hold them back but I know too many short kings (like 5'5-5'6) that get laid. Even the typical, ugly, fat, gross white guy can get a self-hating ethnic woman to fuck if he wanted. I've known guys that were basically stereotypical 4chan dudes in college and they all had rosters of women. Most of the women were mid but again they were having sex.That's why I feel like the majority of the trucels here are Indian/Asian/Arab/black.
Oh yeah this is absolutely true. I think some of the white guys here just live in small towns or literally never leave their house, but almost every guy you would assume is some bitchless chud IRL that's white has usually had sex with someone at some time in their life.The only virgin men I know that are 30+ are all Indian or Arab guys saving themselves for marriage.
>>84246911>>84246987I am a volcel.Also, you completely discount the personal mental issues a person might have.Does it solve the mystery?
>>84246911correct, most of the pathetic posters here are brown or asian (smol pp)
>>84247018Eh not really. Foids can have BPD and a million other mental health issues and still get dick. If you're a sociopath or have a "sexy" mental illness it won't hurt you that much. Something like autism might though.Volcel is cool though. Most white guys here are volcels and that's okay
>>84246911I mean, define white?Besides, You can still have low confidence, wear raggedy clothes, don't shower, be fat, be "off", be slow, be short
>>84246911We're European. Standards are much higher here
>>84246911I'll readily admit I'm a racistcel. I'm aware I could get with an filipina, a black or (god forbid) an indian girl easily enough if I tried. They're the only likes I ever get on the apps. But I don't want them. All I want is a white girl, even a mid one, so I can fulfil my sole purpose in life of having white kids. But they don't want me. I only ever see them with 6'2 white chads or blacks these days. I'm 5'10 and not subhumanly ugly, but I'm a complete and utter non-entity to the only people I'm actually attracted to.
>>84246987I'm divorced living in a small town and it fucking sucks. The entire plan was to raise a family and live cheap and my ex decided she'd rather fuck a crackhead than join me in that. So now I'm in my 30s and the already limited options are atrocious.
>>84247061>Eh not really. Foids can have BPD and a million other mental health issues and still get dick.not from me. It is a conscious choice on my part. Analysis.>If you're a sociopathwho the fuck isn't to a degree? Seriously can you live up to 25-30 or even 40 in this world and go>ah, everything fine. Human beings are great. Systems are perfect.What kind of a normie ass interdimensional grade copium do you have to be on to think like that?>have a "sexy" mental illness it won't hurt you that much.the fuck does that mean? depression, apathy, anxiety, so forth aren't sexy.
There are no white incels just white volcels.
>>84246911I don't get how can you be against immigration if you are a white American. With some smart investments+inheritance you instantly become perpetual neet on assets simply due to the fact your ancestors arrived in these lands earlier. The immigrants are always the working class by definition. It was true for italians and irish back in the day, it's true for browns nowdays. Yes, some of their first generationers may succeed early and turn into competition, but that's the exception rather than the rule.
>>84247119Maybe not you but they have no problems racking up the body count. Honestly it sounds like you're coping big time
>>84246911I'm white and 6'2", but a virgin at 33 for many reasons:>Obese since childhood >Autistic>Social anxiety, especially around girls>Went from a private Christian school to community college to moving to bumfuck nowhere with my parents>Still live with parents 11 years later>Don't make enough money to move out, especially to a city
>>84247108You would ironically have a better chance getting with a white girl if you got with an ethnic woman with white friends. She brags about you to her friends and her friends will try to steal her from you.>>84247115Go move to a big city. Big cities are where you can be in your 30s and still feel like you're in your 20s again.
>>84246911Im 26 and white living in AZ and have yet to ever go on a date with a girl so idk dude. I was ignored the one semester of college I did. I cannot remember the last time a girl was ever interested in me, if ever at all.>>84246987I guess that I am guilty of leaving the house much but the few times I did felt very pointless and hollow.
>>84246911Yes most guys here who are virgins aren't white, myself included
>>84246911>That's why I feel like the majority of the trucels here are Indian/Asian/Arab/black.Umm. Why do you exclude Hispanics?
>>84247380Thank you for being honest. >>84247353Obese can be fixed with Ozempic nowadays. Your biggest issue is where you live. Honestly it may be worth it to get a warehouse job or a job where you're doing SOMETHING and find a place with roommates. You have some education so you can move out. Just tell your parents you'll visit them often.
>>84247387Most Hispanics can pass as white and the thing with you guys is that even when you're short you can still get women from your culture. Basically Hispanics lucked out with their women. >>84247372Why did you only go for a semester?
>>84247421I doubt I could afford Ozempic, plus I already lost a lot of weight once over a decade ago and I was still kind of ugly (and balding) at a healthy weight, which is part of why I ended up gaining all the weight backEven if I lived in a city I'd be too anxious to go out and meet new people and approach women, I've been on several anxiety meds and none have really helped
>>84247343>you're coping big timeof course I am.>they have no problems racking up the body count.I was asked by a third friend, trying to hook me up, as normies do, why won't I sleep with one girl, after she has slept with our other good friend, not a week before the question.>Maybe not youand this is why fighting issues like the global warming won't do shit.It's sad and I want to live in a different, future, hopefully better world.
>>84247429What. Latinas are bigger race traitors than even Asian girls. What are you on about. You guys seem to always imagine 5'2" Mexicans when you think of Hispanics, and yeah I usually see those sticking together, but there are millions of other kinds of Hispanics. Puertoricans, Argentinians, Cubans, Chileans, Uruguayans, Colombians. And those are the mamacitas the whites here love to post about and those are more likely than not race traitors that will throw you under the boss for the middest white guy that looks their way. Most of the self hating brown femanons here are latinas.
All of you are delusional. I'm white and no girl has liked me ever
>>84247429>Most Hispanics can pass as whitexD
white guy in nyc herenot a khhv but definitely an incel, have not had sex since the Obama administration
>>84246911I aint reading a single thing you wrote, but>super stacy>FLATI think not. No milk=no stacy
>>84247747real men like small boobs only porn addicts like fat fake boobs
>>84247876and I didn't mean small I mean normal because those are unnatural and not normal
>>84247641How can you be a whitecel in NYC? You have to be actively trying to avoid society for that to happen.
>>84247455>You guys seem to always imagine 5'2" Mexicans when you think of HispanicsEven those get laid
>>84246911I'm white, decent-looking, and 5'10". I spent most of my life in LA and then moved to a small city (100k people) in the PNW a little over a year ago. I've had more interest from women and opportunities where I probably could have gotten laid in the last year here than I did in a decade in LA. That's despite being kinda fat now, while I was in much better shape and still getting nothing in LA. People are just way more sociable and down to earth here. I 100% could've gotten laid when I was at a bar on Friday night, with a girl who wasn't even fat or ugly, but by that point I was way too drunk and tired.
not everyone is american on this website dumb op. here everyone i compete against is white. yes in the usa i could score some fat black girl but so what
>>84247876>>84247886Thats the gayest shit ive ever heard.1st they arte natural you homo and 2nd they arent normal which is good. Normal is average and basic which you are which is why you like pedo tits. Milk or die homo.
>>84247940also some of us study abroad. I compete not only with whites, but also with natives. It was over before it even began. Literal home advantage.
>>84247108say you're 6 foot they cant tell
>>84247257you can save her anon
>>84246911>self-hating ethnic womanAn ethnic woman who wants better for herself**Besides race doesn't matter much, inceldom is based on personality or lack thereof.
>>84248013Sorry to one up you, but I'm a brownoid who randomly spawned in a homogenous white country, so I have it even worse.
>>84246911I am a Khhv from Argentina
lt's called autism
>>84247441Everyone is having sex with each other anon. That's just something you'll have to get over.
>>84247455True, the Mexicans stick together, but like someone said if they're whitish they can still do well dating wise by pretending to be white to like some Indian or black woman
>>84247429>For a semesterToo busy with work and I like my money, I wanted to join the Army Reserves, even now despite all the bullshit.I'll go back probably, but I'm definitely not having any hopes at all lol.
>>84248380>Everyone is having sex with each otherI have no problem with sex and human sexuality in general (not disgusting fetishes). What I have a problem with are infidelity, cock carousel, my turn with this particular slut, etc. Sounds good on paper, but the participation in such degeneracy will kill me from the inside.I just can't put my precious cock into somebody I know was fucked yesterday, by somebody else. and the day before that, by the third person. This is not who I am.
>>84246911I'm White. I live in the north end of the Greater Toronto Area. Southern Ontario is basically the worst place in the world to try to date as a man. I have never had a girlfriend and I get no likes on any dating app.
>>84248611Lol anon you're supposed to go into debt when you go into college and pay it off on the back end. You cant work through college like our parents did.
>>84247641>have not had sex since the Obama administrationSame, haven't had sex since obongo entered the office and I'm not even americanFuck that faggot, it's all his fault
>>84248801I have like 90k saved up, I will never go into debt for as long as I live, sucks with no gf to drain it tbqh
Booba looba thighs and goobas
blacks do well when they go to college too I have seen, the incel thing is a mystery
>>84246911It's true I'm brown and white girls don't even see me as the same species. Feels bad because I have such a strong preference for them over ethnic women.
>>84249398Nice anecdote. Here's what 2000 women have to say about the topic.
>>84249468Im in the same exact boat as you but I think its a blessing. Ethnic women dont like us either, so might as well go for the best. Also you cant feel bad when the most sought after women in the entire world dont consider you attractive, they do that for 90% of men.
>>84249535Well yeah ethic females are about as white worshiping as me so it would feel giga cucked to date one. I guess I'll have to make do watching white foids from afar, how do you cope anon?
>>84246911I'm a tall white man who has watched Asian, Middle Eastern, and even Indian men score with women I fight the death for.
>>84249557Well in my city every race sticks to their own when dating so I guess its fair? Like white guys do not even date Asian girls here because they think Asians are ugly lol. Plus I just tell myself that miscegenation is bad.
>>84246911>That's why I feel like the majority of the trucels here are Indian/Asian/Arab/black.i'm hispanic. short, not fat/overeight. average build. in americal. i'm not outgoing, which is failo among hispanics. still, i think i have decent chances if i were to go to LATAM because of money.
>>84247910>Even those get laidthis is from an account that records hookers from california. that guy is paying to fuck a 304.
>>84249604>Plus I just tell myself that miscegenation is bad.Bad for the white party nerfing their offspring for sure but I'd still love to dump my seed in a white chick, like as a mammal I just want the highest quality partner possible idc how gud it actually is in the grand scheme. I still respect if if you do care though.
>>84249636Yes I know it is tempting but I like to think that me being unable to find a partner is what God intended
>>84249752maybe you were meant for something greater like domestic terrorism
>>84249752I appreciate the fatalistic mindset. Way comfier than stressing about when/if you'll get a gf. It would be fun if god was a massive racist that made these brutal racial hierarchies and hates interracial relationships. I wonder what the reward for a gud incel life would be.
>>84249557I always hear this, but as a white guy who grew up in a big diverse city, 98% of the women who've ever shown interest in me were white and the only nonwhite girls I've ever dated or had sex with were a Korean girl I met in Japan and we went on some dates but didn't fuck, and a really fat Mexican girl that I had sex with once and have regretted ever since.
>>84249864You are such a cringe self hating faggot. Please drop a heavy object on your own skull.
>>84250009You dont hear it because you mostly hang out with whites. As someone who works with them and has them as family members, it is very much true, especially with the educated ones.
>>84250069I meant as someone who has nonwhite family members
I'm a white guy living in a metropolis outside the US and EU. I'm incel due to social anxiety. I can't even try to score something with girls because of shyness. If I could socialize normally I would have already kissed girls in clubs, like my classmates did, but that's not the case. I'm 19 years old so I understand being a virgin, but I should have had at least a kiss by now. The problem of incel discourse is placing too much attention to looks and forgetting the behavorial part of human relationships. If you are bad with socialization it won't matter if you are white or beautiful.
>>84250009All the ethnic girls I've known were either single or with a white guy. I dunno I can just tell that they interact with white guys differently than men of their own ethnicity. But like there's also stats on how many ethnic women strongly prefer dating within their own race and theres a HUGE difference in those between white and non white women. Females go for hierarchies and whites are undeniably on top of the social racial hierarchy. >>84250020>You are such a cringe self hating faggot.Ehehe well you are right about me but I don't see any reason to commit suicide
>>84250069I don't really. I was the token white guy in mostly Asian social groups for much of my life and have also had a lot of Latino friends and even a few Blacks. Despite Asians being like 80% of my social circle for well over a decade I never ended up with an Asian girl except that one I casually dated in Japan, and instead always wound up with white girls that I mostly met outside of friend groups. (Mostly at weeb cons to be honest, but they were girls I just happened to meet while hanging out or at cosplay gatherings etc.)
>>84250090That's normal for your age. If that's all that's holding you back, I think it's going to get better. At least in my case my social skills improved as part of adulting and I stopped caring about trivial things. Alas I have other problems.
>>84250117Living in LA, I actually saw surprisingly few mixed-race couples. Maybe 1 in 20 Asian girls I saw with guys were with white guys, but other than that it was pretty much all same race.I live in a small mostly white city in the PNW now but I did have a funny experience recently where I went into a sex shop to buy something, had to admit to the female staff that I needed it in a large size, and one of the staff girls, a tiny skinny but shortstack South Asian-looking girl, suddenly became noticeably friendly despite mentioning a BF at some point AND learning during the interaction that I'm twice her age.
>>84250188Brutal flirting even though she has a boyfriend and you're twice her age. Even if she didn't actually cheat she certainly imaged it.
>>84250511Well, I wouldn't quite call it flirting, but she was standing a little close to me, laughing a little too much at my jokes, etc. Probably didn't help that I kind of admitted to having a petite girl fetish.
>>84250090>The problem of incel discourse is placing too much attention to looks and forgetting the behavorial part of human relationships. If you are bad with socialization it won't matter if you are white or beautiful.Opportunity is the other big thing, probably more important than looks or social skills imo. Like, looks don't matter if girls never see you. Social skills don't matter if girls never interact with you.I used to get laid pretty regularly when I was at uni while my mates from high school were all complaining about being forever alone, I don't think I have better social skills or looks than any of them but>I was studying a degree that was 60:40 F:M, they were all in Comp Sci, Engineering or Finance>I was living in a dorm on campus, they were living at home or in a sharehouse together>I was in the SCA and the uni skiing club and volunteered with the Nature Conservancy, they spent all their free time gaming>Even when it comes to /tg/ shit, I had to find a new group through some on-campus club (and the uni rpg club was at least 20% chicks) while they had each otherI was talking to chicks constantly and as a result even my socially awkward ass could get laid. I guess some people can get the interaction through apps or social media or going out clubbing but I've always hated that shit so if I didn't get laid it felt like wasted time (and I'd assume it made me come across even more awkward than normal) but spending a weekend out in the fresh air putting up nesting boxes for some endangered species then talking shit around the campfire in the evening was enjoyable even if I didn't end up fucking the qt tomboy I'd been sweating alongside.
>>84246911It is pretty funny how the nerdy white guy has become more and more desirable as immigration has picked up. Ive seen dudes that were 5'5 and looked like a foot but because they were white and/or had blue eyes women found them hot
>>84248945Yeah this is what they don't tell you. Having lots of money is cool but if you're not having sex or have a woman it's almost pointless.
>>84249496What's crazy is that if you look at the sources, they're all from super liberal cities. It's probably worse in less progressive towns.
>>84249752Seems like that's the case. Lots of people would be amazing for each other but theyre the wrong race so they'll never even be able to meet or date
>>84250188>Living in LA, I actually saw surprisingly few mixed-race couples.Yeah the media pushes them but IRL they're very rare. If you do see them it's usually some mix with a white person. Inter-ethnic race mixing is super uncommon
>>84251511>dudes that were 5'5 and looked like a foot but because they were white and/or had blue eyes women found them hotNope, still zero interest from women. t. 5'5 unattractive white guy with blue eyes.